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Hi everyone. My battery life is really sucks. I bought my item two days ago. It is new. And I upgrade my version and baseband , kernel and build version like below :
N70000XXLB2
2.6.35.7-N7000XXLC1-CL1003701 [email protected]#2
GINGERBREAD.XXLC1
I think that this version xxlc1 is last version but I wonder how is my kernel version ?
Battery life is very bad.
Moreover Charging lasts so long. 3 -4 hours sometimes.
PLEASE Help me! please
depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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when i see some kind of usage experiences, I am so jealous. How they use this much ? HOW. I only use wifi and radio.
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
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Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
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My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
to get battery life you either
a) dont use your phone or
b) get information to use your phone more wisely
So..
a) download a battery monitor.. there are a bunch recommended..
b) read the other 200 threads on battery life and dont start another one. Each and every question has been asked and answered ad nauseum
while you are figuring out root, and task killers, here are a few easy tips to help..particularly when you are putting the phone down for a while
apps>task manager>active apps> CLOSE ALL
apps>task manager> RAM> CLEAR MEMORY
settings>applications>running services> review and shut down apps/games that may be running in background (and that are not critical)
Again.... RESEARCH the forum.. the answers are already here. and you should read and post in existing threads
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My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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You could also have a defective battery.
On my iPhone 4, my first of 4 that were faulty, battery life depleted in less than 12 hours of STANDBY only on wifi, nothing syncing. Only being on. Battery life was so bad.
It's not uncommon to get a dud battery sometimes.
Try doing a complete restore, stock EVERYTHING, don't push anything (except email, cal, and contacts, you know, the basics) and see if you're having the same results. If on a fresh, stock, install you're having the same issues, then you've got a defective unit and/or battery.
Hope I've helped.
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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There are quite decent custom roms for the Note. I have tried many gingerbread versions (Chracks, rocketrom, cassies etc) currently on chrack's v18 small (LC1) with speedmod latest kernel.
I have not faced performance issues on this. But each user is different so u r the boss.
Best give the custom kernels a try for now. If u find the battery life better then ur problem is solved. The advantage of custom rom is that so much useless bloatware in the stock is removed for better space mgt & performance.
have provided some tips in the following link, feel free to go thru.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600691
eediz said:
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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dude, you are ridiculing some of the well known devs who have made custom ROMS for all to appreciate and use. IF there was and is a problem on a particular custom ROM, it is or might be cause indirectly on the user itself, on what apps he/she insatalled on his phone. Surely you cannot generalize all custom ROMS have problems do you? if all have problems, the devs have some new revisions to fix those bugs and in no time at all your Note would be in tip-top shape again.
If as what you say, Custom Roms have problems.... then why the heck most people I know have used them and have big wide grin on their face to show off what they have and even posting a copy of their latest ROM pictures here... not to mentioned in YouTube as well.
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
go read the threads on battery performance.. loading a new ROM will not fix problems if you do not know what you are doing.
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ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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Hi there.
I had the same issues but only after the update done on ICS.
I have over 140 different application and nearly all of them have been purchased.
What happens is that, when you are not using your phone it should go to "deep sleep". This allows your phone not to run any application and merely use any battery. Your problem probably come from somewhere in your setting an automatic update. That drains a lot....
I downloaded different application hoping that it would work out such as Juice Defender, watch dog and many others. After lots of research, I found out that it is not good for your phone to have an auto killer app or even an application that modifies the functions of other applications.
So I downloaded battery spy and cpu spy on "google play" and followed the instructions.
I needed a deeper analytic application "Kernel" and this was THE application that allowed my phone to go from 6-8 hour to 28 hours.
"Better battery stats", it's not free but was really worth the spending.
Google play chronological download
1) watch dog
2) battery spy
3) cpu spy
4) better battery stats
Good luck
I keep switching my cellphone off while not using, and same goes for wifi. Using it as a secondary phone as well. It lasts only 4-6 hours.. :S I keep closing background apps, and kill app once im done with it..
Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
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ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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If you like stock samsung looks try CleaNote 3.10 , very good n battery life , I get around one day backup with heavy usage and 2 days plus with moderate usage .
If like pure google , then try cm9 , very stable and quite good on battery back up .
