Background: Ever since I switched from AT$T to T-Mobile last month, my iPhone 5's battery life has taken a huge nosedive for the worst, to where it can easily lose 1% every 2-3 minutes, Wi-Fi on or off, and even if airplane mode is on but Wi-Fi is on (Apple Store won't replace it since it's 60 days out of warranty, and a new battery honestly probably won't help since the capacity and other diagnostic readings are showing signs of a normal battery). Popping my AT$T SIM back in, I immediately get much better numbers. Either T-Mobile's network sucks the crap out of batteries, or the phone has yet to be optimized for the network. I'm thinking it's the latter, because I've used other T-Mobile phones, such as the LG Optimus L9, and battery life was really good. Since the Nexus 5 is a very affordable off-contract device, I decided to give it a try.
I understand that the battery life is itself questionable for the Nexus 5, but it supposedly gets better as time goes on.
My white 16GB Nexus 5 arrived yesterday (ordered it on the 6th when it said it'll ship between 3-4 weeks). Using a ghetto paper-based mold for my nano-SIM, it worked just fine in the N5's micro-SIM slot.
It took a number of hours to eventually get things the way I like it, but here's my current setup (the icon and folder setups are nearly identical to how I had them on my iPhone 5, and every third-party (App Store) app I had there was also available on Android, or at least a good alternative was available):
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Overall, I'm very happy with Android 4.4 and its general performance on the N5.
So, some complaints.
First, LTE. On my morning commute, I noticed it completely lost a signal (no bars, just an outline) three times in areas where my iPhone 5 would have at least 2 bars (dots) of LTE. I would at least expect it to drop to HSPA+, but it didn't do that... In the building I'm in, I always got at least 3 bars of LTE on my iPhone 5. My Nexus 5 can't seem to hook onto it, even after flicking airplane mode on and off a few times. It's instead connected to HSPA+ (fluctuating between that and 3G when idling, as expected). Yes, HSPA+ works, but I want LTE if I have access to it, which I do. EDIT: Changing the data network from LTE to 2G, then back to LTE brought LTE back. EDIT 2: Well, where I've been at for the past 10 minutes, I get a full signal of LTE. It randomly decided to drop to full HSPA+/3G.
I always also hoping that general compatibility with T-Mobile was better. The raw decibel signal readings do seem to be in my favor, but the LTE problems and prior signal drops are hopefully things that won't happen again.
Next, battery life. Yes, as mentioned, I know that it's supposed to get better. To be honest, my initial battery life numbers don't seem too bad. Here are some of my initial numbers (N5 came out of the box at around 80% battery, used it down to 5% before charging it all night):
At that screen on rate, I'd estimate about 5.75 hours of total screen on usage, and 9 hours of total standby. That's much better than some of my recent iPhone 5 numbers, and I hope that they can increase. Battery life is really the deciding factor if I keep the N5 and sell my iPhone 5 or not.
I've already gone through all of the battery saving tips (turning Wi-Fi auto search off, battery saving location mode, disabling OK Google, etc.). My usage isn't too heavy, but I do leave Wi-fi OFF (yes, off), get hundreds of texts, checking and replying to them, using Twitter (Tweetings), listening to music through headphones (PowerAmp), checking email automatically every 15 minutes via K9, dealing with those from time to time, and opening some pages with Chrome.
Next, the speaker. I was expecting it to be loud, louder than my iPhone 5, but it's noticeably quieter. I guess there's a hardware hack for it, but I'd rather avoid that, should I end up returning the thing. It sounds clear, and seems louder in certain apps than others (even if the volume is up all the way). Not sure if it needs to be broken in first.
I just noticed that music through headphones doesn't get very loud either, even with things turned up to their maximum values in PowerAmp.
I've yet to take a picture with the camera, and I heard it could be better (and probably will with a software update).
Speaking of software updates, I imagine Google could easily improve on almost all of these areas, including battery life?
One of my concerns was whether or not I can deal with the larger phone for one-handed operation. And really, I haven't had any complaints there.
Overall, I'm very satisfied with it. Just anxious to see what my battery life numbers will be as time goes on.
Battery life probably won't get drastically better. You just need to see what kills your battery the most. If there are things on in the background that your not using such as an app that would save battery life. But most likely is just the screen
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If you can live with Google Play Music for listening to your music, it should use less battery then poweramp by using the special kitkat dsp audio engine.
If you don't have stable LTE, it will really suck the life out of your battery. I just run HSPA+ most of the time and my battery life is ridiculous now.
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If you can live with Google Play Music for listening to your music, it should use less battery then poweramp by using the special kitkat dsp audio engine.
If you don't have stable LTE, it will really suck the life out of your battery. I just run HSPA+ most of the time and my battery life is ridiculous now.
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One big thing I really like is when songs crossfade between each other, which the Google Play Music app doesn't do. PowerAmp's equalizer and other audio adjustment settings are things I can't really go without anymore. Battery life when using it seems fine (for now).
LTE where I am is generally pretty stable. I'll do some tests with LTE off since that will probably help a bit (didn't matter on my iPhone 5, since the battery life would decrease at the same rate regardless of which type of data connection I'm on). Think a software or radio update would help?
You are complaining about nearly 6 hours of battery life?!!? If I get a Nexus 5 and get that much screen on just browsing, I'd freaking celebrate!
Let's not forget that you started at 80%!! EIGHTY PERCENT!!
darkgoon3r96 said:
You are complaining about nearly 6 hours of battery life?!!? If I get a Nexus 5 and get that much screen on just browsing, I'd freaking celebrate!
Let's not forget that you started at 80%!! EIGHTY PERCENT!!
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Well, my iPhone USED to get really good usage numbers under similar usage scenarios.
I've got to admit, I was expecting another "iPhone 5 is way better than Nexus 5" rant...
Kudos to you sir, I thought you made a pretty good review and fair comparison between the two.
I've been having similar issues on T-Mobile as of late, so I understand where you're coming from. The battery and network connectivity issues are most likely on their side.
As for software issues, the sound output being drastically different per app will likely be fixed in an OTA soon. The camera actually exceeded my expectations on a recent family outing to a Texans game last weekend, with HDR+ it takes amazing pictures! The autofocus could be faster, but I'm sure that'll be addressed in an OTA as well.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts bud, it's not often we get unbiased opinions here... It's refreshing to see a review by someone who isn't an iOS fanboy or Nexus apologist.
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Well, my iPhone USED to get really good usage numbers under similar usage scenarios.
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Its not similar conditions with a 4" screen.
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Battery life is incredibly subjective and can vary wildly from user to user. Location, carrier, usage patterns, etc. are different for everyone so it's hard to definitively predict battery life on the N5.
My experience? My first week I was incredibly worried because battery life was significantly worse than my GS3. Granted, I was playing with it a lot and testing out different things, but I was averaging about 3 hours of screen time and scraping about 12 hours of total life. Pretty terrible for what I was used to. I will say that when I was testing out the Moves app, to test the movement tracker, this absolutely slaughtered my battery.
I lived with mediocre battery life for a few days, then when Franco came out with his kernel (I believe I started at r10) I flashed it and then started getting insane battery results. Each kernel update has gotten better (now on r14) and I'm finally happy and able to easily make it through a full day.
For the past week, I usually take my phone off the charger at 7am and it goes back on at 11pm with around 25-35% remaining. During this time my screen on time is between 3-4 hours. So that's 16 hours with a quarter of the battery remaining and a decent amount of screen time on. I'm very happy.
I'm assuming a custom kernel requires a root, which then requires everything to be wiped? I wish I knew that prior to getting everything setup. Probably won't get into any of that for a while.
