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This is probably a stupid question but I'll ask it anyway. I've noticed my phone draining lately (or maybe it's not, I'm not quite sure what the battery life used to be xD), and I recently overclocked my phone to 1.25 GHz (my profile on SetCPU is ondemand), does overclocking affect the battery that much?
I run Froyo (rooted with wifi fix and the 1.25 GHz kernal)
I'm using an ultra low voltage kernal at 1ghz and haven't noticed a difference, if anything it seems like it's better.
I guess it probably largely depends on what kernal.
I've been overclocked for 4+ months. The first month before I rooted, I was getting around 16-18 hours on a full charge at the stock 550 speed. After I rooted, a lot depended on the rom (lesser so) and the kernel (more so). I think the best performance I got was on ChevyNo1's SS rom (2.1) with one of his kernels ... 40+ hours overclocked conservatively at 800. My first shot some time back with CyanogenMod got me 3 hours with the early Bekit kernels but the past several versions up through 5.0.8 I was getting about 30 hours clocked at 800 with a jdlfg kernel. Now on Froyo I'm getting close to 30 hours again conservatively at 800-1000 ... which on a 2.2. rom is more like 1200+ since its faster.
So, in short, my battery life has significantly improved while running faster than stock. But no 2 Droids are identical in terms of how a rom and/or kernel perform. With 2.1 roms my Droid seems to like jdlfg's kernels, while on 2.2 the P3droid kernels do good. But that's what I found out via a lot of trial and error, not anyone's post saying "You must try ______'s kernel (or rom) as its da bomb!"
I would like to include that the post above by "cvhovey" provides some valuable information that might interest you and suggest anyone untreated in this thread to read that post.
Using an application like SetCPU you can throttle down the processor speed when the screen is off, this reducing heat and gaining better battery life. This doesn't mean you will get better battery life if you use your phone all day and never turn the screen off. But is totally worth it because u feel like I'm getting awesome battery life, plus an amazingly fast phone because SetCPU will overall me to my personal preference of 1100mhz on demand.
The answer to your actual question depends on how well you set up your phone preferences according to what benefits you the most, and what method of adjusting processor speed. I only mentioned one here, there are mire ways than just an APK.
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Using an application like SetCPU ...
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1+ on that. But how one uses SetCPU can also make big differences, such as which governor is selected. SetCPU at 400-1250 with the Performance governor will essentially run at its highest speed all of the time (if I'm correct), whereas with the Conservative governor will ramp up from 400 to 1250 at a slower pace, or at a faster face with Ondemand.
This thread can give you some helpful tips: Battery Saving Techniques - Theories in Test
Alright, thank you for your help ^^
i used SetCPU and my phone had continuously reboots...
I just had to uninstall it..
Were you using profiles in any way? A specific ROM? I've had similar a experience with certain ROMs (specifically UltimateDroid).
Best guess is that it just didn't play nice with the modded kernel.
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Hey all,
My phone is rooted. I'm wondering how Overclocking might effect battery life. Better? Worse?
Also, what is a solid speed to OC on the Captivate?
It will be worse, but if you do UV it will last a bit longer...
Battery life will go down, but its by such a small amount, you wont even notice it(depending on how much you OC it)
and stable OC values will be different for every phone since all processors are not made equal. For example, my max stable overclock is at 1.2ghz, but my friend was stable at 1.4 with undervolting by 100.
You really just need to play around with it and find what works for you.
If you really want a solid stable number, im pretty sure every captivate I've seen can go up to atleast 1.2 ghz.
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It will be worse, but if you do UV it will last a bit longer...
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That is very untrue. I read an article (for the life of me can't find it) that overclocking is actually better for battery life. I have in fact had better results on my LG Optimus V with overclocking at 806mHz (highest stable clock setting) than with 600mHz (standard). LeslieAnn (Harmonia dev) linked to the aforementioned article in one of her posts. If I find the link I will post it.
