The problem
Hi, I've been experiencing significant interface stuttering whenever an application has been granted accessibility permissions.
Video of the problem
Here is a video demonstrating the issue, read below for technical information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFVKCx5zVmQ
Facts about the problem
Ok so here's what I know so far:
It doesn't matter which service you grant access to, it will lag the same. I've tried LMT, Swipe Navigation, LastPass, TalkBack, and a few more I can't even remember at the moment.
It doesn't matter what ROM or Kernel you are on. I've tried Euphoria with LK and Hydra, rooted stock with stock kernel and LK, and Benzo with whatever the default Benzo kernel is. Doesn't make a single difference.
It does not only affect Relay for Reddit comment collapsing. It also affect Google Newsstand's mini/big card transition, news source transitions, Google Now transitions, basically anywhere there is an animation in the OS I can notice the stuttering.
Anyone else experience this? Any ideas? It is driving me crazy.
I'm not experiencing that
I've used custom roms/kernels almost all of them in the development forum lol
I wonder if maybe it's a particular accessibility itself? I feel like since its needing to be authorized in accessibility that it might be conflicting with something else, who knows?
People usually try booting the phone into safe mode and seeing if maybes its a third party app?
Thats my 2 cents! Hopefully it helps
It has nothing to do with a specific accesibility from what I can feel, stuttering occurs regardless of the app.
I have full wiped several times to test and can't find a solution.
Does anyone else experience this or have any ideas?
Can anybody duplicate this?
Should I RMA?
ggmask said:
Can anybody duplicate this?
Should I RMA?
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adjust your governor/scheduler. me, i like using ondemand/deadline.
simms22 said:
adjust your governor/scheduler. me, i like using ondemand/deadline.
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I've done this when using LK/Hydra, but I am not running stock kernel. None of the adjustments made any noticeable difference unfortunately
I really hate to bump this but the video only has 16 views and I'd love someone else to confirm or deny the same behavior when granting an app accessibility permissions.
If this is common behavior I won't RMA, but if no one else can recreate this I'm going to.
Oh, another thing I noticed: you don't have to test it in an app like Relay for Reddit, you can also do it in the Chrome browser on a site that has a lot of information. What I've noticed is that, when accessibility is granted to any app, visiting XDA forums becomes almost unusable. It takes FOREVER to scroll and when I can scroll it is extremely choppy. Disable the accessibility permission? Completely solves the problem.
You are NOT crazy. I have been searching, seeing if anyone else had this problem. I am using a completely stock Nexus 6 (not rooted), and because of the screen size I have been tinkering with apps to help with one handed use (like pie controls, handy soft keys, etc). They also require accessibility to be enabled. Whenever I install them, I notice (about once every 6-7 times) that when I open my app drawer on Nova launcher, it will half freeze, half stutter. Most of the time it's fine, but once every few times it happens. I haven't paid too much higher attention to whether jt causes stuttering in other apps, but it drives me nuts and so I uninstall the app and go back to stretching my thumb to use the stock nav keys. Wish this would get fixed. Kind of unacceptable for a Nexus - that kind of stuttering is why I don't like using Samsung devices.
Here is the Swipe Navigation developer saying it is definitely a thing in Lollipop with accessibility settings. (screenshot from Play Store comments on Swipe Navigation app). I wish someone could figure this out - I guess we have to wait for Google to do that?
I am using PieControl Pro and I do believe it makes the animations in the Play story stutter when I open a page and use the back button to go back to the app overview. The Play store was never completely smooth no matter what, but when I disable accessibility for PieControl Pro, it becomes a little better. So yeah, accessibility does seem to affect UI performance. I'm on stock Android 5.1 with Franco Kernel.
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You are NOT crazy. I have been searching, seeing if anyone else had this problem. I am using a completely stock Nexus 6 (not rooted), and because of the screen size I have been tinkering with apps to help with one handed use (like pie controls, handy soft keys, etc). They also require accessibility to be enabled. Whenever I install them, I notice (about once every 6-7 times) that when I open my app drawer on Nova launcher, it will half freeze, half stutter. Most of the time it's fine, but once every few times it happens. I haven't paid too much higher attention to whether jt causes stuttering in other apps, but it drives me nuts and so I uninstall the app and go back to stretching my thumb to use the stock nav keys. Wish this would get fixed. Kind of unacceptable for a Nexus - that kind of stuttering is why I don't like using Samsung devices.
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Thank you! I was losing my mind tryingbto figure this out so I opened a support ticket with Google play store and the person who handled my case was able to reproduce it and has made a note of it (whether this means there's an official bug report or not I don't know). He also said this issue cannot be used to RMA, since it wouldn't do anything anyway.
Unless someone can confirm that they DO NOT have this issue.
Im using swipe navigation and I'm noticing stutter as well. Wonder why this happens. Took me a while to figure it out.
Would you mind pointing me to the Google page where you reported this? I would like to star it as well, and follow their updates.
As a follow up, today I decided to tinker around and install pie again. Since the Nova app drawer animation is what I always notice stuttering first, I decided to just turn Nova animations off. Then, I went into Android settings, developer options, and reduced the three animation settings to 0.5x. I may just be seeing what I want to see, but the UI hasn't seemed to stutter with Pie enabled in accessibility (yet). Going to try this for a day or two.
I've gotten the same issues with Lastpass.
Lastpass even states on their site that it's a lollipop issue.
https://lastpass.com/support.php?cmd=showfaq&id=8166
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Thank you! I was losing my mind tryingbto figure this out so I opened a support ticket with Google play store and the person who handled my case was able to reproduce it and has made a note of it (whether this means there's an official bug report or not I don't know). He also said this issue cannot be used to RMA, since it wouldn't do anything anyway.
