I have always been a fan and user of Nexus devices, and I was waiting for Nexus 5 to come out but then eventually I chosen HTC One over the Nexus. I bought the unlocked version of HTC One from Amazon. The Phone came with 4.2 but I received the 4.3 OTA update.
The bootloader shows that the phone is locked and S-ON.
My questions are; will unlocking the bootloader wipe everything -used to do so with the Nexus? If it does wipe everything; will the software version remain 4.3 or a downgrade to 4.2 takes place?
Also, would converting S-ON to S-OFF wipe anything?
The warranty is not an issue here for me.
Another question; I've Googled everywhere and to change the lock screen setting was through Settings>Personalize>Lock screen. The look screen is non existent under "Personalize" in my phone. A screenshot is attached.
Thanks in advance!
Unlocking the bootloader via htcdev.com will wipe your data, but the system will stay on 4.3.
Probably you have hboot version 1.54 or 1.55, so you will have to use rumrunner to get S-Off. Doing that will not wipe anything.
The personalize options for the lockscreen are gone with Sense 5.5 / Android 4.3.
They simply removed that.
But you can now scroll to the right on your lockscreen to add lockscreen widgets. (Multiple pages, not just one like before the 4.3 update).
tomcat84 said:
Unlocking the bootloader via htcdev.com will wipe your data, but the system will stay on 4.3.
Probably you have hboot version 1.54 or 1.55, so you will have to use rumrunner to get S-Off. Doing that will not wipe anything.
The personalize options for the lockscreen are gone with Sense 5.5 / Android 4.3.
They simply removed that.
But you can now scroll to the right on your lockscreen to add lockscreen widgets. (Multiple pages, not just one like before the 4.3 update).
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I have HBOOT-1.5.0000
Thanks a lot for your help!
tomcat84 said:
Unlocking the bootloader via htcdev.com will wipe your data, but the system will stay on 4.3.
Probably you have hboot version 1.54 or 1.55, so you will have to use rumrunner to get S-Off. Doing that will not wipe anything.
The personalize options for the lockscreen are gone with Sense 5.5 / Android 4.3.
They simply removed that.
But you can now scroll to the right on your lockscreen to add lockscreen widgets. (Multiple pages, not just one like before the 4.3 update).
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One last question, can I unlock, S-OFF, and root without installing a custom recovery -keeping my stock recovery?
In theory that should be possible, but Im not sure to be honest.
Flashing clockworkmod recovery was the first thing I did after unlocking via htcdev...
tomcat84 said:
In theory that should be possible, but Im not sure to be honest.
Flashing clockworkmod recovery was the first thing I did after unlocking via htcdev...
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It was possible on the nexus running 4.3 through side loading
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M_Shaaban said:
One last question, can I unlock, S-OFF, and root without installing a custom recovery -keeping my stock recovery?
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Should be possible to root without installing custom recovery :
1)Unlock via htcdev.
2)S-off via rumrunner.
3)Root using this tool :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190395
M_Shaaban said:
One last question, can I unlock, S-OFF, and root without installing a custom recovery -keeping my stock recovery?
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Hi the answer is yes and no.
Depends on your usage.
Leaving stock recovery installed to be honest doesn't really have any benefits and 9 times out of ten s-off removes the feature to recieve OTA updates.
Your best option to be honest is to s-off using rummrunner and install firmware and rom you want. If you dont want to modify anything on the phone then there is no point in achieving s-off as you can risk hard bricking your device.
Any Questions Give me a shout.
Kris
klashnikoff said:
Hi the answer is yes and no.
Depends on your usage.
Leaving stock recovery installed to be honest doesn't really have any benefits and 9 times out of ten s-off removes the feature to recieve OTA updates.
Your best option to be honest is to s-off using rummrunner and install firmware and rom you want. If you dont want to modify anything on the phone then there is no point in achieving s-off as you can risk hard bricking your device.
Any Questions Give me a shout.
Kris
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Thanks klashnikoff
For the time being, I want just to root my phone. Later on I may consider converting into GPE. Do I have to unlock the bootloader and/or s-off before rooting? Or can I root the phone directly? Thanks again!
acritec said:
Should be possible to root without installing custom recovery :
1)Unlock via htcdev.