I've only OC a couple of times but 1200Mhz should be stable for the majority of phones out there. The most I've got out of my phone was 1440Mhz on MIUI with Glitch kernel, while my friend was able to hit 1600Mhz with same rom and kernel. It took me quite a bit to figure out what voltages for what steps etc to get it to work well so if you do not feel like tinkering with it for a long while I wouldn't try to push your OC too high.
Battery life doesn't usually decrease unless you over volt. That being said most Galaxy S will get 1.2ghz-1.3ghz on stock voltage. Usually a good idea to undervolt most "steps" except the high clocks (1ghz+) but this varies on phone, rom, kernel, etc.
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Battery life doesn't usually decrease unless you over volt. That being said most Galaxy S will get 1.2ghz-1.3ghz on stock voltage. Usually a good idea to undervolt most "steps" except the high clocks (1ghz+) but this varies on phone, rom, kernel, etc.
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ohh... i thought that said undervolt... but over clocking as well will make it decrease some.
If you ran faster you would burn more energy in the same amount of time. (over clocking)
If you reduced the weight of your legs or gravity you would burn less energy. (under volting).
Most people dont notice battery drain when overclocked because the processor speed doesnt run full speed all the time. it governs to different speeds for what it needs to do.
go stock speed and play a game till it drops to a percentage.
recharge
overclock with NO undervolting and play the game again till the same percentage.
less time. guaranteed.
just sitting at the homescreen and flipping through your app drawer and using face book wont kick your phone into high gear, with stock or overclocking. you will never notice.
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ohh... i thought that said undervolt... but over clocking as well will make it decrease some.
If you ran faster you would burn more energy in the same amount of time. (over clocking)
If you reduced the weight of your legs or gravity you would burn less energy. (under volting).
Most people dont notice battery drain when overclocked because the processor speed doesnt run full speed all the time. it governs to different speeds for what it needs to do.
go stock speed and play a game till it drops to a percentage.
recharge
overclock with NO undervolting and play the game again till the same percentage.
less time. guaranteed.
just sitting at the homescreen and flipping through your app drawer and using face book wont kick your phone into high gear, with stock or overclocking. you will never notice.
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I have my phone and nook's clocking speed set at the same for min/max settings. I play a mean game of RUA and AirAttack HD. I've in fact timed my battery life on standard clock settings and my overclocking. While overclocked, my nook lasted 10 minutes longer than at standard speeds (while playing AirAttack HD, which has intense 3D graphics). And you might suggest I undervolted, but I never touch that stuff. My volting stays where it is.
so, i am using the Fear Rom and with the OC karnel. i played around the max sittings to 1.4 and tried quadarant. amazing score of 4150. nice... but what will happen if i keep it at 1.4 ?
will it over heat the phone / burn the GPU/CPU when playing games for example ?
i understand the battery life will be shorter. but what other disdvantages ?
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so, i am using the Fear Rom and with the OC karnel. i played around the max sittings to 1.4 and tried quadarant. amazing score of 4150. nice... but what will happen if i keep it at 1.4 ?
will it over heat the phone / burn the GPU/CPU when playing games for example ?
i understand the battery life will be shorter. but what other disdvantages ?
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You could dmg ur cpu. But Tegra is known to run 1.8Ghz stable. So with 1.4 you should be good.
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Oh!! Great 1.8Ghz but only 1.4Ghz is very drain my battery to much.
In the long run, your cpu might get affected but its shouldn't happen so soon.
That said, in my honest opinion, don't need to OC the chip.
The same OCing rules apply from the PC World. The same batch of chips have varying maximum OCing capabilities and thus different stabilities. Although you can stably run a chip at a higher clock, it will definitely shorten its life (Sometimes it could kill it in a year, sometimes beyond what we can measure.). Chip makers purposefully OC chips during tests to simulate the stress effects of using the chip over a long period of time (OCing that makes it seem like the chip is being used for months or years.). Nvidia sticks the Tegra at 1 GHz half because it's cheaper to do so (don't need to ensure higher clock rates which would mean a larger percentage of their chips won't last doing it.) and half because of marketing (At the time, no one has 1.2 GHz like we do now. From what I've seen, Tegra 2 can do 1.2 GHz easy.).