And if you dont use 3g or 3.5 g or any such networks then select GSM only or use 2g networks only ( Settings -> under wireless and connectivity , More -> Mobile Networks )
Also keep your display brightness to minimum , control the brightness manually instead of auto brightness .
Turn off auto sync ( big advantage over battery ) .
Scan for running apps and cached apps and force stop the ones which you dont use .
Use titanium back up and freeze some of the bloatwares ( stock samsung apps ) or uninstall them , like readers hub , mydiary , they are **** .
And dont use task killers , they drain your battery . they may clear rom but some apps restart automatically and that needs more juice than running those apps . Hope all these suggestions help . From my experience with this phone
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Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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Thanks for that, i will install it. By the way i got the "battery widget" installed, which has gained popularity on the market.
Also im only using 9% of brightness of my phone.
I'm using a rooted stock 4.0.3 and I'm finding battery life its pretty good - better than unrooted GB was in fact. Simply freezing bloatware via titanium and limiting sync on some (not all) apps and services makes a gigantic difference. Design your phone around your own needs and you'll end up with an amazing device that you'll fall in love with all over again.
Sent from my gnote as always
Hello guys, sorry for my bad english, but I'm not American. Well, my question is:
I bought from a guy a Galaxy S I900b, Brazilian model with digital TV. Came with stock 2.3. As I had already read enough before, upgraded to JWB Saurom with semaphore kernel, which I think is the default for this rom. Well, the phone had very poor battery life, evn on idle. Then upgraded to 10.2 CM. I saw that had some wakelocks, and with BBS and the help here, I used the Scan Media Root and my problems are gone in iddle. So, my phone goes into deep sleep and today during my sleep, only lost 3% battery, 3% battery drain on idle during about 5-6 hours it very good to me. But during use, it ends up very fast, and with GSAM and standard monitor of the android, I saw that after the screen, the Android system was what had higher %% battery. So what could it be ? The battery life is ok, checked on info, and its condition is 'good'. I use to Greenify, and close almost every game\app, so running is just grenify and ram manager pro.
So the prob just could be a app or the 'android system' ? Or even hardware ?
I dont have much time now, so any info or screenshot you want, I can provide later
Thanks
What about your connections? Do you have 3G/wifi enabled at all times?
calibrate....maybe useless, but u can try....but somehow, try bigger mAh battery, maybe.....n maybe .... it will help.
juz charge it with screen turn on till it full, n waste it to 0% till it shut down, turn it on n charge it with screen on till it full again, u ll be fine
if problem occur again, keep an eye for sneaky app that run at background (email...exchange etc) n juz delete some sys app that u dont use using titanium.
if it still occur again, wait for arc reactor battery....
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What about your connections? Do you have 3G/wifi enabled at all times?
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So buddy I've disabled 3G, just 2G, I barely make a call, just wifi. But dont matter what, if is just passing by the menus or using opera mini, using it drain battery a lot,
compacity said:
calibrate....maybe useless, but u can try....but somehow, try bigger mAh battery, maybe.....n maybe .... it will help.
juz charge it with screen turn on till it full, n waste it to 0% till it shut down, turn it on n charge it with screen on till it full again, u ll be fine
if problem occur again, keep an eye for sneaky app that run at background (email...exchange etc) n juz delete some sys app that u dont use using titanium.
if it still occur again, wait for arc reactor battery....
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I've deleted the batterystats.bin and used until 0%, so charged while off, but nothing :C
It's true that the battery needs to 'learn' ? Like, a few charges and discharges and could estabilize ?
I'll take a few screenshots right now
Callibration of you battery eg: Wipe battery stats is onluy helpfull when you get weird battery stats.
If you are on any CyanogenMod ROM you have to get used to the higher ammount of battery use by the phone. The application Greenify can help a lot by hibernating the huge battery suckers like facebook and google maps.