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It's also not similar conditions when the iPhone 5 has only a 1,440 mAh battery, that's something like ~63% smaller than the Nexus 5's battery (which many of us already find to be disappointingly small compared to other Android flagships).
I'm a hardcore Android user, always have been since I owned an OG Droid and Nexus One, but I concede that whatever Apple does with iOS and their SoCs to squeeze so much screen on time out of the tiny little batteries in the iPhones is pretty impressive.
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I'm assuming a custom kernel requires a root, which then requires everything to be wiped? I wish I knew that prior to getting everything setup. Probably won't get into any of that for a while.
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A custom kernel doesn't technically need root, but it does need the bootloader to be unlocked which is what wipes the device.
You can try to backup with an app called "helium" which apparently backs up a fair bit.
I also saw a thread to unlock bootloader without wipe. I didn't read it though. Possibly in themea and apps subforum. Try a search of xda at the root if the n5 forum
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Could you tell us more about your experience on Android vs iOS? I had an iPhone 4S prior to switching to Android, and aside from the consistency of the UI and fluidity, there isn't much else that I miss. Oh, maybe the excellent color accuracy of the iPhones (especially whites, which aren't too blue). The biggest thing that I was glad about dumping was iTunes, followed by iOS restrictions on what you can and can't do.
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I'm assuming a custom kernel requires a root, which then requires everything to be wiped? I wish I knew that prior to getting everything setup. Probably won't get into any of that for a while.
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Rooting doesn't require a wipe, but unlocking your bootloader does. Step 1 when aquiring phone, unlock bootloader, optionally root if you want, then set up. Bootloader unlock is most important for custom kernel.
Did you try viper4android for general sound enhancement. Don't have mine n5 yet - but on other phones it is amazing.
You can find viper in the play store.
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It's also not similar conditions when the iPhone 5 has only a 1,440 mAh battery, that's something like ~63% smaller than the Nexus 5's battery (which many of us already find to be disappointingly small compared to other Android flagships).
I'm a hardcore Android user, always have been since I owned an OG Droid and Nexus One, but I concede that whatever Apple does with iOS and their SoCs to squeeze so much screen on time out of the tiny little batteries in the iPhones is pretty impressive.
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True. Completely different hardware and os makes any comparison pointless.
I actually think the N5 battery is great. Its bigger than my S3 my 200 mAh but it lasts much longer proportionally.
The best way to make the decision between the 2 is to see which is a better fit for "your" usage and habits, which you enjoy the most and whether the battery is "enough".
For me, an iPhone battery would last days,.but it doesn't suit me.
Best thing is to consider battery last. Let passion make the decision
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I actually think the N5 battery is great. Its bigger than my S3 my 200 mAh but it lasts much longer proportionally.
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I'm actually relieved and excited to hear that. I had an S3 for many months and it was the first smartphone I've ever owned that I felt had really good battery life.
I'm on a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon right now, which is notorious for having insanely abysmal battery life, and it was like a slap in the face compared to my S3, which easily lasted all day.
So I figure just about anything will be better than what I'm on now.
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Could you tell us more about your experience on Android vs iOS? I had an iPhone 4S prior to switching to Android, and aside from the consistency of the UI and fluidity, there isn't much else that I miss. Oh, maybe the excellent color accuracy of the iPhones (especially whites, which aren't too blue). The biggest thing that I was glad about dumping was iTunes, followed by iOS restrictions on what you can and can't do.
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While even Android 4.4 on the Nexus 5 could be smoother in terms of frame rate. I thought I'd get annoyed by it, but it doesn't bother me much. I kinda miss iTunes, keeping syncing things organized within one central program, but I rarely used it.
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I'll have to disagree there. They're both phones that can do similar things, and both have similar hardware features (although they obviously differ). When usage scenarios and network conditions are as close as possible, only then can the battery life really be compared. So, I think that it's appropriate in my particular case.
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I'm actually relieved and excited to hear that. I had an S3 for many months and it was the first smartphone I've ever owned that I felt had really good battery life.
I'm on a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon right now, which is notorious for having insanely abysmal battery life, and it was like a slap in the face compared to my S3, which easily lasted all day.
So I figure just about anything will be better than what I'm on now.
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My comparison is like for like here. My network doesn't yet offer lte and my s3 was not the lte version. Bear in mind my s3 was quad core 1.4Ghz so im not sure how my S3 compared to yours.
But my N5 I am doing 16 hour days (8 hrs low signal area) with 4.5 hrs+ screen on. I could get that on my s3 if I didn't leave the house but a normal day would be 3 hrs on s3.
I am undervolted by 50 and using greenify though
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I'll have to disagree there. They're both phones that can do similar things, and both have similar hardware features (although they obviously differ). When usage scenarios and network conditions are as close as possible, only then can the battery life really be compared. So, I think that it's appropriate in my particular case.
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Fair enough I respect your disagreement. Although for me I disagree that they do similar things too. On the face of it they do, but for the hardcore of us I don't feel that's true. Not to spark an iPhone / android debate here (so this will be my last word on ios) but I see ios more as a "feature phone" than a "smart phone".
If the iPhone does all you need and you can get better battery, its a no brainer. Its just the os work completely different. The n5 is much more powerful and bigger screened and the architecture is incomparable.
On the face of it they do the same "calls, emails, web and some apps" but the comparison stops there I feel. It depends how involved you wish to become.
As I say, go with your heart on which you prefer. Take battery into consideration but don't let it rule the decision. Go for what suits you, not what anyone else says
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So I've convinced myself to wipe & root later, backing up with Helium and the normal Google backup (for system settings and such). That should get me mostly setup the way I had pre-wipe, right? I should have some time this weekend to just start from scratch again, but would definitely like to avoid most of it if possible, which it seems like it is.
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I've had a chance to play around with the Nexus 4 for about a week now and I'm ready to give my full review on it.
Display:
The Nexus 4 has one of, if not the most, beautiful displays on any device I have every used. I know the word "retina" is thrown around a lot, but seriously this display is absolutely gorgeous, especially on full brightness. The viewing angles are the highest of any device i have ever used. Text is crisp on any app you use and I have still not seen any pixels. I have read that the One X's display is better, but since I have never used it, I cannot say if it is or not. But anyway, this screen is so bright and vivid and the colors really do pop. I wish the navigation bar buttons did not take up so much room or if the entire bezel was used for the screen, because, in my opinion, they take up too much space.
Design:
I believe this phone has the best design out of any phone in existence, The front is very flush and when the screen is off, you cannot even tell where it ends and where the screen begins. The rubber like band around the phone makes it very grippy and does not slip out of the hand. The back is absolutely gorgeous with the flush glass and the pixelated design really is beautiful. It is one of those things you have to see in person. Although there is a plastic banding in front of the rubber banding that is prone to nicks and scratches, like the T-Mobile Galaxy S II I had previously. There are reports of peoples phones getting very hot, the screen turning yellow, some rattlings from the camera housing, and some other problems with the hardware. This is expected for first round devices. My phones only problem is I too hear the rattling if I shake my phone, but I only hear it if I try to hear it. Another problem is the phone SLIDES OFF OF EVERYTHING. Seriously I bet my of the people that break this thing will be because it slid off of something. A case prevents this though.
Performance:
Stock Android 4.2 Jelly Bean has one of the smoothest UI's of any device. It even tops my iPad 3. There is absolutely no lag in the OS whatsoever. This is because "Project Butter." When you touch the screen, the CPU gets fired up and is ready to go instantly. You can see this if you go into SetCpu and watch how the amount of CPU speed increases the exact moment you tap the screen. All of the stock apps run perfectly. (Except theres no December in the Peoples app ) The app switcher is just amazing and fast. It is so much better than any other app switcher available and it is great to have a dedicated button for it. The Nexus 4 is great at running graphics and performance intensive games like dead trigger, cod zombies, shadow gun, mini motor racing etc. all of these games have no lag whatsoever, because of the 1.5ghz quad core processor and 2 gigs of ram this thing is packing. Also, Google Now is amazing and completely integrated into your life. You will fall in love with all of its features like weather, traffic updates, sports, flights, translations, appointments, and regular search. But all of this amazing performance and features come at a price...