Unless someone can confirm that they DO NOT have this issue.
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Sorry if this counts as bringing up an old thread, although it's not THAT old
Anyway, I've come here just to corroborate all your findings and confirm that I am also experiencing this ugly bug. A few days ago I installed Greenify which, among other things, asked to enable Accessibility features for it. Thinking nothing of it I did as requested. Next day I start noticing some UI lagginess and choppiness, which was especially noticeable to me in Relay for Reddit since I use it a lot (too much for my own good in fact) and I distinctly remember it had very smooth scrolling between comments just a few days ago. In the mean time, I completely forget I've granted Greenify accessibility control so I went on a mission trying to fix this inexplainable, sudden UI choppiness, by trying to flash a different kernel, trying different governors, dirty flashing my ROM, trying all the other tweaks, and finally doing a factory reset and flashing the stock ROM all over again (luckly I did make a nandroid). Nothing helped. I was at my wits end when I tried searching the app's subreddit for anyone experiencing the same issue and found a comments saying accessibility features were to blame. I felt stupid for not researching it before. However, this bug is very insidious as it just creeps up on you, with no reason. I also don't know how can accessibility features affect UI smoothness this way.
Yes, hopefully will be fixed in M maybe? I haven't checked around to see if those who have installed M preview have checked to see if the bug has been fixed there. Fingers crossed.....
Not fixed in M. Everyone should go star the issue so it gets fixed!
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=2092
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Not fixed in M. Everyone should go star the issue so it gets fixed!
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=2092
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Still isnt fixed ) But my lag rather appears when tapping on any app icon, then it highlights, then go lag, then opening animation starts.
Post this over on reddit and see if you can bring a bit more attention to the issue.
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Does anyoe else's tab do this
When I scroll in a webpage or app, and I stop scrolling but still have my finger pressed on the screen, the screen starts to shake a little until I move my finger again, is it just my tab or is it a common thing?
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the only thing i can suggest is that you are slightly moving your finger, its sensitive so might look like its shaking?
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Does anyoe else's tab do this
When I scroll in a webpage or app, and I stop scrolling but still have my finger pressed on the screen, the screen starts to shake a little until I move my finger again, is it just my tab or is it a common thing?
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Mine does that too. I wouldn't be too worried about it since it only happens in the web browser for me.
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its not defective, its cause your holding your finger on it, especially in a web browser if your zoomed in a page and scroll it might happen.
its just your finger moving a tad bit that the tab senses. Also it might be catching two touch responses from your finger, not the tabs fault. Its the way you use it really.
Dont worry. The tabs touch response is pretty sensitive, which is VERY good thing trust me. Its better to be responsive then crappy on a touch tablet.
Sorry, but yes, it is a problem
I'll respectfully disagree. I have the same issue in my galaxy tab, and I've tried several others, this behavior is found in just a few.
I've made a video and a drawing test to illustrate it. I've put them in a page in a domain that I own.
(XDA still doesn't allo me to paste a link, but the address is fgfaria.com )
I've tried an app called touchscreen booster, which appeared to be appropriate from its description, but didn't notice any difference.
But there is a very intriguing point. It doesn't look like it's a hardware problem. I have installed touch test app, and with that the touch is perfect, no shaking. Also, specifically in youtube app, when scrolling the list of videos, it doesn't happen.
I need to find out why it happens pretty much everywhere, but not on youtube app and touch test apps.
Just to make it even more complex: as you'll see in the picture in the url above, towards to the right edge of the screen the problem is much lighter or doesn't happen.
If someone can help, that would be hugely appreciated!
Thanks,
Fabio
I'm getting this problem too. I get TERRIBLE shakiness when i hold finger input especially in google maps.
I highly doubt it's a hardware issue because this only started happening to me ever since i installed the italian gingerbread rom.
This this GB rom giving anyone else the same issue?
Same problem here
I am also having the same problem, installed an application called "Touchscreen Booster" but no avail.
Strange thing is that the problem seems to not happen on Youtube application.
I also have GB 2.3.3, in my case, the overcome room 2.0.0
One possible solution
Did you guys check the url I've sent? (fgfaria.com)?
Is your problem just like mine? In my case, I had the problem since Froyo 2.2, and still have it (the same way, no change) after an update to 2.2.1.
My GT is not rooted, and I'm waiting for gingerbread to be made available through Kies in Brazil to proceed with the update.
Another interesting thing is that most touch test apps behave normally (no shakiness).
Possible good news: I've found an app in the Market called "ILITEK Touch Utility".
Unfortunately I couldn't use it in my GT as it appears to require the device to be rooted. But it has several features from calibration to screen software reset. Hopefully this may help, specially as it seems to be a software issue.
Let me know if this works for you.
Regards,
Fabio
mine does EXACTLY the same thing as per your website.
the app does not seem to fix anything...
sigh...
at least good to know someone else is experiencing the same problem.
The problem is app specific
Hi all,
In addition to touch test apps and youtube app, there are some other apps that don't present the problem. One specific interesting case is the one of the HelloListView tutorial presented in Android Developers website.
I've followed the tutorial, and created this illustrative app that just creates a list and allows you to scroll up and down. This specific app doesn't present the problem we've been discussing. I've made it available for download as apk file in the end of that same testing page (fgfaria.com)
That application being so simple and not presenting the problem, and the other apps that also don't present it, makes me think that the problem may appear when some specific library gets included in an app. Possibly something related to hardware acceleration, for example (just guessing, no specific reasons to believe that).