Some tips:
- use 2G instead of 3G
- Turn WIFI off when you're outside the house or leaving for some time
- Turn GPS/Bluetooth on only when you're about to use it
- Dont use taskkillers (they are used to free up ram but killing apps makes android restarts them and this consumes extra juice)
- Put brightness on Auto
- Use a dark theme and background/lockscreenwallpaper
- Dont recharge your phone when below 5% this can damage the battery
- A new battery needs to "Get used to" the life of being a battery xD After a few recharging cycles it will work like normal
Here some screenshots, if need more, just ask
Note: Was with 14%batt, rebooted and drops to 11-10%
mrjraider said:
Callibration of you battery eg: Wipe battery stats is onluy helpfull when you get weird battery stats.
If you are on any CyanogenMod ROM you have to get used to the higher ammount of battery use by the phone. The application Greenify can help a lot by hibernating the huge battery suckers like facebook and google maps.
Some tips:
- use 2G instead of 3G
- Turn WIFI off when you're outside the house or leaving for some time
- Turn GPS/Bluetooth on only when you're about to use it
- Dont use taskkillers (they are used to free up ram but killing apps makes android restarts them and this consumes extra juice)
- Put brightness on Auto
- Use a dark theme and background/lockscreenwallpaper
- Dont recharge your phone when below 5% this can damage the battery
- A new battery needs to "Get used to" the life of being a battery xD After a few recharging cycles it will work like normal
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i am using greenify on almost everything.
used to use ram manager, but now i've disable it.
brightness is on low
I really dunno what 2 do ... almost 1 week with it and this insane drain, everyone says that plays or browser on wifi and get almost 10 hours... my dream this happen to me lol
Remember that this is just on use, on idle it use virtually nothing, like I said, almost 3% on sleep, but is just I start use with app or browser and its gone
Screens are from a too short period of useage. Use it from fully charged, and make some new screenies This can help futher
Well i got problems with my battery too so im planning to buy a new one because this one cant even handle 3-4 hours when im doing something like playing games,or listening music...Just buy new battery with more mAh and dont get bother with this :laugh:
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Screens are from a too short period of useage. Use it from fully charged, and make some new screenies This can help futher
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ok buddy, will charge and use a little
LyQQ said:
Well i got problems with my battery too so im planning to buy a new one because this one cant even handle 3-4 hours when im doing something like playing games,or listening music...Just buy new battery with more mAh and dont get bother with this :laugh:
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but in aps, show good battery state :/
think that I cant trust in it ... and will have to buy a new one
if calibrate doesnt work, hardware faulty, change ur battery mate.
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About 2 hours later that I fully charged, here are some ss
Just used whatsapp and opera in this time
I was thinking in change my kernel, currently I'm using semaphore 3.0 with CM10.2, is Latrop or Mackay better in battery life ?
I think its my last shot ... I'll provide a new battery next week, but i've heard some people with batt probs that even with new batt the problem persists :crying:
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About 2 hours later that I fully charged, here are some ss
Just used whatsapp and opera in this time
I was thinking in change my kernel, currently I'm using semaphore 3.0 with CM10.2, is Latrop or Mackay better in battery life ?
I think its my last shot ... I'll provide a new battery next week, but i've heard some people with batt probs that even with new batt the problem persists :crying:
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It looks like wifi and 3G have been kept on for most/all of the time. Turning those off while you're not using them may significantly increase battery life.
Also, related to kernels, personally I've found Mackay to be a bit better in terms of battery.
Also it looks like your screen's pretty bright if 61% of the battery usage is because of it. So if you don't need it so bright turning the brightness down may help.
Start by doing those, and see how your battery life fares first- if not much changes, then it may help getting a bettery battery/changing rom even.
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Soryuu said:
It looks like wifi and 3G have been kept on for most/all of the time. Turning those off while you're not using them may significantly increase battery life.
Also, related to kernels, personally I've found Mackay to be a bit better in terms of battery.
Also it looks like your screen's pretty bright if 61% of the battery usage is because of it. So if you don't need it so bright turning the brightness down may help.
Start by doing those, and see how your battery life fares first- if not much changes, then it may help getting a bettery battery/changing rom even.
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So, like i said, in this 2 hours after charge, i've used opera mini with wifi, I dont use 3g. Right now the battery is less than 10%... it's strange since have people telling that can use almost 5 hours wifi and the battery is > 50%
And the brightness is at lowest bright :\
The problem could be some corrupted file ? I have the options:
- format EVERYTHING, and dont use titanium backup, since somthing can be corrupted.