2)S-off via rumrunner.
3)Root using this tool :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190395
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Thanks!
M_Shaaban said:
Thanks klashnikoff
For the time being, I want just to root my phone. Later on I may consider converting into GPE. Do I have to unlock the bootloader and/or s-off before rooting? Or can I root the phone directly? Thanks again!
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Hey no your going to need to flash custom recovery I'm afraid there is no one click method for HTC one. So your going to need to flash custom recovery to allow any form of rooting as you need to flash the superuser repository onto your phone you can't simply just intstall the all and hope for the best.
Wouldn't bother with gpe either.
Been there done that it's crap.
All the things that make this phone good come from HTC sense.
And again unless you have any actual need to flash any custom roms to the phone I would hold off rooting or s-off on your phone. Most people loose the ability to OTA update and also htcdev collect the imei of your phone invalidating the warranty.
And there is absolutely no way to root without unlocking boot.
Hope this helps Kris
klashnikoff said:
Hey no your going to need to flash custom recovery I'm afraid there is no one click method for HTC one. So your going to need to flash custom recovery to allow any form of rooting as you need to flash the superuser repository onto your phone you can't simply just intstall the all and hope for the best.
Wouldn't bother with gpe either.
Been there done that it's crap.
All the things that make this phone good come from HTC sense.
And again unless you have any actual need to flash any custom roms to the phone I would hold off rooting or s-off on your phone. Most people loose the ability to OTA update and also htcdev collect the imei of your phone invalidating the warranty.
And there is absolutely no way to root without unlocking boot.
Hope this helps Kris
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I bought the phone from the US but I'm using it abroad, and the warranty is not working where I am now.
I just need some Apps that requires rooting, but I think I will hold a bit.
Thanks a lot Kris
klashnikoff said:
Hey no your going to need to flash custom recovery I'm afraid there is no one click method for HTC one. So your going to need to flash custom recovery to allow any form of rooting as you need to flash the superuser repository onto your phone you can't simply just intstall the all and hope for the best.
Wouldn't bother with gpe either.
Been there done that it's crap.
All the things that make this phone good come from HTC sense.
And again unless you have any actual need to flash any custom roms to the phone I would hold off rooting or s-off on your phone. Most people loose the ability to OTA update and also htcdev collect the imei of your phone invalidating the warranty.
And there is absolutely no way to root without unlocking boot.
Hope this helps Kris
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This is irrelevant I know, but I have noticed a strange thing; that there are two different incoming call screen that changes automatically. Is that optional or what? Sorry for the many questions I'm asking you. Thanks a lot Kris
M_Shaaban said:
This is irrelevant I know, but I have noticed a strange thing; that there are two different incoming call screen that changes automatically. Is that optional or what? Sorry for the many questions I'm asking you. Thanks a lot Kris
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Hmm that is strange. The only thing I can think of is if you have some form of aosp aspects installed on your phone. Download es file explorer enable root browser and view the system apps and see if there is two phone all's installed. It's bot uncommon to have system all's from aosp roms installed. I have three cameras lol sense one cyanogen one and the nexus one lol
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klashnikoff said:
Hmm that is strange. The only thing I can think of is if you have some form of aosp aspects installed on your phone. Download es file explorer enable root browser and view the system apps and see if there is two phone all's installed. It's bot uncommon to have system all's from aosp roms installed. I have three cameras lol sense one cyanogen one and the nexus one lol
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Actually I've just thought is the handset second hand? It could be a gpe edition convert. If thats the case then I reverse my statement to say forget stock abd get that bad boy s-off'd lol
klashnikoff said:
Hmm that is strange. The only thing I can think of is if you have some form of aosp aspects installed on your phone. Download es file explorer enable root browser and view the system apps and see if there is two phone all's installed. It's bot uncommon to have system all's from aosp roms installed. I have three cameras lol sense one cyanogen one and the nexus one lol
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Actually I've just thought is the handset second hand? It could be a gpe edition convert. If thats the case then I reverse my statement to say forget stock abd get that bad boy s-off'd lol
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This is a brand new handset. I'll try and install ES File Explorer. Which exact path and filename?
