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Open a Xperia z to manually dry the speaker?

I was in the beach 2 days ago and I brought my xperia Z along. I decided that it was a good idea to take underwater videos and pictures above the water. They all looked great. The only problem is that, its been two days since that happened and my speaker is still muffled. It usually gets dry in a few hours, this time I'm worried it might have damaged for good. I believe that maybe little grains of sand made their way through the grill and are keeping the sound low or something else. Anyways, just wanted to ask if anyone can advise me on what to do. I had my C6002 since its release and have submerge it in numerous pools but never on a beach. Any help will be appreciated, thanks
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I wouldn't recommend open the device, you could lose the water resistance altogether.
My only advice would be letting the device on rice for a while with the flaps open.
Anyway, my take on this subject is this:
I wonder now why everyone thinks that kind of water resistance will make the phone indestructible.
For me, that water resistance (not waterproof) just makes me feel more confident about my device surviving water related accidents.
Just taking the device to the swimming pool defeats its certification (2 m deep pools are not uncommon, you know), splashing, swimming, just moving around under water, or even worst jumping into the water violently just multiplies the pressure around your device by more than those 0.1 bar.
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Good luck anyway.

Since it was salt water, did you ever think about washing it with distilled water? Might help
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Teo032 said:
Since it was salt water, did you ever think about washing it with distilled water? Might help
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That would be my suggestion too. Try giving it a bath in nice clean water to rinse off any debris.
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Yeah that was my first reaction. I actually left it submerged for about 15 and after that I rinsed it on the shower with no avail. I havent blow dried it, I've read somewhere that might help. But thanks for the suggestions. I'll leave it with rice tonight and see if I have something positive to report tomorrow.
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After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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abajarde said:
After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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Same thing here since a few days and I f*cking hate it! Thought I'm not sure if it's dirt or a dead pixel.

abajarde said:
After spending the night on a ziplock bag full of rise and turned off, I'm happy to report that the speaker is as good as new. I'm super happy. Now, there's one weird issue. Its in another thread, but suddenly I have dead pixels in my camera. See the light switch on the left and notice how there is a black dot on either side. These are persistent around every photo I take. Any thoughts?
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There not dead pixels its a quiet common fault it minute pieces of the lens casing as a lot of users have reported the same ive even got some on mine.
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Futura2000 said:
There not dead pixels its a quiet common fault it minute pieces of the lens casing as a lot of users have reported the same ive even got some on mine.
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What do you suggest we do? Send it for repair?
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abajarde said:
What do you suggest we do? Send it for repair?
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You can only send it for repairs;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311497
Which is what I'm going to do.

FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,

LBTaylor1984 said:
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
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You are probably going to eventually destroy the water proof membrane inside the speaker if you continue to do that. Not good advice.
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LBTaylor1984 said:
FYI if you ever want to dry the speaker out use a can of compressed air to force the water out, i've been doing this for sometime without issue, and restores volume immediately,
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Yeah man, pushing compressed air through there doesn't sound like a good idea. I'll gladly wait 2-3 hours or a bag of rice overnite. That's living dangerously right there
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Well it's your choice but it takes a quick spray and it'd back to normal.
If you did it with 10 psi sure but this is can which is like 10 psi.
It's up to you but it's not much dissimilar to blowing it with your mouth
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Amazingly, I left the phone over night on a bag of rice and not only did it fix the issue it had another unexpected effect. Now, when I wet the speaker its back to normal almost immediately. I was at a lake yesterday, used the phone to record under water, take photos, and guess what? It was fully loud each time almost immediately after I got out of the water. This phone hasn't seize to impress. I highly recommend to consider the rice. Often times, naturally aspired solutions are the better choice.
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Waterproof if phone is bent?