- change my kernel to Mackay
- change my room back to SAUROM 2.3.6 adn semaphore kernel
I'm very sad cuz I have a very old Nokia E5 that can be on with wifi almost or more than 10hours ... and this phone can barely hold 5hour
What u suggest me to do ?
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So, like i said, in this 2 hours after charge, i've used opera mini with wifi, I dont use 3g. Right now the battery is less than 10%... it's strange since have people telling that can use almost 5 hours wifi and the battery is > 50%
And the brightness is at lowest bright :\
The problem could be some corrupted file ? I have the options:
- format EVERYTHING, and dont use titanium backup, since somthing can be corrupted.
- change my kernel to Mackay
- change my room back to SAUROM 2.3.6 adn semaphore kernel
I'm very sad cuz I have a very old Nokia E5 that can be on with wifi almost or more than 10hours ... and this phone can barely hold 5hour
What u suggest me to do ?
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How long have you been using the rom? Roms take time to calibrate the battery and this is through charge/discharge cycles.
Alternatively, go into Performance settings and change the profile to powersave/conservative (it differs from rom to rom). Lock the min CPU frequency to 200mHz- apparently this helps.
Again, this would change depending on your kernel.
And if you have a three year old battery like mine, best not to expect miracles...
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Soryuu said:
How long have you been using the rom? Roms take time to calibrate the battery and this is through charge/discharge cycles.
Alternatively, go into Performance settings and change the profile to powersave/conservative (it differs from rom to rom). Lock the min CPU frequency to 200mHz- apparently this helps.
Again, this would change depending on your kernel.
And if you have a three year old battery like mine, best not to expect miracles...
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Using bout 2 days ... but i didnt knew about ' calibrate '. Good to know that
Now i've formated everything and will put a stock 2.3 and see in a couple of days the perfomance ... if gets better, I put the saurom 2.3.6 and be with it, cuz 2.3.6 on brazilian model allow to use digital tv, and 2.3 everyone says is economic.
I'll get this updated if my situation changes, if not, will buy a new battery
Thanks for all your help
Note: How long your batt last ? With high\low usage
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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SunHounD said:
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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Thanks for such a quick reply.
I'll tell you the scenario, as quick as i can make it.
had the phone 2 weeks, got it on a 24mnth contract ( i know, sigh)
anyway, updated it to JB (4.1.2?) through LG pc suite, but thought the battery life seemed to be worse, so i downgraded with LG flash tool, to ics.
after a F/reset, i rooted, then F/Reset again, but it seemed sluggish.
the long and short of it is, ive gone up to JB twice, and down to ICS twice, rooted and unrooted twice, disabled a whole HOST of stock bloatware, and am still left with similar results as posted in the pics.
ATM ive a clean ICS and im at a loss as to what to do. ive been reading all the threads about improving battery, culling the bloatware apps etc before i decided to post.
as for bootloader, i will probably do that sometime in the future, when im more knowledgeable on the subject. at present, i dont want to be left with a 2 year contract to a brick
thanks again,
ps: you say better battery stats is better than battery stats plus?...will download now, thanks
Sun
interesting situation. it's strange that sluggishness persisted between factory resets and .dz flashes back to 10x version.
first off, how does the phone behave when you're not using it? is it draining battery bad? is it going into deep sleep? what are the percentages of cpu states (you can check this in better battery stats, as battery stats plus seems to be too clunky for me to read proper info)?
if it's deep sleeping properly, then yeah, the issue is with something sucking up the juice while screen is on. next off, check cpu states - if it's locked at 1.5ghz often, when you have screen on but doing nothing, it's significant info.
what i've noticed with display, you can count up to 3:30 hours of onscreen time with stock rom (this is with very conservative use of wifi and data during this period, and no heavy gaming for example) - that's around 200 minutes of on screen time, meaning you should get around 2 minutes of screen on per 1% of reduction in battery - how far are you from this result?
i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
I would go the other way to be honest. If you do a full factory reset, install no apps, no Google account or anything and still get a similar problem with the battery drain then I would take the phone back for replacement as that is abnormal.
No point running a risk with your warranty when might be a hardware fault.
