I have an HTC ONE on verizon.
I have been reading up on unlocking of the bootloader, rooting and achieving s-off, I have a few questions that I am hoping the XDA community can help with.
1.I am on 4.3 jellybean on my ONE will the new tool for HTC devices?
2. I just checked and the new software for the one 4.4 KitKat is out for my version of the one finally! My question is would the new tool still work if I took the 4.4 OTA update or would I loose the ability to use the new tool?
3. Also I know in this process some where that you loose everything on your phone, can someone recommend a method and/or an app to backup all of that stuff so that I do not loose it?
As for backing up your data, I'd suggest Helium. Since you're not rooyed, you will need a companion app on your computer.
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anyone else ideas?
Noobies should not attempt to root or modify
Dont take the kk update and use firewater to unlock and get s-off. Once s-off flash a recovery and use it to backup the phone. Make sure to move the backup to your pc. Then reflash stock recovery and take the ota. Then reflash custom recovery and flash superuser with it. You would then be s-off stock rooted kitkat.
On the other hand, if you don't want S-Off (I doubt you need it), you should OTA-upgrade first to get the newest firmware for your device, then unlock and root. You should still be able to S-Off after that if you want.
If you go this route, you will lose all the contents of the phone. Helium (buggy as it is, it mostly works) a backup of SMS/call log/contacts (if they're not stored in a Google account), and a backup of /sdcard is approximately everything. Also take screenshots of what your desktop looks like, just in case you have a hard time getting that back.
You can take the ota first, it has been confirmed that firewater works on the new ota.
fenstre said:
On the other hand, if you don't want S-Off (I doubt you need it), you should OTA-upgrade first to get the newest firmware for your device, then unlock and root. You should still be able to S-Off after that if you want.
If you go this route, you will lose all the contents of the phone. Helium (buggy as it is, it mostly works) a backup of SMS/call log/contacts (if they're not stored in a Google account), and a backup of /sdcard is approximately everything. Also take screenshots of what your desktop looks like, just in case you have a hard time getting that back.
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I agree. I doubt you will need S-OFF. You really only need it if the phone didn't allow flashing kernels, radios, and images with S-ON. But since you only need root with the HTC One, I'd suggest to stay away from S-OFF. A simple typo could brick your phone if I'm not mistaken.
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cmlusco said:
You can take the ota first, it has been confirmed that firewater works on the new ota.
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Are you sure? I have been reading around these forums and others and haven't heard anything? Not doubting you just don't want to take the OTA update and then loose my chance to do this to my phone?
I just Ulocked, rooted and S-offed my Freshly OTA updated to 4.4.2 One. No problems or issues.
I used :
HTCDEV to unlock
CWM for recovery and root
and FireWater to S-off
Had some hiccups along the way but nothing that came close to bricking it. Just had to change a few settings and permissions.
Asking questions in International GSM htc one will not help with a Verizon device
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cmlusco said:
You can take the ota first, it has been confirmed that firewater works on the new ota.
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Iz3man said:
I just Ulocked, rooted and S-offed my Freshly OTA updated to 4.4.2 One. No problems or issues.
I used :
HTCDEV to unlock
CWM for recovery and root
and FireWater to S-off
Had some hiccups along the way but nothing that came close to bricking it. Just had to change a few settings and permissions.
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I thought HTC Dev no longer worked for the htc one?
JSDragon said:
I thought HTC Dev no longer worked for the htc one?
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Worked great for me yesterday. They emailed me a Unlock.bin file, ran it withbadb and presto unlocked.
Iz3man said:
Worked great for me yesterday. They emailed me a Unlock.bin file, ran it withbadb and presto unlocked.
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what would you recommend for backing up all of your stuff so you can restore it after all of this?
JSDragon said:
what would you recommend for backing up all of your stuff so you can restore it after all of this?
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I use adb backup its so far the best I've used... I didntvuse anything this go around, this one was a warranty replacement and I've been driving with my note 3... I just decided to unlock, root and soff this yesterday as a weeknight project
Iz3man said:
I use adb backup its so far the best I've used... I didntvuse anything this go around, this one was a warranty replacement and I've been driving with my note 3... I just decided to unlock, root and soff this yesterday as a weeknight project
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Mmmmm not sure how to use that for backing up my phone.