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M_Shaaban said:
This is a brand new handset. I'll try and install ES File Explorer. Which exact path and filename?
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Sorry mate my brain isn't working today forget everything I said es file explorer won't work as you havnt rooted the phone.. lol but it's defo not normal
Would give HTC a ring
klashnikoff said:
Sorry mate my brain isn't working today forget everything I said es file explorer won't work as you havnt rooted the phone.. lol but it's defo not normal
Would give HTC a ring
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well then simply I have a crazy phone
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So I'm wanting to install the OTA ICS update but it fails and I get the little red exclamation point when I try.. I am assuming this is because my bootloader is unlocked? I've been trying to find a way to install it but the only one I found was one requiring S-OFF which I don't have..
So basically my question is can I install ICS on my rooted unlocked bootloader?
If absolutely necessary I can always lock it, install, then re unlock it but that's such a pain.. AT&T gets on my nerves sometimes..
I am almost positive that you have to do the re-lock process unless somehow they found another way. You should probably read around next time. Most likely, someone has already asked your question.
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I've read quite a few threads but haven't been able to find anything.. and like I said, I did find one but it requires S-OFF and the juniper thing, or whatever to lazy to look up the name right now lol, is not released yet.. and I haven't been able to find another way to get S-OFF..
If you want ics that bad you have to do it like every one else here...there is no reason to whine cause your to lazy to relock the bootloader ..it take all of about three mins for me to relock mine ... and about 20 min to do the whole process...you don't need s off to get ics if your using the vivid or velocity. there's no place for lazy people here so please just do it like ever one else or do with out
I'm fully aware you don't NEED S-OFF to get ICS its the only way I have found to do it with an unlocked bootloader if you even bothered to read my post. And if your going to be rude and unhelpful stay out of my thread, people like you are why forums loose members. I simply asked a question I never said I was lazy and wouldn't do it I was simply looking for an easier alternative.
The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.
becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.
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ccb101 said:
Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
lmftmf said:
Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.
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and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
Iomega0318 said:
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Thanks for the help guys. I relocked the bootloader and ran the RUU, then did the OTA. After that I used the noob proof tool thing in the dev forums and installed the WCX recovery and then rooted with the same tool as well. Currently typing on it, and loving it!
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There is another way.
Iomega0318 said:
Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid
Aus_Azn said:
There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Yeah I have been keeping an eye on WhildChild and he just realeased a new version.. So going to give that a try tonight, hope it goes ok, if not I'll be back lol..
daspazz said:
I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid
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Nice! Wish I found that earlier, right now I am probably going to use WhildChilds ROM since he has put so much into it and over clocked the kernel..
....or install a custom ROM and then unroot it, and have no problems in usage?
subvertbeats said:
....or install a custom ROM and then unroot it, and have no problems in usage?
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Your phone does not have to be rooted (installed supersu.apk , superuser.apk ... ) to flash a cutom rom.
If you want to unroot any custom rom, you simply have to remove the superuser.apk / supersu.apk. And you normally wont have any problem
MICH_** said:
Your phone does not have to be rooted (installed supersu.apk , superuser.apk ... ) to flash a cutom rom.
If you want to unroot any custom rom, you simply have to remove the superuser.apk / supersu.apk. And you normally wont have any problem
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Many thanks - I want to be able to view work emails on my device, and a new policy prevents access if root is detected.
I'm familiar with flashing Samsung and Nexus devices, but HTC is new to me.
If I understand correctly, I just need to:
- Unlock device via htcdev.com
- Copy custom rom to internal storage
- Backup internal storage
- Boot to recovery (do I need to flash a custom recovery?)
- Install custom rom
Is that correct?
You will need a custom recovery, yes. Why don't you want root access?
subvertbeats said:
Many thanks - I want to be able to view work emails on my device, and a new policy prevents access if root is detected.
I'm familiar with flashing Samsung and Nexus devices, but HTC is new to me.