It's midnight here now so can't really test it till.morning now. When phone is in standby, it seems to hold.its juice ok. I'm sat here now, with nothing switched on except WiFi, screen at 23% brightness , and am just using tapatalk and I'm getting 2-3 mins per 1% screen. Less if I play in the menus. First thing tomorrow, I'll reset the phone again, before dl'ing any apps. Then I'll only download BBS and see how I get on. I'll also.monitor battery loss over night.
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after i wrote the above last night, i decided to watch a movie on my phone in bed.(headphones, dont wanna disturb the missus ) and i managed to watch a movie of 2hrs 10 mins, with 23% battery drain, on stock video player, yet just browsing through the phones menus/ light web surfing, eats the juice like crazy.
left phone off charge over night, and didnt even have a 1% drop in 7 hours (wifi off,sync off, data always off(dont use it)) and phone set to 2g mode
Sun
current set up
Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
SunHounD said:
Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
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you can leave it alnoe during night to check if it deep sleeps properly, right now you're interested in cpu states option in bbs, to see if it uses too much cpu when doing normal tasks such as surfing, reading, watching/listening media etc. your goal is to get over 2 mins per 1% drain (in the end, over 3 hours of onscreen time with no heavy gaming). with those stats, your can say that your phone is draining normally, just that lg reports stupid stuff (f.e., stock roms report screen as using 20% of the battery, while in reality screen is using waaay more, the most actually)
Thanks Flying_Bear, I'll refrain from doing any more resets etc for the rest of the day, see how the readings progress and post on that tomorrow, after overnight analysis.
This piece of one of your previous posts just stuck in my mind:
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i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
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TBH, from everything I've been reading on it, it kind of scared me off the subject, but to see you say it was less complicated than what I've already done, has got me to thinking.
The biggest thing for me at the minute, before considering that, it to rule out faulty hardware. At least if thats the case, i still have warranty intact.
Is the performance increase really that noticeble after flashing custom kernels/roms?
Thanks again for your time,
Sun
no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
I think the only reason I would consider custom roms, is a performance increase.... If it wont give me one, then I see no point in going down that route.
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i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
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Totally agree, its why I refuse to enable data in the first place.
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
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when I took the original screenies, in OP, I didnt really have much in the way of apps on it. I'd not long before done a clean flash, then removed some of the bloatware that came with it.
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you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
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At first yes... hey it was a new toy at the time. Novelty wore off about day 3 though.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
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yeah, it handled a movie quite well, I was quite pleased with this. When i said messing with the menu, I just meant exploring the phone; no custom/3rd party launchers, no messing with Dev stuff.
At the minute now, the only extra apps on my phone are XDA Dev app, tapatalk4, BBS, TB-pro and root uninstaller pro.
Oh, and can I ask.... aside form the ability to "pimp" your phone out, or the extra customization, is there any benefit to flashing custom roms? As it cant be for better performance....
thanks
Sun
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no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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Hi Flying_ Bear, can you pl confirm what combo of rom and kernel is giving you 3 hr 37 min of screen on time and which ones to avoid (ones that gave you 2 hrs)?
Carbon rom 4.2.2 version with iodak v7 had the best onsceen. Id say stock was worst, 2hrs 45mins of onscreen with no gaming and low brightness, with stock kernel
Hello!
I know that there were a lot said about battery problems in 4.1.2 android, but i still haven't found any solution on my problem. My Note was bought with GB 2.3.6 and had an awesome battery, but after i updated it to JB 4.1.2 (via Kies), suddenly battery life is catastrophic. I have everything off (bluetooth, wi-fi, gps), my screen brightness is on minimum, i use my phone on GSM band (not 4g), i also disabled some of unused apps, etc...everything said was also my practice on previous version 2.3.6 and phone battery lasts up to 4 days, but now, it drains off in 17hrs and I barely use my phone!
If I check battery stats, it shows that screen is the major consumer of battery and it seems like it is on all the time, although the phone screen is physically off most of the time. It means something causing my phone being awake all the time instead of being off.
Any ideas how to fix this??
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Hello!