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I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the CWM with the All-in-one-tool-kit. I am on stock and I want to remain on stock but I want to have root access so I can just get rid of all the bloat. I have gone through the all in one tool kit and ran the perm root and still nothing. Also went into CWM and went to developer and chose install su and superuser and still no luck.
What am I doing wrong exactly?
Have you posted in the all in one thread?
I rooted mine with WCX recovery didn't have any problems very easy to do....
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I obtained root on stock with the remove ciq option, I'm not on stock anymore, but it did root me.
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Why would someone need ROOT and remain on Stock??????
Tripsyou said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the CWM with the All-in-one-tool-kit. I am on stock and I want to remain on stock but I want to have root access so I can just get rid of all the bloat. I have gone through the all in one tool kit and ran the perm root and still nothing. Also went into CWM and went to developer and chose install su and superuser and still no luck.
What am I doing wrong exactly?
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Hey Why do you want to remain on STOCK???
If you would like to go full fledge on your phone with custom ROMS, OC , ROOT. Look for my thread here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676977
You will not regret!!!!!! Because I did the same, I have root access, my phone is OC and a sexy DarkRaider customer ROM with Beats enabled, Swype to unlock and many more features!!!!!
Check it out, this might help you!!!!!
Make sure you have the HTC drivers installed, and HTC sync uninstalled.
You shouldn't have any issues, just make sure to follow every excruciating fine detail to the letter.
I ended up following the instructions here and got root. Running stock OTA Bell ICS with unlocked bootloader and root. Still S-ON.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26648223&postcount=40
Need of S OFF on HTC
mohcho said:
I ended up following the instructions here and got root. Running stock OTA Bell ICS with unlocked bootloader and root. Still S-ON.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26648223&postcount=40
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Hey Bro,
Since you have your HTC Vivid rooted already go ahead and do the S OFF!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26664032#post26664032
Check out for ma thread in the above link and it will geiv you a brief idea how to do the S OFF!!! Many has already done and none reported damaging the phone!!!
Hope it might help you!!!!!
priji85 said:
Hey Bro,
Since you have your HTC Vivid rooted already go ahead and do the S OFF!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26664032#post26664032
Check out for ma thread in the above link and it will geiv you a brief idea how to do the S OFF!!! Many has already done and none reported damaging the phone!!!
Hope it might help you!!!!!
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I know about that method. Just haven't had the need to S-OFF yet. I'm going to be travelling later this summer so I'll just let the dust settle with the ICS update first and then deal with S-OFF so I can use another provider's SIM.
Unlocked, rooted, S OFF, Custom Rom installed!!!!! VIVID
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I know about that method. Just haven't had the need to S-OFF yet. I'm going to be travelling later this summer so I'll just let the dust settle with the ICS update first and then deal with S-OFF so I can use another provider's SIM.
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Hey, S OFF is just needed to make sure that if you install custom ROM so that the kernels get flashed properly, it is not gonna affect anything else.
I have my Vivid fully Sim unlocked, rooted, S OFF and with Dark Raider Rom with Kozmick kernel OC at 1.4ghz with Swype to wake and its awesome!!
Just posted, felt like all who has vivid needs to get the full fledge of it!!!!!
gotta fix root on it. For now, download SU from here\
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
put it on your external sd card. flash it in recovery.
Hi,
I just rooted my HTC One for sprint.
If HTC comes out with over the air updates in the future, will this over-ride my root access?
Or will my phone remain rooted and still be able to update ?
Yes, you will. You could always try something like Ota Rootkeeper but i've never done anything like that lol. If an update comes out though generally you should wait until someone puts up a rooted build of the new update
We tend to get the rooted builds up very fast
mrkool444 said:
Hi,
I just rooted my HTC One for sprint.
If HTC comes out with over the air updates in the future, will this over-ride my root access?
Or will my phone remain rooted and still be able to update ?
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Chtulhu and 3000 years of darkness happens, that's what.
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Bootloops, lots and lots of bootloops...
If you feel comfortable flashing a stock recovery, you can usually run the ota, flash a custom recovery, and re-root. But, not always, and check first.
