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hey everyone,
firstly, i just wanna say that the HTC Incredible S is a solid and terrific device, previously owning an iPhone 4 i might like the HTC better, except for some things...
The battery:
i read some reviews before buying and every reviewer seemed to love the phone and what the battery has to offer. I've owned the phone for a week, and charge it through the USB cable, connected to my PC, and sometimes the wall socket.
But it seems to me that the battery is a bit short.... if i want the battery full i will let it charge overnight, the next day i powered it on, sent a few texts and listened to half a song and the battery has already drained to 70%, coming to this from an iPhone 4 is disgusting.
I've got Auto-Sync and background data working, i like push notifications for Emails and Facebook and i like the weather to update on its own, also HTC sense incase i need to do things remotely, everything else has been set not to sync.
One of my favorite features is Auto Brightness, which is enabled on default, but when i check battery use it says that 70% has gone to the display, 12% cell network and everything else. I have a task killer that kills all processes when i turn the screen off..
Any help??
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
Dropping to ~95% can also be normal though. To preserve the battery the charging circuit should cutout when it reaches 100% charge and let it discharge to 95% before turning on again.
If you do wipe the battery stats make sure you read some guides and do it properly as I've found that more often than not it will have a detrimental affect (from needing to charge before it has fully discharged, or needing to reboot etc).
katu2006 said:
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
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wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
It always drops to 95% when the battery is fully charged. S-ON Incredible S is not allowed to wipe battery status. Should I unlock it?
Yes, I forgot to mention...to wipe the battery stats you need to unlock the Hboot...If you have Hboot 1.16.000, then the only option is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
Unlocking the Hboot is giving you a few benefits, you get to install the CWM recovery and do a full backup of your Rom...Without unlocking the Hbtoot, if your Rom crashes, you can't flash any Rom so you have to send it back to HTC Service ...With the Hboot unlocked you can install custom Roms, you can restore a full backup, you can flash GAPPS etc, wipe battery stats directly from recovery etc etc...
So many benefits...
Now back on how to wipe the stats...The principle behind is simple, if 100%=4.3V and the stats are incorrectly set for 100%=3.9V, then you're never actually recharging the battery to full capacity, which is rubbish...
The way I do it is this - charge to 100%, boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats. Now use the phone until it's shutting down and then charge to 100% again.
Very important is to avoid rebooting the phone after the stats were wiped until the phone is fully recharged. Here is a thread about this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359395
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Jess95 said:
wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
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In my view, recharging while the phone is off makes no difference.
Yes, it's true. With all my Android phones I went through the same thing, first week or so, the battery was rubbish, but after about 2 weeks it improved a lot.
yeah, i've had it for around one week. so i might take your word for it and give it a chance, maybe for 2 weeks. i was thinking of bringing it back to the store but i'll give it a chance.
a part from the short battery at the moment it's a pretty terrific phone and i like it more than the iPhone 4.
Once the battery is conditioned, phone is rooted, custom Rom installed, bloat frozen out or uninstalled, then you can expect your phone battery to last a good full day with regular usage. No need to switch off when charging over night.
Well its incredible enough for me
It lasts a day, which is just right for me haha
Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
Jess95 said:
well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
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Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
Thanx everybody for the replies
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Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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That battery usage sounds awesome! I have mine on Auto Brightness and WiFi turned off but its nothing like yours. My battery usage app says most of it has gone to the brightness, of course that percentage goes down when i start opening apps.
edit: im also using the stock Android 2.3.3 installed from the factory. and disabled my Advanced Task Killer, battery is still the same, but the phone now lags a lot less. so thats a plus for now.
Nonverbose said:
Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
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When i first got the phone i noticed Optus loaded it with rubbish apps i'd never even touch. I disabled auto updates for the bloatware and forced stop for all the ones running. it doesnt look like i can remove them though :\
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Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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Yes, after i charge it for some time i always remove the usb cord. cos its finished charging, right?
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
katu2006 said:
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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ok atm my incredible s is saying 4 hrs 26 min uptime and 1 hr 21 min awake time, 50% left. my signal here is great, the speed of the internet even beats my ADSL 2+ sometimes. should i be thinking of warranty back to store?
Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
shields360 said:
Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
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sounds just about right. my iPhone 4 needed a charge like once every 2 - 4 days, i thought it was awesome. On the Incredible S it says that 62% of the battery usage has gone to display, with very little apps on the list.
The optus apps are just sitting there. Because im on Amaysim i can't exactly use them properly because you need an actual optus account. ive tried opening some of the optus apps, they're mostly just web links and theres a Mobile TV and a Music Store app i believe, but i never at all use them. so they cant be consuming any data, memory or battery or anything, right??
Im still unsure about 'rooting'. Im guessing it's android's version of the jailbreak or a godmode on the device? i might need some help on it, i know how to flash windows mobile and jailbreak iTouch devices easily.
But then again, a lot of people have bought this phone, they cant all be experiencing terrible battery life and i dont think every user would have a root on their device.
I bought it from DickSmith here in Aus, the guy there told me there's a 1 yr back to store warranty. The phone is solid and one of the best phones i've ever had, plus a good price tag on it, its a shame to let a weak battery spoil it.
im thinking of returning it, but i heard somewhere it needs a couple weeks to strengthen the battery, if that's the case then there's no point getting a new one only to wait longer, ill give it a little more time. Plus HTC is releasing 2.3.5 software for the Incredible S soon, and wikiPedia states that it's got "Improved battery efficiency". but ill still keep root in mind for when i get more use to the device.
tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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Yes, about 40min to 1hour display on... sometimes more...I will attach a screenshot once I get throughout the whole battery.
Yes, generally good coverage and mostly 3G...I'm on Optus.
My phone has been rooted before, but now it's on stock Rom as an experiment...
I would strongly advise on rooting, it changes the phone completely.
And remove any animation (live wallpapers) those are killing the battery.
Also found one more thing. If you've got Facebook installed it refreshes every hour, i set mine to never refresh, but you can still receive notifications
But i still don't get why the battery drains soo quickly, even on standby.
edit: found one more thing.
uptime and awake time. when i turn the screen off and awake time should stop counting as the phone is locked and im not using any apps, right?? in some cases i've noticed the awake timer still counts.
example: awake time will read 1:52:39, turn the screen off at this point. go back a couple hours later it's been counting as awake the whole time, and has half battery life it did eventhough i haven't touched the device since locking it and turning off the screen.
in some cases the awake timer will not budge when i lock the phone and turn the screen off and still find the same amount of battery life remaining when i come back.
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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SunHounD said:
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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Thanks for such a quick reply.
I'll tell you the scenario, as quick as i can make it.
had the phone 2 weeks, got it on a 24mnth contract ( i know, sigh)
anyway, updated it to JB (4.1.2?) through LG pc suite, but thought the battery life seemed to be worse, so i downgraded with LG flash tool, to ics.
after a F/reset, i rooted, then F/Reset again, but it seemed sluggish.
the long and short of it is, ive gone up to JB twice, and down to ICS twice, rooted and unrooted twice, disabled a whole HOST of stock bloatware, and am still left with similar results as posted in the pics.
ATM ive a clean ICS and im at a loss as to what to do. ive been reading all the threads about improving battery, culling the bloatware apps etc before i decided to post.
as for bootloader, i will probably do that sometime in the future, when im more knowledgeable on the subject. at present, i dont want to be left with a 2 year contract to a brick
thanks again,
ps: you say better battery stats is better than battery stats plus?...will download now, thanks
Sun
interesting situation. it's strange that sluggishness persisted between factory resets and .dz flashes back to 10x version.
first off, how does the phone behave when you're not using it? is it draining battery bad? is it going into deep sleep? what are the percentages of cpu states (you can check this in better battery stats, as battery stats plus seems to be too clunky for me to read proper info)?
if it's deep sleeping properly, then yeah, the issue is with something sucking up the juice while screen is on. next off, check cpu states - if it's locked at 1.5ghz often, when you have screen on but doing nothing, it's significant info.
what i've noticed with display, you can count up to 3:30 hours of onscreen time with stock rom (this is with very conservative use of wifi and data during this period, and no heavy gaming for example) - that's around 200 minutes of on screen time, meaning you should get around 2 minutes of screen on per 1% of reduction in battery - how far are you from this result?
i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
I would go the other way to be honest. If you do a full factory reset, install no apps, no Google account or anything and still get a similar problem with the battery drain then I would take the phone back for replacement as that is abnormal.