I know that there were a lot said about battery problems in 4.1.2 android, but i still haven't found any solution on my problem. My Note was bought with GB 2.3.6 and had an awesome battery, but after i updated it to JB 4.1.2 (via Kies), suddenly battery life is catastrophic. I have everything off (bluetooth, wi-fi, gps), my screen brightness is on minimum, i use my phone on GSM band (not 4g), i also disabled some of unused apps, etc...everything said was also my practice on previous version 2.3.6 and phone battery lasts up to 4 days, but now, it drains off in 17hrs and I barely use my phone!
If I check battery stats, it shows that screen is the major consumer of battery and it seems like it is on all the time, although the phone screen is physically off most of the time. It means something causing my phone being awake all the time instead of being off.
Any ideas how to fix this??
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4 days? really? think that is unheard of. Either how, it should last longer than 17 hours.
Try going back to factory settings, perhaps theres something running thats divided by zero :silly: .
If you feel adventurous you can also choose to root & try a custom rom. Though thats your responsibility and choice entirely.
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4 days? really? think that is unheard of. Either how, it should last longer than 17 hours.
Try going back to factory settings, perhaps theres something running thats divided by zero :silly: .
If you feel adventurous you can also choose to root & try a custom rom. Though thats your responsibility and choice entirely.
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Yup 4 days, not kiddin...4 days of average use.
I forgot to mention that i already did the factory reset and i also wipe the cache partition in recovery menu... I disabled practically everything, and i use things when i need, nothing is set on auto, sync or anything. Last night I didn't touch the phone for about 9 hrs and battery consumption was around 1% which is ok, but it's draining everytime i turn on the screen like 5% in 10mins. BBS shows that well known GTALK_ASYNC_CONN as a battery eater. Is it possible to kill this annoying thing on un-rooted phone???
Hey everyone!
I got my Note5 near launch day. I love everything about it, except the battery life.
Basically, I am not satisfied. I barely make it through the day with moderate usage. The crux of my problem is idle/standby battery drain.
This has been a problem for me ever since I got my Note5 and even for some of my old phones (M8 on Lollipop).
The Issue: I'm fine with how the battery drains when I'm actively using it. I'm not going to go into much detail about that, but I'm satisfied with how fast I seem to be killing the battery while using it. The part I'm not satisfied with is how much the battery drains when I'm not using the phone. Obviously, this must be an issue with wakelocks. When you look at the screenshot below for Android OS, it is always wake for more than 2.5+ hours in a 15 hour usage period. Now, I'm not sure if that's normal anymore. I don't remember how it was on KK, nor do I know if that's what everyone else is getting.
The Issues Cont: So yeah I have massive idle drain. (I estimated that I get about 1.5-1.6% battery drain per hour. I charged my phone up to 100% and let it sit idle overnight for a span of about 8 hours or so. It went from 100 to 91 during that time). What this means for me is that, I can use my phone less and less because while it sits in my phone, it dies quickly! On GSam, it shows that my battery discharged 38% while the screen was off! Again, I don't know if this is 'normal'. What is everyone else getting?
What I tried: I tried factory resetting. Nope. I tried reflashing the firmware, factory resetting. Nope. I booted into safe mode and left it idle overnight. Still dropped to about 92% or so, IIRC. I actually had the GS6 Edge before the Note5, but I returned it because of the ****ty battery life. Then I inserted my S-pen backward and broke the sensor in the Note5, so I got a replacement. For each instance, I always got crappy battery life. So I am doubting that this is a hardware issue. I tried minimizing the apps installed so minimize wakelocks, but it didn't seem to help.
What I want: Honestly, I just want to be able to use my phone and have it not drain so much while it's in my pocket or on the desk. I want to be able to go into a lecture for a few hours and come out with maybe 1% drain, not 3% or 4%. And I want to do this without rooting. I don't want to trip Knox, and I'm tired of rooting and spending hours tinkering with my phone to get decent battery life.
Attachments: I uploaded screenshots of almost everything I thought would be pertinent. Please have a look and hopefully we can compare results and figure out whether this is normal for a Note5 or not!
All screen shots here: http://imgur.com/a/xDZcN
Thanks everyone!
I reckom its something you are downloading is doing it. Add one app at a time and see what it does.
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Yes there is something keeping your device awake. Rogue app. First guess would be that Facebook messenger app. Look in settings for your running applications, try to limit those to ones you absolutely need using package disabler. If you don't know what's OK to disable, read through the debloating guidelines thread.
