Hi All,
So I have been trying to switch to android 10 couple times (3 exact) but because of it's bugs/annoyances it is really impossible to have it as a daily driver. Here are couple that I've found:
- bottom chin when keyboard is enabled (like really, what the hell. I know that for some folks that option is great and all, but it is making the keyboard unusable for me. I often touch the spot where the space bar should be and because of that writing seems very uncomfortable...
- LAG WHEN COMING BACK TO HOMESCREEN FROM APP - this is the biggest one for me. That problem occurs when you are using a custom launcher (like Nova, Evie etc.). Every time when you are coming from app to the homescreen, there is slightly delay in animation (like icons need some time to load...). That for me is biggest issue. Why do I need to withstand the lag in the system, when I have the fastest android smartphone on the planet?! Yet still i haven't found an solution for that (besides turning the animation completely off....)
If you don't have any those (or similar) problems and for you this update is gods gift then please don't respond....
I'am really disappointed with this Update and it seems that Oneplus is not going fix/change anything at all with it because they have already started rolling out the updates for Oneplus 6...
Feel free to comment on that topic
Thanks
Paweł
Just so you know the keyboard space is on every phone with Android 10, it is part of Googles implementation of gestures. It allows the use of gestures while the keyboard is open without typing or typing without triggering gestures.
Have you thought of using the stock luncher?...
@Snowolf940
Well Mr. Snow wolf, "sucks" is a relative term but I found 10.0.0 too buggy for me so I moved back to 9.5.11 and waited for another update.
10.0.1 solved all of the issues that bothered me except that annoying space under the keyboard. That made it so difficult to type for me. I understand the frustration there.
I stumbled upon this awesome fix yesterday here at xda. -100 did it best for me. The -75 was not enough removal of space.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/themes/fix-adb-disable-black-bar-10-0-1-t3987731
I haven't noticed the animation lag on Nova (which I am using) you were speaking about so sorry I can't help with that. But I would genuinely be surprised if it wasn't ironed out in the next update which personally I would guess would be soon.
I hope this helps you. Hang in there man. There will be better days ahead.
I don't know exactly what the issue with the keyboard layout is, but my keyboard hasn't changed.
EnhancedIME - AOSP with swipe
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/enhancedime-aosp-latinime-enhancements-t3366639
RogerNZ said:
I don't know exactly what the issue with the keyboard layout is, but my keyboard hasn't changed.
EnhancedIME - AOSP with swipe
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/enhancedime-aosp-latinime-enhancements-t3366639
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It has been stated many times across many threads here at xda regarding the space between the keyboard and the bottom of the phone when using gestures (not a nav bar). When someone is not used to that space, users are hitting it accidentally instead of the spacebar creating many errors in typing. If you are using a navbar this does not apply. The keyboard you are using is not relevant either.
cervantesjc said:
Have you thought of using the stock luncher?...
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Why? I Have android Phone because of the modifications/customizations you can make...
My Evie launcher has options that stock launcher Just doesnt Have. Also the delay doesnt appear on android 9...
JDROIDS said:
@Snowolf940
Well Mr. Snow wolf, "sucks" is a relative term but I found 10.0.0 too buggy for me so I moved back to 9.5.11 and waited for another update.
10.0.1 solved all of the issues that bothered me except that annoying space under the keyboard. That made it so difficult to type for me. I understand the frustration there.
I stumbled upon this awesome fix yesterday here at xda. -100 did it best for me. The -75 was not enough removal of space.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/themes/fix-adb-disable-black-bar-10-0-1-t3987731
I haven't noticed the animation lag on Nova (which I am using) you were speaking about so sorry I can't help with that. But I would genuinely be surprised if it wasn't ironed out in the next update which personally I would guess would be soon.
I hope this helps you. Hang in there man. There will be better days ahead.
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I have heard that this option also cut the toast notifications which is bad
I am just really disappointed with this update. I have thought that the company like Oneplus just can't roll out so unpolished firmware.
Right now iam afraid that going back to 10 will be just waste of time....
+ I also recall that I was not able to turn off the Facebook messenger vibrations without completely turning them off...
Snowolf940 said:
Why? I Have android Phone because of the modifications/customizations you can make...
My Evie launcher has options that stock launcher Just doesnt Have. Also the delay doesnt appear on android 9...
I have heard that this option also cut the toast notifications which is bad
I am just really disappointed with this update. I have thought that the company like Oneplus just can't roll out so unpolished firmware.
Right now iam afraid that going back to 10 will be just waste of time....
+ I also recall that I was not able to turn off the Facebook messenger vibrations without completely turning them off...
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I have not had this issue with the toast notification. I also haven't had the animation issue either. There are users having no problems at all on 10 so maybe you need to investigate more.
My only issue was with the keyboard and that modification fixed it.
You have other companies literally breaking wifi and data with updates so if OnePlus adds a space under the keyboard which has a fix, I think most will think it's okay.
But I would at least try the keyboard fix instead of just complaining when others are giving solutions.
The Facebook thing I don't know because I don't use Facebook and that app is the worst app for a phone known to man.
I've noticed some apps crashing, but I'm rooted so it is what it is. Overall no major issues here
Android auto also fully broken.. it's a shame
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m4ssnet said:
Android auto also fully broken.. it's a shame
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Nope. Tons of people report Android Auto works fine on 10
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Nope. Tons of people report Android Auto works fine on 10
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Please do not disregard the problem only because for most people Android Auto works fine
Same thing with my issues with Android 10.
So after reinstalling it (4th time, full wipe every time ofc), I still have a delay when coming back to the homescreen from my Lanucher (it doesn't matter which 3rd party launcher I use). It's really pissing me off...