If only we could isolate the cause of the problem, we could notify Google and/or Samsung and influence a new patch release.
This is as far as I have gone so far. Ideas, reactions?
Regards,
Fabio
Or the libraries being used in this tutorial include some kind of filter not used in problematic apps...
I posted about the same problem here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096698
I've included pics from my tests. Notice how before I installed the custom rom, the lines were perfectly smooth. This definitely has something to do with the software. We need to have one of the rom devs look at this and find out what might be the cause.
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I posted about the same problem here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096698
I've included pics from my tests. Notice how before I installed the custom rom, the lines were perfectly smooth. This definitely has something to do with the software. We need to have one of the rom devs look at this and find out what might be the cause.
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hi grukko, thanks for your comment!
To me, the most intriguing part is that the behavior happens in some apps, and not in other. I have done a very similar test, which I've published in the address http://fgfaria.com
As you see in the thread, the problem doesn't happen in youtube app, and screen touch test apps and in the list tutorial app I've created following instructions in Android Developers website.
Can you check if your problem is the same checking if youtube doesn't "shake"?
Thanks!
Fabio
fgfaria said:
hi grukko, thanks for your comment!
To me, the most intriguing part is that the behavior happens in some apps, and not in other. I have done a very similar test, which I've published in the address http://fgfaria.com
As you see in the thread, the problem doesn't happen in youtube app, and screen touch test apps and in the list tutorial app I've created following instructions in Android Developers website.
Can you check if your problem is the same checking if youtube doesn't "shake"?
Thanks!
Fabio
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Your test results look similar to mine. I just tried youtube and it does not shake.
New discovery:
It may be a hardware problem (at least in my case). A friend, in another forum noticed that the jittering only happens in screens with a light background, specially white.
This can be quickly tested, by opening a web page that has a white and a black part. Zooming in the white part (so that all background you see is white) and keeping the finger still, the screen starts shaking. If you move to the black part, zoom and keep you finger still, no shake at all.
Regards,
Fabio
Anyone? There is a solution for Galaxy S (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844216&page=3#). There must be a solution for Galaxy Tab 7 too...
Touch screen issues
Count me as another member of the shaky touch screen club! Anyone found a resolution yet?
No luck yet. Official upgrade to Gingerbread is not yet available in Brazil. I'm waiting for this upgrade to check if things get better, but I'm not so optmistic, as I've seen reports from many people to whom the problem actually started after the upgrade. Does anyone know if the problem has already been officially reported to Samsung?
Nope. Not mine, the tab working flawlessly
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i have the same annoying issue on my GT P1000 with gingerbread 2.3.3 Kernel: 2.6.35.7
i also have the vibration on Youtube app and any black background slightly.
Hi,
Im just curious how to track down the reason for reboots with stock ROM and stock kernel, not rooted. I had one random reboot yesterday (when watching trailers in the IMDB app) after almost a week I own N7. I know that one reboot in a week is nothing, but its my new toy and Id like to know how to track down the reason for that in case it happens again.
I found out some threads about this and generally it says I should use LogCat - but I dont know how to use it. So I please ask for help! For now, I started Stability Test (CPU+GPU) and wait ...
Happy New Year, Y'all !!!
EDIT: Ghardashyan a bit lower mentioned hes been having reboots when watching youtube videos. Anybody else having this kind of behavior? Also, I had my reboot when watching trailers in the IMDB app - its playing via youtube, right?
The ONLY reboot I have ever seen, is when the default lockscreen widget gets updated by the marketplace. It's guaranteed to reboot on 4.2. It does it every time on both my Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7.
You will only ever see it, if you remove the default android 4.2 lockscreen time widget and put something else there from the marketplace, and only when that widget gets a marketplace file update.
Perhaps you are seeing this? Do you have auto-update apps enabled???
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The ONLY reboot I have ever seen, is when the default lockscreen widget gets updated by the marketplace. It's guaranteed to reboot on 4.2. It does it every time on both my Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7.
You will only ever see it, if you remove the default android 4.2 lockscreen time widget and put something else there from the marketplace, and only when that widget gets a marketplace file update.
Perhaps you are seeing this? Do you have auto-update apps enabled???
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I dont have auto-update enabled. I added another time/weather widget to the lockscreen but I dont think it got updated yesterday ... I will remove it and hope it wont reboot again. I sure think it was some app as the stability test goes for 2 hours without problem.
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I dont have auto-update enabled. I added another time/weather widget to the lockscreen but I dont think it got updated yesterday ... I will remove it and hope it wont reboot again. I sure think it was some app as the stability test goes for 2 hours without problem.
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Its to do with location based services, HD Widgets is a major culprit and stated they were talking to Google to try and resolve the issue, it is also as stated before mainly because of the new lockscreen widgets, which HD Widgets also provide, so the stock widget could also cause the same issue?
Mine have pretty much stopped with the last update of HD Widgets, but it does still occur.
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Its to do with location based services, HD Widgets is a major culprit and stated they were talking to Google to try and resolve the issue, it is also as stated before mainly because of the new lockscreen widgets, which HD Widgets also provide, so the stock widget could also cause the same issue?
Mine have pretty much stopped with the last update of HD Widgets, but it does still occur.
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Just for your information, I dont use HD Widgets
Since you're on stock rom and kernel, I think the best way would be to reset your device and keep track of what applications are installed, one at a time.
My guess is that one of the installed apps are causing it..
