Widget Menu Not Refreshing - Moto X Q&A

There have beth two apps I've installed lately who's widgets have not shown up in the widget menu immediately after installation. With the Chronus clock it took a while before it showed up as a selectable option. It showed up on the lock screen widget menu, but not the home screen one. The other was a photo frame widget. Has anyone else had this happen or know of a fix? It's super annoying.
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GreenMunky said:
There have beth two apps I've installed lately who's widgets have not shown up in the widget menu immediately after installation. With the Chronus clock it took a while before it showed up as a selectable option. It showed up on the lock screen widget menu, but not the home screen one. The other was a photo frame widget. Has anyone else had this happen or know of a fix? It's super annoying.
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I have the same issues. a phone restart will fix it. but that seems to be a bit ridiculous.

jiro09 said:
I have the same issues. a phone restart will fix it. but that seems to be a bit ridiculous.
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I agree. I installed the GEL today but the issue is still present. Does anyone know of a fix for this?
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GreenMunky said:
I agree. I installed the GEL today but the issue is still present. Does anyone know of a fix for this?
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darn it...i was hoping a launcher change would fix it. was it doing this on 4.2.2? Ive only had the Moto X under 4.4...

jiro09 said:
darn it...i was hoping a launcher change would fix it. was it doing this on 4.2.2? Ive only had the Moto X under 4.4...
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Don't know. I accepted the Kit Kat OTA less than 24 hours after activating my Moto X. Wasn't until after that I tried adding new widgets. They will eventually appear without a reboot but I have not determined the amount of time it takes or if it's some kind of event or action that makes the Widget menu refresh. Really irritated about this.
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jiro09 said:
darn it...i was hoping a launcher change would fix it. was it doing this on 4.2.2? Ive only had the Moto X under 4.4...
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Okay... I may have found a possible fix. I enabled ART in Developer options => Select runtime. After letting the process of app optimization to finish, it seems that my widget menu now refreshes immediately, as it should. At least it worked immediately when I downloaded the Yahoo! Weather app... maybe just a fluke but I'll take it. After the first reboot I immediately opened every app I use on a daily basis and everything opened snappily and I got no force closes. I even opened Pandora (I had heard a lot of people having compatibility issues with ART) and it started up just fine and played a song all the way through without a skip, hiccup or error. Only time and experimentation will tell if this is truly a fix to the problem, so I'd really like to hear if it works for you too. Cheers!

GreenMunky said:
Okay... I may have found a possible fix. I enabled ART in Developer options => Select runtime. After letting the process of app optimization to finish, it seems that my widget menu now refreshes immediately, as it should. At least it worked immediately when I downloaded the Yahoo! Weather app... maybe just a fluke but I'll take it. After the first reboot I immediately opened every app I use on a daily basis and everything opened snappily and I got no force closes. I even opened Pandora (I had heard a lot of people having compatibility issues with ART) and it started up just fine and played a song all the way through without a skip, hiccup or error. Only time and experimentation will tell if this is truly a fix to the problem, so I'd really like to hear if it works for you too. Cheers!
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doing it now... will update after a bit of testing

GreenMunky said:
Okay... I may have found a possible fix. I enabled ART in Developer options => Select runtime. After letting the process of app optimization to finish, it seems that my widget menu now refreshes immediately, as it should. At least it worked immediately when I downloaded the Yahoo! Weather app... maybe just a fluke but I'll take it. After the first reboot I immediately opened every app I use on a daily basis and everything opened snappily and I got no force closes. I even opened Pandora (I had heard a lot of people having compatibility issues with ART) and it started up just fine and played a song all the way through without a skip, hiccup or error. Only time and experimentation will tell if this is truly a fix to the problem, so I'd really like to hear if it works for you too. Cheers!
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It seems to be working for me...DL'd google keep and widget showed up immediately. things feel snappier as well. I know ART is a bit experimnental so ill have to keep an eye out. Its interesting that the original problem occurred under Dalvik. This type of error would not have surprised me if ART was originally enabled. thanks!!