When I look closely to the left side of the phone I can see it is bent down a little means the phone does not lay plain on plain surfaces. This was not from beginning but one week later without falling on the ground or similar. I think it bent due to heat.
Can anyone confirm this bending and is still using it under water, shower and what do ever?
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Mighty_X said:
When I look closely to the left side of the phone I can see it is bent down a little means the phone does not lay plain on plain surfaces. This was not from beginning but one week later without falling on the ground or similar. I think it bent due to heat.
Can anyone confirm this bending and is still using it under water, shower and what do ever?
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Take photos? If you can see gaps, especially around the front glass or back glass, or if the side covers do not close flush, it's probably not waterproof.

Mighty_X said:
When I look closely to the left side of the phone I can see it is bent down a little means the phone does not lay plain on plain surfaces. This was not from beginning but one week later without falling on the ground or similar. I think it bent due to heat.
Can anyone confirm this bending and is still using it under water, shower and what do ever?
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After a week? Send it back m8, that shouldn't be happening, either the phones been heavily stressed or over charged or it simply has chips that overheat. Either way it's bad and shouldn't happen, there should be a 28 day exchange service and a straight swap should be on offer.

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Mighty_X said:
When I look closely to the left side of the phone I can see it is bent down a little means the phone does not lay plain on plain surfaces. This was not from beginning but one week later without falling on the ground or similar. I think it bent due to heat.
Can anyone confirm this bending and is still using it under water, shower and what do ever?
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Show photo of your Z1.

Water Damaged Permanent?

3 days ago, my N3 took a dive into the toilet and was in it for about 20 seconds (it was on, but asleep). It had the Otterbox case on it, though the bottom flap for the usb cable was open. I took it out, took out the battery and the cards, and put it in a zip lock bag full of rice. That's where it's been for 2 days.
Today, I took it out and placed everything back in and powered it up. Everything went normally, but there is intermittent screen flickering, some very slight, and some very noticeable. So my question is, has it been permanently damaged, or is this normal after being in water? I have taken the battery back out for now. Also, would it be advisable to remove the cover to expose the inside and maybe blow it some more in case the rice dust could be causing the problems?
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Well I hope you washed it, before drying it. Ewwwwww! Honestly you should throw it away. At&t insurance, and warranty departments won't touch a device that's been in the toilet and also advise throwing it away.
I think screen flickering after being wet is normal if you're lucky. Usually it goes into brick mode. It may improve over time, or it could get worse? Water damage is sooooo unpredictable.
Since its wet and warranty is screwed, it would be very advisable to tear it apart (gently)! You have nothing to lose now. I'm almost certain there's moisture in there somewhere. It might even be between a connector causing your flicker.
Sorry if I brought ya bad news, and sorry your phone's acting up. I hope it dries out and works. And I also hope it doesn't have any poo bits left in it!!

440bro said:
Well I hope you washed it, before drying it. Ewwwwww! Honestly you should throw it away. At&t insurance, and warranty departments won't touch a device that's been in the toilet and also advise throwing it away.
I think screen flickering after being wet is normal if you're lucky. Usually it goes into brick mode. It may improve over time, or it could get worse? Water damage is sooooo unpredictable.
Since its wet and warranty is screwed, it would be very advisable to tear it apart (gently)! You have nothing to lose now. I'm almost certain there's moisture in there somewhere. It might even be between a connector causing your flicker.
Sorry if I brought ya bad news, and sorry your phone's acting up. I hope it dries out and works. And I also hope it doesn't have any poo bits left in it!!
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Well, when it fell in, the toilet hadn't been used in a while. It was clean water that it fell into (clean as can be in a toilet).
Thanks.
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440bro said:
Well I hope you washed it, before drying it. Ewwwwww! Honestly you should throw it away. At&t insurance, and warranty departments won't touch a device that's been in the toilet and also advise throwing it away.
I think screen flickering after being wet is normal if you're lucky. Usually it goes into brick mode. It may improve over time, or it could get worse? Water damage is sooooo unpredictable.
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I definitely agree that the phone is toast. Maybe not today, or tomorrow, but it will never be the same.
However, I believe that AT&T insurance will cover water damage. Warranty won't, but insurance will. I'm not sure if the OP had insurance on it or not, but I just wanted to clarify that point.
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eagle0042 said:
I definitely agree that the phone is toast. Maybe not today, or tomorrow, but it will never be the same.
However, I believe that AT&T insurance will cover water damage. Warranty won't, but insurance will. I'm not sure if the OP had insurance on it or not, but I just wanted to clarify that point.
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I didn't have insurance, as I've never had to use it. I take great care in my phones, and normally have people waiting to buy my old one when I get a new one. Even in this instance, it was a deliberate act, and not an accident.
In any case, I was afraid of that. Thanks for the heads up.
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Kamau54 said:
I didn't have insurance, as I've never had to use it. I take great care in my phones, and normally have people waiting to buy my old one when I get a new one. Even in this instance, it was a deliberate act, and not an accident.
In any case, I was afraid of that. Thanks for the heads up.
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You mean someone deliberately gave your phone a swirly? Seems like they need to go shopping for an unlocked note 3 for you. And you need to go shopping for new friends.