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Since you're on stock rom and kernel, I think the best way would be to reset your device and keep track of what applications are installed, one at a time.
My guess is that one of the installed apps are causing it..
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I know that, but as it was one reboot only in less than a week, it could take months to track the app down ... :laugh: Im about to restart the device myself and then use alogrec to continually record stuff.
EDIT: Alogrec is not recording a thing, so I rooted my phone. In case of restart, I believe it should be enough to save last_kmsg. Am I right?
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Hi,
Im just curious how to track down the reason for reboots with stock ROM and stock kernel, not rooted. I had one random reboot yesterday (when watching trailers in the IMDB app) after almost a week I own N7. I know that one reboot in a week is nothing, but its my new toy and Id like to know how to track down the reason for that in case it happens again.
I found out some threads about this and generally it says I should use LogCat - but I dont know how to use it. So I please ask for help! For now, I started Stability Test (CPU+GPU) and wait ...
Happy New Year, Y'all !!!
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I get some occasional reboot when watching Youtube videos... Leaved the stability test for 2 hours, no reboots.
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I get some occasional reboot when watching Youtube videos... Leaved the stability test for 2 hours, no reboots.
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I had my reboot when watching IMDB trailers - which also are on youtube, am I right??
BTW Is your problem repeatable? Eg. is there any time watching youtube that quarantees reboot? Id like to check that ... And are you using the youtube app?
REALLY?
Check out the thread 4.2 Random reboots instead of making new threads.
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Correlation does not equal causation and it seems some are eager to go barking up the wrong tree. As has been stated here, as well as confirmed by Google, it is a bug at the OS level. It has nothing to do, per say, with HD Widgets, YouTube, or any individual app. It affects all products running 4.2 and 4.2.1.
Until Google fixes the issue, there are only two guaranteed workarounds- disable location services or downgrade to 4.1.2.
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Correlation does not equal causation and it seems some are eager to go barking up the wrong tree. As has been stated here, as well as confirmed by Google, it is a bug at the OS level. It has nothing to do, per say, with HD Widgets, YouTube, or any individual app. It affects all products running 4.2 and 4.2.1.
Until Google fixes the issue, there are only two guaranteed workarounds- disable location services or downgrade to 4.1.2.
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Thanks, never heard of that. How do I disable Location Services? Should I just turn off the Location access menu? Or is it a service under running services? In that case, which one?
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Thanks, never heard of that. How do I disable Location Services? Should I just turn off the Location access menu? Or is it a service under running services? In that case, which one?
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Settings › Location. Bear in mind that the tradeoff is that, among other things, Google Now will no longer be functional.
For me, the reboots haven't been annoying enough to warrant disabling it on mine just yet.
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Settings › Location. Bear in mind that the tradeoff is that, among other things, Google Now will no longer be functional.
For me, the reboots haven't been annoying enough to warrant disabling it on mine just yet.
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Great, thanks. :good: I disabled that for now and will turn it on only when I need navigation. I dont use Google Now anyway.
BTW, when Google finds a solution for this, should I expect a full system upgrade?
Just experienced my first random reboot while streaming a flash video on Firefox Beta..
Random reboots are annoying me as well with my stock unrooted n7
Mostly though its during wifi/network activity not just in one app, have had reboots while in youtube, ebay, chrome etc. I have also seen it reboot while in standby
All started from 4.2
Would be interested to know if these reboots are reported back to google?
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My Nexus 7 has 38 days uptime, only thing "special" I've done is I've disabled lockscreen widgets:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wordpress.chislonchow.deviceadminkeyguard
Stock 4.2.1, rooted.
Hey everyone,
So I've been trying to "modernize" my phone, since I'm under the impression that I can get another 2-3 years out of it. So far I have:
-Running 7.1.1 stock rooted w/Franco kernel
-Hacked to include Pixel launcher (works great)
-Hacked to include Assistant (works great)
-Hacked to run Daydream (works great(ish)) -These tutorials are all available online and are pretty simple if you kinda know what you're doing
I bought a Daydream headset and have been playing with the apps. Some seem to work fine, and some won't run, some won't install. This seems like pretty fresh territory, so I haven't found much help online.
I know our phone supposedly doesn't meet the intended hardware specs (thermal characteristics, and GPU speed?), but it sure seems capable enough to me.
-Home screen and remote - works no problem.
-Playstore - works no problem.
-Netflix VR - works no problem.
-Arts & Culture - works no problem.
-Asteroids - This is pretty awesome. It's a demo of an animated episode (not the old game). It has 3D sound, which I wasn't expecting since the Netflix VR app didn't have it.
-Youtube VR - won't install (sideload). A little research, and it sounds like this app won't run on our phone's architecture. As far as I know, I can't force it to run. I'm very interested in getting this to work though.
-NextVR - Launches to blank screen.
-Hello Mars - works no problem. Lacking content it seems.
-JauntVR - works no problem.
-Littlestar - opens to non-side-by-side screen.
-InceptionVR - opens to non-side-by-side screen.
-Etc.. haven't tried very many yet.
For some of these, I wonder... I have my phone "posing" as a Pixel XL. I wonder if it would make a difference if I changed it to Pixel regular instead.
Anyhow, there must be others out there who are interested in exploring Daydream on our Nexus 6. Please share your experiences/expertise or point to relevant threads I may have missed!