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Open Home full feature 1.5 build

Hey guys,
Is anyone brave enough to test the full feature 1.5 build of Open Home Full? We know we can always find some brave ones here
It requires that you are running android 1.5 on your phone (aka Cupcake). This build has full supports of 1.5 widgets and also a good amount of stability and performance improvements.
We had not done a lot of testing on this build; also this build will expire in a month (5/30). If you want to test the latest and greatest, feel free to install and try this build.
*Remember safe mode is hold menu button when powering on*, if you see anything wrong, just enter safe mode and then uninstall it.
Do NOT install unless you are running android 1.5
Download the apk at
http://groups.google.com/group/openhome/files
I assume since I'm running the dudes build and it supports widgets it may work. I can always remove if necessary . This doesnt remove open home right? just a different version?
EDIT: it replaces the existing open home
Hmm, I was impressed with the demo of OpenHome when I downloaded it a couple days ago. I'll take a look.
downloading it now. I have just flashed the holiday cupcake build so I assume it'll work with this. I'll let you know.
So far so good. I am glad to have openhome back again in 1.5
I have added all widgets, and they all work as expected. Are some of these the 1.5 "stock" widgets? I assume so because i see 2 music widgets listed, one looks like your own and the other a stock one.
I'll let you know how it goes after some proper usage. great work so far though. thankyou.
oh, p.s .. Will this be a free upgrade for those who had previosly purchased open home full ?
Works well enough. I like it.
Normally use full edition but will keep this until it is updated.
Suggestion: How about that calendar widget from Haykuro's build so those with dude's builds can use it?
Using it. Works well so far. I'm an OH Full user too, will I have any problems going back to the market app when it gets updated/released?
Ps. Is there any way to add support for Jeff Sharky's weather widgets? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509729
Weather widgets ok here. Problem with battery percentage widget though
Mi|enko said:
Using it. Works well so far. I'm an OH Full user too, will I have any problems going back to the market app when it gets updated/released?
Ps. Is there any way to add support for Jeff Sharky's weather widgets? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509729
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It's already supported. That weather widget is working fine for me.
Hey guys i like the changes the menus are a little more intuitive now! Shame it doesn't seem to maintain your icons from older version, but weirdly kept my fonts theme etc - not sure if that qualigfies as a bug or not really
One problem i have found though is it seems to scrap folder icons the second you open bettercut again, not a huge problem but ....
BUGS!
I have almost 200 apps to SD so it's convenient to have my favorite "few" on the desktop. After I installed the new apk file... everything was GONE! Huge inconvenience! Then when I pull up the app menu I can watch them appear one after another like the app is doing a search for the installed apps. I also tried Picture Frame. It seems like it pulls up the Camera app, then the gallery. I selected my picture. Cropped it. Saved it. Then it went back to "select picture" again. Strange. Also... AnyCut Open Home Edition doesn't work. Definite bugs.
Other then that I love it. Thanks! Is this going to be in an update and when will it be available in Market? I purchased the full version months ago.
faithnolonger said:
Hey guys i like the changes the menus are a little more intuitive now! Shame it doesn't seem to maintain your icons from older version, but weirdly kept my fonts theme etc - not sure if that qualigfies as a bug or not really
One problem i have found though is it seems to scrap folder icons the second you open bettercut again, not a huge problem but ....
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I don't think it has anything to do with bettercut because I don't have it installed and it still goes back to the default folder icons randomly, sometimes it comes back sometimes it doesn't.
Binary100100 said:
I have almost 200 apps to SD so it's convenient to have my favorite "few" on the desktop. After I installed the new apk file... everything was GONE! Huge inconvenience! Then when I pull up the app menu I can watch them appear one after another like the app is doing a search for the installed apps. I also tried Picture Frame. It seems like it pulls up the Camera app, then the gallery. I selected my picture. Cropped it. Saved it. Then it went back to "select picture" again. Strange. Also... AnyCut Open Home Edition doesn't work. Definite bugs.
Other then that I love it. Thanks! Is this going to be in an update and when will it be available in Market? I purchased the full version months ago.
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Yea that kind of pissed me off when I realized it took all my stuff off the screen and the dock. It works fine besides these few issues though.
betterandroid said:
Hey guys,
Is anyone brave enough to test the full feature 1.5 build of Open Home Full? We know we can always find some brave ones here
It requires that you are running android 1.5 on your phone (aka Cupcake). This build has full supports of 1.5 widgets and also a good amount of stability and performance improvements.
We had not done a lot of testing on this build; also this build will expire in a month (5/30). If you want to test the latest and greatest, feel free to install and try this build.
*Remember safe mode is hold menu button when powering on*, if you see anything wrong, just enter safe mode and then uninstall it.
Do NOT install unless you are running android 1.5
Download the apk at
http://groups.google.com/group/openhome/files
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Hey quick question, is there any way to add a 3d effect on swipe? Like when you swipe to left or right screen, screen shrinks and rotates as a 3d cube. That will be awesome dude, you can name the app something different and charge for it again because I know damn well people will pay for it. I definitely will.
BSDADON said:
It's already supported. That weather widget is working fine for me.
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The reguar widget works for me, but not his. It isn't even displayed as an option.
Trying it out on my new Magic
But it's not 'open' in any sense...
Really dissapointed in losing all of my icons on all 7 screens. Glad that "real" widget support was actually added in. Almost went back to dxTop because of this. Please make the full version available on the market as an upgrade to the old full version. It would be nice to make it detect the old settigns and import them in.
Hey guys.. uhh i accidentally set my home to default instead of open home.. any help would be appreciated!
Dcandvolcom1 said:
Hey guys.. uhh i accidentally set my home to default instead of open home.. any help would be appreciated!
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Opps. You have to wipe now.
Just kidding. You deal with it the same way as if you would set the defaults as any other app. Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Home>Clear defaults.
Been using this app for a few days now.I havent ran into any problems with it pretty smooth.Only down side was losing my icons.But no biggie.