No point running a risk with your warranty when might be a hardware fault.
It's midnight here now so can't really test it till.morning now. When phone is in standby, it seems to hold.its juice ok. I'm sat here now, with nothing switched on except WiFi, screen at 23% brightness , and am just using tapatalk and I'm getting 2-3 mins per 1% screen. Less if I play in the menus. First thing tomorrow, I'll reset the phone again, before dl'ing any apps. Then I'll only download BBS and see how I get on. I'll also.monitor battery loss over night.
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after i wrote the above last night, i decided to watch a movie on my phone in bed.(headphones, dont wanna disturb the missus ) and i managed to watch a movie of 2hrs 10 mins, with 23% battery drain, on stock video player, yet just browsing through the phones menus/ light web surfing, eats the juice like crazy.
left phone off charge over night, and didnt even have a 1% drop in 7 hours (wifi off,sync off, data always off(dont use it)) and phone set to 2g mode
Sun
current set up
Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
SunHounD said:
Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
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you can leave it alnoe during night to check if it deep sleeps properly, right now you're interested in cpu states option in bbs, to see if it uses too much cpu when doing normal tasks such as surfing, reading, watching/listening media etc. your goal is to get over 2 mins per 1% drain (in the end, over 3 hours of onscreen time with no heavy gaming). with those stats, your can say that your phone is draining normally, just that lg reports stupid stuff (f.e., stock roms report screen as using 20% of the battery, while in reality screen is using waaay more, the most actually)
Thanks Flying_Bear, I'll refrain from doing any more resets etc for the rest of the day, see how the readings progress and post on that tomorrow, after overnight analysis.
This piece of one of your previous posts just stuck in my mind:
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i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
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TBH, from everything I've been reading on it, it kind of scared me off the subject, but to see you say it was less complicated than what I've already done, has got me to thinking.
The biggest thing for me at the minute, before considering that, it to rule out faulty hardware. At least if thats the case, i still have warranty intact.
Is the performance increase really that noticeble after flashing custom kernels/roms?
Thanks again for your time,
Sun
no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
I think the only reason I would consider custom roms, is a performance increase.... If it wont give me one, then I see no point in going down that route.
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i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
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Totally agree, its why I refuse to enable data in the first place.
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
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when I took the original screenies, in OP, I didnt really have much in the way of apps on it. I'd not long before done a clean flash, then removed some of the bloatware that came with it.
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you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
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At first yes... hey it was a new toy at the time. Novelty wore off about day 3 though.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
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yeah, it handled a movie quite well, I was quite pleased with this. When i said messing with the menu, I just meant exploring the phone; no custom/3rd party launchers, no messing with Dev stuff.
At the minute now, the only extra apps on my phone are XDA Dev app, tapatalk4, BBS, TB-pro and root uninstaller pro.
Oh, and can I ask.... aside form the ability to "pimp" your phone out, or the extra customization, is there any benefit to flashing custom roms? As it cant be for better performance....
thanks
Sun
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no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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Hi Flying_ Bear, can you pl confirm what combo of rom and kernel is giving you 3 hr 37 min of screen on time and which ones to avoid (ones that gave you 2 hrs)?
Carbon rom 4.2.2 version with iodak v7 had the best onsceen. Id say stock was worst, 2hrs 45mins of onscreen with no gaming and low brightness, with stock kernel
Gentleman, currently im having a big issue with my S3 Mini.
Some weeks ago, the battery started draining in a really short lapse of time. We are talking of aprox. 12 hourse of low usage (one phonecall, no sms, little whatsapp mesagging, some web sufring). By checking Betterbatterystats, i can confirm that almost 11 hours, the phone screen is off (or maybe 10 hours and a half).
I dont know what to do, i turned on airplane mode, and the problem persits. Changed rom 3 times (4.1.2 to 4.4, to 4.1.2 again), wiped data, cache, system, internal memory, etc..
Betterbatterystats screenshots are ATTACHED TO THE POST!!, to see if you cand find a wakelock, alarm, or something that can be interfering the battery life. (btw, i ruled out that theory since i changed rom and wiped everything so many times, but maybe there is something attached indefinetlely to the phone, really dont know).