Unfortunately I am in the same situation as you are, but I am just as interested in getting it resolved. The Daydream UI and the apps that are working actually work very well. What I found is the apps that are opening single screen are doing so because of our device info. I can go into the build.prop and edit the ro.product.device to marlin instead of shamu the app will open in a side by side screen. The only problem is that my phone reboots after running for a few minutes (even if I am not in daydream). I emailed the app developer of "AFFECTED:The Manor" and he said they will adjust the app requirements in their next update, but we can't expect everyone to be so helpful. We need to come up with a way to edit the build.prop info without causing rebooting. Keep me posted and I will do the same ...
Very cool, glad I'm not alone here.
I did notice that Netflix seemed to have picked out that my device was a Shamu, but luckily at least that app doesn't care.
FYI it looks like a bunch more apps just got added to the in-Daydream app-store. Going to try a few of those, and also trying to get google photos working.
Having trouble with Google Pictures in daydream. I get a message saying there is no daydream content for this app. I tried the same build.prop mod you mentioned, and it did not help with that app. I can confirm it did fix the others which didn't previously work. It threw off my kernel though, so I set it back to Shamu. I didn't experience reboots, but I had it set that way for about 10 minutes only.
Guys remember that there is a reason the nexus 6 didnt make the cut. One of the main reasons being that it wont be getting the vulcan drivers that daydream will need. By forcing it you could damage your device beyond repair. Its a high risk for something that will most likely die out over the next few years.
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Guys remember that there is a reason the nexus 6 didnt make the cut. One of the main reasons being that it wont be getting the vulcan drivers that daydream will need. By forcing it you could damage your device beyond repair. Its a high risk for something that will most likely die out over the next few years.
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Yes good point. I personally am prepared for the worst, but yeah, disclaimer to others...
I was able to get it to work in safe mode.. But after rebooting I was still logged in but it's like the touch screen is dead and when I move my phone the picture jitters
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I was able to get it to work in safe mode.. But after rebooting I was still logged in but it's like the touch screen is dead and when I move my phone the picture jitters
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Get what to work?
stev067 said:
Get what to work?
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The daydream app... Isn't that what this forum is about?
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The daydream app... Isn't that what this forum is about?
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We had just been talking about getting specific apps running, so I didn't know if you were referring to a certain app or just Daydream in general. I didn't have any trouble following the guide to get Daydream up and running. You sure you did it right?
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We had just been talking about getting specific apps running, so I didn't know if you were referring to a certain app or just Daydream in general. I didn't have any trouble following the guide to get Daydream up and running. You sure you did it right?
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I'll go back and check my steps.. Thanks
stev067 said:
Having trouble with Google Pictures in daydream. I get a message saying there is no daydream content for this app. I tried the same build.prop mod you mentioned, and it did not help with that app. I can confirm it did fix the others which didn't previously work. It threw off my kernel though, so I set it back to Shamu. I didn't experience reboots, but I had it set that way for about 10 minutes only.
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That is going to be the key to getting those apps working, it is pulling info from the build.prop to verify it should run in the dual screen mode. I just can't figure out how to make the edit and have my device run correctly. I noticed when I changed shamu to marlin even some of my apps updated (like camera) to the pixel camera, but it is supposed to run on 64 bit system so it crashed. I think the change will have to take place on the app side, which is unfortunate.
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That is going to be the key to getting those apps working, it is pulling info from the build.prop to verify it should run in the dual screen mode. I just can't figure out how to make the edit and have my device run correctly. I noticed when I changed shamu to marlin even some of my apps updated (like camera) to the pixel camera, but it is supposed to run on 64 bit system so it crashed. I think the change will have to take place on the app side, which is unfortunate.
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Check this article out: http://apcmag.com/how-to-fake-an-android-device.htm/
It's kinda old, but it sounds like there's more lines that may need to be changed besides [ro.product.device].
stev067 said:
Check this article out: http://apcmag.com/how-to-fake-an-android-device.htm/
It's kinda old, but it sounds like there's more lines that may need to be changed besides [ro.product.device].
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Yea, I had tried all combinations one at a time and all at once and my device would always reboot. I found during the trial and error that only the ro.product.device was what the app was reading, but could not stop the rebooting.
I recently bought the Honor 10 Lite and everything, from its looks to the performance has impressed me. However, I noticed a very frustrating issue with the "recent apps" function. Every time I try to switch to another app from the list, it reloads all over again instead of opening it in the way it was left.
I did my research and found that tons of other users using EMUI 9.0 or above are facing this and it is happening due to Memory Management. I found and tried all the alternative solutions like lowering the screen resolution, changing the "App Launch" settings to Manual in the battery options, disabling the apps from the "Battery Optimization" settings from the Special Access menu etc. but none of it works. Some have also mentioned to Disable or Uninstall the stock launcher to get back to the Oreo style Recent App card list as a solution. But I am scared to do that, as it can affect the future updates for sure.
It seems like our phone's forum hasn't been quite active so far. Its obvious as its a new device and people are yet to find and talk about issues here. Anyway, there is surely a memory leak which is causing all this. The remaining memory is always below 1 gb which is unusual in a phone with 4 gb of RAM. And it is due to this, the apps are being reloaded in the Recent Apps list to free up more RAM! I really hope Honor will look into this and find a solution in the upcoming update!
Please share your opinion or help out if you are facing the same too. Thanks!
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Some have also mentioned to Disable or Uninstall the stock launcher to get back to the Oreo style Recent App card list as a solution. But I am scared to do that, as it can affect the future updates for sure.
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If its non Chinese variant you can simply change launcher there is no need to afraid about it.And updates wont be effected.
miststudent2011 said:
If its non Chinese variant you can simply change launcher there is no need to afraid about it.And updates wont be effected.