Finding reasons for reboots

Hi,
Im just curious how to track down the reason for reboots with stock ROM and stock kernel, not rooted. I had one random reboot yesterday (when watching trailers in the IMDB app) after almost a week I own N7. I know that one reboot in a week is nothing, but its my new toy and Id like to know how to track down the reason for that in case it happens again.
I found out some threads about this and generally it says I should use LogCat - but I dont know how to use it. So I please ask for help! For now, I started Stability Test (CPU+GPU) and wait ...
Happy New Year, Y'all !!!
EDIT: Ghardashyan a bit lower mentioned hes been having reboots when watching youtube videos. Anybody else having this kind of behavior? Also, I had my reboot when watching trailers in the IMDB app - its playing via youtube, right?
The ONLY reboot I have ever seen, is when the default lockscreen widget gets updated by the marketplace. It's guaranteed to reboot on 4.2. It does it every time on both my Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7.
You will only ever see it, if you remove the default android 4.2 lockscreen time widget and put something else there from the marketplace, and only when that widget gets a marketplace file update.
Perhaps you are seeing this? Do you have auto-update apps enabled???
CrazyPeter said:
The ONLY reboot I have ever seen, is when the default lockscreen widget gets updated by the marketplace. It's guaranteed to reboot on 4.2. It does it every time on both my Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7.
You will only ever see it, if you remove the default android 4.2 lockscreen time widget and put something else there from the marketplace, and only when that widget gets a marketplace file update.
Perhaps you are seeing this? Do you have auto-update apps enabled???
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I dont have auto-update enabled. I added another time/weather widget to the lockscreen but I dont think it got updated yesterday ... I will remove it and hope it wont reboot again. I sure think it was some app as the stability test goes for 2 hours without problem.
michalurban said:
I dont have auto-update enabled. I added another time/weather widget to the lockscreen but I dont think it got updated yesterday ... I will remove it and hope it wont reboot again. I sure think it was some app as the stability test goes for 2 hours without problem.
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Its to do with location based services, HD Widgets is a major culprit and stated they were talking to Google to try and resolve the issue, it is also as stated before mainly because of the new lockscreen widgets, which HD Widgets also provide, so the stock widget could also cause the same issue?
Mine have pretty much stopped with the last update of HD Widgets, but it does still occur.
Wilks3y said:
Its to do with location based services, HD Widgets is a major culprit and stated they were talking to Google to try and resolve the issue, it is also as stated before mainly because of the new lockscreen widgets, which HD Widgets also provide, so the stock widget could also cause the same issue?
Mine have pretty much stopped with the last update of HD Widgets, but it does still occur.
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Just for your information, I dont use HD Widgets
Since you're on stock rom and kernel, I think the best way would be to reset your device and keep track of what applications are installed, one at a time.
My guess is that one of the installed apps are causing it..
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ajhn said:
Since you're on stock rom and kernel, I think the best way would be to reset your device and keep track of what applications are installed, one at a time.
My guess is that one of the installed apps are causing it..
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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I know that, but as it was one reboot only in less than a week, it could take months to track the app down ... :laugh: Im about to restart the device myself and then use alogrec to continually record stuff.
EDIT: Alogrec is not recording a thing, so I rooted my phone. In case of restart, I believe it should be enough to save last_kmsg. Am I right?
michalurban said:
Hi,
Im just curious how to track down the reason for reboots with stock ROM and stock kernel, not rooted. I had one random reboot yesterday (when watching trailers in the IMDB app) after almost a week I own N7. I know that one reboot in a week is nothing, but its my new toy and Id like to know how to track down the reason for that in case it happens again.
I found out some threads about this and generally it says I should use LogCat - but I dont know how to use it. So I please ask for help! For now, I started Stability Test (CPU+GPU) and wait ...
Happy New Year, Y'all !!!
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I get some occasional reboot when watching Youtube videos... Leaved the stability test for 2 hours, no reboots.
ghardashyan said:
I get some occasional reboot when watching Youtube videos... Leaved the stability test for 2 hours, no reboots.
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I had my reboot when watching IMDB trailers - which also are on youtube, am I right??
BTW Is your problem repeatable? Eg. is there any time watching youtube that quarantees reboot? Id like to check that ... And are you using the youtube app?
REALLY?
Check out the thread 4.2 Random reboots instead of making new threads.
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Correlation does not equal causation and it seems some are eager to go barking up the wrong tree. As has been stated here, as well as confirmed by Google, it is a bug at the OS level. It has nothing to do, per say, with HD Widgets, YouTube, or any individual app. It affects all products running 4.2 and 4.2.1.
Until Google fixes the issue, there are only two guaranteed workarounds- disable location services or downgrade to 4.1.2.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
najaboy said:
Correlation does not equal causation and it seems some are eager to go barking up the wrong tree. As has been stated here, as well as confirmed by Google, it is a bug at the OS level. It has nothing to do, per say, with HD Widgets, YouTube, or any individual app. It affects all products running 4.2 and 4.2.1.
Until Google fixes the issue, there are only two guaranteed workarounds- disable location services or downgrade to 4.1.2.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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Thanks, never heard of that. How do I disable Location Services? Should I just turn off the Location access menu? Or is it a service under running services? In that case, which one?
michalurban said:
Thanks, never heard of that. How do I disable Location Services? Should I just turn off the Location access menu? Or is it a service under running services? In that case, which one?
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Settings › Location. Bear in mind that the tradeoff is that, among other things, Google Now will no longer be functional.
For me, the reboots haven't been annoying enough to warrant disabling it on mine just yet.
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najaboy said:
Settings › Location. Bear in mind that the tradeoff is that, among other things, Google Now will no longer be functional.
For me, the reboots haven't been annoying enough to warrant disabling it on mine just yet.
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Great, thanks. :good: I disabled that for now and will turn it on only when I need navigation. I dont use Google Now anyway.
BTW, when Google finds a solution for this, should I expect a full system upgrade?
Just experienced my first random reboot while streaming a flash video on Firefox Beta..
Random reboots are annoying me as well with my stock unrooted n7
Mostly though its during wifi/network activity not just in one app, have had reboots while in youtube, ebay, chrome etc. I have also seen it reboot while in standby
All started from 4.2
Would be interested to know if these reboots are reported back to google?
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My Nexus 7 has 38 days uptime, only thing "special" I've done is I've disabled lockscreen widgets:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wordpress.chislonchow.deviceadminkeyguard
Stock 4.2.1, rooted.