Battery Life...
I wish I could say this 2100mAh battery keeps this thing alive all day but alas, it does not. If you are a heavy user, which I am guessing most XDA users are, it will not last you throughout the day. On low brightness, sync off, and location services off, I find myself having to fully charge it again before the day is over. Now if you are a moderate user, you will not experience this as much. But let me give you an example of what happened today: I was at a restaurant with family for Thanksgiving. I left the house at 5:50 PM with 95% battery. At dinner I used the phone for a little over an hour and a half just browsing the web like looking at laptops on tiger direct, reading gizmodo, endgadget, cracked, etc, and when I got home at around 8:30 I had 46% battery left. I s**t you not. So heavy users beware. I hate using cases, especially for a phone this beautiful, but I might have to find a battery case to get myself through the day.
Storage:
This phone not having an SD Card slot like most android phones is a real killer, especially because it only has 8gb and 16gb. I unfortunately got the 8gb. I knew I was not gonna get the full 8gb, on my iPod touch 8gb I had roughly 7gb of usable space, but on the Nexus 4 you get barely over 5gb of usable space, and that just sucks for most people. Using the cloud to save pictures and music does help, but you can not get as many high graphics games because of this low storage. Which sucks because the Nexus 4 is great when playing high performance games. Again, I would highly recommend getting the 16gb. It is only $50 more. Im most likely gonna sell my Nexus for as much as I can and pay the difference for the 16gb when more are in stock. Hopefully Google does what they did with the Nexus 7 and makes the 16gb the same price as the 8gb and makes a 32gb model.
Camera:
This phone has a great camera. When you are outside, it takes some of the best pictures for a phone. Even the front camera does. And little things like how you tap the screen to access the many camera settings and the new photospehre, you will just fall in love with them. All of my photosphere pictures stitched perfectly. This device is not very good in low light situations, though. This is helped with the devices on board flash though. You can also easily edit your photos through the stock gallery app, and there are plenty of editing options for all of you instagrammers out there. They are mostly all very nice and work well. There is one problem I did have with the camera though. The HDR setting did take better photos, but I could rarely get them to focus, even when I focused manually. Maybe a software problem? Hopefully this is fixed in future updates.
Mobile Stuff/Miscellaneous:
Call quality on this phone is great and I have not got any dropped calls or any complaints from people on the other end. Text messages and picture messages send quickly. The new keyboard with its swype like feature is very good and accurate. I get great speeds on HSPA+. I am in Chicago and can get 25mbps download and 5mbps upload, which is great. You can also get it to connect to LTE if your network uses band 4 for it, like T-Mobile's will later this year, which is great for us Nexus 4 users on T-Mobile. The voice to text is absolutely amazing and almost always gets what you say. I have used Siri and voice dictation on iOS and it just does not even compare. I love how it types what you say as you say it.
Conclusion :
The Nexus 4 right now, in my opinion, is the best android phone out there. And maybe the best phone overall. It is a great phone at a great starting price. This thing has an amazing screen and has no lag in whatever you are doing. Really the only thing that kills it is the storage. If this had a micro SD slot is would just be so much better than it already is. The camera is great when outdoors and when you have sufficient light, flash helps a lot in low light, and the many camera and gallery features are great. The battery life is sub par, but when you're at home or work, you can almost always give it a quick charge when you need it, but you can not just add more storage when you need it. (Except if you use OTG devices.) I would highly recommend this phone to anyone out there looking for a great device. It is not complicated at all and it very noob friendly.
If you have any questions or want me to add anything please just comment or PM me and I will try to help as much as I can! I will add more to this thread if I have more to say later on.
great review!
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Thanks!
Yeah pretty good review. I find battery life to be very good on the N4 believe it or not. I reach almost 5 hours on screen time with 15 hours off charge. Thats with heavy use. My brightness is on auto, i browse the web switching from cellular to wifi depending on where im at, sync is off and i turn it on during the day to check my emails, stuff like that. Do a lot of tapatalk, few calls, lots of texting and little youtubing. I use it normally, not to fool myself and try to reach 2 days just to be satisfied. Oh yeah lol, since last night im using a custom kernel.
Great, unbiased review! This review made me want the Nexus 4 even more! Hopefully I can get one soon. :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah pretty good review. I find battery life to be very good on the N4 believe it or not. I reach almost 5 hours on screen time with 15 hours off charge. Thats with heavy use. My brightness is on auto, i browse the web switching from cellular to wifi depending on where im at, sync is off and i turn it on during the day to check my emails, stuff like that. Do a lot of tapatalk, few calls, lots of texting and little youtubing. I use it normally, not to fool myself and try to reach 2 days just to be satisfied. Oh yeah lol, since last night im using a custom kernel.
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Please share with us the custom kernel you are using. Thx.
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Out with the family for thanksgiving for 2ish hours and using the phone for 1 and a half of those... The true spirit of thanksgiving!
Nice review though
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Please share with us the custom kernel you are using. Thx.
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Out with the family for thanksgiving for 2ish hours and using the phone for 1 and a half of those... The true spirit of thanksgiving!
Nice review though
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Yeah I knew that was gonna look bad but I had to say it. Anyway my family can be dull at times
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That's impressive :good:
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That's impressive :good:
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I saw you post it before which is great, but I cannot go through the day with service sync off. To me that just defeats the whole point of the phone. Perhaps with an incremental update battery life will get better. Seems maybe too much stuff is syncing in the background and is keeping the CPU from sleeping. 5 hours is good though... I'd like more but that's really all I need.
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That's impressive :good:
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And I was using it heavy, like there was no tomorrow
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I saw you post it before which is great, but I cannot go through the day with service sync off. To me that just defeats the whole point of the phone. Perhaps with an incremental update battery life will get better. Seems maybe too much stuff is syncing in the background and is keeping the CPU from sleeping. 5 hours is good though... I'd like more but that's really all I need.
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I turn on sync every hour or so. Just don't need it on all the time unless I'm expecting an important email or something. But people should use their phones as they normally do, not just to reach a certain amount of screen time cause that's just ridiculous. So yeah, if you need sync on then just leave it on, personally I don't need it on all the time.
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Why isn't your phone awake when the screen is on? I can't really remember but I think that on every Android i've had, when the screen is on, the phone is Awake
Picked up my N4 today and have been getting to grips with it, initial impressions are. It's fast though have had slow down. Gets very hot during anything using GPS or when playing games. Camera is average and when using the flash images are washed out. It's a bit early to say much about the battery life but after 1hr38mins, its down to 73%. build quality seems good. I thought it would be a bigger leap up from my old phone but am a little disappointed currently. I will continue but if it doesn't impress further it will go back. Do love jelly bean!
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Why isn't your phone awake when the screen is on? I can't really remember but I think that on every Android i've had, when the screen is on, the phone is Awake
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Good question, I have no clue. I just checked my current stats as I'm writing this comment, I'm 9 hours off charge with 2h 15 min on screen time and no awake time
I checked my battery stats when I had the note 2 and the line is all blue when the screen is on. I don't know....
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you used your phone for an hour and a half at family thanksgiving dinner??