So what it comes down to is how long you plan on keeping the phone and how lucky you are. =)
Imo, in the interest of power savings (P = (V^2)/R), the gains of OCing having an exponentially worse effect on battery life.
imho theres currently no point in oc'ing the Tegra2 in Optimus at all.
Theres no real life benefit, only theoretical benefit when running benchmark apps for show off.
Theres not a single application or game out there today that require more processing power than what the Tegra delivers at 1ghz - and not a single one out there that will run any better or faster by oc'ing because the demand for processing power to run the application or game at its maximum capacity are allready met at 1ghz
Basically there are only negatives in terms of decreased battery and cpu life for nothing but a screenshot of a higher quadrant (or whatever) score
If at some time in the future you should run into a game that would not run smoothly unless the cpu are oc'ed then it would make sence to do so - but for now not.
The games available today either do run perfectly smooth at 1ghz or if they dont, then they dont because of poor programming or other factors and they would still run poorly even if the cpu are oc'ed
Actually there are real life benefits until you find a game which really lags when you run it. Meaning, you should leave it as it is until next year.
It may damage the CPU like what others say but since lower clocks are undervolt it might last as long as a non OC (Stock).
But it will kill the battery faster as you will have to charge more often due to the higher power draws.
Anyone using SetCPU to throttle the device and get tolerable battery life?
I wish. Not on Verizon!
Bump!!
I just started using trickster mod and set max frequency to about 2.0GHz. The battery life has increased with no lag. On Lollipop.
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I just started using trickster mod and set max frequency to about 2.0GHz. The battery life has increased with no lag. On Lollipop.
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What did you have to do to get trickster working? Just download it? It works straight from the market? H3lp!
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What did you have to do to get trickster working? Just download it? It works straight from the market? H3lp!
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Yeah just download it. You will have to download a busybox installer if you don't have busybox installed as well.
Awesome thanks. What mods and settings have you found useful?
Anyone has had success tweaking new Moto X with SetCPU?
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Anyone has had success tweaking new Moto X with SetCPU?
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SetCPU caused major lag for me personally.. I switched to trickstermod and all seems fine so far
I'm using No Frills, working great across 422MHz - 1GHz ( hardcore testing )
I have never noticed any battery improvement from underclocking, and correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the general consensus (among those actually informed) was that it doesn't actually help because it causes the processor to take longer to complete tasks, canceling out any actual gains.
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I have never noticed any battery improvement from underclocking, and correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the general consensus (among those actually informed) was that it doesn't actually help because it causes the processor to take longer to complete tasks, canceling out any actual gains.
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After testing for a day almost, I'll say that's crap.. I'm running this guy comfortably at 0.8GHz with ultra small lags, see the battery for yourself. I used to get 4-4.5 hours of max screen on running it untampered and now this damn battery won't die!
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After testing for a day almost, I'll say that's crap.. I'm running this guy comfortably at 0.8GHz with ultra small lags, see the battery for yourself. I used to get 4-4.5 hours of max screen on running it untampered and now this damn battery won't die!
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Yeah I dunno man, I'm not underclocked and I can probably get 8+hrs SOT as well if all I'm doing is web browsing and reading. I mean, I average around 6-7hrs SOT on mine (still on 4.4.4) depending on what I'm doing. Everybody's usage patterns are different, which is why I don't trust SOT screen shots. Plus, there is nothing in your second screenshot that shows any actual usage. You have screen, cell standby, wifi, android system... I'm not seeing any apps in there which leads me to believe that isn't a heavy usage scenario for you.
And again, I have underclocked before with many, many devices and haven't seen any actual gains. Also, I have yet to see any actual empirical evidence that shows underclocking helps. Couple that with the fact that many people who are well versed in this stuff (including the CyanogenMod team) have come forward and said that any gains from underclocking are placebo due to the reason I stated before, and I am HIGHLY skeptical.