[Q] Widgets/apps probs

Hi guys, I really hope I can get some help here, can't find anything about the problems I am encountering.
I am using this phone for about 4 weeks now, and it's working fine, except for some problems with widgets. I have problems with 3 apps/widgets now; they all worked fine on my old phone, a HTC Sensation XE (rooted, with different ROM's and Android versions). They all have strange behaviour. At first I thought I had some settings set wrong in the apps themselves, but I tried everything I could think of and now I have to conclude that the problems start with the phone itself.
I am encountering problems with the following apps:
aCalendar+: widget, but also opened app get in some kind of update loop; sync icon starts spinning, stops and immediately starts again, and on and on. It does sync properly though in the meantime.
Plume: Most of the time the widget does not respond to manually syncing. Only after I open the app and sync manually (which works fine), and go back to the widget, I can finally sync using the widget.
Transparent clock & weather: Most of the time, the clock does not keep track of the time, it just hangs. Only when I tap the widget, or refresh the weather, it syncs with the internal clock, like it should. Sometimes though, the clock does keep track for a short time, but in the end it will hang again.
I tried out a lot of different things with the P7 energy- and network apps settings. Also I upgraded to firmware version 126, but it all doesn't make any difference. It's all really annoying, especially because I never had those issues on my old phone.
Anybody got a clue?
flupke02 said:
I am encountering problems with the following apps:
aCalendar+: widget, but also opened app get in some kind of update loop; sync icon starts spinning, stops and immediately starts again, and on and on. It does sync properly though in the meantime.
Plume: Most of the time the widget does not respond to manually syncing. Only after I open the app and sync manually (which works fine), and go back to the widget, I can finally sync using the widget.
Transparent clock & weather: Most of the time, the clock does not keep track of the time, it just hangs. Only when I tap the widget, or refresh the weather, it syncs with the internal clock, like it should. Sometimes though, the clock does keep track for a short time, but in the end it will hang again.
I tried out a lot of different things with the P7 energy- and network apps settings. Also I upgraded to firmware version 126, but it all doesn't make any difference. It's all really annoying, especially because I never had those issues on my old phone.
Anybody got a clue?
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Can you provide the play store links of this apps?
I would try and test it.
This apps are enabled in protected apps?
flupke02 said:
Transparent clock & weather: Most of the time, the clock does not keep track of the time, it just hangs. Only when I tap the widget, or refresh the weather, it syncs with the internal clock, like it should. Sometimes though, the clock does keep track for a short time, but in the end it will hang again.
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I have test this app.
I think you mean this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.droid27.transparentclockweather
I was able to reproduce your problem and solve it.
Please set this app as "protected app". You didn't have set it, so the app would be closed then the screen get off.
You can set this: Settings -> Protected Apps -> Check the checkbox of this app.
Then your widget is working.
Then an app don't set up as protected, the app would be closed on screen off.
DJ BlackEagle said:
I have test this app.
I think you mean this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.droid27.transparentclockweather
I was able to reproduce your problem and solve it.
Please set this app as "protected app". You didn't have set it, so the app would be closed then the screen get off.
You can set this: Settings -> Protected Apps -> Check the checkbox of this app.
Then your widget is working.
Then an app don't set up as protected, the app would be closed on screen off.
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Thanks for your help, I already tried that out before. It do not think it made a difference though. Anyway, the time freezing issue also happened when using the phone for some time, I mean without screen off time, so it should not make any difference. But in the meantime I updated the app, and that seems to work.
The links for the other apps:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.withouthat.acalendarplus&hl=nl
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.levelup.touiteur&hl=nl
I contacted the developer of Acalendar+, and as far as I understood there should be an update coming in the near future that should resolve the problem. I installed another calendar app in the meantime, which just works flawlessly, so maybe I just stick to that one...
I hope Plume gets a working update too, so I can enjoy me phone without being annoyed
Thanks again for your effort!
flupke02 said:
Thanks for your help, I already tried that out before. It do not think it made a difference though. Anyway, the time freezing issue also happened when using the phone for some time, I mean without screen off time, so it should not make any difference. But in the meantime I updated the app, and that seems to work.
The links for the other apps:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.withouthat.acalendarplus&hl=nl
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.levelup.touiteur&hl=nl
I contacted the developer of Acalendar+, and as far as I understood there should be an update coming in the near future that should resolve the problem. I installed another calendar app in the meantime, which just works flawlessly, so maybe I just stick to that one...
I hope Plume gets a working update too, so I can enjoy me phone without being annoyed
Thanks again for your effort!
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Oops, I just found out you were right about the protected apps thing. I have not had the issue with the screen active since the last update, but indeed, after screen-off time, the issue is back again. So I guess I should indeed use the protected apps setting.
I don't understand why this is necessary though. I mean, the internal system clock just carries on ticking in standby mode, so why wouldn't the app just sync with that automatically when I activate the screen? Or would it be so that the app has always been active in standby mode on my old phone, and is it only because I now have this protected apps mode on this new phone that I am getting aware of this? If you understand what I mean, this is quite hard for me in English...
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Oops, I just found out you were right about the protected apps thing. I have not had the issue with the screen active since the last update, but indeed, after screen-off time, the issue is back again. So I guess I should indeed use the protected apps setting.
I don't understand why this is necessary though. I mean, the internal system clock just carries on ticking in standby mode, so why wouldn't the app just sync with that automatically when I activate the screen? Or would it be so that the app has always been active in standby mode on my old phone, and is it only because I now have this protected apps mode on this new phone that I am getting aware of this? If you understand what I mean, this is quite hard for me in English...
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I've experienced similar issues. Like you I use aCalendar+ which is very good. However I don't use any of the widgets that come with this app. I prefer Smooth Calendar instead. So far, no problems at all. And as for the clocks, it seems a bit hit and miss. I was using DIGI Clock Plus but had no end of trouble with it. It just won't update on wake up. Protected or otherwise. I've given up on it. The clock widgets from HD Widgets work just fine. There's an amazing array to choose from. Maybe it's an Android issue, maybe Huawei. Who knows? I think the best solution is to find apps and widgets that work and discard those that don't.