440bro said:
You mean someone deliberately gave your phone a swirly? Seems like they need to go shopping for an unlocked note 3 for you. And you need to go shopping for new friends.
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Not to mention, kick that persons ass.
Someone did that to my phone, they'd be going in after it, head first.

Actually, it was the wife in a very pissed off mood. And I can hear & agree with ya on this, but unfortunately the law is on her side. ?
Fortunately for her, I don't have high values on "things". I love my "toys for boys", but they carry no weight when it comes to my family.
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If my wife did that to my phone, for any reason, she'd go in with it. I paid MY hard earned money for it. I'm not a child and will not be punished like one.
To the person saying to throw it away. You are insane. All that has to be done is drying the device out completely. And it will normally be as good as it was out of the box. Even if it was completely broken, you don't throw it away. You sell it for parts to recoup some of what you put into it.
I have never thrown a device away after water damage or even after smashing it. There is always something to be made from it. It is a $700 phone. If you want to throw it away, that's you. But don't tell others to do it. Some people don't have the money to just buy another.
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graydiggy said:
If my wife did that to my phone, for any reason, she'd go in with it. I paid MY hard earned money for it. I'm not a child and will not be punished like one.
To the person saying to throw it away. You are insane. All that has to be done is drying the device out completely. And it will normally be as good as it was out of the box. Even if it was completely broken, you don't throw it away. You sell it for parts to recoup some of what you put into it.
I have never thrown a device away after water damage or even after smashing it. There is always something to be made from it. It is a $700 phone. If you want to throw it away, that's you. But don't tell others to do it. Some people don't have the money to just buy another.
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People actually buy parts after being treated with toilet water? They are nuts! Or it isn't advertised as a poo ridden device. I don't know why anyone would want to hold poo bacteria to their face and talk on the phone. Yuk! I don't have the money to go buy a new one either. Which is why I got the insurance! So yes. Call me crazy because I will throw this phone away if it falls in the toilet. But I want you to go up to your friends and say "my phone fell in the toilet. Will you make a phone call with it?" And then see if they don't think you're crazy. Lol

Not to sound gross... But there are less sanitary things you probably do several times a day than using a phone from a fresh clean water toilet.
For instance brushing your teeth with your tooth brush.
Seriously those things are one step below the sponge you wash your dishes with.
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Stop using phone. Take it apart. Heat motherboard with heat gun. 180 degrees Fahrenheit. (no more then that, use temp gun, don't stay in one spot with heat gun for more then 5 seconds, after heated let sit to cool down without touching it) When finished, clean gentle with acetone and tooth brush(soft kind). Brush light coat of electronic Flux. Put back together.
I take no responsibility if you melt you motherboard. This is not for the faint of heart.
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Most people don't know how to pull the phone apart, and even half of the people that do, don't have a heat gun. (Me). While it is a great option, it is definitely not the option for everyone.
He'll, most people don't even know what Flux is or where to get acetone. Especially oil free acetone.
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sandman7793 said:
Stop using phone. Take it apart. Heat motherboard with heat gun. 180 degrees Fahrenheit. (no more then that, use temp gun, don't stay in one spot with heat gun for more then 5 seconds, after heated let sit to cool down without touching it) When finished, clean gentle with acetone and tooth brush(soft kind). Brush light coat of electronic Flux. Put back together.
I take no responsibility if you melt you motherboard. This is not for the faint of heart.
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Flux left on circuits is a very bad thing!
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Acetone isn't good for plastic. It will melt it!