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I have an Indian version of Honor 10 Lite. And I am using a different launcher already. So you are saying, I can disable or uninstall the stock launcher and the updates wont be affected? You sure?
I wrote about this to Honor India's official page in Facebook before few minutes. And their reply was quite typical. They wanted me to turn off the android system and transition animations to free up the ram and stuffs. I clearly told them that this was a memory management issue as others described it. But they gave me this irrelevant reply!
I just bought this phone. I mean its just been 2 days. I really dont wish to regret my decision now. The recent apps keeps reloading every time I switch them. Its ridiculous!
veezybaybee said:
I have an Indian version of Honor 10 Lite. And I am using a different launcher already. So you are saying, I can disable or uninstall the stock launcher and the updates wont be affected? You sure?
I wrote about this to Honor India's official page in Facebook before few minutes. And their reply was quite typical. They wanted me to turn off the android system and transition animations to free up the ram and stuffs. I clearly told them that this was a memory management issue as others described it. But they gave me this irrelevant reply!
I just bought this phone. I mean its just been 2 days. I really dont wish to regret my decision now. The recent apps keeps reloading every time I switch them. Its ridiculous!
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I have Honor 10 and I use different launcher other than Stock and its works fine and ota too work.
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I have Honor 10 and I use different launcher other than Stock and its works fine and ota too work.
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Yeah, thats what I said too. I am using another launcher apart from the stock "Huawei Home". I have not disabled or uninstalled the stock launcher yet. Shall I do that? That is what i am asking!
A lot of people have said that uninstalling the stock launcher will free up a lot of RAM and also enable the Oreo styled recent apps card list which will solve this app reloading issue!
I just contacted the Huawei customer care and a lady advised me to record the whole issue and send the video to their service email address. I have shared this EMUI 9.0 issue faced by others as a feedback to them too. Hope they will fix this in the upcoming update!
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Yeah, thats what I said too. I am using another launcher apart from the stock "Huawei Home". I have not disabled or uninstalled the stock launcher yet. Shall I do that? That is what i am asking!
A lot of people have said that uninstalling the stock launcher will free up a lot of RAM and also enable the Oreo styled recent apps card list which will solve this app reloading issue!
I just contacted the Huawei customer care and a lady advised me to record the whole issue and send the video to their service email address. I have shared this EMUI 9.0 issue faced by others as a feedback to them too. Hope they will fix this in the upcoming update!
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I have not disabled or uninstalled the stock launcher yet. Shall I do that? That is what i am asking!
Yes, you can if any issue happens you can just reset your phone it will be back to normal.
veezybaybee said:
I recently bought the Honor 10 Lite and everything, from its looks to the performance has impressed me. However, I noticed a very frustrating issue with the "recent apps" function. Every time I try to switch to another app from the list, it reloads all over again instead of opening it in the way it was left.
I did my research and found that tons of other users using EMUI 9.0 or above are facing this and it is happening due to Memory Management. I found and tried all the alternative solutions like lowering the screen resolution, changing the "App Launch" settings to Manual in the battery options, disabling the apps from the "Battery Optimization" settings from the Special Access menu etc. but none of it works. Some have also mentioned to Disable or Uninstall the stock launcher to get back to the Oreo style Recent App card list as a solution. But I am scared to do that, as it can affect the future updates for sure.
It seems like our phone's forum hasn't been quite active so far. Its obvious as its a new device and people are yet to find and talk about issues here. Anyway, there is surely a memory leak which is causing all this. The remaining memory is always below 1 gb which is unusual in a phone with 4 gb of RAM. And it is due to this, the apps are being reloaded in the Recent Apps list to free up more RAM! I really hope Honor will look into this and find a solution in the upcoming update!
Please share your opinion or help out if you are facing the same too. Thanks!
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Hey,
I can confirm this. I've got a model having 3 gb ram. I am using Microsoft Launcher and deactivated everything related to battery to test it out.
1. Closed all my apps via recent apps
2. Then I opened a folder in ES Explorer and went back to homescreen.
3. I went into gallery and watched a video for 60 seconds, back to homescreen.
4. I went into Facebook and read an article for 60 seconds.
5. Going back to Es Explorer (No matter via Homescreen or recent tabs) makes it reload completely.
This definitely is not related to not having enough RAM.
I also can't deactivate my Huawei home, it is greyed out. Right now i am seriously starting to hate that phone.
Alright I got it working more or less by uninstalling Huawei home via adb. it's not perfect (3-4 keep open mostly), but with the switch to card style in recent apps it finally feels not as sluggish as before anymore.
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Hey,
I can confirm this. I've got a model having 3 gb ram. I am using Microsoft Launcher and deactivated everything related to battery to test it out.
1. Closed all my apps via recent apps
2. Then I opened a folder in ES Explorer and went back to homescreen.
3. I went into gallery and watched a video for 60 seconds, back to homescreen.
4. I went into Facebook and read an article for 60 seconds.
5. Going back to Es Explorer (No matter via Homescreen or recent tabs) makes it reload completely.
This definitely is not related to not having enough RAM.
I also can't deactivate my Huawei home, it is greyed out. Right now i am seriously starting to hate that phone.
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Remove battery saving mode or some apps automatically optimized by phone manager or other solution is to keep that app in app assistant or game mode. UI is made for battery optimization and ram management otherwise you have got stock android
I have this problem too! It's so annoying. The phone is perfect besidd this problem
Hi All,
So I have been trying to switch to android 10 couple times (3 exact) but because of it's bugs/annoyances it is really impossible to have it as a daily driver. Here are couple that I've found:
- bottom chin when keyboard is enabled (like really, what the hell. I know that for some folks that option is great and all, but it is making the keyboard unusable for me. I often touch the spot where the space bar should be and because of that writing seems very uncomfortable...