Once again, I do not understand comments like "for me everything works fine/ I can't see the problem". That's because either you are lucky one and Oneplus made a version of software especially for you (sarcasm on) or you are unable to see it... So please don't commit to this conversation if you don't have anything interesting to say. We all know that your version of Android 10 is pure perfect (please brag somewhere else)
Snowolf940 said:
Please do not disregard the problem only because for most people Android Auto works fine
Same thing with my issues with Android 10.
So after reinstalling it (4th time, full wipe every time ofc), I still have a delay when coming back to the homescreen from my Lanucher (it doesn't matter which 3rd party launcher I use). It's really pissing me off...
Once again, I do not understand comments like "for me everything works fine/ I can't see the problem". That's because either you are lucky one and Oneplus made a version of software especially for you (sarcasm on) or you are unable to see it... So please don't commit to this conversation if you don't have anything interesting to say. We all know that your version of Android 10 is pure perfect (please brag somewhere else)
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Please do not disregard all if you dont know how to use phone and android 10. My android 10 works just fine, zero problems! Have you even think all problems be caused by you. Stop spamming nosense and just buy iphone
mumuli said:
Please do not disregard all if you dont know how to use phone and android 10. My android 10 works just fine, zero problems! Have you even think all problems be caused by you. Stop spamming nosense and just buy iphone
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Haha! This is hilarious! :good:
I saw that this thread was bumped and I was like, "this dude is still complaining?" :laugh:
I'll report that I'm on ob5 and this is awesome. Android auto running well as is everything else. I guess I avoided the user error bug. I figure, if we have identical phones, and mine works great on the same software another is having issues with, it's either user error or maybe a bad phone and it needs to be replaced? Not sure.
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Haha! This is hilarious! :good:
I saw that this thread was bumped and I was like, "this dude is still complaining?" :laugh:
I'll report that I'm on ob5 and this is awesome. Android auto running well as is everything else. I guess I avoided the user error bug. I figure, if we have identical phones, and mine works great on the same software another is having issues with, it's either user error or maybe a bad phone and it needs to be replaced? Not sure.
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What launcher are you using?
Oh, there's also no delay going to the homescreen on a proper setup. If you want to use gestures on a custom launcher, it has to have quickstep support and you need to use quickswitch to set it as the recents provider
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Oh, there's also no delay going to the homescreen on a proper setup. If you want to use gestures on a custom launcher, it has to have quickstep support and you need to use quickswitch to set it as the recents provider
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What?
Honestly, I am surprised that nobody else has this problem with the delay or "notices" it. Of course I am happy for you! :good:
But unfortunately I also have this problem and it sucks really!
I have had the problem with Lawnchair, but the Nova Launcher also has this problem. Installing QuickSwitch does not help, it says that the launcher is not compatible with it...
That alone makes me think about either going back to Android 9 or trying out a custom Rom. But the problem seems to be widespread on Android 10.
Actually, the Stock Launcher is great, but I don't have the possibility to adjust icon sizes and grid. The presets are not enough. And I really don't like the drawer with this strange semi-transparent background.
At the end, i really hoping so that one or the either probem(s) will be fixed. I'm soo upset because of this crap but i should not be able to be so on such an high priced smartphone really...
Maybe you are mostly on Open Beta 5/6 and that lag is actually fixed?!..
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Honestly, I am surprised that nobody else has this problem with the delay or "notices" it. Of course I am happy for you! :good:
But unfortunately I also have this problem and it sucks really!
I have had the problem with Lawnchair, but the Nova Launcher also has this problem. Installing QuickSwitch does not help, it says that the launcher is not compatible with it...
That alone makes me think about either going back to Android 9 or trying out a custom Rom. But the problem seems to be widespread on Android 10.
Actually, the Stock Launcher is great, but I don't have the possibility to adjust icon sizes and grid. The presets are not enough. And I really don't like the drawer with this strange semi-transparent background.
At the end, i really hoping so that one or the either probem(s) will be fixed. I'm soo upset because of this crap but i should not be able to be so on such an high priced smartphone really...
Maybe you are mostly on Open Beta 5/6 and that lag is actually fixed?!..
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Finally someone is on my side with this case. I have tried custom roms/latest betas but it doesn't change anything...
So the last option is to roll back to Good old android 9 ;(
DJ_BARO said:
Honestly, I am surprised that nobody else has this problem with the delay or "notices" it. Of course I am happy for you! :good:
But unfortunately I also have this problem and it sucks really!
I have had the problem with Lawnchair, but the Nova Launcher also has this problem. Installing QuickSwitch does not help, it says that the launcher is not compatible with it...
That alone makes me think about either going back to Android 9 or trying out a custom Rom. But the problem seems to be widespread on Android 10.
Actually, the Stock Launcher is great, but I don't have the possibility to adjust icon sizes and grid. The presets are not enough. And I really don't like the drawer with this strange semi-transparent background.
At the end, i really hoping so that one or the either probem(s) will be fixed. I'm soo upset because of this crap but i should not be able to be so on such an high priced smartphone really...
Maybe you are mostly on Open Beta 5/6 and that lag is actually fixed?!..
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I have started to notice the lag on launcher when unplugging the phone after using Android Auto.
What fixes it for me is to lock the screen and unlock it again a few times and then if will become responsive again.
This oddly (or not...) also coincides with some server side changes that Google pushed to Android Auto to enable the new features.
Adding here that the theme changes have just gone worse with 10.0.2 - theme follows the car, so if you use a dark theme and the car is in daytime, it will change the theme on the phone to bright when you exit Android Auto.
Also, the audio quality is pretty horrid and still not fixed, but I am experiencing with a workaround and will report when I have more concrete results
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The problem
Hi, I've been experiencing significant interface stuttering whenever an application has been granted accessibility permissions.