440bro said:
Flux left on circuits is a very bad thing!
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Acetone isn't good for plastic. It will melt it!
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Flux and acetone are fine. However, Flux is not needed.
Acetone wouldn't be used on the plastic. Just the mobo. It also evaporates at a faster rate than 97% isopropyl alcohol. It is perfectly safe to use.
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graydiggy said:
Flux and acetone are fine. However, Flux is not needed.
Acetone wouldn't be used on the plastic. Just the mobo. It also evaporates at a faster rate than 97% isopropyl alcohol. It is perfectly safe to use.
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Sorry about that. I used the Flux first before heat gun. That way solder don't get dried out. And then the acetone cleans it off. I've never done this on a phone. Have done it on other electronics. (I make sure I use a water proof case) . Sometimes this works sometimes it don't. But as was stated, what's there to lose unless a miracle happened and the phones good. I just know if there's water inside, it won't come out on its own.
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Thank you for clearing that up. I see the purpose of the Flux.
It is a great idea, and does work. I have done similar things to reflow Xbox 360s and dry out phones in the oven.
It's not always 100% but I have had a very high success rate.
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graydiggy said:
Thank you for clearing that up. I see the purpose of the Flux.
It is a great idea, and does work. I have done similar things to reflow Xbox 360s and dry out phones in the oven.
It's not always 100% but I have had a very high success rate.
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Lol. I've done multiple ps3 and Xbox.
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What graydiggy said, dry it out completely. Must be some water in there.
Personally I'd just throw it in the rice for a bit--sometimes though, moisture is really stuck at which point I use a vacuum to get it out. Careful of small parts though.
Spilled olive oil all over my phone a while back. Worst thing ever. Vacuum was my only option.
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graydiggy said:
Thank you for clearing that up. I see the purpose of the Flux.
It is a great idea, and does work. I have done similar things to reflow Xbox 360s and dry out phones in the oven.
It's not always 100% but I have had a very high success rate.
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Lol. I've done multiple ps3 and Xbox.
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I'd love to know why people are dropping their 360's and PS3's in the toilet...

Does anyone swim with their S5?

So, I just got this s5 and decided to take the water resistancs to a new level.
I first ended up going to Cedar Point Amusement park, and went to the water park with it. Took a few video's with it on the slides, etc. Then went to the Wavepool , kept in my pock so it was no more then a few feet under water at any time.
Worked great, phone was still working. Just an FYI, if you do use it underwater, your signal strength will die, no cell signal underwater guys, I first thought the phone fried, but then relized, that was the issue, and then in a min, 4G was back! (I was freaked when I realized my pebble told me I was not connected.) Played with my Sphero for a bit.
a week later, I was at a festival doing some shooting, I was invited to the pool, with all the drugged up artists ,.. They all thought I was on every drug known to man because I brought my phone in the pool to take pictures (a few under water ones too!)
So far so good. I will admit that the phone at no time was fully submerged for more then 5 or 10 min at a time. but the phone still works great, and just needs a rince and dry to get the touch screen to work nomaly again.
so far, I'm not afraid!. I got the Samsung wireless back, I know it's got the seal, so that one is next! this week!

eatonjb said:
so far, I'm not afraid!.
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To me it's a "just in case feature" lol... "just in case I..."

I left my phone in a bowl of water for an hour the first day I got it and everything is still fine.