- LAG WHEN COMING BACK TO HOMESCREEN FROM APP - this is the biggest one for me. That problem occurs when you are using a custom launcher (like Nova, Evie etc.). Every time when you are coming from app to the homescreen, there is slightly delay in animation (like icons need some time to load...). That for me is biggest issue. Why do I need to withstand the lag in the system, when I have the fastest android smartphone on the planet?! Yet still i haven't found an solution for that (besides turning the animation completely off....)
If you don't have any those (or similar) problems and for you this update is gods gift then please don't respond....
I'am really disappointed with this Update and it seems that Oneplus is not going fix/change anything at all with it because they have already started rolling out the updates for Oneplus 6...
Feel free to comment on that topic
Thanks
Paweł
Just so you know the keyboard space is on every phone with Android 10, it is part of Googles implementation of gestures. It allows the use of gestures while the keyboard is open without typing or typing without triggering gestures.
Have you thought of using the stock luncher?...
@Snowolf940
Well Mr. Snow wolf, "sucks" is a relative term but I found 10.0.0 too buggy for me so I moved back to 9.5.11 and waited for another update.
10.0.1 solved all of the issues that bothered me except that annoying space under the keyboard. That made it so difficult to type for me. I understand the frustration there.
I stumbled upon this awesome fix yesterday here at xda. -100 did it best for me. The -75 was not enough removal of space.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/themes/fix-adb-disable-black-bar-10-0-1-t3987731
I haven't noticed the animation lag on Nova (which I am using) you were speaking about so sorry I can't help with that. But I would genuinely be surprised if it wasn't ironed out in the next update which personally I would guess would be soon.
I hope this helps you. Hang in there man. There will be better days ahead.
I don't know exactly what the issue with the keyboard layout is, but my keyboard hasn't changed.
EnhancedIME - AOSP with swipe
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/enhancedime-aosp-latinime-enhancements-t3366639
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I don't know exactly what the issue with the keyboard layout is, but my keyboard hasn't changed.
EnhancedIME - AOSP with swipe
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/enhancedime-aosp-latinime-enhancements-t3366639
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It has been stated many times across many threads here at xda regarding the space between the keyboard and the bottom of the phone when using gestures (not a nav bar). When someone is not used to that space, users are hitting it accidentally instead of the spacebar creating many errors in typing. If you are using a navbar this does not apply. The keyboard you are using is not relevant either.
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Have you thought of using the stock luncher?...
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Why? I Have android Phone because of the modifications/customizations you can make...
My Evie launcher has options that stock launcher Just doesnt Have. Also the delay doesnt appear on android 9...
JDROIDS said:
@Snowolf940
Well Mr. Snow wolf, "sucks" is a relative term but I found 10.0.0 too buggy for me so I moved back to 9.5.11 and waited for another update.
10.0.1 solved all of the issues that bothered me except that annoying space under the keyboard. That made it so difficult to type for me. I understand the frustration there.
I stumbled upon this awesome fix yesterday here at xda. -100 did it best for me. The -75 was not enough removal of space.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/themes/fix-adb-disable-black-bar-10-0-1-t3987731
I haven't noticed the animation lag on Nova (which I am using) you were speaking about so sorry I can't help with that. But I would genuinely be surprised if it wasn't ironed out in the next update which personally I would guess would be soon.
I hope this helps you. Hang in there man. There will be better days ahead.
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I have heard that this option also cut the toast notifications which is bad
I am just really disappointed with this update. I have thought that the company like Oneplus just can't roll out so unpolished firmware.
Right now iam afraid that going back to 10 will be just waste of time....
+ I also recall that I was not able to turn off the Facebook messenger vibrations without completely turning them off...
Snowolf940 said:
Why? I Have android Phone because of the modifications/customizations you can make...
My Evie launcher has options that stock launcher Just doesnt Have. Also the delay doesnt appear on android 9...
I have heard that this option also cut the toast notifications which is bad
I am just really disappointed with this update. I have thought that the company like Oneplus just can't roll out so unpolished firmware.
Right now iam afraid that going back to 10 will be just waste of time....
+ I also recall that I was not able to turn off the Facebook messenger vibrations without completely turning them off...
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I have not had this issue with the toast notification. I also haven't had the animation issue either. There are users having no problems at all on 10 so maybe you need to investigate more.
My only issue was with the keyboard and that modification fixed it.
You have other companies literally breaking wifi and data with updates so if OnePlus adds a space under the keyboard which has a fix, I think most will think it's okay.
But I would at least try the keyboard fix instead of just complaining when others are giving solutions.
The Facebook thing I don't know because I don't use Facebook and that app is the worst app for a phone known to man.
I've noticed some apps crashing, but I'm rooted so it is what it is. Overall no major issues here
Android auto also fully broken.. it's a shame
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m4ssnet said:
Android auto also fully broken.. it's a shame
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Nope. Tons of people report Android Auto works fine on 10
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Nope. Tons of people report Android Auto works fine on 10
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Please do not disregard the problem only because for most people Android Auto works fine
Same thing with my issues with Android 10.
So after reinstalling it (4th time, full wipe every time ofc), I still have a delay when coming back to the homescreen from my Lanucher (it doesn't matter which 3rd party launcher I use). It's really pissing me off...