UI stuttering caused by accessibility permissions

The problem
Hi, I've been experiencing significant interface stuttering whenever an application has been granted accessibility permissions.
Video of the problem
Here is a video demonstrating the issue, read below for technical information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFVKCx5zVmQ
Facts about the problem
Ok so here's what I know so far:
It doesn't matter which service you grant access to, it will lag the same. I've tried LMT, Swipe Navigation, LastPass, TalkBack, and a few more I can't even remember at the moment.
It doesn't matter what ROM or Kernel you are on. I've tried Euphoria with LK and Hydra, rooted stock with stock kernel and LK, and Benzo with whatever the default Benzo kernel is. Doesn't make a single difference.
It does not only affect Relay for Reddit comment collapsing. It also affect Google Newsstand's mini/big card transition, news source transitions, Google Now transitions, basically anywhere there is an animation in the OS I can notice the stuttering.
Anyone else experience this? Any ideas? It is driving me crazy.
I'm not experiencing that
I've used custom roms/kernels almost all of them in the development forum lol
I wonder if maybe it's a particular accessibility itself? I feel like since its needing to be authorized in accessibility that it might be conflicting with something else, who knows?
People usually try booting the phone into safe mode and seeing if maybes its a third party app?
Thats my 2 cents! Hopefully it helps
It has nothing to do with a specific accesibility from what I can feel, stuttering occurs regardless of the app.
I have full wiped several times to test and can't find a solution.
Does anyone else experience this or have any ideas?
Can anybody duplicate this?
Should I RMA?
ggmask said:
Can anybody duplicate this?
Should I RMA?
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adjust your governor/scheduler. me, i like using ondemand/deadline.
simms22 said:
adjust your governor/scheduler. me, i like using ondemand/deadline.
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I've done this when using LK/Hydra, but I am not running stock kernel. None of the adjustments made any noticeable difference unfortunately
I really hate to bump this but the video only has 16 views and I'd love someone else to confirm or deny the same behavior when granting an app accessibility permissions.
If this is common behavior I won't RMA, but if no one else can recreate this I'm going to.
Oh, another thing I noticed: you don't have to test it in an app like Relay for Reddit, you can also do it in the Chrome browser on a site that has a lot of information. What I've noticed is that, when accessibility is granted to any app, visiting XDA forums becomes almost unusable. It takes FOREVER to scroll and when I can scroll it is extremely choppy. Disable the accessibility permission? Completely solves the problem.
You are NOT crazy. I have been searching, seeing if anyone else had this problem. I am using a completely stock Nexus 6 (not rooted), and because of the screen size I have been tinkering with apps to help with one handed use (like pie controls, handy soft keys, etc). They also require accessibility to be enabled. Whenever I install them, I notice (about once every 6-7 times) that when I open my app drawer on Nova launcher, it will half freeze, half stutter. Most of the time it's fine, but once every few times it happens. I haven't paid too much higher attention to whether jt causes stuttering in other apps, but it drives me nuts and so I uninstall the app and go back to stretching my thumb to use the stock nav keys. Wish this would get fixed. Kind of unacceptable for a Nexus - that kind of stuttering is why I don't like using Samsung devices.
Here is the Swipe Navigation developer saying it is definitely a thing in Lollipop with accessibility settings. (screenshot from Play Store comments on Swipe Navigation app). I wish someone could figure this out - I guess we have to wait for Google to do that?
I am using PieControl Pro and I do believe it makes the animations in the Play story stutter when I open a page and use the back button to go back to the app overview. The Play store was never completely smooth no matter what, but when I disable accessibility for PieControl Pro, it becomes a little better. So yeah, accessibility does seem to affect UI performance. I'm on stock Android 5.1 with Franco Kernel.