Yeah yeah I know its got Stamina Mode BUT! is anyone a little worried like me that the battery is 2330 and with a 5 inch screen and all those pixels its going to drain pretty fast. Todays phones with 720 screens and less pixels aren't the best. I'm still getting the phone but anyone else think we aren't in for glorious battery life here. (Stamina Mode may be the perfect fix for this though)
im hoping we get some battery reviews in soon. i have yet to see any real in depth reviews for the battery yet.
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im hoping we get some battery reviews in soon. i have yet to see any real in depth reviews for the battery yet.
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Yeah, thats the part of the reviews I will be taken proper interest in.
Coming from the One X, I'm not too worried about battery life as I'd be fairly confident it could last a bit longer than that phone. I charge my phone every night so once I get a day out of it thats fine.
I would like to see a review on the battery life though.
2330 AMH is really good though
I have 3100mah on my Galaxy Note 2 right now. Pretty huge battery - was supposed to last 3 days - it barely lasts 48 hours of "normal use". Not worried about Xperia Z, if 3100mah can't supply more than 5-6 screen time or 48+ hours - no battery will. If it lasts 2 full days, i'll be more than happy.
From what I've heard it's actually surprisingly good. Keep your brightness in check and you'll be fine. Both the Snapdragon S4 Pro and the MDM9215 are pretty efficient chips. The S4 Pro has (according to Qualcomm at least) a pretty high performance per watt so should do pretty well with relatively little power use.
From the 1st review:
"The Z’s battery-saving Stamina mode turns off data when the screen is off, boosting standby time by a factor of four, and we found it hardly lost any charge overnight – around 1 per cent, or none at all."
Now that's interesting.
Early tests not so encouraging. Worse than the nexus 4. Of course screen brightness etc aren't known at this point.
Let's hope it gets better with more charge cycles etc.
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Doesn't look too good. 9 hours with 3h screen time... but the screen drained 42% of the battery so i guess it must have been under some heavy stress. Hope to see some more tests/reviews asap.
yeah, all we can do is wait for the NDA to break. I really hate waiting.
hope the battery's up to scratch because i haven't been this excited for a phone in a long time.
When do nda normally break? Seeing as it should release in some territories in a few weeks, I'm surprised there haven't been more reviews. Hoping to see some from the big sites any day now, especially the verge, gsmarena etc, as I'm really interested in battery life. Would need about 3.5 hours screen on time on mid brightness on 4g over say 15 hours off charger to work for me. Guess I could make do with 3 hours, but whichever of the new 5 inch phones does this will get my money. Come on Sony, don't disappoint me, cause I love the look of this phone!
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A) reviews take time
B) It seems as though the CES units were not final... so the final product may not have been available until very recently.
Sony stores/reps are starting to get their demo units (which should be final hardware) so hopefully more reviews soon.
BTW NDA is usually to keep the details of the product hidden until Sony is ready to release. The phone has obviously been officially announced so this is not an NDA thing, just the fact that they don't want reviews done on inferior pre-release units.
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mattman83 said:
BTW NDA is usually to keep the details of the product hidden until Sony is ready to release. The phone has obviously been officially announced so this is not an NDA thing, just the fact that they don't want reviews done on inferior pre-release units.
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And by looking at some threads here - it's perfectly understandable. People freaking out about things that are not even present in the real device like older software, lower benchmarks due to debugging firmware etc. But i'm really dying to see the battery life... if it's non-removable and it won't last 48+ hours of normal use, than it's not good. If it won't last 24+ hours of normal use than i guess i might reconsider ( and by normal use i mean texting, calling, maybe some music - not playing with it every second, that's reserved for few first days )
That screen shot over page with 9hr 33mins battery life. I didn't see the sign for power saver/battery saving mode being used. I mean surely the phone has to last a day atleast under moderate usage. I mean it has a bigger battery than the S3 and that lasted over a day on moderate usage and the cpu in the Z is supposed to be more power efficient is it not.
I also think battery life is a subjective matter for example me and my GF both had the note 2 and I set her phone up exactly how I set mine up with the brightness etc and she was getting 4days - 5days 20hours battery life and mine was getting 1day 20hours - 2days 23hours, why? because I use my phone a damn site more than she does and the variation is because some days I use more phone more than other days so some days the battery will last more and some days it will last less.
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From the 1st review:
"The Z’s battery-saving Stamina mode turns off data when the screen is off, boosting standby time by a factor of four, and we found it hardly lost any charge overnight – around 1 per cent, or none at all."
Now that's interesting.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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Juice defender kills apps but issue with this is apps relaunch itself and then juice defender kicks in and kills it again and ends up in an infinite loop of killing and reviving of processes. The difference with stamina mode is that it was officially made by manufacturer within the ROM. So when you set it to get killed when screen is off there's something within the framework of the android core which they programmed to really halt the operation of the app/process and not just killing it. So in the end it is totally stopped
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That screen shot over page with 9hr 33mins battery life. I didn't see the sign for power saver/battery saving mode being used. I mean surely the phone has to last a day atleast under moderate usage. I mean it has a bigger battery than the S3 and that lasted over a day on moderate usage and the cpu in the Z is supposed to be more power efficient is it not.
I also think battery life is a subjective matter for example me and my GF both had the note 2 and I set her phone up exactly how I set mine up with the brightness etc and she was getting 4days - 5days 20hours battery life and mine was getting 1day 20hours - 2days 23hours, why? because I use my phone a damn site more than she does and the variation is because some days I use more phone more than other days so some days the battery will last more and some days it will last less.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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The thing with the S4 pro is that it can go both ways as far as efficient hardware is concerned. I think it has something to do with thermal insulation.
The nexus 4 and it's 2100ish mAh has notoriously poor battery times - in my testing, tapping out at just under 3 hours screen usage in around 8-10 hours of total use (everything stock + 4.2.1).
My padfone 2, on the other hand, with the same battery/screen size is a battery champ - regularly get 5 to 5.5 hours screen usage over a period of 18-20 hours. It beats out all my previous phones for battery life (minus the note 2), including the GS3 which had good battery life itself.
And no, i don't belive in disabling google now and push notifications. Without them the nexus 4 does better but the padfone 2 and its s4 pro do brilliant with them on.
redThd said:
Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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No argument here - although if it actually does work - then it's a welcome trick. Juice Defender - imo - is useless. It never saved any battery for me - quite the contrary, constant app killing in the background resulted in worse battery life on my Galaxy S/Note devices, so i'm curious how will Sony implement such a feature.
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No argument here - although if it actually does work - then it's a welcome trick. Juice Defender - imo - is useless. It never saved any battery for me - quite the contrary, constant app killing in the background resulted in worse battery life on my Galaxy S/Note devices, so i'm curious how will Sony implement such a feature.
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Why would you guys use JD for killing apps? That doesn't make sense. Its main use is to manage radios etc. depending on battery & screen status. Anyway didn't do much for me so switched from that to Tasker.
http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011.php
This includes battery results , display labor results , camera results
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Poor battery
Poor Contrast
They confirm that g2 is using an other panel
Numbers make no sense when compared to the LG G2. The LG G2 gets twice the battery life with a battery that is only 30% larger? Apparently LG's software is RIDICULOUSLY efficient. . . .
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Numbers make no sense when compared to the LG G2. The LG G2 gets twice the battery life with a battery that is only 30% larger? Apparently LG's software is RIDICULOUSLY efficient. . . .
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Yes it does seem rather strange, isn't 4.4 meant to be more efficient in general as well? This should close the gap not increase it!
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Numbers make no sense when compared to the LG G2. The LG G2 gets twice the battery life with a battery that is only 30% larger? Apparently LG's software is RIDICULOUSLY efficient. . . .