Video of the problem
Here is a video demonstrating the issue, read below for technical information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFVKCx5zVmQ
Facts about the problem
Ok so here's what I know so far:
It doesn't matter which service you grant access to, it will lag the same. I've tried LMT, Swipe Navigation, LastPass, TalkBack, and a few more I can't even remember at the moment.
It doesn't matter what ROM or Kernel you are on. I've tried Euphoria with LK and Hydra, rooted stock with stock kernel and LK, and Benzo with whatever the default Benzo kernel is. Doesn't make a single difference.
It does not only affect Relay for Reddit comment collapsing. It also affect Google Newsstand's mini/big card transition, news source transitions, Google Now transitions, basically anywhere there is an animation in the OS I can notice the stuttering.
Anyone else experience this? Any ideas? It is driving me crazy.
I'm not experiencing that
I've used custom roms/kernels almost all of them in the development forum lol
I wonder if maybe it's a particular accessibility itself? I feel like since its needing to be authorized in accessibility that it might be conflicting with something else, who knows?
People usually try booting the phone into safe mode and seeing if maybes its a third party app?
Thats my 2 cents! Hopefully it helps
It has nothing to do with a specific accesibility from what I can feel, stuttering occurs regardless of the app.
I have full wiped several times to test and can't find a solution.
Does anyone else experience this or have any ideas?
Can anybody duplicate this?
Should I RMA?
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Can anybody duplicate this?
Should I RMA?
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adjust your governor/scheduler. me, i like using ondemand/deadline.
simms22 said:
adjust your governor/scheduler. me, i like using ondemand/deadline.
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I've done this when using LK/Hydra, but I am not running stock kernel. None of the adjustments made any noticeable difference unfortunately
I really hate to bump this but the video only has 16 views and I'd love someone else to confirm or deny the same behavior when granting an app accessibility permissions.
If this is common behavior I won't RMA, but if no one else can recreate this I'm going to.
Oh, another thing I noticed: you don't have to test it in an app like Relay for Reddit, you can also do it in the Chrome browser on a site that has a lot of information. What I've noticed is that, when accessibility is granted to any app, visiting XDA forums becomes almost unusable. It takes FOREVER to scroll and when I can scroll it is extremely choppy. Disable the accessibility permission? Completely solves the problem.
You are NOT crazy. I have been searching, seeing if anyone else had this problem. I am using a completely stock Nexus 6 (not rooted), and because of the screen size I have been tinkering with apps to help with one handed use (like pie controls, handy soft keys, etc). They also require accessibility to be enabled. Whenever I install them, I notice (about once every 6-7 times) that when I open my app drawer on Nova launcher, it will half freeze, half stutter. Most of the time it's fine, but once every few times it happens. I haven't paid too much higher attention to whether jt causes stuttering in other apps, but it drives me nuts and so I uninstall the app and go back to stretching my thumb to use the stock nav keys. Wish this would get fixed. Kind of unacceptable for a Nexus - that kind of stuttering is why I don't like using Samsung devices.
Here is the Swipe Navigation developer saying it is definitely a thing in Lollipop with accessibility settings. (screenshot from Play Store comments on Swipe Navigation app). I wish someone could figure this out - I guess we have to wait for Google to do that?
I am using PieControl Pro and I do believe it makes the animations in the Play story stutter when I open a page and use the back button to go back to the app overview. The Play store was never completely smooth no matter what, but when I disable accessibility for PieControl Pro, it becomes a little better. So yeah, accessibility does seem to affect UI performance. I'm on stock Android 5.1 with Franco Kernel.
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You are NOT crazy. I have been searching, seeing if anyone else had this problem. I am using a completely stock Nexus 6 (not rooted), and because of the screen size I have been tinkering with apps to help with one handed use (like pie controls, handy soft keys, etc). They also require accessibility to be enabled. Whenever I install them, I notice (about once every 6-7 times) that when I open my app drawer on Nova launcher, it will half freeze, half stutter. Most of the time it's fine, but once every few times it happens. I haven't paid too much higher attention to whether jt causes stuttering in other apps, but it drives me nuts and so I uninstall the app and go back to stretching my thumb to use the stock nav keys. Wish this would get fixed. Kind of unacceptable for a Nexus - that kind of stuttering is why I don't like using Samsung devices.
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Thank you! I was losing my mind tryingbto figure this out so I opened a support ticket with Google play store and the person who handled my case was able to reproduce it and has made a note of it (whether this means there's an official bug report or not I don't know). He also said this issue cannot be used to RMA, since it wouldn't do anything anyway.
Unless someone can confirm that they DO NOT have this issue.
Im using swipe navigation and I'm noticing stutter as well. Wonder why this happens. Took me a while to figure it out.
Would you mind pointing me to the Google page where you reported this? I would like to star it as well, and follow their updates.
As a follow up, today I decided to tinker around and install pie again. Since the Nova app drawer animation is what I always notice stuttering first, I decided to just turn Nova animations off. Then, I went into Android settings, developer options, and reduced the three animation settings to 0.5x. I may just be seeing what I want to see, but the UI hasn't seemed to stutter with Pie enabled in accessibility (yet). Going to try this for a day or two.
I've gotten the same issues with Lastpass.
Lastpass even states on their site that it's a lollipop issue.
https://lastpass.com/support.php?cmd=showfaq&id=8166
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Thank you! I was losing my mind tryingbto figure this out so I opened a support ticket with Google play store and the person who handled my case was able to reproduce it and has made a note of it (whether this means there's an official bug report or not I don't know). He also said this issue cannot be used to RMA, since it wouldn't do anything anyway.
Unless someone can confirm that they DO NOT have this issue.