-Cupper- said:
Yes, you will. You could always try something like Ota Rootkeeper but i've never done anything like that lol. If an update comes out though generally you should wait until someone puts up a rooted build of the new update
We tend to get the rooted builds up very fast
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I've never had anything but problems with OTA Rootkeeper it either boot loops or I lose root every single f****** time
Sent from my HTC One running ViperROM v1.1.0
benmatlock said:
I've never had anything but problems with OTA Rootkeeper it either boot loops or I lose root every single f****** time
Sent from my HTC One running ViperROM v1.1.0
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I've never used it so I wouldn't know lol thanks though i'll stay away for future reference
Also to the OP you should consider installing a 3rd party rom, like Viper ROM
or one of the other variants around Viper ROM is pretty sweet I run it myself and it still has sense
Sent from my HTC One running ViperROM v1.1.0
jaytv said:
Bootloops, lots and lots of bootloops...
If you feel comfortable flashing a stock recovery, you can usually run the ota, flash a custom recovery, and re-root. But, not always, and check first.
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You probably have to Relock to flash it.
Be sure to backup OFF the phone before doing anything.
I backed up with TWRP, copied it off the phone (which I had), I relocked (one ADB command), ran RUU (longest step), took OTA, re-unlocked (just reflash unlock file with ADB), reflashed TWRP, copied backup back on to phone and restored.
PITA but pretty safe and robust.
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You probably have to Relock to flash it.
Be sure to backup OFF the phone before doing anything.
I backed up with TWRP, copied it off the phone (which I had), I relocked (one ADB command), ran RUU (longest step), took OTA, re-unlocked (just reflash unlock file with ADB), reflashed TWRP, copied backup back on to phone and restored.
PITA but pretty safe and robust.
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Nope, the process I describe above works without re-lock. Plus, when you restored your Nandroid, you likely restored the .7 software. I'd check if were you.
jaytv said:
Nope, the process I describe above works without re-lock. Plus, when you restored your Nandroid, you likely restored the .7 software. I'd check if were you.
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I described one way to robustly get the OTA firmware. After restore you just "Dirty" flash any .10 ROM
Or just restore DATA if you want stock.
I have a similar question. I am thinking about rooting my Sprint HTC One, so that I can install apps that require root. I don't mind the stock ROM and I would like to receive OTA updates. If I root my HTC One, will I continue to receive OTA updates?
RATMdrumer said:
I have a similar question. I am thinking about rooting my Sprint HTC One, so that I can install apps that require root. I don't mind the stock ROM and I would like to receive OTA updates. If I root my HTC One, will I continue to receive OTA updates?
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if you have a custom recovery installed the updates will not install
Aldo101t said:
if you have a custom recovery installed the updates will not install
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Can I perform a full system backup without installing a custom recovery?
RATMdrumer said:
Can I perform a full system backup without installing a custom recovery?
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maybe with htc backup, i don't know cuz i don't use it, only way to back up the complete rom is with custom recovery
I have always been a fan and user of Nexus devices, and I was waiting for Nexus 5 to come out but then eventually I chosen HTC One over the Nexus. I bought the unlocked version of HTC One from Amazon. The Phone came with 4.2 but I received the 4.3 OTA update.
The bootloader shows that the phone is locked and S-ON.
My questions are; will unlocking the bootloader wipe everything -used to do so with the Nexus? If it does wipe everything; will the software version remain 4.3 or a downgrade to 4.2 takes place?
Also, would converting S-ON to S-OFF wipe anything?
The warranty is not an issue here for me.
Another question; I've Googled everywhere and to change the lock screen setting was through Settings>Personalize>Lock screen. The look screen is non existent under "Personalize" in my phone. A screenshot is attached.
Thanks in advance!
Unlocking the bootloader via htcdev.com will wipe your data, but the system will stay on 4.3.
Probably you have hboot version 1.54 or 1.55, so you will have to use rumrunner to get S-Off. Doing that will not wipe anything.
The personalize options for the lockscreen are gone with Sense 5.5 / Android 4.3.
They simply removed that.