If I understand correctly, I just need to:
- Unlock device via htcdev.com
- Copy custom rom to internal storage
- Backup internal storage
- Boot to recovery (do I need to flash a custom recovery?)
- Install custom rom
Is that correct?
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unlocking bootloader erases everything. Before you unlock the bootloader disable fastboot andenable usb debugging
Yes you need to flash a custom recovery. I did it after unlocking bootloader with cmd ("adb flash recovery recovery.img")
MICH_** said:
unlocking bootloader erases everything. Before you unlock the bootloader disable fastboot andenable usb debugging
Yes you need to flash a custom recovery. I did it after unlocking bootloader with cmd ("adb flash recovery recovery.img")
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It's actually fastboot flash recovery recovery.img, adb is only when Android/recovery is running
EddyOS said:
It's actually fastboot flash recovery recovery.img, adb is only when Android/recovery is running
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Thanks guys.
Eddy - I need to check work emails on the phone, and a new security policy prevents access if root is detected.
One more Q: Is it possible for me to install stock a GPe rom to the device?
PS Eddy: Red or Blue? I organise this: www.rideforthe96.co.uk
EddyOS said:
It's actually fastboot flash recovery recovery.img, adb is only when Android/recovery is running
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Oh yes! sorry! "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"
subvertbeats said:
Thanks guys.
Eddy - I need to check work emails on the phone, and a new security policy prevents access if root is detected.
One more Q: Is it possible for me to install stock a GPe rom to the device?
PS Eddy: Red or Blue? I organise this: www.rideforthe96.co.uk
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Neither, I'm an Arsenal fan (I live in Liverpool, though, as my GF is doing her PhD)
subvertbeats said:
Thanks guys.
Eddy - I need to check work emails on the phone, and a new security policy prevents access if root is detected.
One more Q: Is it possible for me to install stock a GPe rom to the device?
PS Eddy: Red or Blue? I organise this: www.rideforthe96.co.uk
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sure, just download a GPe based rom insted of a sense rom
MICH_** said:
sure, just download a GPe based rom insted of a sense rom
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Thanks - Seems like thats the easiest way (I found info that says you need S-Off and modified CID to convert to a 'Stock GPe' rom).
EddyOS - Regarding S-Off - not something I want to do at the moment, but your sig caught my eye - I thought S-Off wasn't possible with 1.54 hboot?
about Arsenal......I'll forgive you, most of my mates down here are Gooners
subvertbeats said:
Thanks - Seems like thats the easiest way (I found info that says you need S-Off and modified CID to convert to a 'Stock GPe' rom).
EddyOS - Regarding S-Off - not something I want to do at the moment, but your sig caught my eye - I thought S-Off wasn't possible with 1.54 hboot?
about Arsenal......I'll forgive you, most of my mates down here are Gooners
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It's not, I did it when on HBOOT 1.44 and it sticks when you update
And we'll come good, always start off slow and get good when it counts!
MICH_** said:
sure, just download a GPe based rom insted of a sense rom
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EddyOS said:
It's not, I did it when on HBOOT 1.44 and it sticks when you update
And we'll come good, always start off slow and get good when it counts!
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I'm enjoying our start to the season while it lasts!
Anyway, back on topic, I'm actually really enjoying the stock Sense rom (pretty amazing experience comared to Touchwiz on Sammy devices), so I think I'll try a 4.3 Sense based rom. Do you have any recommendations? Ideally as close to stock with as few mods as possible.
I'm looking at a few of the available roms now, but none of them really stand out as the one to go for.
Finally - when I unlock my bootloader, the device will be wiped - so how much (if any?) of my set up and data will be saved / restored via HTC backup when I install a 4.3 sense based rom?
I actually love Sense 5 but today I've put the latest GPe build on my phone (100% stock as I have no need to root). I had a Nexus 4 before so it's nice to see a full HD stock Android build that all works as it should
Once HTC release the official 4.3 Sense update I'll go back to stock again
EddyOS said:
I actually love Sense 5 but today I've put the latest GPe build on my phone (100% stock as I have no need to root). I had a Nexus 4 before so it's nice to see a full HD stock Android build that all works as it should
Once HTC release the official 4.3 Sense update I'll go back to stock again
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Cheers Eddy, much appreciated!
subvertbeats said:
I'm enjoying our start to the season while it lasts!