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Sorry if this counts as bringing up an old thread, although it's not THAT old
Anyway, I've come here just to corroborate all your findings and confirm that I am also experiencing this ugly bug. A few days ago I installed Greenify which, among other things, asked to enable Accessibility features for it. Thinking nothing of it I did as requested. Next day I start noticing some UI lagginess and choppiness, which was especially noticeable to me in Relay for Reddit since I use it a lot (too much for my own good in fact) and I distinctly remember it had very smooth scrolling between comments just a few days ago. In the mean time, I completely forget I've granted Greenify accessibility control so I went on a mission trying to fix this inexplainable, sudden UI choppiness, by trying to flash a different kernel, trying different governors, dirty flashing my ROM, trying all the other tweaks, and finally doing a factory reset and flashing the stock ROM all over again (luckly I did make a nandroid). Nothing helped. I was at my wits end when I tried searching the app's subreddit for anyone experiencing the same issue and found a comments saying accessibility features were to blame. I felt stupid for not researching it before. However, this bug is very insidious as it just creeps up on you, with no reason. I also don't know how can accessibility features affect UI smoothness this way.
Yes, hopefully will be fixed in M maybe? I haven't checked around to see if those who have installed M preview have checked to see if the bug has been fixed there. Fingers crossed.....
Not fixed in M. Everyone should go star the issue so it gets fixed!
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=2092
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Not fixed in M. Everyone should go star the issue so it gets fixed!
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=2092
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Still isnt fixed ) But my lag rather appears when tapping on any app icon, then it highlights, then go lag, then opening animation starts.
Post this over on reddit and see if you can bring a bit more attention to the issue.
I'm using Nova Launcher with One More Clock as my Clock\Weather widget. I've noticed that the widget does not update the time regularly - i.e. it'll stop updating after some time and it seems to be fairly random. Once it stops, I have to refresh the widget in order for it to update again. I've tried a couple of other widgets and the behaviour is the same, so I'm pretty sure it's not the widget. I've also gone and ensured it is a protected app, but still the non-refresh behaviour continues.
Anyone have any suggestions or ideas? I don't see it with the stock widget on EMUI...
That happens with emui launcher too. All widgets which are not stock stop updating after a certain amount of time.
Works fine for me. Make sure the launcher and the apps are "protected" in the battery settings. If you want regular android behavior just hit protect all in that menu. This allows apps to keep running and update while the screen is off.
The battery saving options are turned on by default with this phone. Under settings/apps/advanced you can also allow apps to ignore battery optimizations.
If you are rooted you can also just freeze the phone manager and powergenie all together to get stuff to update etc (that's what I did)
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Works fine for me. Make sure the launcher and the apps are "protected" in the battery settings. If you want regular android behavior just hit protect all in that menu. This allows apps to keep running and update while the screen is off.
The battery saving options are turned on by default with this phone. Under settings/apps/advanced you can also allow apps to ignore battery optimizations.
If you are rooted you can also just freeze the phone manager and powergenie all together to get stuff to update etc (that's what I did)
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I've done everything you mention except rooting the phone. I want a phone that works without rooting, so I guess the P9 isn't really suitable for me. Too bad, as the hardware and general design of the phone is really good, but EMUI really lets it down. Additionally, I'm not happy with the software update strategy for it either. I'm on build 134 for the P9(EVA-L09) and I've seen builds 136 & 152 in the wild for my device variant and geography, but there seems to be no update for my phone. And I have the green garbled images for a lot of the photos that I take, for which I've been waiting on a fix.
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I've done everything you mention except rooting the phone. I want a phone that works without rooting, so I guess the P9 isn't really suitable for me. Too bad, as the hardware and general design of the phone is really good, but EMUI really lets it down. Additionally, I'm not happy with the software update strategy for it either. I'm on build 134 for the P9(EVA-L09) and I've seen builds 136 & 152 in the wild for my device variant and geography, but there seems to be no update for my phone. And I have the green garbled images for a lot of the photos that I take, for which I've been waiting on a fix.
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I had this issue on FutureRom which i guess waa based on l09.. reverted back to my L19 and the issues don't exist.. might be a buggy PhoneManager is to blame..
But why if you don't mind my asking? I've never used non rooted or non jailbroken phones. You get some nice additional features for free. Every company had phones with broken updates or other issues, if you wanna take things into your own hands and not be dependent on them, you know what to do
Wow that became quite the speech. Sorry :angel:
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I had this issue on FutureRom which i guess waa based on l09.. reverted back to my L19 and the issues don't exist.. might be a buggy PhoneManager is to blame..
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I'm on that rom and nova and my widgets work fine, not noticed any ones not updating. They are all protected as mentioned above though.
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I'm on that rom and nova and my widgets work fine, not noticed any ones not updating. They are all protected as mentioned above though.
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I did protect the apps, but it wasn't working on FutureRom..
Yea, same for me too..
Try to toggle the specific app in phone manager then go to app auto launch
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anyone running nova launcher having an issue getting it to stick as the default launcher... mine refuses to allow this am using nova prime
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anyone running nova launcher having an issue getting it to stick as the default launcher... mine refuses to allow this am using nova prime
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No issues here - have Nova Prime too. Have you checked your settings in Default Applications to see if Nova has been selected?
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No issues here - have Nova Prime too. Have you checked your settings in Default Applications to see if Nova has been selected?
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thanks yes i figured it out after i wrote this in the thread...FACEPALM
Nova Launcher fix
mrsim said:
anyone running nova launcher having an issue getting it to stick as the default launcher... mine refuses to allow this am using nova prime
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There is an easy fix for that mrsim. Go into main phone Settings (not Nova), hit Advanced at bottom of screen, choose Default app settings, choose Launcher, choose Nova Launcher.
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There is an easy fix for that mrsim. Go into main phone Settings (not Nova), hit Advanced at bottom of screen, choose Default app settings, choose Launcher, choose Nova Launcher.
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thanks mate already solved read the post above yours...lol
Any solution for custom widgets on EMUI ?