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Yeah I dunno man, I'm not underclocked and I can probably get 8+hrs SOT as well if all I'm doing is web browsing and reading. I mean, I average around 6-7hrs SOT on mine (still on 4.4.4) depending on what I'm doing. Everybody's usage patterns are different, which is why I don't trust SOT screen shots. Plus, there is nothing in your second screenshot that shows any actual usage. You have screen, cell standby, wifi, android system... I'm not seeing any apps in there which leads me to believe that isn't a heavy usage scenario for you.
And again, I have underclocked before with many, many devices and haven't seen any actual gains. Also, I have yet to see any actual empirical evidence that shows underclocking helps. Couple that with the fact that many people who are well versed in this stuff (including the CyanogenMod team) have come forward and said that any gains from underclocking are placebo due to the reason I stated before, and I am HIGHLY skeptical.
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The reason there's no specific apps you see is because I did what you do in a typical battery test, gaming a bit, reading ,browsing and all the others... So the individual. consumption is well b below 5%.. But yeah even without underclocking i have gotten even 5.5hours which is not bad at all
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Yeah I dunno man, I'm not underclocked and I can probably get 8+hrs SOT as well if all I'm doing is web browsing and reading. I mean, I average around 6-7hrs SOT on mine (still on 4.4.4) depending on what I'm doing. Everybody's usage patterns are different, which is why I don't trust SOT screen shots. Plus, there is nothing in your second screenshot that shows any actual usage. You have screen, cell standby, wifi, android system... I'm not seeing any apps in there which leads me to believe that isn't a heavy usage scenario for you.
And again, I have underclocked before with many, many devices and haven't seen any actual gains. Also, I have yet to see any actual empirical evidence that shows underclocking helps. Couple that with the fact that many people who are well versed in this stuff (including the CyanogenMod team) have come forward and said that any gains from underclocking are placebo due to the reason I stated before, and I am HIGHLY skeptical.
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You can be sceptical because you should be, the cpu throttles already and only uses max speed when needed. With light usage like me (WhatsApp, telegram, 20m phone calls and some mails a day) I get 4 days on 4g and wifi. (I turn my phone on flight mode during the night) I've also disabled moto application (voice is useless in Dutch/not working) The biggest energy consumer is the screen so change your wallpaper to a dark one and close unused background apps (moto voice, google now, virus scanner and all other useless apps. If you use all the social media out there on your phone, no battery capacity is sufficient. I could limit my max cpu speed because the cpu governor probably throttles to max even when launching undemanding apps, but I would probably won't notice any savings.
So I was wandering if you're happy with your phones as of right now. I've always dreamed of having a stock Nexus device, and finally I god mine 1 year ago, and honestly lately I've been a little disappointed. I'm running stock android, no root, it's completely untouched. I've tried some ROMs like PureNexus, but I switched back to stock. Lately I found this phone extremely laggy in random situations, even when not performing heavy tasks. Also the phone gets EXTREMELY hot extremely easily, and when it's hot it lags even more to the point it's barely usable. When it is charging it becomes soooo sooooo slow and super hot, I'm almost forced to stop using it. Am I the only one experiencing these issues? Are you disappointed with your phone too?
you do realize that by running stock, you are stuck with the stock cpu setup? and thats where big differences come from, how you set up your cpu. with the way i have my cpu set up, my n6 is never choppy nor even slughtly slow.. never. my n6 is the beast that everyone wants.
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So I was wandering if you're happy with your phones as of right now. I've always dreamed of having a stock Nexus device, and finally I god mine 1 year ago, and honestly lately I've been a little disappointed. I'm running stock android, no root, it's completely untouched. I've tried some ROMs like PureNexus, but I switched back to stock. Lately I found this phone extremely laggy in random situations, even when not performing heavy tasks. Also the phone gets EXTREMELY hot extremely easily, and when it's hot it lags even more to the point it's barely usable. When it is charging it becomes soooo sooooo slow and super hot, I'm almost forced to stop using it. Am I the only one experiencing these issues? Are you disappointed with your phone too?
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All devices are a little different... I'm running N preview 3... And I'm completely satisfied, runs amazing for a two year old device.