Anyway, back on topic, I'm actually really enjoying the stock Sense rom (pretty amazing experience comared to Touchwiz on Sammy devices), so I think I'll try a 4.3 Sense based rom. Do you have any recommendations? Ideally as close to stock with as few mods as possible.
I'm looking at a few of the available roms now, but none of them really stand out as the one to go for.
Finally - when I unlock my bootloader, the device will be wiped - so how much (if any?) of my set up and data will be saved / restored via HTC backup when I install a 4.3 sense based rom?
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I am using ViperOne and i LOVE it! If you want something almost stock, i would recommend AndroidRevolutionHD
in my case it did not restore anything by HTC backup. I do not use it. I am setting up everything by myself when i install a new rom. (of course not contacts, etc, this is restored by my google account)
Great, thanks MICH
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subvertbeats said:
....or install a custom ROM and then unroot it, and have no problems in usage?
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No possible. Unless you are S-Off, which is unlikely. You need root to install custom roms with S-Off (most likely your case).
After you install custom roms you may not like it and want to go back to stock so you can get normal upgrades to 4.2.2 or 4.3. Then you need to
relock your bootloader and flash a RUU.zip which is the stock 4.1.2.
edepot said:
No possible. Unless you are S-Off, which is unlikely. You need root to install custom roms with S-Off (most likely your case).
After you install custom roms you may not like it and want to go back to stock so you can get normal upgrades to 4.2.2 or 4.3. Then you need to
relock your bootloader and flash a RUU.zip which is the stock 4.1.2.
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1.
The information you're giving people is incorrect.
2.
Why are you flooding the forum with this video?
3.
Why are you advising everyone to use an RUU?
4.
Stop it.
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CoryTallman said:
1.
The information you're giving people is incorrect.
2.
Why are you flooding the forum with this video?
3.
Why are you advising everyone to use an RUU?
4.
Stop it.
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Oops. Typo. Let me restate it. You need root if you are S-On. You don't need root if you are S-Off.
I have an HTC ONE on verizon.
I have been reading up on unlocking of the bootloader, rooting and achieving s-off, I have a few questions that I am hoping the XDA community can help with.
1.I am on 4.3 jellybean on my ONE will the new tool for HTC devices?
2. I just checked and the new software for the one 4.4 KitKat is out for my version of the one finally! My question is would the new tool still work if I took the 4.4 OTA update or would I loose the ability to use the new tool?
3. Also I know in this process some where that you loose everything on your phone, can someone recommend a method and/or an app to backup all of that stuff so that I do not loose it?
As for backing up your data, I'd suggest Helium. Since you're not rooyed, you will need a companion app on your computer.
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anyone else ideas?
Noobies should not attempt to root or modify
Dont take the kk update and use firewater to unlock and get s-off. Once s-off flash a recovery and use it to backup the phone. Make sure to move the backup to your pc. Then reflash stock recovery and take the ota. Then reflash custom recovery and flash superuser with it. You would then be s-off stock rooted kitkat.
On the other hand, if you don't want S-Off (I doubt you need it), you should OTA-upgrade first to get the newest firmware for your device, then unlock and root. You should still be able to S-Off after that if you want.
If you go this route, you will lose all the contents of the phone. Helium (buggy as it is, it mostly works) a backup of SMS/call log/contacts (if they're not stored in a Google account), and a backup of /sdcard is approximately everything. Also take screenshots of what your desktop looks like, just in case you have a hard time getting that back.
You can take the ota first, it has been confirmed that firewater works on the new ota.
fenstre said:
On the other hand, if you don't want S-Off (I doubt you need it), you should OTA-upgrade first to get the newest firmware for your device, then unlock and root. You should still be able to S-Off after that if you want.