But you can now scroll to the right on your lockscreen to add lockscreen widgets. (Multiple pages, not just one like before the 4.3 update).
tomcat84 said:
Unlocking the bootloader via htcdev.com will wipe your data, but the system will stay on 4.3.
Probably you have hboot version 1.54 or 1.55, so you will have to use rumrunner to get S-Off. Doing that will not wipe anything.
The personalize options for the lockscreen are gone with Sense 5.5 / Android 4.3.
They simply removed that.
But you can now scroll to the right on your lockscreen to add lockscreen widgets. (Multiple pages, not just one like before the 4.3 update).
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I have HBOOT-1.5.0000
Thanks a lot for your help!
tomcat84 said:
Unlocking the bootloader via htcdev.com will wipe your data, but the system will stay on 4.3.
Probably you have hboot version 1.54 or 1.55, so you will have to use rumrunner to get S-Off. Doing that will not wipe anything.
The personalize options for the lockscreen are gone with Sense 5.5 / Android 4.3.
They simply removed that.
But you can now scroll to the right on your lockscreen to add lockscreen widgets. (Multiple pages, not just one like before the 4.3 update).
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One last question, can I unlock, S-OFF, and root without installing a custom recovery -keeping my stock recovery?
In theory that should be possible, but Im not sure to be honest.
Flashing clockworkmod recovery was the first thing I did after unlocking via htcdev...
tomcat84 said:
In theory that should be possible, but Im not sure to be honest.
Flashing clockworkmod recovery was the first thing I did after unlocking via htcdev...
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It was possible on the nexus running 4.3 through side loading
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M_Shaaban said:
One last question, can I unlock, S-OFF, and root without installing a custom recovery -keeping my stock recovery?
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Should be possible to root without installing custom recovery :
1)Unlock via htcdev.
2)S-off via rumrunner.
3)Root using this tool :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190395
M_Shaaban said:
One last question, can I unlock, S-OFF, and root without installing a custom recovery -keeping my stock recovery?
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Hi the answer is yes and no.
Depends on your usage.
Leaving stock recovery installed to be honest doesn't really have any benefits and 9 times out of ten s-off removes the feature to recieve OTA updates.
Your best option to be honest is to s-off using rummrunner and install firmware and rom you want. If you dont want to modify anything on the phone then there is no point in achieving s-off as you can risk hard bricking your device.
Any Questions Give me a shout.
Kris
klashnikoff said:
Hi the answer is yes and no.
Depends on your usage.
Leaving stock recovery installed to be honest doesn't really have any benefits and 9 times out of ten s-off removes the feature to recieve OTA updates.
Your best option to be honest is to s-off using rummrunner and install firmware and rom you want. If you dont want to modify anything on the phone then there is no point in achieving s-off as you can risk hard bricking your device.
Any Questions Give me a shout.
Kris
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Thanks klashnikoff
For the time being, I want just to root my phone. Later on I may consider converting into GPE. Do I have to unlock the bootloader and/or s-off before rooting? Or can I root the phone directly? Thanks again!
acritec said:
Should be possible to root without installing custom recovery :
1)Unlock via htcdev.
2)S-off via rumrunner.
3)Root using this tool :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190395
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Thanks!
M_Shaaban said:
Thanks klashnikoff
For the time being, I want just to root my phone. Later on I may consider converting into GPE. Do I have to unlock the bootloader and/or s-off before rooting? Or can I root the phone directly? Thanks again!
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Hey no your going to need to flash custom recovery I'm afraid there is no one click method for HTC one. So your going to need to flash custom recovery to allow any form of rooting as you need to flash the superuser repository onto your phone you can't simply just intstall the all and hope for the best.
Wouldn't bother with gpe either.
Been there done that it's crap.
All the things that make this phone good come from HTC sense.
And again unless you have any actual need to flash any custom roms to the phone I would hold off rooting or s-off on your phone. Most people loose the ability to OTA update and also htcdev collect the imei of your phone invalidating the warranty.
And there is absolutely no way to root without unlocking boot.
Hope this helps Kris
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Hey no your going to need to flash custom recovery I'm afraid there is no one click method for HTC one. So your going to need to flash custom recovery to allow any form of rooting as you need to flash the superuser repository onto your phone you can't simply just intstall the all and hope for the best.