Once again, I do not understand comments like "for me everything works fine/ I can't see the problem". That's because either you are lucky one and Oneplus made a version of software especially for you (sarcasm on) or you are unable to see it... So please don't commit to this conversation if you don't have anything interesting to say. We all know that your version of Android 10 is pure perfect (please brag somewhere else)
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Please do not disregard the problem only because for most people Android Auto works fine
Same thing with my issues with Android 10.
So after reinstalling it (4th time, full wipe every time ofc), I still have a delay when coming back to the homescreen from my Lanucher (it doesn't matter which 3rd party launcher I use). It's really pissing me off...
Once again, I do not understand comments like "for me everything works fine/ I can't see the problem". That's because either you are lucky one and Oneplus made a version of software especially for you (sarcasm on) or you are unable to see it... So please don't commit to this conversation if you don't have anything interesting to say. We all know that your version of Android 10 is pure perfect (please brag somewhere else)
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Please do not disregard all if you dont know how to use phone and android 10. My android 10 works just fine, zero problems! Have you even think all problems be caused by you. Stop spamming nosense and just buy iphone
mumuli said:
Please do not disregard all if you dont know how to use phone and android 10. My android 10 works just fine, zero problems! Have you even think all problems be caused by you. Stop spamming nosense and just buy iphone
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Haha! This is hilarious! :good:
I saw that this thread was bumped and I was like, "this dude is still complaining?" :laugh:
I'll report that I'm on ob5 and this is awesome. Android auto running well as is everything else. I guess I avoided the user error bug. I figure, if we have identical phones, and mine works great on the same software another is having issues with, it's either user error or maybe a bad phone and it needs to be replaced? Not sure.
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Haha! This is hilarious! :good:
I saw that this thread was bumped and I was like, "this dude is still complaining?" :laugh:
I'll report that I'm on ob5 and this is awesome. Android auto running well as is everything else. I guess I avoided the user error bug. I figure, if we have identical phones, and mine works great on the same software another is having issues with, it's either user error or maybe a bad phone and it needs to be replaced? Not sure.
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What launcher are you using?
Oh, there's also no delay going to the homescreen on a proper setup. If you want to use gestures on a custom launcher, it has to have quickstep support and you need to use quickswitch to set it as the recents provider
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Oh, there's also no delay going to the homescreen on a proper setup. If you want to use gestures on a custom launcher, it has to have quickstep support and you need to use quickswitch to set it as the recents provider
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What?
Honestly, I am surprised that nobody else has this problem with the delay or "notices" it. Of course I am happy for you! :good:
But unfortunately I also have this problem and it sucks really!
I have had the problem with Lawnchair, but the Nova Launcher also has this problem. Installing QuickSwitch does not help, it says that the launcher is not compatible with it...
That alone makes me think about either going back to Android 9 or trying out a custom Rom. But the problem seems to be widespread on Android 10.
Actually, the Stock Launcher is great, but I don't have the possibility to adjust icon sizes and grid. The presets are not enough. And I really don't like the drawer with this strange semi-transparent background.
At the end, i really hoping so that one or the either probem(s) will be fixed. I'm soo upset because of this crap but i should not be able to be so on such an high priced smartphone really...
Maybe you are mostly on Open Beta 5/6 and that lag is actually fixed?!..
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Honestly, I am surprised that nobody else has this problem with the delay or "notices" it. Of course I am happy for you! :good:
But unfortunately I also have this problem and it sucks really!
I have had the problem with Lawnchair, but the Nova Launcher also has this problem. Installing QuickSwitch does not help, it says that the launcher is not compatible with it...
That alone makes me think about either going back to Android 9 or trying out a custom Rom. But the problem seems to be widespread on Android 10.
Actually, the Stock Launcher is great, but I don't have the possibility to adjust icon sizes and grid. The presets are not enough. And I really don't like the drawer with this strange semi-transparent background.
At the end, i really hoping so that one or the either probem(s) will be fixed. I'm soo upset because of this crap but i should not be able to be so on such an high priced smartphone really...
Maybe you are mostly on Open Beta 5/6 and that lag is actually fixed?!..
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Finally someone is on my side with this case. I have tried custom roms/latest betas but it doesn't change anything...
So the last option is to roll back to Good old android 9 ;(
DJ_BARO said:
Honestly, I am surprised that nobody else has this problem with the delay or "notices" it. Of course I am happy for you! :good:
But unfortunately I also have this problem and it sucks really!
I have had the problem with Lawnchair, but the Nova Launcher also has this problem. Installing QuickSwitch does not help, it says that the launcher is not compatible with it...
That alone makes me think about either going back to Android 9 or trying out a custom Rom. But the problem seems to be widespread on Android 10.
Actually, the Stock Launcher is great, but I don't have the possibility to adjust icon sizes and grid. The presets are not enough. And I really don't like the drawer with this strange semi-transparent background.
At the end, i really hoping so that one or the either probem(s) will be fixed. I'm soo upset because of this crap but i should not be able to be so on such an high priced smartphone really...
Maybe you are mostly on Open Beta 5/6 and that lag is actually fixed?!..
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I have started to notice the lag on launcher when unplugging the phone after using Android Auto.
What fixes it for me is to lock the screen and unlock it again a few times and then if will become responsive again.
This oddly (or not...) also coincides with some server side changes that Google pushed to Android Auto to enable the new features.
Adding here that the theme changes have just gone worse with 10.0.2 - theme follows the car, so if you use a dark theme and the car is in daytime, it will change the theme on the phone to bright when you exit Android Auto.
Also, the audio quality is pretty horrid and still not fixed, but I am experiencing with a workaround and will report when I have more concrete results