If you go this route, you will lose all the contents of the phone. Helium (buggy as it is, it mostly works) a backup of SMS/call log/contacts (if they're not stored in a Google account), and a backup of /sdcard is approximately everything. Also take screenshots of what your desktop looks like, just in case you have a hard time getting that back.
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I agree. I doubt you will need S-OFF. You really only need it if the phone didn't allow flashing kernels, radios, and images with S-ON. But since you only need root with the HTC One, I'd suggest to stay away from S-OFF. A simple typo could brick your phone if I'm not mistaken.
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cmlusco said:
You can take the ota first, it has been confirmed that firewater works on the new ota.
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Are you sure? I have been reading around these forums and others and haven't heard anything? Not doubting you just don't want to take the OTA update and then loose my chance to do this to my phone?
I just Ulocked, rooted and S-offed my Freshly OTA updated to 4.4.2 One. No problems or issues.
I used :
HTCDEV to unlock
CWM for recovery and root
and FireWater to S-off
Had some hiccups along the way but nothing that came close to bricking it. Just had to change a few settings and permissions.
Asking questions in International GSM htc one will not help with a Verizon device
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cmlusco said:
You can take the ota first, it has been confirmed that firewater works on the new ota.
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Iz3man said:
I just Ulocked, rooted and S-offed my Freshly OTA updated to 4.4.2 One. No problems or issues.
I used :
HTCDEV to unlock
CWM for recovery and root
and FireWater to S-off
Had some hiccups along the way but nothing that came close to bricking it. Just had to change a few settings and permissions.
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I thought HTC Dev no longer worked for the htc one?
JSDragon said:
I thought HTC Dev no longer worked for the htc one?
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Worked great for me yesterday. They emailed me a Unlock.bin file, ran it withbadb and presto unlocked.
Iz3man said:
Worked great for me yesterday. They emailed me a Unlock.bin file, ran it withbadb and presto unlocked.
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what would you recommend for backing up all of your stuff so you can restore it after all of this?
JSDragon said:
what would you recommend for backing up all of your stuff so you can restore it after all of this?
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I use adb backup its so far the best I've used... I didntvuse anything this go around, this one was a warranty replacement and I've been driving with my note 3... I just decided to unlock, root and soff this yesterday as a weeknight project
Iz3man said:
I use adb backup its so far the best I've used... I didntvuse anything this go around, this one was a warranty replacement and I've been driving with my note 3... I just decided to unlock, root and soff this yesterday as a weeknight project
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Mmmmm not sure how to use that for backing up my phone.
I honestly can't believe I am asking such a rudimentary question with how long I've been here, but it's always been "htcdev root then s-off exploit" before.
Now though, I have the option of just simply installing Weaksauce to get a temproot... then running that Firewater adb script with that temproot to get S-OFF, essentially getting S-OFF without needing a (permanent) root first.
To be honest, the only reason I even want root right now is to install that app/patcher that removes the SD card restrictions KitKat added. Again, before since I had to use htcdev first I would root, then install a rooted rom, then get S-OFF, so I already had a permrooted rom before I gained S-OFF. If I already have S-OFF(that means I have full access to the entire flashrom right?), would I still not have root access because the rom itself doesn't give me that access? And if so, can I just modify a permissions file or something similar, or would I need to flash a rooted version of the stock rom? I know those exist, but since I just got this phone I don't want to heavily modify it's software just yet. I know it will still have bloatware, and as much as I hate it, almost all of it is uninstallable on the stock Sprint M8 rom (wish I coudl get rid of Sprint Zone and Sprint ID though).
Well, that, and the other reason is because this phone basically came out less than a month ago, and already had a firmware update from Sprint, it is sure to get more updates down the road. Would rooting and getting S-OFF prevent me from installing official updates? (I don't want to have to wait for a modified version to become available, and if I was going to go down that route, I might as well just use a custom rom). Or could an official update lock me back to S-ON and require me to run the exploit again (providing they didn't also patch said exploit in the update)?
Oh, and oen final thing, because I constantly hear that changing the battery (admittedly, not an issue with the M8) or doing this or that breaks Google Wallet for security purposes, would doing any of this stop Google Wallet and it's NFC features from working?