Wouldn't bother with gpe either.
Been there done that it's crap.
All the things that make this phone good come from HTC sense.
And again unless you have any actual need to flash any custom roms to the phone I would hold off rooting or s-off on your phone. Most people loose the ability to OTA update and also htcdev collect the imei of your phone invalidating the warranty.
And there is absolutely no way to root without unlocking boot.
Hope this helps Kris
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I bought the phone from the US but I'm using it abroad, and the warranty is not working where I am now.
I just need some Apps that requires rooting, but I think I will hold a bit.
Thanks a lot Kris
klashnikoff said:
Hey no your going to need to flash custom recovery I'm afraid there is no one click method for HTC one. So your going to need to flash custom recovery to allow any form of rooting as you need to flash the superuser repository onto your phone you can't simply just intstall the all and hope for the best.
Wouldn't bother with gpe either.
Been there done that it's crap.
All the things that make this phone good come from HTC sense.
And again unless you have any actual need to flash any custom roms to the phone I would hold off rooting or s-off on your phone. Most people loose the ability to OTA update and also htcdev collect the imei of your phone invalidating the warranty.
And there is absolutely no way to root without unlocking boot.
Hope this helps Kris
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This is irrelevant I know, but I have noticed a strange thing; that there are two different incoming call screen that changes automatically. Is that optional or what? Sorry for the many questions I'm asking you. Thanks a lot Kris
M_Shaaban said:
This is irrelevant I know, but I have noticed a strange thing; that there are two different incoming call screen that changes automatically. Is that optional or what? Sorry for the many questions I'm asking you. Thanks a lot Kris
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Hmm that is strange. The only thing I can think of is if you have some form of aosp aspects installed on your phone. Download es file explorer enable root browser and view the system apps and see if there is two phone all's installed. It's bot uncommon to have system all's from aosp roms installed. I have three cameras lol sense one cyanogen one and the nexus one lol
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klashnikoff said:
Hmm that is strange. The only thing I can think of is if you have some form of aosp aspects installed on your phone. Download es file explorer enable root browser and view the system apps and see if there is two phone all's installed. It's bot uncommon to have system all's from aosp roms installed. I have three cameras lol sense one cyanogen one and the nexus one lol
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Actually I've just thought is the handset second hand? It could be a gpe edition convert. If thats the case then I reverse my statement to say forget stock abd get that bad boy s-off'd lol
klashnikoff said:
Hmm that is strange. The only thing I can think of is if you have some form of aosp aspects installed on your phone. Download es file explorer enable root browser and view the system apps and see if there is two phone all's installed. It's bot uncommon to have system all's from aosp roms installed. I have three cameras lol sense one cyanogen one and the nexus one lol
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Actually I've just thought is the handset second hand? It could be a gpe edition convert. If thats the case then I reverse my statement to say forget stock abd get that bad boy s-off'd lol
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This is a brand new handset. I'll try and install ES File Explorer. Which exact path and filename?
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M_Shaaban said:
This is a brand new handset. I'll try and install ES File Explorer. Which exact path and filename?
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Sorry mate my brain isn't working today forget everything I said es file explorer won't work as you havnt rooted the phone.. lol but it's defo not normal
Would give HTC a ring
klashnikoff said:
Sorry mate my brain isn't working today forget everything I said es file explorer won't work as you havnt rooted the phone.. lol but it's defo not normal
Would give HTC a ring
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well then simply I have a crazy phone
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I honestly can't believe I am asking such a rudimentary question with how long I've been here, but it's always been "htcdev root then s-off exploit" before.
Now though, I have the option of just simply installing Weaksauce to get a temproot... then running that Firewater adb script with that temproot to get S-OFF, essentially getting S-OFF without needing a (permanent) root first.
To be honest, the only reason I even want root right now is to install that app/patcher that removes the SD card restrictions KitKat added. Again, before since I had to use htcdev first I would root, then install a rooted rom, then get S-OFF, so I already had a permrooted rom before I gained S-OFF. If I already have S-OFF(that means I have full access to the entire flashrom right?), would I still not have root access because the rom itself doesn't give me that access? And if so, can I just modify a permissions file or something similar, or would I need to flash a rooted version of the stock rom? I know those exist, but since I just got this phone I don't want to heavily modify it's software just yet. I know it will still have bloatware, and as much as I hate it, almost all of it is uninstallable on the stock Sprint M8 rom (wish I coudl get rid of Sprint Zone and Sprint ID though).