Edit: Trying Ignore optimization under settings - apps - advanced
Did not work. No matter what, downloaded widgets will not update on EMUI. Really bad!
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Did not work. No matter what, downloaded widgets will not update on EMUI. Really bad!
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Yeah, I've tried all options and nothing seems to work for the widgets I use. I think it may be time to replace the P9!
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Yeah, I've tried all options and nothing seems to work for the widgets I use. I think it may be time to replace the P9!
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It's been working for 24 hours now updating every hour. Protected under battery settings + ignore battery optimizations under "Apps" wasn't enough, but when I also changed CPU from Smart to Performance it seems to be working. I also re-added the widget on the homescreen afterwards to make sure settings worked.
what should I do on kitkat?
I guess this post is more to vent than anything else, but I can't believe how horrible MIUI (both 8.5 and 9) are when it comes to certain things. Basically, my biggest issues are as follows:
1. It's a huge pain to connect a Gear S3. I need to use an older version of Samsung S plugin, as the newest update crashes all the time. I need to disable MIUI optimizations in developer settings just to get it to pair, etc.
2. Gmail notifications! All I get is a '1 new message' then I have to swipe down with two fingers in order to see who the email is from, or what it's about. I'd use a third party email client, but notifications don't work very reliably with any of them that I've tried. Just a mess.
3. LINE. Here in Asia, Japan especially, everyone uses LINE to message each other, somewhat like I imagine people in Europe must use Whatsapp. I have to install an old version of LINE, or else with the latest version, you just get a blank notification in MIUI 8.5, and a blank notification with no sound or vibration in MIUI 9. Again, a huge mess.
I can get around these issues by using RR or Mokee, but things like bluetooth audio (in RR's case) and SafetyNet issues (in Mokee's case) exist, and it's not possible to use Netflix or my bank's apps with any AOSP-based ROM I've tried. Seriously, what a mess. It wasn't a cheap device. I hope they get their act together and release something that works soon, but something tells me that won't happen, and I'll need to wait for some third party AOSP-based rom to come along and save the day. But for now, it just can't be my daily driver.
I've been using MIUI since version 5, and there are things on MIUI that just don't work. The way notifications are viewed is a real pain. Just this last year or so, they finally implemented swipe away notifications on the lock screen. That just shows you how behind they are with simple tasks.
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1. Is a Samsung bug they just fixed.
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1. Is a Samsung bug they just fixed.
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They fixed it? As far as I can tell the recent release a couple days ago broke everything.
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I guess this post is more to vent than anything else, but I can't believe how horrible MIUI (both 8.5 and 9) are when it comes to certain things. Basically, my biggest issues are as follows:
1. It's a huge pain to connect a Gear S3. I need to use an older version of Samsung S plugin, as the newest update crashes all the time. I need to disable MIUI optimizations in developer settings just to get it to pair, etc.
2. Gmail notifications! All I get is a '1 new message' then I have to swipe down with two fingers in order to see who the email is from, or what it's about. I'd use a third party email client, but notifications don't work very reliably with any of them that I've tried. Just a mess.
3. LINE. Here in Asia, Japan especially, everyone uses LINE to message each other, somewhat like I imagine people in Europe must use Whatsapp. I have to install an old version of LINE, or else with the latest version, you just get a blank notification in MIUI 8.5, and a blank notification with no sound or vibration in MIUI 9. Again, a huge mess.
I can get around these issues by using RR or Mokee, but things like bluetooth audio (in RR's case) and SafetyNet issues (in Mokee's case) exist, and it's not possible to use Netflix or my bank's apps with any AOSP-based ROM I've tried. Seriously, what a mess. It wasn't a cheap device. I hope they get their act together and release something that works soon, but something tells me that won't happen, and I'll need to wait for some third party AOSP-based rom to come along and save the day. But for now, it just can't be my daily driver.
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Well i have to admit, i'm not a big fan of Miui either... what f***s me up the most is the huge load of bloatware in almost any corner of it.
Notifications are another issues. I used to have the mate 8 with Emui, so i'm spoiled, because it had more detailed notifications.
duraaraa said:
2. Gmail notifications! All I get is a '1 new message' then I have to swipe down with two fingers in order to see who the email is from, or what it's about. I'd use a third party email client, but notifications don't work very reliably with any of them that I've tried. Just a mess.
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This!
I hate to swipe with two fingers just to see the content of the message.
And I can't swipe notifications away on my Lockscreen either.
MrShibby said:
This!
I hate to swipe with two fingers just to see the content of the message.
And I can't swipe notifications away on my Lockscreen either.
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I just use the material notification shade app and it basically fixes all of the notification issues.
Thanks for the tip, didnt know two fingers worked.
On lock screen I just swipe to right, and the right and it goes away.
Using global locked
duraaraa said:
They fixed it? As far as I can tell the recent release a couple days ago broke everything.
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Source?
SanHelios said:
Well i have to admit, i'm not a big fan of Miui either... what f***s me up the most is the huge load of bloatware in almost any corner of it.
Notifications are another issues. I used to have the mate 8 with Emui, so i'm spoiled, because it had more detailed notifications.
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EU ROM fixes the bloat.
Material Notification Shade is a kludgy fix for the notifications.
animaleyes76 said:
I just use the material notification shade app and it basically fixes all of the notification issues.
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Don't you have the issue of a bottom strip of the screen is unusable with Material Notification Shade? I like this app very much and it somewhat fixes the MIUI notifications issue but this problem is keeping me away from using it on a daily basis. Note that I chose to hide the nav bar on my Mi Mix 2 (using Edge Gestures instead).
aauspitz75 said:
Don't you have the issue of a bottom strip of the screen is unusable with Material Notification Shade? I like this app very much and it somewhat fixes the MIUI notifications issue but this problem is keeping me away from using it on a daily basis. Note that I chose to hide the nav bar on my Mi Mix 2 (using Edge Gestures instead).