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Take a more efficient screen into the account (the G2's LCDD posts VERY impressive power results), less throttling and some alternatives to Google services. Nexus battery life always sucked on stock, something is up with Google services, they are unoptimized or some ****. Nothing surprising here really.
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Take a more efficient screen into the account (the G2's LCDD posts VERY impressive power results), less throttling and some alternatives to Google services. Nexus battery life always sucked on stock, something is up with Google services, they are unoptimized or some ****. Nothing surprising here really.
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Almost none of that is relevant for the call time test. I just don't get how the G2 with a 30% higher battery can have double the call time.
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Almost none of that is relevant for the call time test. I just don't get how the G2 with a 30% higher battery can have double the call time.
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There are lot of variables. What goes on in the background, how much resources the dial app takes and what services it starts, how hot the phone gets during call, powering the microphones and speaker - and then there's reception. I trust GSM Arena does the test at the same place, so if the Nexus 5's antenna isn't as good at getting signal as the G2 for whatever reason (different module, different construction, different placement etc.), results can be vastly different.
"Those who favor more natural reproduction will certainly be happy with the Nexus 5 screen, though."
I'm all for natural reproduction....
did not need a review to confirm these details for me.. heh.
phone has left me less than impressed.
Tung_meister said:
Yes it does seem rather strange, isn't 4.4 meant to be more efficient in general as well? This should close the gap not increase it!
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Who said 4.4 was supposed to be more efficient? What I saw for the past few weeks were random forum members making assumptions. No official statement at all. In addition to that, people making assumptions that skins use more battery. I think a lot of us knew deep down inside this was going to happen, more or less.
Also note, the G2 has the GRAM feature that they advertised as a battery saver.
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did not need a review to confirm these details for me.. heh.
phone has left me less than impressed.
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Same here. I'm still using my Moto X because the N5 just doesn't do it for me. I pick it up and fiddle with it from time to time but that's about it.
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Same here. I'm still using my Moto X because the N5 just doesn't do it for me. I pick it up and fiddle with it from time to time but that's about it.
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What do you like so much about the moto x? I prefer talking to real life people rather than to a phone...
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What do you like so much about the moto x? I prefer talking to real life people rather than to a phone...
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I don't even use the touchless control, it's been disabled since day one. I love the screen, the feel in the hand, the build quality, ridiculously good battery life, and the icing on the cake- active notifications. Sure the N5 is slightly faster (barely), but this day and age that's not enough. The Moto X is the full package, the N5 is just... meh. Of course that is just my opinion. If the Moto X wasn't around, I'd likely be singing praises about the N5. But since I have the X to compare it to, it doesn't fare so well.
Comparing the battery results it looks like the biggest difference between Nexus 5 and LG G2 is in video playback and web browsing, so when the screen is on and not as much on 3G talk time, when the screen is off.
So, i wondered how these tests are done and according to here http://www.gsmarena.com/gsmarena_lab_tests-review-751p6.php, it looks like they are done on 50% brightness. But, after searching a bit more, i found this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47174975&postcount=42, which shows that the Nexus screen is fairly brighter than G2.
In the gsmarena review http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p3.php, in the comparison table on the bottom of the page, the nexus seems twice as bright as the G2 at 50% brightness.
So, correct me if i am wrong, but where i am trying to conclude is that doing the tests in the same brightness through each phone's settings isn't very accurate and thus the bigger than expected difference between the two smartphones.
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Comparing the battery results it looks like the biggest difference between Nexus 5 and LG G2 is in video playback and web browsing, so when the screen is on and not as much on 3G talk time, when the screen is off.
So, i wondered how these tests are done and according to here http://www.gsmarena.com/gsmarena_lab_tests-review-751p6.php, it looks like they are done on 50% brightness. But, after searching a bit more, i found this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47174975&postcount=42, which shows that the Nexus screen is fairly brighter than G2.
In the gsmarena review http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p3.php, in the comparison table on the bottom of the page, the nexus seems twice as bright as the G2 at 50% brightness.
So, correct me if i am wrong, but where i am trying to conclude is that doing the tests in the same brightness through each phone's settings isn't very accurate and thus the bigger than expected difference between the two smartphones.
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I'm with you. Screen battery tests should be calibrated by brightness, not by percentage. Otherwise, dim screens win by default, which is absurd. Nexus 5 display is very bright. VERY. I had to install Lux to just dim it a bit as auto-brightness was too aggressive out of the box.
Having said that, for me battery life is pretty good. I am coming from Galaxy Nexus and N5 gives me close to double battery life in my everyday usage. I'm sure we will see battery saving ROMs pretty soon too, so folks who need to bleed their phones to the last drop will have the opportunity.
I find battery reviews massively subjective - I just want a phone that won't die if I don't charge it after getting out of bed @ 7am, before 10pm.. after a few calls and 2 hrs of screen on, fbook, texts, etc. My N5 has been on battery almost 13hrs now and is at 66%... my old SGII would be at 10%, so personally this is a massive improvement.
If you always want the latest and greatest all around, Nexus phones typically aren't going to fill the boot. If you upgrade your phone every year and a bit or less and are logical enough to factor in price, they will.
Interesting that the G2 is over 4x brighter at 100% brightness than at 50% brightness according to GSMArena. That probably helped its battery life score with them a fair bit.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-5s-battery-test/
iphone 5s 10 hrs web browsing ..
I love nexus ... but 4 .. seriously ?
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I don't even use the touchless control, it's been disabled since day one. I love the screen, the feel in the hand, the build quality, ridiculously good battery life, and the icing on the cake- active notifications. Sure the N5 is slightly faster (barely), but this day and age that's not enough. The Moto X is the full package, the N5 is just... meh. Of course that is just my opinion. If the Moto X wasn't around, I'd likely be singing praises about the N5. But since I have the X to compare it to, it doesn't fare so well.
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Its funny because I came from the moto x and I couldn't disagree more... It just goes to show that everyone is different and likes different things I guess haha
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-5s-battery-test/
iphone 5s 10 hrs web browsing ..
I love nexus ... but 4 .. seriously ?
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Iphone 5s screen is also half as bright as nexus 5 at 50% brightness.
For most people this kind of batt life is fine (Stock)
I bought a Z1 at launch last September. A little later I sold it because I wasn't impressed with the camera, and the weak viewing angles didn't help much either.
However I have some "seller's remorse" as I somehow really liked the phone and its looks. Also the waterproof part was a major pro.
Since I sold my phone, the z1 has been updated to 4.3 and has perhaps also had other updates. My question now is, what has been improved since launch? Camera, battery life, general smoothness (project butter?) etc?
Any updates that makes the phone significant better now than it was at launch?
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I bought a Z1 at launch last September. A little later I sold it because I wasn't impressed with the camera, and the weak viewing angles didn't help much either.
However I have some "seller's remorse" as I somehow really liked the phone and its looks. Also the waterproof part was a major pro.
Since I sold my phone, the z1 has been updated to 4.3 and has perhaps also had other updates. My question now is, what has been improved since launch? Camera, battery life, general smoothness (project butter?) etc?
Any updates that makes the phone significant better now than it was at launch?
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You may have had a crappy screen, some have had a distinctly more limit viewing angle than intended. Go look for the thread on screens for more info there.
4.3 has been a bit of a pain for some - there's a known memory leak (that doesn't affect everyone) and some issues with the Bluetooth stack (again, not affecting everyone).
Personally, I have had no problems on 290 and am very happy with the battery life. The camera works great if you're not Superior Auto mode (and I've heard there should be improvements to SA in the future).
For me the only one thing was really improved, battery life. All other stuff was close to the same, no big improvements with the camera. Phone still working good. To me that's all.
Thanks for your replies. Too bad it still sounds like a lottery wether you get a "good phone" or not.