Here is the main schedule of how I use my device:
In the morning, I charge up to around 80-90%. The device is off. By the end of the day, it's normally at around 30-40%. I don't game, and don't use my phone for much other than texting, social media, and the occasional web browsing/googling.
Mine does get warm at times and hot while charging, but that's expected of any electronic device. Try a charger with a lower wattage.
All the lagginess that I've run into always occurs with extended periods of use. Try shutting the phone off at night and not leaving it on charge all night. Also, a complete internal storage wipe won't do any harm .
An amazing app to help performance, battery life, and overheating is Greenify. It is literally the only app that I use root access for (I would totally root just to use this app). I kinda use it a bit obsessively, manually hibernating every time I leave an app, even though I have auto-hibernation enabled. Know which apps are memory hogs. Make sure to keep your eye on them (snapchat, facebook, etc.).
Hope I helped, may have gone a bit overboard on answering this.
Cheers!
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you do realize that by running stock, you are stuck with the stock cpu setup? and thats where big differences come from, how you set up your cpu. with the way i have my cpu set up, my n6 is never choppy nor even slughtly slow.. never. my n6 is the beast that everyone wants.
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How's your CPU set up? And does your setting compromise battery?
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How's your CPU set up? And does your setting compromise battery?
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no, no comprising battery. but im more after performance, since i get 5h sot no matter what. i use the ondemand governor(98 up threshold and 15000 sampling rate) with the deadline scheduler. everything else that i do isnt as important than setting my governor/scheduler. i have it set to hand around the lower cpu when not doing much, then jumping to top cpu speed as soon as its needed.
I hate my nexus 6 when I charge it, I cant use it super slow I'm going to change it with xiaomi redmi note 3 pro soon. 209 euros for a beast
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I hate my nexus 6 when I charge it, I cant use it super slow I'm going to change it with xiaomi redmi note 3 pro soon. 209 euros for a beast
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67447224/
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no, no comprising battery. but im more after performance, since i get 5h sot no matter what. i use the ondemand governor(98 up threshold and 15000 sampling rate) with the deadline scheduler. everything else that i do isnt as important than setting my governor/scheduler. i have it set to hand around the lower cpu when not doing much, then jumping to top cpu speed as soon as its needed.
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So if I install cyanogenmod 13 could you help me set the way you did? I mean just tell me in which menu I should go and what I should modify. It would be greatly appreciated! I usually get 3h of screentime, you get 2 hours more, that's amazing. Also could you tell me what kernel should I use with cyanogenmod 13?
I'm just shaking my head. I've never had these problems. Lagginess?? Nope. I get pretty good battery life and I've really only used 3 ROMs; Chroma, Purte Nexus and now the setup in my signature. for the last few months
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I'm just shaking my head. I've never had these problems. Lagginess?? Nope. I get pretty good battery life and I've really only used 3 ROMs; Chroma, Purte Nexus and now the setup in my signature. for the last few months
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Do you think that Pure Nexus or cyanogenmod are better than stock? What settings should I change after installing new ROMs to get the best performance/battery?
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Do you think that Pure Nexus or cyanogenmod are better than stock? What settings should I change after installing new ROMs to get the best performance/battery?
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I can only speak for Pure Nexus (Especially the new build on 6/21), but it smokes the stock ROM from Google. Very smooth scrolling, fluid animations, fast app opening....It's just better imho.
Gotta remember, this phone is 1.5 years old...While it was spec heavy when it came out, time is catching up with it
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Do you think that Pure Nexus or cyanogenmod are better than stock? What settings should I change after installing new ROMs to get the best performance/battery?
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There is no best.. That's why no one is answering g you.. Its user dependent we all use them differently
The phone is great at full battery. Anything above 40 percent. Under that... Not as good. Speakers crackle, CPU cores shut down and no matter what I do I can't override it. It gets super bad at about 20 percent where I have to raise the clock speed to 1.7 ghz from the 1 GHz I run normally since it is a stuttery mess that slow on 2 cores. So, for me the battery saving features make the battery life worse. Not to mention battery life is so random. I'll get a day and a half or more one day and the next not even get 12 hours. Doing very similar things, very similar screen on time of about 3 hours. The highest screen on time I got was 4 or 5 hours with pure nexus, but I'm on cyanogemod now and it doesn't last more than about 3 and a half often.