Weaksauce doesn't work on the Sprint M8.
And of course you can still take OTA updates while S-OFF (as long as your system is completely stock and you have the stock recovery).
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Weaksauce doesn't work on the Sprint M8.
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Oh, I was under the impression that it could
So then my only option is the htcdev unlock? I really want to avoid basically telling HTC "Don't let this IMEI have any warranty service" if I can. I still won't have any issues getting S-OFF if I use the htcdev method though, right?
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Oh, I was under the impression that it could
So then my only option is the htcdev unlock? I really want to avoid basically telling HTC "Don't let this IMEI have any warranty service" if I can. I still won't have any issues getting S-OFF if I use the htcdev method though, right?
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No, HTC Dev won't interfere with you gaining S-off.
So, does anybody know about the Google Wallet thing?
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So, does anybody know about the Google Wallet thing?
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What "thing" are you referring to?
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What "thing" are you referring to?
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Last line in my original post:
Oh, and oen final thing, because I constantly hear that changing the battery (admittedly, not an issue with the M8) or doing this or that breaks Google Wallet for security purposes, would doing any of this stop Google Wallet and it's NFC features from working?
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Google Wallet and all its features should work just fine.
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Google Wallet and all its features should work just fine.
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Fin is correct, that was an issue with the EVO LTE when it first came out, people were not first disabling Wallet before they flashed, and this caused an issue with app reinstallation. I believe that was resolved many updates ago for wallet.
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Fin is correct, that was an issue with the EVO LTE when it first came out, people were not first disabling Wallet before they flashed, and this caused an issue with app reinstallation. I believe that was resolved many updates ago for wallet.
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Thank you for the detailed response, It's a great help when people also explain why something does or doesn't work in some way.
So basically, to summarize, for a Sprint M8 I can only use the official dev unlock, and even the temporarily root methods don't work, but after I use the dev unlock I can run firewater to get S-Off?
I am going to have to install a rom with root access after I use the dev unlock though and not be able to rely on the Stock rom through aren't I? I can still get a rom that is 100% the stock rom, just with root access though, right?
Would I have to worry about anything or an OTA resetting me to S-ON? Especially if it can fix the exploit that currently allows for S-Off?
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Thank you for the detailed response, It's a great help when people also explain why something does or doesn't work in some way.
So basically, to summarize, for a Sprint M8 I can only use the official dev unlock, and even the temporarily root methods don't work, but after I use the dev unlock I can run firewater to get S-Off?
I am going to have to install a rom with root access after I use the dev unlock though and not be able to rely on the Stock rom through aren't I? I can still get a rom that is 100% the stock rom, just with root access though, right?
Would I have to worry about anything or an OTA resetting me to S-ON? Especially if it can fix the exploit that currently allows for S-Off?
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Yes, use HTC Dev to unlock, install a custom recovery, then flash SuperSU for root access. You can then use Firewater to gain S-off. You can stay on the stock ROM, just be warned that you'll get update notifications if you aren't on the latest OTA update. Having said that, you won't be able to install said update unless you reinstall the stock recovery.
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Having said that, you won't be able to install said update unless you reinstall the stock recovery.
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It's only the recovery that matters? Not the S-Off or having Dev unlock or anything else? And only for installing a stock update, not running it after it's been installed?
Isn't that easy to flash and re-flash? Can't I just easily re-flash back to a stock recovery, install the OTA, then flash back?
Oh, and can I lose S-Off in a future update or something this way? Or is it permanent once applied? (Although I know you can hex-exit the bootloader to make it look like it's still S-On, not sure if I want to do that since it sounds extremely risky).
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It's only the recovery that matters? Not the S-Off or having Dev unlock or anything else? And only for installing a stock update, not running it after it's been installed?
Isn't that easy to flash and re-flash? Can't I just easily re-flash back to a stock recovery, install the OTA, then flash back?
Oh, and can I lose S-Off in a future update or something this way? Or is it permanent once applied? (Although I know you can hex-exit the bootloader to make it look like it's still S-On, not sure if I want to do that since it sounds extremely risky).