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Yeah, if you you use MNS, you cannot hide the Nav bar, else the bottom screen does not respond to taps. That is why I said it is a kludgy fix.
Latest EU rom 7.10.26 has introduced improvements to notifications. Gmail now shows subject and sender, and two finger swipe down shows content.
MIUI is garbage but this phone is great with custom ROM's. Running XenonHD's 10/25 build, toss in adaway and pixel launcher, substratum OMS'd "swift dark" theme, magisk running, viper4arise, android pay even works (bought a candy bar with an nfc payment).
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MIUI is garbage but this phone is great with custom ROM's. Running XenonHD's 10/25 build, toss in adaway and pixel launcher, substratum OMS'd "swift dark" theme, magisk running, viper4arise, android pay even works (bought a candy bar with an nfc payment).
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What is so garbage about miui?
DJSLINKARD said:
What is so garbage about miui?
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Just compare similar apps from Google & Xiaomi.
The calculator is a perfect example,Xiaomi's permissions are well beyond reasonable, laughable if not so intrusive.
Not to mention having Clean Master, it's built-in to MIUI......
Sent from my MI Mix 2 using XDA Labs
KOLIOSIS said:
Just compare similar apps from Google & Xiaomi.
The calculator is a perfect example,Xiaomi's permissions are well beyond reasonable, laughable if not so intrusive.
Not to mention having Clean Master is built-in to MIUI......
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Have you tried the EU ROM?
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Have you tried the EU ROM?
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Yeah,the CleanMaster crap is baked-in to all MIUI,I don't want or need it.
Same with the "Security" garb,who needs it....
Xiaomi isn't alone,Samsung,LG,HTC have the same CleanMaster garbage baked-in as well.
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KOLIOSIS said:
Yeah,the CleanMaster crap is baked-in to all MIUI,I don't want or need it.
Same with the "Security" garb,who needs it....
Xiaomi isn't alone,Samsung,LG,HTC have the same CleanMaster garbage baked-in as well.
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Obviously you have not tried the EU ROM. All the extraneous garbage is stripped out.
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Obviously you have not tried the EU ROM. All the extraneous garbage is stripped out.
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I had it loaded up long enough,MIUI is not for me.
If you want to continue running it,thinking Xiaomi isn't pinging/constantly sending information to who knows where,knock yourself out.
Google is just as guilty w/their suite of apps/services,but for me,easier to manage/keep in check.
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Hello,
I really love my P20 Pro (and also the normal P20 lying around here) but there is one thing that annoys the heck out of me, with both these phones.
I updated them both to the newest version (which is 9.0.0.203 for me, at least for the pro, not sure about the non-pro, but it's up to date as well) and everytime (or at least at 80% of the time) I hit the rectangle recent apps it's just a black screen showing me a slight bar of my background and how much RAM I use. Nothing else. I need to close up the recent apps and open it again, hoping it works that time. (Also added a Screenshot of it down there.)
Anyone has the same problem or a solution to this?
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Hello,
I really love my P20 Pro (and also the normal P20 lying around here) but there is one thing that annoys the heck out of me, with both these phones.
I updated them both to the newest version (which is 9.0.0.203 for me, at least for the pro, not sure about the non-pro, but it's up to date as well) and everytime (or at least at 80% of the time) I hit the rectangle recent apps it's just a black screen showing me a slight bar of my background and how much RAM I use. Nothing else. I need to close up the recent apps and open it again, hoping it works that time. (Also added a Screenshot of it down there.)
Anyone has the same problem or a solution to this?
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Do you use a different launcher than default one? I think it's related to that. Also,after every major upgrade,it's recommended a factory reset(make a backup to your photos,contacts,etc...NOT APPS,only their data) then factory reset the phones. I think you did not do that after upgrading.
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Do you use a different launcher than default one? I think it's related to that. Also,after every major upgrade,it's recommended a factory reset(make a backup to your photos,contacts,etc...NOT APPS,only their data) then factory reset the phones. I think you did not do that after upgrading.
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I use nova launcher. I could try using the stock launcher for a bit and see if that fixes that.
And yeah, I didn't factory reset afterwards. I might try it on the normal P20 first and see if that works.
Only thing I tried was wiping the cache partition but it didn't help with the problem.
Shadow091995 said:
I use nova launcher. I could try using the stock launcher for a bit and see if that fixes that.
And yeah, I didn't factory reset afterwards. I might try it on the normal P20 first and see if that works.
Only thing I tried was wiping the cache partition but it didn't help with the problem.
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The most probable cause is Nova Launcher...it might not be compatible with the new system...remember,that this is not clean android,it's EMUI personalized. Try resetting if changing launcher does not fix the problem.
exodus394 said:
The most probable cause is Nova Launcher...it might not be compatible with the new system...remember,that this is not clean android,it's EMUI personalized. Try resetting if changing launcher does not fix the problem.
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So Huawei really wants you to force you to use their own launcher? I really consider just living on with the bug since I hate ditching nova just because of that, since I've been using it like... 6 or 7 years now.
But I'll try switching to the stock one for a few days and yeah.
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So Huawei really wants you to force you to use their own launcher? I really consider just living on with the bug since I hate ditching nova just because of that, since I've been using it like... 6 or 7 years now.
But I'll try switching to the stock one for a few days and yeah.
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I liked Nova too,it's only an assumption,maybe in a future update of Nova this will be fixed. Maybe it's not EMUI's fault...apps need to be adapted to the new android and customizations from different manufacturers...so...maybe this will be fixed with an update from Nova. Or even from EMUI,but generally,if every other apps work,it might be the app fault,not the system. EMUI is a little different,so some options are not the same with stock android.