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You are NOT crazy. I have been searching, seeing if anyone else had this problem. I am using a completely stock Nexus 6 (not rooted), and because of the screen size I have been tinkering with apps to help with one handed use (like pie controls, handy soft keys, etc). They also require accessibility to be enabled. Whenever I install them, I notice (about once every 6-7 times) that when I open my app drawer on Nova launcher, it will half freeze, half stutter. Most of the time it's fine, but once every few times it happens. I haven't paid too much higher attention to whether jt causes stuttering in other apps, but it drives me nuts and so I uninstall the app and go back to stretching my thumb to use the stock nav keys. Wish this would get fixed. Kind of unacceptable for a Nexus - that kind of stuttering is why I don't like using Samsung devices.
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Thank you! I was losing my mind tryingbto figure this out so I opened a support ticket with Google play store and the person who handled my case was able to reproduce it and has made a note of it (whether this means there's an official bug report or not I don't know). He also said this issue cannot be used to RMA, since it wouldn't do anything anyway.
Unless someone can confirm that they DO NOT have this issue.
Im using swipe navigation and I'm noticing stutter as well. Wonder why this happens. Took me a while to figure it out.
Would you mind pointing me to the Google page where you reported this? I would like to star it as well, and follow their updates.
As a follow up, today I decided to tinker around and install pie again. Since the Nova app drawer animation is what I always notice stuttering first, I decided to just turn Nova animations off. Then, I went into Android settings, developer options, and reduced the three animation settings to 0.5x. I may just be seeing what I want to see, but the UI hasn't seemed to stutter with Pie enabled in accessibility (yet). Going to try this for a day or two.
I've gotten the same issues with Lastpass.
Lastpass even states on their site that it's a lollipop issue.
https://lastpass.com/support.php?cmd=showfaq&id=8166
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Thank you! I was losing my mind tryingbto figure this out so I opened a support ticket with Google play store and the person who handled my case was able to reproduce it and has made a note of it (whether this means there's an official bug report or not I don't know). He also said this issue cannot be used to RMA, since it wouldn't do anything anyway.
Unless someone can confirm that they DO NOT have this issue.
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Sorry if this counts as bringing up an old thread, although it's not THAT old
Anyway, I've come here just to corroborate all your findings and confirm that I am also experiencing this ugly bug. A few days ago I installed Greenify which, among other things, asked to enable Accessibility features for it. Thinking nothing of it I did as requested. Next day I start noticing some UI lagginess and choppiness, which was especially noticeable to me in Relay for Reddit since I use it a lot (too much for my own good in fact) and I distinctly remember it had very smooth scrolling between comments just a few days ago. In the mean time, I completely forget I've granted Greenify accessibility control so I went on a mission trying to fix this inexplainable, sudden UI choppiness, by trying to flash a different kernel, trying different governors, dirty flashing my ROM, trying all the other tweaks, and finally doing a factory reset and flashing the stock ROM all over again (luckly I did make a nandroid). Nothing helped. I was at my wits end when I tried searching the app's subreddit for anyone experiencing the same issue and found a comments saying accessibility features were to blame. I felt stupid for not researching it before. However, this bug is very insidious as it just creeps up on you, with no reason. I also don't know how can accessibility features affect UI smoothness this way.
Yes, hopefully will be fixed in M maybe? I haven't checked around to see if those who have installed M preview have checked to see if the bug has been fixed there. Fingers crossed.....
Not fixed in M. Everyone should go star the issue so it gets fixed!
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=2092
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Not fixed in M. Everyone should go star the issue so it gets fixed!
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=2092
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Still isnt fixed ) But my lag rather appears when tapping on any app icon, then it highlights, then go lag, then opening animation starts.
Post this over on reddit and see if you can bring a bit more attention to the issue.