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It's that easy, yes, and no, you can't lose S-off by applying an OTA update. Take a look at the thread in the link below for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2720558
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Story:
So I have been using this device with call recording, because it's a feature I really wanted. That's the main reason I went with Android.
The feature always worked only 50%. My voice is loud and clear, other party is quite quiet.
It was worse in my previous One X, so no complaints here.
But, if I check a Samsung phone, or an LG, the recording is crystal clear over there. It works there, it's loud, it's perfect.
My big question here is:
- Should I root with sunshine? (with skvalex recorder -CAF + ALSA, it is said to be working.)
- Should I wait for L? Will it change anything? Anyone have a leaked image to test?
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My big question here is:
- Should I root with sunshine?
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Sunshine is not needed to root your M7, its mainly a S-OFF exploit. All you need to do to root is to unlock your bootloader, flash TWRP and the latest supersu.
Don't think lollipop will change anything in the sound quality but if you want to give it a try, the latest MaximusHD rom is based on lollipop.
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All you need to do to root is to unlock your bootloader, flash TWRP and the latest supersu
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Warranty is the only thing that concerns me. And the available root methods.
I had to return my One X several times, and people in the M7 forum complain about several issues plaguing the M7 as well.
Do you know a good reversible / simple root method?
(TWRP is the second thing, how am I supposed to revert it to stock state after flashing TWRP?
Do I have to flash back the original stock fw? And will the device forget about the root? - I read that HTC also have a "tampered with" warning message.)
And the phone is also "mission critical", so the smoothest way to root would be the best.
Don't think lollipop will change anything in the sound quality but if you want to give it a try, the latest MaximusHD rom is based on lollipop.
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Yeah, I was hoping that users of MaximusHD will reply and tell me if it fixed it on their device.
I was thinking if the new API fixed recording - magically.
Ps.: Thanks for your quick reply!
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Warranty is the only thing that concerns me. And the available root methods.
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Rooting the M7 is always done by unlocking the bootloader, flashing a custom recovery and then either flashing a pre-rooted rom or flashing supersu. SO I don't get what you mean by "root methods", there is only one method to root. For your warranty to be valid, your bootloader must be locked (not re-locked) and no "Tampered" flag showing. Removing the Tampered flag from the bootloader and setting it back to locked instead of re-locked require S-OFF. S-OFF is achieved with different exploits depending your bootloader version. You also need your software and firmware to be 100% stock for your warranty to be valid which might require to flash a RUU if any available for your version.
I had to return my One X several times, and people in the M7 forum complain about several issues plaguing the M7 as well.
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I also had the One X (endeavor variant) before the M7 and believe me, you can't compare these 2 phones. The X was pure garbage compared to the M7. Don't know what issues you are talking about for the M7, the only common issue is the camera purple hue.
Do you know a good reversible / simple root method?
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Like said there is 1 method to root --> Unlock BL, flash custom recovery ---> flash a rooted rom or flash supersu on your stock rom. Unrooting for warranty purpose will require S-OFF and possibly a RUU
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... Like said there is 1 method to root --> Unlock BL, flash custom recovery ---> flash a rooted rom or flash supersu on your stock rom. Unrooting for warranty purpose will require S-OFF and possibly a RUU
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Thanks for the lenghty post and explanation.
So capping that up (real short):
- I need S-OFF after all, to revert if needed.
- So I need Sunshine or any other method - that is compatible with my bootloader - which gives me S-OFF.
One last q: Sunshine now features a supersu installer as well.
Can I just use that (implying it will work)?
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Download SunShine SUInstaller
SUInstaller is our free application for installing su (aka "perm rooting") devices that have already been unlocked. SUInstaller is the "lazy man's route", and is not entirely reliable. To use SUInstaller run it, once the phone reboots install SuperSU from the market, run SuperSU and allow it to update the su binaries with the "normal" option. If SUInstaller fails, you will need to install su through a custom recovery, or another route. SUInstaller is provided with no warranty, nor guarantee, no nothing, but it is free.
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To be honest I don't really want to pay, but heck, if it works...