Hi all,
For some reason some notifications are not visible on the statusbar.
They can be seen on the Always On display, and if you pull down the statusbar the notifications are visible there, but not on the statusbar itself as an icon.
I noticed that you can configure each app individually to either show or not, but in my case they all are configured to show the icon.
Might this be a bug? Has anyone else this same issue?
Edit: I just found the cause. Some apps have 'categories' in the 'Manage notifications' submenu. You have to click on these categories and in that submenu you have the option 'Display on statusbar'! No idea why some where set to OFF.
Hi,
I found an a french youtuber who had the same issus.
I think it need to be solved by an update.
I have another question for you, i have mine X3 pro but i need to wait til my birthday at the end of April before i can used it ....
Can you give me an short feedback of your feeling with this phone ?
Thanks
deraiz12 said:
Hi,
I found an a french youtuber who had the same issus.
I think it need to be solved by an update.
I have another question for you, i have mine X3 pro but i need to wait til my birthday at the end of April before i can used it ....
Can you give me an short feedback of your feeling with this phone ?
Thanks
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Coming from an S10+ (just like you) you will notice an incredible speed difference. I always believed the S10 was fast (enough). But the Oppo is on a whole new level.
Charging speeds are insane, but that probably is because I have been anti-spoiled by Samsung for so long
It's also worthy to mention that the device doesn't heat up while charging, so it's much more comfortable to hold.
The Oppo is 20 grams or so heavier, which doesn't sound like much, but I really notice it. It's also a bit top heavy, so be careful when holding it
It feels great in your hands though. The back side is indeed fingerprint proof if you get the blue matte version.
The OS has a lot of customization to offer, and I love the (off screen) gestures (I have now also switched from navigation buttons to gestures for navigations).
OneUI has even more options though! Especially if you were using Good Lock. I miss the option to have thumbnails in the task manager. I even miss the bixby button which could be reprogrammed
Face unlock is really fast, as is the FP unlock. If you hold the sensor after unlocking you get a shortcut to 5 favorite apps.
It's a great way to open your hue app or a remote, I just keep forgetting about it and release too soon
Oh, the screen protector is terrible, especially if you want to use the gestures you always move your finger over the edge and it doesn't feel comfortable. So I ripped it off.
Finally I tried out the native launcher, but reverted back to Nova quickly. It's not possible to replace the folder icons by a custom icon.
latino147 said:
Coming from an S10+ (just like you) you will notice an incredible speed difference. I always believed the S10 was fast (enough). But the Oppo is on a whole new level.
Charging speeds are insane, but that probably is because I have been anti-spoiled by Samsung for so long
It's also worthy to mention that the device doesn't heat up while charging, so it's much more comfortable to hold.
The Oppo is 20 grams or so heavier, which doesn't sound like much, but I really notice it. It's also a bit top heavy, so be careful when holding it
It feels great in your hands though. The back side is indeed fingerprint proof if you get the blue matte version.
The OS has a lot of customization to offer, and I love the (off screen) gestures (I have now also switched from navigation buttons to gestures for navigations).
OneUI has even more options though! Especially if you were using Good Lock. I miss the option to have thumbnails in the task manager. I even miss the bixby button which could be reprogrammed
Face unlock is really fast, as is the FP unlock. If you hold the sensor after unlocking you get a shortcut to 5 favorite apps.
It's a great way to open your hue app or a remote, I just keep forgetting about it and release too soon
Oh, the screen protector is terrible, especially if you want to use the gestures you always move your finger over the edge and it doesn't feel comfortable. So I ripped it off.
Finally I tried out the native launcher, but reverted back to Nova quickly. It's not possible to replace the folder icons by a custom icon.
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Thank you so much for your feedback. I'm more impatient now ! It sound great.
And last question (I promise ) the native apps is it from Google (Gmail, chrome, Google calendar,...) ? Or Oppo (like Samsung mail or Samsung calandar version Oppo ) ? Thanks again
It has a lot of Google apps builtin. I didn't really see many Oppo equivalents.
However, some apps can't be uninstalled, which I hate. Think Facebook.
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It has a lot of Google apps builtin. I didn't really see many Oppo equivalents.
However, some apps can't be uninstalled, which I hate. Think Facebook.
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Thank you. Have a nice day.
latino147 said:
It has a lot of Google apps builtin. I didn't really see many Oppo equivalents.
However, some apps can't be uninstalled, which I hate. Think Facebook.
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Just use adb tot debloat the things you want to remove ;-)
patensas said:
Just use adb tot debloat the things you want to remove ;-)
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I have no use for BREENO[in Chinese] or Hey Tap[ seems to replace a familiar Android System admin app] .. Cannot use Google1 to restore old SMS/MMS from my Oneplus5. Cannot select new default messaging app [ TEXTRA] . Cannot , or cannot recall how to select default Launcher [EVIE]. Hope we get ROMs here eventually so to have it behave more like a OnePlus /US phone than a Chinese phone.
Help!
latino147 said:
Coming from an S10+ (just like you) you will notice an incredible speed difference. I always believed the S10 was fast (enough). But the Oppo is on a whole new level.
Charging speeds are insane, but that probably is because I have been anti-spoiled by Samsung for so long
It's also worthy to mention that the device doesn't heat up while charging, so it's much more comfortable to hold.
The Oppo is 20 grams or so heavier, which doesn't sound like much, but I really notice it. It's also a bit top heavy, so be careful when holding it
It feels great in your hands though. The back side is indeed fingerprint proof if you get the blue matte version.
The OS has a lot of customization to offer, and I love the (off screen) gestures (I have now also switched from navigation buttons to gestures for navigations).