Please report back to what finally drowns it lol.

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Please report back to what finally drowns it lol.
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You all have taken playing with your phone to a whole new level. Maybe I can see testing Samsung's numbers, but who in their right mind is going to intentionally search for the time where the phone actually drowns?

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You all have taken playing with your phone to a whole new level. Maybe I can see testing Samsung's numbers, but who in their right mind is going to intentionally search for the time where the phone actually drowns?
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my theory, is if I am going to actualy do long swimming with it, I will put it my waterproof bag, but jumping into the pool for a quick jaunt, playing with my Sphero, or a waterslide where my phone is not UNDER water for more then a few min at a time, I will risk it.
I never keep phones long enough anyways.

eatonjb said:
So, I just got this s5 and decided to take the water resistancs to a new level.
I first ended up going to Cedar Point Amusement park, and went to the water park with it. Took a few video's with it on the slides, etc. Then went to the Wavepool , kept in my pock so it was no more then a few feet under water at any time.
Worked great, phone was still working. Just an FYI, if you do use it underwater, your signal strength will die, no cell signal underwater guys, I first thought the phone fried, but then relized, that was the issue, and then in a min, 4G was back! (I was freaked when I realized my pebble told me I was not connected.) Played with my Sphero for a bit.
a week later, I was at a festival doing some shooting, I was invited to the pool, with all the drugged up artists ,.. They all thought I was on every drug known to man because I brought my phone in the pool to take pictures (a few under water ones too!)
So far so good. I will admit that the phone at no time was fully submerged for more then 5 or 10 min at a time. but the phone still works great, and just needs a rince and dry to get the touch screen to work nomaly again.
so far, I'm not afraid!. I got the Samsung wireless back, I know it's got the seal, so that one is next! this week!
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Chlorine will destroy your waterproof capabilities.

Also your speaker will get saturated and sound like crap - eventually the phone will have a weak speaker resulting in popping/crackling sounds. Just FYI...You can take pictures and the phone can get wet but if your doing it everyday of summer, bad things could happen. I think the Active can do it better than the reg S 5, but I wont go swimming with it. Maybe take pictures once in a while in the pool.

? Makes No sense to me but hey i dont have a silver spoon in my mouth. Even if i could i woulnt cause its a waist of good hardware. Maybe everyone should be poor once in thier life and would appreciate things more.
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rbedell said:
Chlorine will destroy your waterproof capabilities.
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I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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msavic6 said:
I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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It's probably not high enough to break the seal, yes, but your headphone jacks are being exposed to chlorine, as are your speakers. Filtered water at home wouldn't corrode the equipment as fast since... well that's chlorine's job, you're not drinking chlorinated water at home. But yeah, the speakers and headphone jack aren't directly part of the board if I'm correct, instead they are attatched to it (I suck at explaining things, bear with me please) by the looks of it, probably explaining why you can buy the headphone jack and speakers separately as replacement parts instead if the whole board. The reason why the slip is on the charging port is to protect the board, which is in more cases a lot more important than sound equipment. I hope I explained that generally well for no sleep in 36 hours. :laugh:
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msavic6 said:
I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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Chlorine, maybe not. Extra pressure against the seals, almost assuredly.
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The only thing i can say with absolute confidence is that if you brick your phone, don't expect much help. You're using the phone way out of the normal guidelines.
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Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.

tabascoz28 said:
Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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Good point
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tabascoz28 said:
Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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and some people take the risk and deal with the consequences. I have taken the phone in the pool, and when I am done, I do clean it off, do I plan on doing it on a regular basis, NO, I only did it because I was thinking, I had 30 days to return this phone if it explodes, so I took the risk, in general, If I ever do plan on going to the pool in the future, I have a waterproof bag that I use.
Now the shower, man, is nice to change the song and see whats playing. but I don't submerge it.
Long story short, I was asking for outcomes, I was not asking if anyone was a spoiled brat, had more money then god, did't care if the phone exploded or whatever, those are just troll answers, I was looking for experiences of people willing to take risks, what their device's outcome was, not their financial outcome.
and about chlorine and the seals, that is a legit concern, just like salt in salt water pools. I did not think of that, and this is why i asked.