Yet, you seem to agree that battery life has improved, which is a very good thing. I was surprised at the short battery life they managed to get out of such a big battery. Especially compared to what the LG g2 and Galaxy Note 3 managed.
My use is mainly Facebook, web browsing, texting (SMS and Messenger), snapchat and taking pictures. And occasionally a game of Candy Crush or Angry Birds GO. You think it he battery will last me through the day?
Also, if anybody else has something to comment about improvements from 4.2.2 to 4.3, please let me know. I keep browsing through the different threads in the general section, but it's hard to find posts covering this subject.
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Thanks for your replies. Too bad it still sounds like a lottery wether you get a "good phone" or not.
Yet, you seem to agree that battery life has improved, which is a very good thing. I was surprised at the short battery life they managed to get out of such a big battery. Especially compared to what the LG g2 and Galaxy Note 3 managed.
My use is mainly Facebook, web browsing, texting (SMS and Messenger), snapchat and taking pictures. And occasionally a game of Candy Crush or Angry Birds GO. You think it he battery will last me through the day?
Also, if anybody else has something to comment about improvements from 4.2.2 to 4.3, please let me know. I keep browsing through the different threads in the general section, but it's hard to find posts covering this subject.
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going from 4.2.2 to 4.3 i noticed better battery life, way better camera(still not satisfied!).
battery life depends on usage and net signal strength. using stamina mode etc you can easy get over a day. on some days it even lasts 2 days for me.
b-bert said:
Thanks for your replies. Too bad it still sounds like a lottery wether you get a "good phone" or not.
Yet, you seem to agree that battery life has improved, which is a very good thing. I was surprised at the short battery life they managed to get out of such a big battery. Especially compared to what the LG g2 and Galaxy Note 3 managed.
My use is mainly Facebook, web browsing, texting (SMS and Messenger), snapchat and taking pictures. And occasionally a game of Candy Crush or Angry Birds GO. You think it he battery will last me through the day?
Also, if anybody else has something to comment about improvements from 4.2.2 to 4.3, please let me know. I keep browsing through the different threads in the general section, but it's hard to find posts covering this subject.
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i didn't notice any improvement to camera, and i actually think battery life was better on 4.2.2, but mybe i had a good setup then that i don't now...
Z1 battery life is superb, don't listen to them, i've looked around G2 forums, most averege users get 4.5 to 5 hours of screen time on a charge, the ones who debloat the phone heavely gets 6-7 hours. Z1 can easely get to 6 hours with stamina mode, so i don't see how G2 is any better.
and yeah, i usually get home after 14 hours worth of daytime with 60%+ battery, after being on tapatalk facebook whatsapp etc all day. so i think you should be fine
i can squeeze 2 hours of asphalt 8 easly aswell
Hi guys!
The problem
I currently have a base model Galaxy S22 Exynos and everything has been fine except battery life. I'm thinking of getting a Pixel 7 and I need your help to decide if it would be worth it. I have already disabled 5g and aod disabled, did most of the optimizations in the S22 thread but still, it can not last through a full day with what I would consider light use but you tell me.
My usage
I love listening to music on spotify, bt headphones, I use a lot of discord, messenger, and instagram chat, watch a lot of tiktok and youtube videos, and browse chrome. I commute and use 4g a lot. With my current usage the S22 battery discharges really fast.
S22, the good and the bad
While I love a lot about my S22, especially the high refresh rate screen sith symmetrical bezels, the battery on this phone is just plain bad and can not get me reliably through the day without battery anxiety. I feel miserable having to micro manage the battery in order to not run out of battery by the end of the day.
I am looking to buy a Pixel 7, because it ticks most of what I want in a phone:
- Good photos
- Snappy performance
- Very clean UI (although might be too clean with little customization options)
- Elegant, unique body
- High refresh rate amoled screen
So how has been your Pixel 7's battery life? While according to dxomark and gsmarena battery drain tests the P7 should have slightly better battery life, I have also read that it doesn't translate to significantly better battery life IRL usage. I don't want to upgrade if the P7 will only give me 30 more minutes of SOT, because there are a lot of things I love about the S22. S23 is too expensive atm.
So should I get rid of my S22 in favor of the Pixel 7? Do you think it would give me better battery life?
Thanks people
Edit: I bought a bluetooth headphone and listen regularly to music on spotify and mobile date when commuting to work or uni, and battery has been significantly worse. Also edited the post to be more readable.
blackrubi said:
Hi guys!
I got really fed up with how quickly my Galaxy S22 (Exynos, base model) drains even with 5g and aod disabled, did most of the optimizations in the S22 thread but still, it can not last through a full day with what I would consider light use but you tell me.
I commute a lot so half of the time im on LTE and usually use the following apps: Infinity for Reddit, Instagram, Messenger, Tiktok, Youtube, Chrome. I'm attaching a screenshot of my most impressive SOT (Although I'm usually getting 4-5) where I went from 100% to 4% and you can see what kind of apps I use on a general basis. I use 2sims and the second sim gets mediocre signal strength.
https://prnt.sc/GL09NBrv4e-r
Standby time is good, with special bixby routines that puts my phone into airplane mode during the night, but when the display is on and I actually use it, it drains so insanely quickly. And I'm not even listening to music!!!! Imagine if I actually used spotify and a bluetooth earphone, I guess I would have to keep my phone plugged into a powerbank all day? I can not even imagine what would happen if in the afternoon I would go out with my friends but would have to go home first to charge my phone or risk it running out of battery.
I am looking to buy a Pixel 7, because it ticks most of what I want in a phone:
- Good photos
- Snappy performance
- Very clean UI (although might be too clean with little customization options)
- Elegant body
- High refresh rate amoled screen
So how has been your Pixel 7's battery life? While I have read that the P7 should have a slightly better battery life, I have also read that software updates regularly mess it up. Also, I don't want to upgrade if the P7 will only give me 30 more minutes of SOT, because there are a lot of things I love about the S22. S23 is too expensive atm.
Do you think I would be able use all my applications including listening to music with bluetooth headphones, browsing and social media? I need a phone that lasts me from morning to evening and does not give me battery anxiety. I want to be able to use my phone more, which the S22 can not do.
Thanks people
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Software updates do mess up the Pixel 7 but with the February patch, I have been getting good battery life. I don't know how much SOT I get from my phone since I just charged it at the time I am writing this but every time I have 100% before I go to school, I always end up with about 50-70% by the time I get home and for the late nights around midnight, I end up with 20-40% left of battery life. To me, that's good enough for my usage since I don't game on my Pixel.
This is my battery for Pixel 7:
It took some optimizing to get it good (Stock Google) but i'd say about 2 to 3 days on one charge is no problem with normal use (no gaming).
Have the adaptive battery off, it doesn't let phone go to deep sleep.
The 0.6% per hour while screen is off is amazing for the Tensor G2 chip.
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Quite stong battery i'd say:
By the way TikTok sends massive bursts of your data sometimes. I verified with this my router and it drains battery quite alot. Just use browser version.
And i'm using 2022 August version of phone software.
New Folder said:
This is my battery for Pixel 7:
It took some optimizing to get it good (Stock Google) but i'd say about 2 to 3 days on one charge is no problem with normal use (no gaming).
Have the adaptive battery off, it doesn't let phone go to deep sleep.
The 0.6% per hour while screen is off is amazing for the Tensor G2 chip.
Quite stong battery i'd say:
By the way TikTok sends massive bursts of your data sometimes. I verified with this my router and it drains battery quite alot. Just use browser version.
And i'm using 2022 August version of phone software.
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It only seems to drain the battery when I'm actually using the app, so that's not really an issue because I'm in bed most of the times.