OneUI has even more options though! Especially if you were using Good Lock. I miss the option to have thumbnails in the task manager. I even miss the bixby button which could be reprogrammed
Face unlock is really fast, as is the FP unlock. If you hold the sensor after unlocking you get a shortcut to 5 favorite apps.
It's a great way to open your hue app or a remote, I just keep forgetting about it and release too soon
Oh, the screen protector is terrible, especially if you want to use the gestures you always move your finger over the edge and it doesn't feel comfortable. So I ripped it off.
Finally I tried out the native launcher, but reverted back to Nova quickly. It's not possible to replace the folder icons by a custom icon.
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default Launcher? I haven't set one for a couple of years, but now I cannot seem to figure how to choose my own preferred [Evie] , or why I cannot set default Messaging App [Textra], or get back my SMS/MMS that are backed up by Google1 to G-Drive.
How did you get Nova as chosen default Launcher?
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default Launcher? I haven't set one for a couple of years, but now I cannot seem to figure how to choose my own preferred [Evie] , or why I cannot set default Messaging App [Textra], or get back my SMS/MMS that are backed up by Google1 to G-Drive.
How did you get Nova as chosen default Launcher?
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I just installed Nova and it set itself as the default.
But if you go to settings and type default app then you can set all the default apps too.
p1gnone said:
I have no use for BREENO[in Chinese] or Hey Tap[ seems to replace a familiar Android System admin app] .. Cannot use Google1 to restore old SMS/MMS from my Oneplus5. Cannot select new default messaging app [ TEXTRA] . Cannot , or cannot recall how to select default Launcher [EVIE]. Hope we get ROMs here eventually so to have it behave more like a OnePlus /US phone than a Chinese phone.
Help!
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Where did you buy your phone? I guess you have a Chinese OS Version?
I have no Breeno, no textra or Hey Tap.
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I just installed Nova and it set itself as the default.
But if you go to settings and type default app then you can set all the default apps too.
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Example: Settings, Messaging App: only shows choice Oppo-native, installed one. In Textra it prompts to make it default,, but sending a message results in the device declaring for some security reason it is resetting default to OPPO-native. BTW, OPPO-native is a low function featurelss app.
Launcher: old OnePlus5 in Default Apps has category: Home app [Launcher selection] , nothing like it in the choices under Default Apps on the FindX3pro
Google1 blocked from backing up MMS
My preferred File Manager: ES File Explorer pro lets me attempt to attach my G-Drive [cloud], passes through all the steps correctly, only to conclude "Auth Failed". The g-dive is fully accessible using the Google Drive app, but integration with ES is convenient, has been for years.
Any idea on how to address 'security issues' for either messaging or ES File Explorer?
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Where did you buy your phone? I guess you have a Chinese OS Version?
I have no Breeno, no textra or Hey Tap.
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Exactly, AliExpress straight from China. Language: English fine, but perhaps I was sloppy not being sure of a "Global version" . Any thoughts? Patience: Wait for rooting and ROMs?
Where did you get yours? Version?
Textra? I installed. My preferred Messaging App [ LOL, not OPPO's clearly]
p1gnone said:
Exactly, AliExpress straight from China. Language: English fine, but perhaps I was sloppy not being sure of a "Global version" . Any thoughts? Patience: Wait for rooting and ROMs?
Where did you get yours? Version?
Textra? I installed. My preferred Messaging App [ LOL, not OPPO's clearly]
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I got one from my provider in Holland. International version.
Maybe it is possible to update it with an international ROM? I don't know if the connectivity is working fine too, 4G, 5G?
latino147 said:
I got one from my provider in Holland. International version.
Maybe it is possible to update it with an international ROM? I don't know if the connectivity is working fine too, 4G, 5G?
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Sure look forward to giving it a try. Not even sure if there are tiny differences that would make the intl-ROM incompatible. I'm getting OTAs but the Chinese ones I think
[4G coverage good, not noticed or had 5G yet].
Over the last 4yrs I think I only took OTA from OnePlus & rooted it. The 4yrs prior the lock on the Samsung Note4 was never 'broken', Then 3 yrs prior with the Samsung Galaxy Captivate I sure enjoyed XDA-roms & rooting, but that was long ago, & I'm still dependent on skills of others.
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Sure look forward to giving it a try. Not even sure if there are tiny differences that would make the intl-ROM incompatible. I'm getting OTAs but the Chinese ones I think
[4G coverage good, not noticed or had 5G yet].
Over the last 4yrs I think I only took OTA from OnePlus & rooted it. The 4yrs prior the lock on the Samsung Note4 was never 'broken', Then 3 yrs prior with the Samsung Galaxy Captivate I sure enjoyed XDA-roms & rooting, but that was long ago, & I'm still dependent on skills of others.
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I quit custom roms after the S7. And that one had a OneUI based 'optimized' ROM.
Maybe you can try this (I haven't just saw it yesterday in my ColorOS telegram group)
Oppo ColorOS System Launcher [v11.3.520]
New ColorOS System Launcher update – v11.3.520 for OPPO devices: OPPO officially announced the new ColorOS skin version. The new interface brings visual changes including app icon redesign and customization options. The Android 12-based ColorOS 12 brings tons of new features such as enhanced...
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Anyone have phone getting hot when y play a while?! Not playing game,just normal like chatting with someone or open page watch some news
paullu said:
Anyone have phone getting hot when y play a while?! Not playing game,just normal like chatting with someone or open page watch some news
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Not here
correct temperature, but some have problem. Snapdragon has a problem on MI11, Oppo Find X3, One Plus One.
latino147 said:
I just installed Nova and it set itself as the default.
But if you go to settings and type default app then you can set all the default apps too.
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Problem with Nova or any custom launcher on any Android 11 phone is that the navigation gestures dont work properly, there is a screen flicker issue when you swipe to go to homescreen. Thats why i am stuck with stock launcher on any new phone i get.