Well, that, and the other reason is because this phone basically came out less than a month ago, and already had a firmware update from Sprint, it is sure to get more updates down the road. Would rooting and getting S-OFF prevent me from installing official updates? (I don't want to have to wait for a modified version to become available, and if I was going to go down that route, I might as well just use a custom rom). Or could an official update lock me back to S-ON and require me to run the exploit again (providing they didn't also patch said exploit in the update)?
Oh, and oen final thing, because I constantly hear that changing the battery (admittedly, not an issue with the M8) or doing this or that breaks Google Wallet for security purposes, would doing any of this stop Google Wallet and it's NFC features from working?
Weaksauce doesn't work on the Sprint M8.
And of course you can still take OTA updates while S-OFF (as long as your system is completely stock and you have the stock recovery).
Captain_Throwback said:
Weaksauce doesn't work on the Sprint M8.
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Oh, I was under the impression that it could
So then my only option is the htcdev unlock? I really want to avoid basically telling HTC "Don't let this IMEI have any warranty service" if I can. I still won't have any issues getting S-OFF if I use the htcdev method though, right?
Cyber Akuma said:
Oh, I was under the impression that it could
So then my only option is the htcdev unlock? I really want to avoid basically telling HTC "Don't let this IMEI have any warranty service" if I can. I still won't have any issues getting S-OFF if I use the htcdev method though, right?
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No, HTC Dev won't interfere with you gaining S-off.
So, does anybody know about the Google Wallet thing?
Cyber Akuma said:
So, does anybody know about the Google Wallet thing?
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What "thing" are you referring to?
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FinZ28 said:
What "thing" are you referring to?
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Last line in my original post:
Oh, and oen final thing, because I constantly hear that changing the battery (admittedly, not an issue with the M8) or doing this or that breaks Google Wallet for security purposes, would doing any of this stop Google Wallet and it's NFC features from working?
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Google Wallet and all its features should work just fine.
Sent from my HTC device
FinZ28 said:
Google Wallet and all its features should work just fine.
Sent from my HTC device
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Fin is correct, that was an issue with the EVO LTE when it first came out, people were not first disabling Wallet before they flashed, and this caused an issue with app reinstallation. I believe that was resolved many updates ago for wallet.
03orlandor6 said:
Fin is correct, that was an issue with the EVO LTE when it first came out, people were not first disabling Wallet before they flashed, and this caused an issue with app reinstallation. I believe that was resolved many updates ago for wallet.
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Thank you for the detailed response, It's a great help when people also explain why something does or doesn't work in some way.
So basically, to summarize, for a Sprint M8 I can only use the official dev unlock, and even the temporarily root methods don't work, but after I use the dev unlock I can run firewater to get S-Off?
I am going to have to install a rom with root access after I use the dev unlock though and not be able to rely on the Stock rom through aren't I? I can still get a rom that is 100% the stock rom, just with root access though, right?
Would I have to worry about anything or an OTA resetting me to S-ON? Especially if it can fix the exploit that currently allows for S-Off?
Cyber Akuma said:
Thank you for the detailed response, It's a great help when people also explain why something does or doesn't work in some way.
So basically, to summarize, for a Sprint M8 I can only use the official dev unlock, and even the temporarily root methods don't work, but after I use the dev unlock I can run firewater to get S-Off?
I am going to have to install a rom with root access after I use the dev unlock though and not be able to rely on the Stock rom through aren't I? I can still get a rom that is 100% the stock rom, just with root access though, right?
Would I have to worry about anything or an OTA resetting me to S-ON? Especially if it can fix the exploit that currently allows for S-Off?
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Yes, use HTC Dev to unlock, install a custom recovery, then flash SuperSU for root access. You can then use Firewater to gain S-off. You can stay on the stock ROM, just be warned that you'll get update notifications if you aren't on the latest OTA update. Having said that, you won't be able to install said update unless you reinstall the stock recovery.