What about getting a wireless charging ring? Might solve your current dilemna!
blackrubi said:
Hi guys!
I got really fed up with how quickly my Galaxy S22 (Exynos, base model) drains even with 5g and aod disabled, did most of the optimizations in the S22 thread but still, it can not last through a full day with what I would consider light use but you tell me.
I commute a lot so half of the time im on LTE and usually use the following apps: Infinity for Reddit, Instagram, Messenger, Tiktok, Youtube, Chrome. I'm attaching a screenshot of my most impressive SOT (Although I'm usually getting 4-5) where I went from 100% to 4% and you can see what kind of apps I use on a general basis. I use 2sims and the second sim gets mediocre signal strength.
https://prnt.sc/GL09NBrv4e-r
Standby time is good, with special bixby routines that puts my phone into airplane mode during the night, but when the display is on and I actually use it, it drains so insanely quickly. And I'm not even listening to music!!!! Imagine if I actually used spotify and a bluetooth earphone, I guess I would have to keep my phone plugged into a powerbank all day? I can not even imagine what would happen if in the afternoon I would go out with my friends but would have to go home first to charge my phone or risk it running out of battery.
I am looking to buy a Pixel 7, because it ticks most of what I want in a phone:
- Good photos
- Snappy performance
- Very clean UI (although might be too clean with little customization options)
- Elegant body
- High refresh rate amoled screen
So how has been your Pixel 7's battery life? While I have read that the P7 should have a slightly better battery life, I have also read that software updates regularly mess it up. Also, I don't want to upgrade if the P7 will only give me 30 more minutes of SOT, because there are a lot of things I love about the S22. S23 is too expensive atm.
Do you think I would be able use all my applications including listening to music with bluetooth headphones, browsing and social media? I need a phone that lasts me from morning to evening and does not give me battery anxiety. I want to be able to use my phone more, which the S22 can not do.
Thanks people
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Pixel phones are basically Android equivalent of iPhones. By that I mean you'll miss a lot of useful features if moving from other brands.
Pixel phones are just about their cameras. Although cameras are a very important consideration, there are several other equally (may be more) important things to consider when evaluating a smartphone.
The so called 'clean' or 'Stock Android' experience doesn't translate to better performance or battery life. On the contrary, they are actually worse compared to competition. The UI is overrated and cannot compensate for the lack of so many useful features present on Samsung and all Chinese brands.
If you are fine with good cameras (i.e. being absolute best isn't a requirement), you can consider Vivo X90 Pro, iQOO 11, OnePlus 11, etc. since S23 is ruled out for its price.
richb518 said:
What about getting a wireless charging ring? Might solve your current dilemna!
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You are right and that is exactly what i was thinking. There exists a couple of magsafe wireless powerbanks that I could use and I already have magsafe rings that I can attach to any case I want.
But
1. I don't think the powerbanks would actually fit, because they would be blocked by the camera bump so they wouldn't sit flush with the back glass.
2. I don't want to play this minigame where i micro manage my phone to see where when and how I can charge it. I am also not into randomly whipping out a powerbank that's twice as thick as my phone because it can't hold a charge for more than a few hours.
Hence, I've decided to switch.
TheMystic said:
Pixel phones are basically Android equivalent of iPhones. By that I mean you'll miss a lot of useful features if moving from other brands.
Pixel phones are just about their cameras. Although cameras are a very important consideration, there are several other equally (may be more) important things to consider when evaluating a smartphone.
The so called 'clean' or 'Stock Android' experience doesn't translate to better performance or battery life. On the contrary, they are actually worse compared to competition. The UI is overrated and cannot compensate for the lack of so many useful features present on Samsung and all Chinese brands.
If you are fine with good cameras (i.e. being absolute best isn't a requirement), you can consider Vivo X90 Pro, iQOO 11, OnePlus 11, etc. since S23 is ruled out for its price.
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Unfortunately, the first 2 are not available in my country and the Oneplus 11 is above my budget.
I am aware that Google's version of android has it's limitation, however, I love the clean, bloat-free UI and the phone looks so insanely cool! It also has relatively thin bezels, good high refresh rate screen. It ticks most of my criterias for a phone just like my S22, the only thing that keep's me from switching is not knowing how much better the battery life would be.
Although I do have to say that from 100-7% I got 6h 26m of SOT (Lots of tiktok, instagram, chrome, discord, infinity, messenger and tinder) and 21h 7m standby, so perhaps maybe I'm the one being out of touch how long batteries should last?
blackrubi said:
I love the clean, bloat-free UI
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If you spend a little bit time, any OEM version of Android can be made super clean. And the several built-in useful features that are not available on Pixels will make the overall experience much better.
blackrubi said:
Although I do have to say that from 100-7% I got 6h 26m of SOT (Lots of tiktok, instagram, chrome, discord, infinity, messenger and tinder) and 21h 7m standby, so perhaps maybe I'm the one being out of touch how long batteries should last?
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I'm pretty sure the Pixel 7 won't last this long, i.e. you are sure to see disappointment if you switch to it from your current phone.
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If you spend a little bit time, any OEM version of Android can be made super clean. And the several built-in useful features that are not available on Pixels will make the overall experience much better.
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The Pixel Launcher looks the best by far in my opinion. I am aware that custom launchers exist buy they can only mimic the real experience to a degree.
TheMystic said:
I'm pretty sure the Pixel 7 won't last this long, i.e. you are sure to see disappointment if you switch to it from your current phone.
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I hope I can gaslight myself into thinking that I'm being unreasonable and this is absolutely fine battery life before I get my paycheck next month. According to dxomark, gsmarena and battery drain tests, the Pixel 7 should be much better for browsing and social media.
blackrubi said:
The Pixel Launcher looks the best by far in my opinion. I am aware that custom launchers exist buy they can only mimic the real experience to a degree.
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I'm not talking about launcher features at all. There are several features built-in at the software level on OEM builds such as Samsung's OneUI, OnePlus' Oxygen OS, iQOO's FunTouch OS, etc. that do not have a solution using 3rd party apps. So Pixel users will have to live without these features, and it is a difficult proposition for those who come from other brands.
blackrubi said:
I hope I can gaslight myself into thinking that I'm being unreasonable and this is absolutely fine battery life before I get my paycheck next month.
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6 hours of SOT with 20 hours of standby is quite good by today's standards. I don't think Pixel will last this long. With some Chinese brands like iQOO, Vivo, OnePlus, etc., you can expect to get an extra hour or two of battery life.
blackrubi said:
According to dxomark, gsmarena and battery drain tests, the Pixel 7 should be much better for browsing and social media.
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Online tests do not usually represent real life usage.
TheMystic said:
Pixel phones are basically Android equivalent of iPhones. By that I mean you'll miss a lot of useful features if moving from other brands.
Pixel phones are just about their cameras. Although cameras are a very important consideration, there are several other equally (may be more) important things to consider when evaluating a smartphone.
The so called 'clean' or 'Stock Android' experience doesn't translate to better performance or battery life. On the contrary, they are actually worse compared to competition. The UI is overrated and cannot compensate for the lack of so many useful features present on Samsung and all Chinese brands.
If you are fine with good cameras (i.e. being absolute best isn't a requirement), you can consider Vivo X90 Pro, iQOO 11, OnePlus 11, etc. since S23 is ruled out for its price.
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I totally do not agree at all with this.
I've been using the pixel 5 until recently and had all OnePlus devices up until the 5t. They were great and eben superior to the pixels.
Now I use the pixel 7 pro and it's absolutely amazing in pretty every aspect I can think of.
I only wished it was smaller and made of aluminum, just as the 5 was.
Anyways, before purchasing the p7p,I tried the s22 and hated it pretty much immediately.