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dannyyang524 said:
Hey everyone!
I got my Note5 near launch day. I love everything about it, except the battery life.
Basically, I am not satisfied. I barely make it through the day with moderate usage. The crux of my problem is idle/standby battery drain.
This has been a problem for me ever since I got my Note5 and even for some of my old phones (M8 on Lollipop).
The Issue: I'm fine with how the battery drains when I'm actively using it. I'm not going to go into much detail about that, but I'm satisfied with how fast I seem to be killing the battery while using it. The part I'm not satisfied with is how much the battery drains when I'm not using the phone. Obviously, this must be an issue with wakelocks. When you look at the screenshot below for Android OS, it is always wake for more than 2.5+ hours in a 15 hour usage period. Now, I'm not sure if that's normal anymore. I don't remember how it was on KK, nor do I know if that's what everyone else is getting.
The Issues Cont: So yeah I have massive idle drain. (I estimated that I get about 1.5-1.6% battery drain per hour. I charged my phone up to 100% and let it sit idle overnight for a span of about 8 hours or so. It went from 100 to 91 during that time). What this means for me is that, I can use my phone less and less because while it sits in my phone, it dies quickly! On GSam, it shows that my battery discharged 38% while the screen was off! Again, I don't know if this is 'normal'. What is everyone else getting?
What I tried: I tried factory resetting. Nope. I tried reflashing the firmware, factory resetting. Nope. I booted into safe mode and left it idle overnight. Still dropped to about 92% or so, IIRC. I actually had the GS6 Edge before the Note5, but I returned it because of the ****ty battery life. Then I inserted my S-pen backward and broke the sensor in the Note5, so I got a replacement. For each instance, I always got crappy battery life. So I am doubting that this is a hardware issue. I tried minimizing the apps installed so minimize wakelocks, but it didn't seem to help.
What I want: Honestly, I just want to be able to use my phone and have it not drain so much while it's in my pocket or on the desk. I want to be able to go into a lecture for a few hours and come out with maybe 1% drain, not 3% or 4%. And I want to do this without rooting. I don't want to trip Knox, and I'm tired of rooting and spending hours tinkering with my phone to get decent battery life.
Attachments: I uploaded screenshots of almost everything I thought would be pertinent. Please have a look and hopefully we can compare results and figure out whether this is normal for a Note5 or not!
All screen shots here: http://imgur.com/a/xDZcN
Thanks everyone!
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Never let Facebook or Games run in the background and MOST IMPORTANTLY disable location services completely. Keep it on a toggle and turn it off until you need it. Always keep it off or Google will ping your location once every minute. It literally halves battery life.
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Never let Facebook or Games run in the background and MOST IMPORTANTLY disable location services completely. Keep it on a toggle and turn it off until you need it. Always keep it off or Google will ping your location once every minute. It literally halves battery life.
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I don't have the Official Facebook app installed.. And I almost always keep location services off, but the battery still drains as it does..
Use the smart manager app to stop certain apps from running in background and restrict background data for apps that don't need it in the mobile data settings.
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My battery is amazing and I can say this as I am a battery guru and have spent countless hours trying to squeeze all the juice out of my devices, which includes eliminating wake locks. If you had root you could figure it out, without root you'll have to start un installing apps 1 at a time until it get's better. Also check your exchange accounts.
I assure you something is wrong as my battery life is the best of any phone I've had.
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I don't have the Official Facebook app installed.. And I almost always keep location services off, but the battery still drains as it does..
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This probably won't be helpful at all as it is a complete shot in the dark, but perhaps you have an app that is trying to get your location continually since you have it off? Maybe try leaving location on. I never turn it off and I've been getting very good battery life on my T-mobile Note 5.
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This probably won't be helpful at all as it is a complete shot in the dark, but perhaps you have an app that is trying to get your location continually since you have it off? Maybe try leaving location on. I never turn it off and I've been getting very good battery life on my T-mobile Note 5.
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I also tried leaving location on as well. I can't really see an improvement as well. I actually only recently kept location off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/help/wifi-cellular-data-time-draining-battery-t3203251