Problems with XT1058 LP Update

Hi guys this are the problems that i noticed after the update. This thread is specially for XT1058 but they could be in any builds too
why we dont have the full material launcher ?
sometimes my moto voice starts up without/with any command even in pocket.
moto voice's resposiveness is less than KK one. ----> this happens because of custom launch phrase.
and my phone does not go into sleep mode even after passing of time set in settings .
does anyone have this problems ??
David schuster told that there were some bugs in final release and they're planning updates for them.
rjcrystal199 said:
Hi guys this are the problems that i noticed after the update. This thread is specially for XT1058 but they could be in any builds too
why we dont have the full material launcher ?
sometimes my moto voice starts up without any command even in phone mode.
moto voice's resposiveness is less than KK one. but more functionality is added (i Call it Jarvis )
and my phone does not go into sleep mode even after passing of time set in settings .
does anyone have this problems ??
David schuster told that there were some bugs in final release and they're planning updates for them.
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Not sure what you mean about the launcher. The Moto X has always has a slightly modified launcher. You can download the Google Launcher from the store.
I did have the same issue with the phone not going to sleep. I rebooted and have not had the problem since, though I can't say for sure yet that it won't happen again.
I'll tell you what problems I faced.
- 1st fresh install, complete sbf: after 24 hs of using it without problems, the phone freezed, rebooted and after the bootanimation bum! black screen. It was on because if I held power button I can see the power off banner. After many reboots getting the same results, I decided to factory reset. And just in case, I reflashed Boot and System.
- 2nd fresh install: I'm getting the static noise bug on moto voice, WiFi toggle dissapears sometimes...
I don't want to keep playing this with a joke rom. I wish I stayed on KK.
CM here I go...
I took an OTA and no problem since. Has it ever occurred to you that you cause the problems you described by not following the general practice? Why sbf? Why not OTA?
Kustaa said:
I'll tell you what problems I faced.
- 1st fresh install, complete sbf: after 24 hs of using it without problems, the phone freezed, rebooted and after the bootanimation bum! black screen. It was on because if I held power button I can see the power off banner. After many reboots getting the same results, I decided to factory reset. And just in case, I reflashed Boot and System.
- 2nd fresh install: I'm getting the static noise bug on moto voice, WiFi toggle dissapears sometimes...
I don't want to keep playing this with a joke rom. I wish I stayed on KK.
CM here I go...
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duchski said:
I took an OTA and no problem since. Has it ever occurred to you that you cause the problems you described by not following the general practice? Why sbf? Why not OTA?
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Well I own a Movistar 1058 so I flashed retail Brazil for 1058 (it works for every 1058 latam).
I also flashed manually (mfastboot). I think it's 'cleaner' than RSD (and by the way I've never used RSD). Besides I have always used mfastboot to flash stock KK after using custom roms and never had a problem. So I discard the method to be the culprit. Aaand, I've seen others reporting same issues too.
Hello,
I've updated to 5.1 recently and made Factory Reset.
Problems:
1) Google GMail app does not support Exchange Account - for some reason Lolipop has separate application for exchange accounts -_- which is worthless because GMail should support it by default, thats very annoying for me, i dont want to use extra apps.
2) Sometimes BACK button doesnt work when i finish scrolling through Facebook app and i am forced to minimize the app and then restore it again.
3) Sometimes, especially after i unplug the phone from the charger, my screen doent want to go to sleep, it just literally sucks my battery life, only thing that helps this bug is a restart
Those are 3 major things that annoy me after update.
Is it only me with the Exchange problem or everybody else got this thing messed up ? I was really hoping to setup exchange on my Gmail app after the update....
Tsiqara said:
Hello,
I've updated to 5.1 recently and made Factory Reset.
Problems:
1) Google GMail app does not support Exchange Account - for some reason Lolipop has separate application for exchange accounts -_- which is worthless because GMail should support it by default, thats very annoying for me, i dont want to use extra apps.
2) Sometimes BACK button doesnt work when i finish scrolling through Facebook app and i am forced to minimize the app and then restore it again.
3) Sometimes, especially after i unplug the phone from the charger, my screen doent want to go to sleep, it just literally sucks my battery life, only thing that helps this bug is a restart
Those are 3 major things that annoy me after update.
Is it only me with the Exchange problem or everybody else got this thing messed up ? I was really hoping to setup exchange on my Gmail app after the update....
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I don't have any of those issues. Do you have the latest version of Gmail from the Play Store?
DarkWolffe said:
I don't have any of those issues. Do you have the latest version of Gmail from the Play Store?
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Yes, all apps and google services updated
How about the DEVICE PROTECTION feature? I can't seem to find it.
Tsiqara said:
Yes, all apps and google services updated
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Huh, that's really weird. So if you go to Gmail, open the drawer and tap the small arrow on the righthand side next to your Gmail account and tap Add account, you can't set a new one up?
I will never buy an ATT device again. i dont understand why they dont allow changing network mode manually, they even have blocked *#*#4636#*#* i've already rooted it. does anyone know which root app allows me to change network type.
rjcrystal199 said:
I will never buy an ATT device again. i dont understand why they dont allow changing network mode manually, they even have blocked *#*#4636#*#* i've already rooted it. does anyone know which root app allows me to change network type.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapbase.LTEswitcher
No root, one Google search, less than two minutes.
Whoa this is exactly what i was looking for i tried others but they did not work so i asked
If you're not into touchless control then get CM. You can't go wrong there.. latest updates and highly stable in my case.
Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
bushako said:
If you're not into touchless control then get CM. You can't go wrong there.. latest updates and highly stable in my case.
Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
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Many of us can't flash new ROMs because of locked bootloaders.
Google TTS distortion Moto X AT&T 5.1
I updated to 5.1 on XT1058 AT&T variant of Moto X 1st gen on 7/7/15.
When I have Moto read aloud my text messages the audio output is highly distorted. When I listen to podcasts I have no distortion. If I go to settings/language & input/Text-to-speech output/ and press Listen to an example it is distorted.
In the past with KitKat 4.4.4 I was able to uninstall the latest version of Google TTS which resolved the problem. With the 5.1, neither the current version of Google TTS dated 7/8 nor uninstalling the current version work to solve the issue.
Does anyone have this issue?
Has anyone found a solution?
I tired listening to a tts example it was very clear, my tts version is 3.4.6.1819666.arm you can try it with other tts engine. There are some engines available on play store
What drives me nuts is the stutter I get when swiping away my recent apps. But no other issues so far for me.
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rjcrystal199 said:
I tired listening to a tts example it was very clear, my tts version is 3.4.6.1819666.arm you can try it with other tts engine. There are some engines available on play store
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I am using the same version of TTS as yours. I tried Ivona TTS, but there is no way to force the use of Ivona over Google TTS in every instance. It's a known issue with trying to use other TTS engines as the default engine. You end up with 3 different characters speaking/reading to you.
Thanks for checking your TTS
DarkWolffe said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapbase.LTEswitcher
No root, one Google search, less than two minutes.
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Thanks for the link, that cleared out some things for me, but I've noticed that app looses it's settings after the reboot, is there a way to fix my option (Default is LTE/GSM, but i want it to be GSM - Auto), theres a lot of other buttons that i hardly understand what do they do
Thanks

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