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The phone is great at full battery. Anything above 40 percent. Under that... Not as good. Speakers crackle, CPU cores shut down and no matter what I do I can't override it. It gets super bad at about 20 percent where I have to raise the clock speed to 1.7 ghz from the 1 GHz I run normally since it is a stuttery mess that slow on 2 cores. So, for me the battery saving features make the battery life worse. Not to mention battery life is so random. I'll get a day and a half or more one day and the next not even get 12 hours. Doing very similar things, very similar screen on time of about 3 hours. The highest screen on time I got was 4 or 5 hours with pure nexus, but I'm on cyanogemod now and it doesn't last more than about 3 and a half often.
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sounds like its an issue with your set up? why the heck would you buy a nexys 6 only to lower its performance to a dual core? i use my n6 every day to its max. i set up my cpu to work like a beast! but, no matter what, i ALWAYS see at the very least 5 hours sot. anyways, what it sounds like is that you need to learn to set up your device a bit better, like screen brightness.. do you realize that the screen uses more battery than any other part of the phone? i keep my brightness at about 5%. and for every 30% i raise it, i lose 1 hour sot. anyways, theres just so much other stuff to try out.
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sounds like its an issue with your set up? why the heck would you buy a nexys 6 only to lower its performance to a dual core? i use my n6 every day to its max. i set up my cpu to work like a beast! but, no matter what, i ALWAYS see at the very least 5 hours sot. anyways, what it sounds like is that you need to learn to set up your device a bit better, like screen brightness.. do you realize that the screen uses more battery than any other part of the phone? i keep my brightness at about 5%. and for every 30% i raise it, i lose 1 hour sot. anyways, theres just so much other stuff to try out.
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No I don't put it at dual core. It's just that at 20% or less battery the phone shuts 2 cores off.
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and to be fair.... A dual core Nexus 6 still smokes the ancient droid RAZR m I had before this.
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No I don't put it at dual core. It's just that at 20% or less battery the phone shuts 2 cores off.
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and to be fair.... A dual core Nexus 6 still smokes the ancient droid RAZR m I had before this.
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ahh, sorry.. i thought you weakened it yourself, my bad. it just lowers the cpu speed to 19xxmhz. at 40%, it gets lowered to 22xxmhz. but ill be honest, its a rare day when my phone goes under 50%, usually its on thd charger by that time.
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Do you think that Pure Nexus or cyanogenmod are better than stock? What settings should I change after installing new ROMs to get the best performance/battery?
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I've learned that pretty much anything aosp based is pretty much the winner in terms of performance and stability and just overall because there's less stuff going on... Chroma or Pure Nexus is the heaviest I would go.
And use Greenify! I explained it in my earlier response...
Franco kernel was pretty sick when I used it with Chroma and I got awesome battery life with practically stock settings. I think the only thing I did was have the cpu underclock at 25%... But I rarely ever got to below 40%...
And there's always battery saving mode!
I always get decent performance no matter what I'm doing because the N6 is such a beast
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Do you think that Pure Nexus or cyanogenmod are better than stock? What settings should I change after installing new ROMs to get the best performance/battery?
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I don't do anything special. I usually use the kernel with the stock settings that comes with whichever ROM I'm on. I remove bloat and apps I don't use. When I was running stock/rooted, I'd use a custom kernel but again with the default settings
You try ondemand on b14ckb1rd kernel ......
4h+ screen on and very good performance!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t3ku0q7msavbonu/Screenshot_20160622-002517.png?dl=0
So I really like the performance of this phone. It's fast and good, and the camera is adequate... Until things go south and I want to smash it against a wall. Mostly the problems start when battery drops under 40%. While I know cores get disabled, and performance gets limited, it's just horrible. From what I understand flashing a custom rom will make things more manageable? I've flashed ROMs in the past and had positive experiences with CM. Will Cm13 do the job?