That thing is cluttered with tons of software no one needs. Yes, there are dinner features that's might be useful, but not many. And if I want to, I can always find similar apps on there playstore.
What I can't do, is get rid of most of these apps, as they are baked into the system.
Comparing the s22 and the p7p I found the pixel much snappier, which is ridiculous, considering the in theory much more powerful hardware.
Battery life on the s22 was ok, but not brilliant on WLAN. Maybe 6 hours of sot with mostly reading on website and streaming media.Battery life.
Battery life on the p7p in WLAN was about 10-11 hours!
I can't say though how good it is outside of wlan as I only own it for a couple days and still use my old phone until I have all logins etc ready.
Anyways, I'm not missing any relevant features on the p7p, photos are great, it's snappier, than the s22 and updates come all the time.
My recommendation is to get the p7 or 07p instead of the s22.
The only downside really is the size.
deevil_2000 said:
I totally do not agree at all with this.
I've been using the pixel 5 until recently and had all OnePlus devices up until the 5t. They were great and eben superior to the pixels.
Now I use the pixel 7 pro and it's absolutely amazing in pretty every aspect I can think of.
I only wished it was smaller and made of aluminum, just as the 5 was.
Anyways, before purchasing the p7p,I tried the s22 and hated it pretty much immediately.
That thing is cluttered with tons of software no one needs. Yes, there are dinner features that's might be useful, but not many. And if I want to, I can always find similar apps on there playstore.
What I can't do, is get rid of most of these apps, as they are baked into the system.
Comparing the s22 and the p7p I found the pixel much snappier, which is ridiculous, considering the in theory much more powerful hardware.
Battery life on the s22 was ok, but not brilliant on WLAN. Maybe 6 hours of sot with mostly reading on website and streaming media.Battery life.
Battery life on the p7p in WLAN was about 10-11 hours!
I can't say though how good it is outside of wlan as I only own it for a couple days and still use my old phone until I have all logins etc ready.
Anyways, I'm not missing any relevant features on the p7p, photos are great, it's snappier, than the s22 and updates come all the time.
My recommendation is to get the p7 or 07p instead of the s22.
The only downside really is the size.
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The most important benefit of having a feature built into the system is the quality of output. Third party apps do not always provide the same experience. That is also because of restrictions placed on them. System apps have a higher privilege set than user apps. Take for example, Scrolling Screenshots. Or Call Recording.
This is why I prefer OEM builds over Stock Android because 3rd party apps fail to provide quality output, both due to Android restrictions as well as due to lack of proper optimizations.
I have seen several reviews of Pixels and don't remember seeing anything that makes them stand out in terms of performance or battery life. So the whole purpose of having a 'clean' software is defeated.
That said, I have written a post where I have compared the software features of various OEM builds. Since I don't own a device from each brand, I need confirmation from real users of respective devices.
There are about 25 features that I really look forward to on my smartphones, and the lack of availability of some of those are indeed deal breakers for me. For example, lack of gesture support for system navigation when using 3rd party launchers on Xiaomi devices alone is a reason why I wouldn't buy them!
As far as Pixels are concerned, there is only one feature that they have that no other phones have: offline transcription with voice recordings. But Pixels lack many features that other OEM builds offer, enough to rule them out in the purchase decision.
Can you tell me which of the features listed there are available on Pixel phones? This will give clarity on what to expect from Pixel devices.
Here is the link:
Comparing Android 13 features of different OEMs | XDA Forums (xda-developers.com)
how u get 6.5h SOT and 20h standby on s22? all wifi? my s22 like ****, and even my pixel 7 cant get beat ur s22. my pixel only like 4.5h SOT and 20h standby I don'thabe WiFi.
so I don't recommend u downgrad ur phone to pixel 7.and I only use LTE, I don't using 5G, if I open 5G, this phone gonna burning. I do have customized ROM and kernel. just like TheMystic saying, i dont think Pixel 7 will last this long
w9909989 said:
how u get 6.5h SOT and 20h standby on s22? all wifi? my s22 like ****, and even my pixel 7 cant get beat ur s22. my pixel only like 4.5h SOT and 20h standby I don'thabe WiFi.
so I don't recommend u downgrad ur phone to pixel 7.and I only use LTE, I don't using 5G, if I open 5G, this phone gonna burning. I do have customized ROM and kernel. just like TheMystic saying, i dont think Pixel 7 will last this long
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Sorry bro, but this was painful to read. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
w9909989 said:
how u get 6.5h SOT and 20h standby on s22? all wifi? my s22 like ****, and even my pixel 7 cant get beat ur s22. my pixel only like 4.5h SOT and 20h standby I don'thabe WiFi.
so I don't recommend u downgrad ur phone to pixel 7.and I only use LTE, I don't using 5G, if I open 5G, this phone gonna burning. I do have customized ROM and kernel. just like TheMystic saying, i dont think Pixel 7 will last this long
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Wait.... this is considered good SOT? Have I been living under a rock? I will **** my pants if watching videos and social media / browsing infinity reddit is considered heavy usage to the point that it is surprising that I got 6.5h SOT.
Most of it was on Wi-Fi, around 30% was on mobile data (4G). I have 5G disabled as my mobile carrier doesn't support it. I have also disabled a bunch of apps through adb, disabled execution of cached apps, most of my apps are in deep sleep and I don't have any applications installed that I don't use. I also use bixby routines to minimize overnight drain. I also have adaptive battery enabled. I also have bixby routines to turn on power saving mode when using power hungry apps. I'm on One UI 5.0 and will not upgrade to 5.1 because of insanely buggy software. That's it
The battery life questions about the Pixel 7 still stands, and I am looking even more into getting rid of my S22 as battery life has been significantly worse after getting a bt headphone and listening to music.
blackrubi said:
The battery life questions about the Pixel 7 still stands, and I am looking even more into getting rid of my S22 as battery life has been significantly worse after getting a bt headphone and listening to music.
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My answer still stands. Don't expect magic from Pixel 7. The battery life you quoted for your S22 is what we see usually in premium phones, although it would vary depending on the quality and number of apps installed.
You can consider Motorola phones. Their cameras are very good and will give you 'Stock Android' like experience (aka lack of many useful features), since iQOO, Vivo, OnePlus and Xiaomi phones are probably not selling where you live.
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My answer still stands. Don't expect magic from Pixel 7. The battery life you quoted for your S22 is what we see usually in premium phones, although it would vary depending on the quality and number of apps installed.
You can consider Motorola phones. Their cameras are very good and will give you 'Stock Android' like experience (aka lack of many useful features), since iQOO, Vivo, OnePlus and Xiaomi phones are probably not selling where you live.
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It's uni season so I'm on the go much more often. I don't get nearly as much SOT as I have previously. My questions wasn't if the S22's battery life is okay but rather if the Pixel 7 could give me more autonomy.
blackrubi said:
It's uni season so I'm on the go much more often. I don't get nearly as much SOT as I have previously. My questions wasn't if the S22's battery life is okay but rather if the Pixel 7 could give me more autonomy.
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Pixel phones are only about their cameras. There is nothing special about stock Android or their so called 'clean' software (I have already explained why that is so). And you get great cameras (if not absolute best) with other brands too.
Have you considered doing a factory reset of your S22? That might help. Also try and stick with installing only the essential apps that you use regularly.
I might also add something here. I can relate to how you feel. You have kind of tuned your mind to get the Pixel 7 now. If you can resist this urge for a month or two, the desire to buy it will fade away.
The reason I suggest you don't make the switch is primarily because I think it won't serve the purpose you're looking for. Or at the very least, won't justify losing money on the S22 and spending on getting the Pixel 7, unless there is a really good deal on offer.