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[QUESTION] Root FRF91 without touching boot loader

I know the update was a security fix but am looking for a method to root while remaining as completely stock as humanly possible. I've never rooted before and am still completely stock now.
Best case scenario would be to gain root while leaving everything stock, boot loader, recovery, etc.. maybe even try one of them nice roms for the first time (i hear cyrogen is the best and yes I probably misspelled that)
Thanks
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Same question

There's a couple of tutorials about this in another thread.
If I were you i'd follow one of them and also install a custom recovery. Then play around all you like with rooted roms, stock, custom or otherwise. Once you have a custom recovery you can flash anything. The only down side is that you won't be able to install any OTA roms. But to be honest they appear on XDA in a format you can use on custom recovery way way before you ever receive an OTA notification anyway.
Then if you're sure you only want a stock but rooted rom, then install that and then finally flash the stock recovery back.
However if you're sure you don't want a custom recovery and only want root, you can follow the first half of the same tutorials.
I myself have an unlocked bootloader, but if I didnt, I would root, install a custom recovery and never look back. If anything ever happened to my device i'd just flash the stock recovery and stock firmware and send it back.

Ok, thanks!

That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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viper2g1 said:
That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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No, thats the point. You dont need to unlock to root OR put a custom recovery anymore. See here for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
So you can root, put on a custom recovery, try different roms and then go back to stock, rooted or not, without unlocking the bootloader at all.

I see what your getting at, that's what I was looking for but wasn't sure it was working for FRF91 the last few posts in that thread indicated an unlocked boot loader last time I looked.
I thought the update was to fix the security hole that allowed that
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I have read a lot of comments on the guide of how root the nexus without unlocking the bootloader and searched in other places but couldn't find an answer to my question...
I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
If I can, how do I do it? some people wrote that I need to use Passimg.zip
but I think It's for T-mo version only because at&t's version doesn't have the erf79 (I hope I wrote it right).
anyway I'm really confused. can someone please explain?
thanks

I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
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Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.

RashaMatt said:
Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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they should work in the same way as it did for FRF83 or FRF85B.. you could always try without harm

RashaMatt said:
Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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this link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717870
is a guide of how to downgrade from FRF91 to FRF85 in an unrooted nexus.
that way you can use this tut and root it w/o touchnig the bootloader

EPE76 to frf85B
Hi,
I am back from frf91 ota to EPE76 by applaing passimg.zip. My question is how can I move to frf85B ? I've tried to download universal frf85B, change name to update.zip and go to recovery, but I only see exclemation mark. Please advise. Thank you.

[Q] Install AT&T OTA Update with unlocked bootloader?

So I'm wanting to install the OTA ICS update but it fails and I get the little red exclamation point when I try.. I am assuming this is because my bootloader is unlocked? I've been trying to find a way to install it but the only one I found was one requiring S-OFF which I don't have..
So basically my question is can I install ICS on my rooted unlocked bootloader?
If absolutely necessary I can always lock it, install, then re unlock it but that's such a pain.. AT&T gets on my nerves sometimes..

I am almost positive that you have to do the re-lock process unless somehow they found another way. You should probably read around next time. Most likely, someone has already asked your question.
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I've read quite a few threads but haven't been able to find anything.. and like I said, I did find one but it requires S-OFF and the juniper thing, or whatever to lazy to look up the name right now lol, is not released yet.. and I haven't been able to find another way to get S-OFF..

If you want ics that bad you have to do it like every one else here...there is no reason to whine cause your to lazy to relock the bootloader ..it take all of about three mins for me to relock mine ... and about 20 min to do the whole process...you don't need s off to get ics if your using the vivid or velocity. there's no place for lazy people here so please just do it like ever one else or do with out

I'm fully aware you don't NEED S-OFF to get ICS its the only way I have found to do it with an unlocked bootloader if you even bothered to read my post. And if your going to be rude and unhelpful stay out of my thread, people like you are why forums loose members. I simply asked a question I never said I was lazy and wouldn't do it I was simply looking for an easier alternative.