The battery itself is the only reason in my mind right now, but the phone is only 9 months old (as well as the battery of course).
One thing that calls my attention, is that the charging time takes 2 hours max, maybe 1 hour and a half. Can the battery be damaged with so little lifetime?
Appreciate your help!!!
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Gentleman, currently im having a big issue with my S3 Mini.
Some weeks ago, the battery started draining in a really short lapse of time. We are talking of aprox. 12 hourse of low usage (one phonecall, no sms, little whatsapp mesagging, some web sufring). By checking Betterbatterystats, i can confirm that almost 11 hours, the phone screen is off (or maybe 10 hours and a half).
I dont know what to do, i turned on airplane mode, and the problem persits. Changed rom 3 times (4.1.2 to 4.4, to 4.1.2 again), wiped data, cache, system, internal memory, etc..
Betterbatterystats screenshots are ATTACHED TO THE POST!!, to see if you cand find a wakelock, alarm, or something that can be interfering the battery life. (btw, i ruled out that theory since i changed rom and wiped everything so many times, but maybe there is something attached indefinetlely to the phone, really dont know).
The battery itself is the only reason in my mind right now, but the phone is only 9 months old (as well as the battery of course).
One thing that calls my attention, is that the charging time takes 2 hours max, maybe 1 hour and a half. Can the battery be damaged with so little lifetime?
Appreciate your help!!!
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i can most certainly say that it's the battery, but don't run out buying a new one, yet. Wait 'till someone else confirms it
i had the same problem half a year ago (mine was also 8-9 months old back then). The phone started rebooting and many weird stuff happened I changed the battery and everything was ok. Now it's acting up again and i might change battery again.
davartens said:
Gentleman, currently im having a big issue with my S3 Mini.
Some weeks ago, the battery started draining in a really short lapse of time. We are talking of aprox. 12 hourse of low usage (one phonecall, no sms, little whatsapp mesagging, some web sufring). By checking Betterbatterystats, i can confirm that almost 11 hours, the phone screen is off (or maybe 10 hours and a half).
I dont know what to do, i turned on airplane mode, and the problem persits. Changed rom 3 times (4.1.2 to 4.4, to 4.1.2 again), wiped data, cache, system, internal memory, etc..
Betterbatterystats screenshots are ATTACHED TO THE POST!!, to see if you cand find a wakelock, alarm, or something that can be interfering the battery life. (btw, i ruled out that theory since i changed rom and wiped everything so many times, but maybe there is something attached indefinetlely to the phone, really dont know).
The battery itself is the only reason in my mind right now, but the phone is only 9 months old (as well as the battery of course).
One thing that calls my attention, is that the charging time takes 2 hours max, maybe 1 hour and a half. Can the battery be damaged with so little lifetime?
Appreciate your help!!!
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Turn off wifi and reboot that helps sometimes . On the first Screenshot was your wifi always on. On the last Screenshot was your Android OS on the first place. That was the 1GHz bug.
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Don't have facebook app (only messenger), and without messenger app, the battery keeps draining.
I red on the internet that the 1ghz bug tends to appear on Cyanogenmod. Only had cyanogenmod 11 for some days, turned back again to the stock rom.
Could this bug affect my phone right now? How can i fix it?
If not, im really thinking of buying a new battery, but the risk of another problem affecting the battery usage from the phone keeps turning me back!
Thanks!!
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Don't have facebook app (only messenger), and without messenger app, the battery keeps draining.
I red on the internet that the 1ghz bug tends to appear on Cyanogenmod. Only had cyanogenmod 11 for some days, turned back again to the stock rom.
Could this bug affect my phone right now? How can i fix it?
If not, im really thinking of buying a new battery, but the risk of another problem affecting the battery usage from the phone keeps turning me back!
Thanks!!
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if you didn't do a full wipe before moving back to stock maybe it could cause an issue
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if you didn't do a full wipe before moving back to stock maybe it could cause an issue
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Wiped everything before installing the stock rom.
Look at the picture in the attachment.
The left one is broken (rounder and thicker)
Its only 10 months old.
davartens said:
Don't have facebook app (only messenger), and without messenger app, the battery keeps draining.