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FinZ28 said:
Having said that, you won't be able to install said update unless you reinstall the stock recovery.
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It's only the recovery that matters? Not the S-Off or having Dev unlock or anything else? And only for installing a stock update, not running it after it's been installed?
Isn't that easy to flash and re-flash? Can't I just easily re-flash back to a stock recovery, install the OTA, then flash back?
Oh, and can I lose S-Off in a future update or something this way? Or is it permanent once applied? (Although I know you can hex-exit the bootloader to make it look like it's still S-On, not sure if I want to do that since it sounds extremely risky).
Cyber Akuma said:
It's only the recovery that matters? Not the S-Off or having Dev unlock or anything else? And only for installing a stock update, not running it after it's been installed?
Isn't that easy to flash and re-flash? Can't I just easily re-flash back to a stock recovery, install the OTA, then flash back?
Oh, and can I lose S-Off in a future update or something this way? Or is it permanent once applied? (Although I know you can hex-exit the bootloader to make it look like it's still S-On, not sure if I want to do that since it sounds extremely risky).
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It's that easy, yes, and no, you can't lose S-off by applying an OTA update. Take a look at the thread in the link below for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2720558
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HTC One M8 - I rooted my phone, installed TWRP, S-OFF, and Titanium Backup to get rid of bloatware.
Let's say an update comes through some day from HTC for something.. should I accept it? Or what about if one day we get a newer version of Android update such as 4.5 Lollipop or whatever the next is going to be? Should I accept it?
I will have to re-root/s-off after that or what?
If you are rooted and S-OFF you should never take an OTA update this could brick your phone or damage it. Just for personal knowledge, with my rooted/S-off M8 I accidentally took an OTA update and without reading said yes to the install. My phone restarted but would not load the updater, and then powered itself off. I dodged a bullet on that one. Anyway if you are worried about getting updates the developers here at XDA usually have rooted, S-OFF safe, ROMs that can be flashed in TWRP which give you all the goodies while maintaining your root/s-off status.
captain008 said:
If you are rooted and S-OFF you should never take an OTA update this could brick your phone or damage it. Just for personal knowledge, with my rooted/S-off M8 I accidentally took an OTA update and without reading said yes to the install. My phone restarted but would not load the updater, and then powered itself off. I dodged a bullet on that one. Anyway if you are worried about getting updates the developers here at XDA usually have rooted, S-OFF safe, ROMs that can be flashed in TWRP which give you all the goodies while maintaining your root/s-off status.
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My bootloader's unlocked and I'm S-Off. I took the OTA from the settings option on the Harman/Kardon RUU and never bricked.
OP, your bootloader and S-Off status will be unchanged when taking an OTA. However, I think most people would tell you to just flash the OTA in stock recovery or fastboot.
Since you are s-off there is never a need to take an OTA.
BD619 said:
Since you are s-off there is never a need to take an OTA.
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To add, it should not brick you phone with s-off.
you probably have to reinstall recovery and reflash a rooted rom.
Can anyone help explain this to me? I believe I had took the OTA update(with the Extreme Power Saver) but then I rooted/s-offed with no problem...In this case, was there anything I needed to do? I just assumed everything was working so it was ok.
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Can anyone help explain this to me? I believe I had took the OTA update(with the Extreme Power Saver) but then I rooted/s-offed with no problem...In this case, was there anything I needed to do? I just assumed everything was working so it was ok.
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I did the same. All you need to do now is install a custom recovery, but it's not required. You can still still run Stock Rooted like you are now and take all OTA's if you don't want to run a custom ROM. Just remember: OTAs and RUUs won't change your S-Off status.
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I did the same. All you need to do now is install a custom recovery, but it's not required. You can still still run Stock Rooted like you are now and take all OTA's if you don't want to run a custom ROM. Just remember: OTAs and RUUs won't change your S-Off status.
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Thanks for clarifying! :highfive: TWRP was installed along with the root so I guess I'm set to go!
Thanks. I'm happily running ViperROM 1.6.0 and it works great. You're right. No need to take OTA updates. Uses a little more battery than stock, but no problem. I just worry if I take a trip somewhere because I have no car charger.