The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.

Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.

becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.
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ccb101 said:
Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
lmftmf said:
Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.
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and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..

Iomega0318 said:
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Thanks for the help guys. I relocked the bootloader and ran the RUU, then did the OTA. After that I used the noob proof tool thing in the dev forums and installed the WCX recovery and then rooted with the same tool as well. Currently typing on it, and loving it!
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There is another way.
Iomega0318 said:
Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid

Aus_Azn said:
There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Yeah I have been keeping an eye on WhildChild and he just realeased a new version.. So going to give that a try tonight, hope it goes ok, if not I'll be back lol..
daspazz said:
I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid
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Nice! Wish I found that earlier, right now I am probably going to use WhildChilds ROM since he has put so much into it and over clocked the kernel..

How to ROOT Stock ICS

Just got the Bell ICS 4.0.3 OTA and been trying to root for the last hour finally got it and want to share with others. None of the tricks available worked and i tried them all. They all installed superuser but could not update binaries.
I'm not going to bore you on unlocking boot loader etc. or how to get ICS. You can find that here and here.
Once you have ICS and have unlocked your bootloader use "HTC Vivid All-In-One Toolkit V2.1" to flash WCX's Recovery. One you have that boot into recovery and install "Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip", reboot and you now have root. Your might want to get SuperSU from the PlayStore which i think is a better root tool and goes with the ICS theme
Source

Couldn't you just install a rooted rom and be rooted?

bilibox said:
Couldn't you just install a rooted rom and be rooted?
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Yeah of course but if you want to stay with the stock rom (like me with bell for wifi tether) this procedure is better.

Yeah i'm to lazy to S-Off and find a ROM that works. I really just need CMW and root. I freeze all the bloat anyways so this is much better.
I don't think the Raider will see Jelly Bean and if/when maybe i will need to do the "wire trick" but for now stock rooted is fine.

how to root with stock ICS

I know there are stickies but I am still unsure of where to start.
My phone is stock ICS + Sense 3.6
I want to root it so I can install root only apps. Further down the road I want to install CM9 or another rom.
I rooted my Desire with unrewoked last year, which was really easy, but for the Incredible I can't figure out where to start.
I am not sure if the stickies apply to ICS as well?
Help please

esbenm said:
I know there are stickies but I am still unsure of where to start.
My phone is stock ICS + Sense 3.6
I want to root it so I can install root only apps. Further down the road I want to install CM9 or another rom.
I rooted my Desire with unrewoked last year, which was really easy, but for the Incredible I can't figure out where to start.
I am not sure if the stickies apply to ICS as well?
Help please
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You are in uncharted waters my friend. ICS/Sense 3.6 introduced a new HBOOT 2.02.0002. Your only hope is that the Downgrade script that uses 'tacoroot' exploit stills works. Here is the link if you want to give it a shot and then report back on your success or failure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697

The way I rooted mine was firstly unlock the bootloader via HTCdev, then flashed 4ext recovery via fastboot. I was then able to flash Superuser via recovery and finally installed Busybox from the market

mr nick said:
The way I rooted mine was firstly unlock the bootloader via HTCdev, then flashed 4ext recovery via fastboot. I was then able to flash Superuser via recovery and finally installed Busybox from the market
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Thanks for this post. I forgot that this was an option because so many people dismiss this option because they don't want HTC knowing that they unlocked their phone.

Newbie to unlocking bootloader rooting and getting s-off

I have an HTC ONE on verizon.
I have been reading up on unlocking of the bootloader, rooting and achieving s-off, I have a few questions that I am hoping the XDA community can help with.
1.I am on 4.3 jellybean on my ONE will the new tool for HTC devices?
2. I just checked and the new software for the one 4.4 KitKat is out for my version of the one finally! My question is would the new tool still work if I took the 4.4 OTA update or would I loose the ability to use the new tool?
3. Also I know in this process some where that you loose everything on your phone, can someone recommend a method and/or an app to backup all of that stuff so that I do not loose it?