I red on the internet that the 1ghz bug tends to appear on Cyanogenmod. Only had cyanogenmod 11 for some days, turned back again to the stock rom.
Could this bug affect my phone right now? How can i fix it?
If not, im really thinking of buying a new battery, but the risk of another problem affecting the battery usage from the phone keeps turning me back!
Thanks!!
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com.facebook.orca?
efaustino84 said:
com.facebook.orca?
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That's related to Facebook messenger app (messenger), and the battery keeped draining, even before installing the app.
Aloha Joe said:
Look at the picture in the attachment.
The left one is broken (rounder and thicker)
Its only 10 months old.
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The battery don't seems to be neither round or thicker, and it don't spins freely.
Have you tried 'telling' the battery how much capacity it has again? (Drain until it automatically shuts down due to flat battery, charge back to 100% while off, switch on, drain again, charge again and use as normal)
Many manufacturers recommend charging when you reach 15-20% during normal use.
Also, have a look at govenors/schedulers if you have a custom ROM installed. Maybe changing combo works better for you, or even changing combo and switching back.
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after i flashed a new rom, i always use this app to calibrate my battery chargement.
Aloha Joe said:
after i flashed a new rom, i always use this app to calibrate my battery chargement.
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It will be better for you, if you read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1460553 and don't use such apps
piskor said:
It will be better for you, if you read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1460553 and don't use such apps
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@davartens
Why don't you post your logs from BBS on app thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 ?
There are people, which can help you faster, than here
I have an issue with battery life as well
.I'm thinking of getting a bigger capacity battery like 2000mah.Can this damage my device?
umaga2012 said:
I have an issue with battery life as well
.I'm thinking of getting a bigger capacity battery like 2000mah.Can this damage my device?
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It won't harm your device. Would you mind sharing from where you're getting a 2000mah battery and if it's the same size as the 1500mah one from Samsung?
I'm currently on a 1700mah battery for the Galaxy Ace II
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koragg97 said:
It won't harm your device. Would you mind sharing from where you're getting a 2000mah battery and if it's the same size as the 1500mah one from Samsung?
I'm currently on a 1700mah battery for the Galaxy Ace II
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Im from Kenya but the battery is available on Ebay. I saw 2450 mah batteries that come with a case so I guess they are bigger. Battery is a huge issue for me. I only get 4hrs maximum on 3g on my current battery and is so fruatrating.How long does the Ace 2 battery last?
umaga2012 said:
Im from Kenya but the battery is available on Ebay. I saw 2450 mah batteries that come with a case so I guess they are bigger. Battery is a huge issue for me. I only get 4hrs maximum on 3g on my current battery and is so fruatrating.How long does the Ace 2 battery last?
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About 10 hours with medium usage and 6 hours heavy usage.
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Is it just for me? After a full charge the screen on time is about 2 hours.. Tried cm11 and other custom roms without luck.. When i bought the phone and wasnt on KitKat the screen could pass 4hours. Huge different!
In battery info the only program that drain the battery is the system it self . any tips?
check your rom and kernel, any overclock setting is active.
check battery usage to find what drain your battery.
Mine have 4h30 - 6h screen on (just wifi, without mobile data)
hxq88 said:
check your rom and kernel, any overclock setting is active.
check battery usage to find what drain your battery.
Mine have 4h30 - 6h screen on (just wifi, without mobile data)
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No overclock set.. Just the system thats drains battery..
@colors Battery life isn't as good as I think it could have been but at completely stock and with nothing on the phone the phones battery is pretty phenomenal, an idle Z1 will stay on for over a week, infact i've seen some phones with 19 days before now quoted within stamina mode.
Just took a pic of one in my workplace and it's saying just over 19 days, that's not too bad for a phone which is always on and capable of receiving apps via wifi (see picture attached)
I know that 19 days is excessive and no one here is ever going to get anywhere near that or even a week, unless you don't use the phone, the problem most of us face is the apps that we use and their footprint on our phones, affecting battery life and performance.
Take a good look at your apps and what you use and see what you could do without or what could be affecting battery.
A clean install will usually give you great battery if theres nothing on the phone to slow it down, eliminating apps one by one might seem mundane but it's key to great battery life, after a while you'll learn whats bad and whats acceptable.