Water + electricity = busted ****. Common sense. And when the first battery does explode (not 100% on if the battery will do this) from taking into elements they have no business being in I'm sure someone will jump on some lawsuit even though it was there fault cause we all know water and electricity go so well together.
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GDofWR420 said:
Water + electricity = busted ****. Common sense. And when the first battery does explode (not 100% on if the battery will do this) from taking into elements they have no business being in I'm sure someone will jump on some lawsuit even though it was there fault cause we all know water and electricity go so well together.
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What? The phone is built to withstand a certain degree of water, hence the iP67 rating, I don't underatand why you are jumping to these astronomically implausible conclusions.
I don't know if you have seen the videos on YouTube but the S5 is highly resistant to water, even more so than the IP67 rating would lead you to believe.
Batteries can explode from various things, sitting too long can cause them to puff up, a direct impact/force can also cause it to explode.
Water+Electricity is bad but telling people their battery will explode if their S5 encounters water is simply doing a disservice to them. There are limits to the S5's water resistance as there are limits to many other things in life, we respect those limits and stay within the designated "safe" boundaries. There is no difference with the S5, respect the limits of the water resistance and continue enjoying the feature.
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msavic6 said:
What? The phone is built to withstand a certain degree of water, hence the iP67 rating, I don't underatand why you are jumping to these astronomically implausible conclusions.
I don't know if you have seen the videos on YouTube but the S5 is highly resistant to water, even more so than the IP67 rating would lead you to believe.
Batteries can explode from various things, sitting too long can cause them to puff up, a direct impact/force can also cause it to explode.
Water+Electricity is bad but telling people their battery will explode if their S5 encounters water is simply doing a disservice to them. There are limits to the S5's water resistance as there are limits to many other things in life, we respect those limits and stay within the designated "safe" boundaries. There is no difference with the S5, respect the limits of the water resistance and continue enjoying the feature.
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The battery exploding is more or less hypothetical as I said I wasn't a 100% and furthermore like I said water and electricity don't mix. One little flaw in you precious waterproof seals and poof your phones done. I myself have noticed just from charging my phone the USB flap is already loose so no I would not trust submerging my phone in water at any depth. and as for the waterproof rating i would think that applies to things like getting caught in the rain on your phone or dropping it in the toilet and ouickly removing it. Not jumping in a pool or going scuba diving and taking pictures underwater. Purposely Taking your phone into water or any other liquid is just STUPID it's water resistant not watertight or waterproof. Do with your phone what you will I just hate seeing hardware abused even if it is not mine. Sorry if this upsets anyone just my opinion.
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The battery exploding is more or less hypothetical as I said I wasn't a 100% and furthermore like I said water and electricity don't mix. One little flaw in you precious waterproof seals and poof your phones done. I myself have noticed just from charging my phone the USB flap is already loose so no I would not trust submerging my phone in water at any depth. and as for the waterproof rating i would think that applies to things like getting caught in the rain on your phone or dropping it in the toilet and ouickly removing it. Not jumping in a pool or going scuba diving and taking pictures underwater. Lastly this was supposed to be about opinions well here mine. Taking your phone into water or any other liquid is STUPID it's water resistant not watertight or waterproof. Do with your phone what you will I just hate seeing hardware abused even if it is not mine. Sorry if this upsets anyone just my opinion.
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The IP67 rating means Ingress Protection, the S5 in this case is 100% Dust proof as it has the highest value on the scale for dust resistance. The 2nd number in which the S5 has a 7 means water resistant at depths of up to 1m for up to 30 minutes, there is only one level above the S5's rating. This rating is given based on standardized testing so assuming you follow the specified limits and make sure your port covers are sealed, you should be fine taking your device with you in up to 1m of water.
Regarding the loosening of the port cover, that is a major point of concern. My port cover is still very tight fitting but I am have been extremely cautious in making sure it stays at 90° from the opening and doesn't bend in any other direction as to not weaken the flap.
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The IP67 rating means Ingress Protection, the S5 in this case is 100% Dust proof as it has the highest value on the scale for dust resistance. The 2nd number in which the S5 has a 7 means water resistant at depths of up to 1m for up to 30 minutes, there is only one level above the S5's rating. This rating is given based on standardized testing so assuming you follow the specified limits and make sure your port covers are sealed, you should be fine taking your device with you in up to 1m of water.
Regarding the loosening of the port cover, that is a major point of concern. My port cover is still very tight fitting but I am have been extremely cautious in making sure it stays at 90° from the opening and doesn't bend in any other direction as to not weaken the flap.
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Yea the flap is what has me believing it shouldn't be submerged. Say your sitting poolside and drop ur phone in, Yea it's good to have the iP67 rating but just from removing the USB flap to charge i would throw that rating out the window. It's loose
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Still waterproof?

Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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Man I really don't know.. I don't think you'll face issues even trying to take it underwater, but still if you don't know whether the film cracked too you should try to replace it.. If the asf is ok, then you should be ok bro....
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No....
A crack means no longer airtight.

jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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I...wouldn't try it. I think your phone just became "oh #*&$" accident water proof. ie. if you drop it in the neighbors pool or something on accident you're probably fine, but I wouldn't put the "1.5 meters/30 minutes" part to the test anytime soon.
This also probably compromises any warranty given on the water proofness. If they see that it has a cracked back they could easily use that as an excuse not to repair it under warranty claim.

Just like i thought guys, but i think its still waterproof, because the film helps glass keep in his place, and the edges of the glass is still glued. That crack is like hair, really small. Ill try to take a picture in the evening, because its morningright now.
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That white spot is from fingers, try to see that little line, i circle it
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I really cant see that line without sun shine, because its really small.
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Why ask us at all then if you aren't going to heed our advice anyway?
You sound like you have your mind made up, so what was the point of this thread?

Water will find it's way. If this crack is all trought, it WILL find it's way.

I jus want your opinion guys
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I jus want your opinion guys
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.

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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Really thanks! You really answered my question!
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')

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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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The film could have scratches or little tears in it itself...
Plus who is to say that the film isn't slightly lifted.
You are betting on a lot on a very thin layer of plastic.
Is it worth the price of a new phone?

It's like when you put beers in a cooler. Wait for the ice to melt and you'll see all the stickers on the beer bootle lift up and float on the water.
Simple physics, water will find the smallest whole, smallest gap, smalest opening and make it trough. That's the reason not all devices are IP rated, most of them don't even bother to manufacture something "tight" enough to get a rating, and even if they do, it's more likely a IPX7, not IPX8 like Xperia's.
Water is strong, and it will find its way.

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/discover-more/water-and-dust-resistance/ look guys, Sony xperia z1 ip58
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Yeah guys you're probably right.. The risk is not worth it

As already mentioned here.
It is not worth the risk, you get water in the phone and no warranty, because there is damage on the phone that was not there when you received the phone.
If a phone goes in that has water damage. They clean all the flaps to ensure no debris, then close them, then test the phone to ensure that the phone is watertight at 1.5m for about 30 minutes.
Water in phone = warranty, no water in phone = no warranty. It would be determined that water in the phone had to be lack of care from the user, not keeping flaps clean, closing them properly or even leaving them open.
Further to this, I am certain they would just say the crack in the glass was the issue, again deemed to be user negligence.

I've faced this problem before. I drop my phone on 3 feet high, and crack my front tempered glass protector. And guess what? My phone dead when I submerged it underwater for less than 30s. And yes, water going inside.

if you got air tester machine u lucky but i recommend you bring to sony center
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