As for backing up your data, I'd suggest Helium. Since you're not rooyed, you will need a companion app on your computer.
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anyone else ideas?

Noobies should not attempt to root or modify

Dont take the kk update and use firewater to unlock and get s-off. Once s-off flash a recovery and use it to backup the phone. Make sure to move the backup to your pc. Then reflash stock recovery and take the ota. Then reflash custom recovery and flash superuser with it. You would then be s-off stock rooted kitkat.

On the other hand, if you don't want S-Off (I doubt you need it), you should OTA-upgrade first to get the newest firmware for your device, then unlock and root. You should still be able to S-Off after that if you want.
If you go this route, you will lose all the contents of the phone. Helium (buggy as it is, it mostly works) a backup of SMS/call log/contacts (if they're not stored in a Google account), and a backup of /sdcard is approximately everything. Also take screenshots of what your desktop looks like, just in case you have a hard time getting that back.

You can take the ota first, it has been confirmed that firewater works on the new ota.

fenstre said:
On the other hand, if you don't want S-Off (I doubt you need it), you should OTA-upgrade first to get the newest firmware for your device, then unlock and root. You should still be able to S-Off after that if you want.
If you go this route, you will lose all the contents of the phone. Helium (buggy as it is, it mostly works) a backup of SMS/call log/contacts (if they're not stored in a Google account), and a backup of /sdcard is approximately everything. Also take screenshots of what your desktop looks like, just in case you have a hard time getting that back.
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I agree. I doubt you will need S-OFF. You really only need it if the phone didn't allow flashing kernels, radios, and images with S-ON. But since you only need root with the HTC One, I'd suggest to stay away from S-OFF. A simple typo could brick your phone if I'm not mistaken.
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cmlusco said:
You can take the ota first, it has been confirmed that firewater works on the new ota.
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Are you sure? I have been reading around these forums and others and haven't heard anything? Not doubting you just don't want to take the OTA update and then loose my chance to do this to my phone?

I just Ulocked, rooted and S-offed my Freshly OTA updated to 4.4.2 One. No problems or issues.
I used :
HTCDEV to unlock
CWM for recovery and root
and FireWater to S-off
Had some hiccups along the way but nothing that came close to bricking it. Just had to change a few settings and permissions.

Asking questions in International GSM htc one will not help with a Verizon device
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cmlusco said:
You can take the ota first, it has been confirmed that firewater works on the new ota.
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Iz3man said:
I just Ulocked, rooted and S-offed my Freshly OTA updated to 4.4.2 One. No problems or issues.
I used :
HTCDEV to unlock
CWM for recovery and root
and FireWater to S-off
Had some hiccups along the way but nothing that came close to bricking it. Just had to change a few settings and permissions.
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I thought HTC Dev no longer worked for the htc one?

JSDragon said:
I thought HTC Dev no longer worked for the htc one?
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Worked great for me yesterday. They emailed me a Unlock.bin file, ran it withbadb and presto unlocked.

Iz3man said:
Worked great for me yesterday. They emailed me a Unlock.bin file, ran it withbadb and presto unlocked.
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what would you recommend for backing up all of your stuff so you can restore it after all of this?

JSDragon said:
what would you recommend for backing up all of your stuff so you can restore it after all of this?
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I use adb backup its so far the best I've used... I didntvuse anything this go around, this one was a warranty replacement and I've been driving with my note 3... I just decided to unlock, root and soff this yesterday as a weeknight project

Iz3man said:
I use adb backup its so far the best I've used... I didntvuse anything this go around, this one was a warranty replacement and I've been driving with my note 3... I just decided to unlock, root and soff this yesterday as a weeknight project
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Mmmmm not sure how to use that for backing up my phone.