Using the likes of CM11 could cause even greater battery drain as it's all custom stuff, not to mention that some things within the system aren't working as good as they could be, there is still a lot of work before things are perfect, double tap to wake for example is a feature which could cause massive drain.
Always perform a full wipe and don't restore anything via recovery, leave it as a bare rom until you can verify the ROM you are using is without issue.
Hope this helps
I own a Samsung galaxy S advance for the past two years now.
Still on Gingerbread 2.3.6. India unrooted. Past 3 weeks I was visiting USA.
I was using a AT&T Go-phone there.
What happened is my phone always switched off while I was using it. Just like THAT! I was thinking because I was using WhatsApp on this phone, I thought maybe cause I have a different number for WA and so WA was continuously trying to identify the number whenever I was on-line.
Specifically, the battery used to drain from 75 or 63 or 47 % right down to 4 %!!!. And when plugged in, in off state, the battery used to get charged to full within seconds (the indicator showed full 100%). After I switched it on, the phone again switched off. This happened quiet a few times and so when I returned to India, I uninstalled WA reset my phone, formatted the USB storage and used a few apps to recalibrate and determine the "health" of the battery. Also I noted the time for it to switch off. I was around 2 and a Half hours which means actually the battery drain and switching off randomly continued even after factory reset.
Now here are the questions
1)Has the battery gone beyond its life or is there a problem with the software or is there some bug that is killing the battery? Just a small note here, the battery is kinda swollen
2)Also, what should I do, buy a new battery or install new software (custom ROM or something else) depending upon the ROOT cause from the above question.
Please help.
Thanks indeed.
God Bless
~amol
amolpravar said:
I own a Samsung galaxy S advance for the past two years now.
Still on Gingerbread 2.3.6. India unrooted. Past 3 weeks I was visiting USA.
I was using a AT&T Go-phone there.
What happened is my phone always switched off while I was using it. Just like THAT! I was thinking because I was using WhatsApp on this phone, I thought maybe cause I have a different number for WA and so WA was continuously trying to identify the number whenever I was on-line.
Specifically, the battery used to drain from 75 or 63 or 47 % right down to 4 %!!!. And when plugged in, in off state, the battery used to get charged to full within seconds (the indicator showed full 100%). After I switched it on, the phone again switched off. This happened quiet a few times and so when I returned to India, I uninstalled WA reset my phone, formatted the USB storage and used a few apps to recalibrate and determine the "health" of the battery. Also I noted the time for it to switch off. I was around 2 and a Half hours which means actually the battery drain and switching off randomly continued even after factory reset.
Now here are the questions
1)Has the battery gone beyond its life or is there a problem with the software or is there some bug that is killing the battery? Just a small note here, the battery is kinda swollen
2)Also, what should I do, buy a new battery or install new software (custom ROM or something else) depending upon the ROOT cause from the above question.
Please help.
Thanks indeed.
God Bless
~amol
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Seems like a battery problem. I read that it has about 500 charge cycle. And 2 yearsh has more than 500 days...
New observation
shut_down said:
Seems like a battery problem. I read that it has about 500 charge cycle. And 2 yearsh has more than 500 days...
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Thanks for the prompt reply,
Yesterday, I charged the battery (phone) and I didnt install WhatsApp. I left the phone in flight mode and just let it out for "idling".
For a good 7 hrs it was as it is and then I installed WA and bang! switched off.
Do you reckon that, the application uses a lot of juice so much so that the remaining battery dies off instantly? (now that the battery is in bad "health")
~amol
amolpravar said:
Thanks for the prompt reply,
Yesterday, I charged the battery (phone) and I didnt install WhatsApp. I left the phone in flight mode and just let it out for "idling".
For a good 7 hrs it was as it is and then I installed WA and bang! switched off.
Do you reckon that, the application uses a lot of juice so much so that the remaining battery dies off instantly? (now that the battery is in bad "health")
~amol
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Indicator probably shows non correct value. Or it shows, but battery is so weak now that little consumption of energy drains it that much...
Thanks
shut_down said:
Indicator probably shows non correct value. Or it shows, but battery is so weak now that little consumption of energy drains it that much...
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Thanks shut_down . May be I'll just a buy a new battery and see if that works better for me.
Otherwise it's a new phone for me
Thanks indeed
~amol