So I was wandering if you're happy with your phones as of right now. I've always dreamed of having a stock Nexus device, and finally I god mine 1 year ago, and honestly lately I've been a little disappointed. I'm running stock android, no root, it's completely untouched. I've tried some ROMs like PureNexus, but I switched back to stock. Lately I found this phone extremely laggy in random situations, even when not performing heavy tasks. Also the phone gets EXTREMELY hot extremely easily, and when it's hot it lags even more to the point it's barely usable. When it is charging it becomes soooo sooooo slow and super hot, I'm almost forced to stop using it. Am I the only one experiencing these issues? Are you disappointed with your phone too?
you do realize that by running stock, you are stuck with the stock cpu setup? and thats where big differences come from, how you set up your cpu. with the way i have my cpu set up, my n6 is never choppy nor even slughtly slow.. never. my n6 is the beast that everyone wants.
leongunblade said:
So I was wandering if you're happy with your phones as of right now. I've always dreamed of having a stock Nexus device, and finally I god mine 1 year ago, and honestly lately I've been a little disappointed. I'm running stock android, no root, it's completely untouched. I've tried some ROMs like PureNexus, but I switched back to stock. Lately I found this phone extremely laggy in random situations, even when not performing heavy tasks. Also the phone gets EXTREMELY hot extremely easily, and when it's hot it lags even more to the point it's barely usable. When it is charging it becomes soooo sooooo slow and super hot, I'm almost forced to stop using it. Am I the only one experiencing these issues? Are you disappointed with your phone too?
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All devices are a little different... I'm running N preview 3... And I'm completely satisfied, runs amazing for a two year old device.
Here is the main schedule of how I use my device:
In the morning, I charge up to around 80-90%. The device is off. By the end of the day, it's normally at around 30-40%. I don't game, and don't use my phone for much other than texting, social media, and the occasional web browsing/googling.
Mine does get warm at times and hot while charging, but that's expected of any electronic device. Try a charger with a lower wattage.
All the lagginess that I've run into always occurs with extended periods of use. Try shutting the phone off at night and not leaving it on charge all night. Also, a complete internal storage wipe won't do any harm .
An amazing app to help performance, battery life, and overheating is Greenify. It is literally the only app that I use root access for (I would totally root just to use this app). I kinda use it a bit obsessively, manually hibernating every time I leave an app, even though I have auto-hibernation enabled. Know which apps are memory hogs. Make sure to keep your eye on them (snapchat, facebook, etc.).
Hope I helped, may have gone a bit overboard on answering this.
Cheers!
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you do realize that by running stock, you are stuck with the stock cpu setup? and thats where big differences come from, how you set up your cpu. with the way i have my cpu set up, my n6 is never choppy nor even slughtly slow.. never. my n6 is the beast that everyone wants.
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How's your CPU set up? And does your setting compromise battery?
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How's your CPU set up? And does your setting compromise battery?
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no, no comprising battery. but im more after performance, since i get 5h sot no matter what. i use the ondemand governor(98 up threshold and 15000 sampling rate) with the deadline scheduler. everything else that i do isnt as important than setting my governor/scheduler. i have it set to hand around the lower cpu when not doing much, then jumping to top cpu speed as soon as its needed.
I hate my nexus 6 when I charge it, I cant use it super slow I'm going to change it with xiaomi redmi note 3 pro soon. 209 euros for a beast
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I hate my nexus 6 when I charge it, I cant use it super slow I'm going to change it with xiaomi redmi note 3 pro soon. 209 euros for a beast
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67447224/
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no, no comprising battery. but im more after performance, since i get 5h sot no matter what. i use the ondemand governor(98 up threshold and 15000 sampling rate) with the deadline scheduler. everything else that i do isnt as important than setting my governor/scheduler. i have it set to hand around the lower cpu when not doing much, then jumping to top cpu speed as soon as its needed.
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So if I install cyanogenmod 13 could you help me set the way you did? I mean just tell me in which menu I should go and what I should modify. It would be greatly appreciated! I usually get 3h of screentime, you get 2 hours more, that's amazing. Also could you tell me what kernel should I use with cyanogenmod 13?
I'm just shaking my head. I've never had these problems. Lagginess?? Nope. I get pretty good battery life and I've really only used 3 ROMs; Chroma, Purte Nexus and now the setup in my signature. for the last few months
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I'm just shaking my head. I've never had these problems. Lagginess?? Nope. I get pretty good battery life and I've really only used 3 ROMs; Chroma, Purte Nexus and now the setup in my signature. for the last few months
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Do you think that Pure Nexus or cyanogenmod are better than stock? What settings should I change after installing new ROMs to get the best performance/battery?
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Do you think that Pure Nexus or cyanogenmod are better than stock? What settings should I change after installing new ROMs to get the best performance/battery?
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I can only speak for Pure Nexus (Especially the new build on 6/21), but it smokes the stock ROM from Google. Very smooth scrolling, fluid animations, fast app opening....It's just better imho.
Gotta remember, this phone is 1.5 years old...While it was spec heavy when it came out, time is catching up with it
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There is no best.. That's why no one is answering g you.. Its user dependent we all use them differently
The phone is great at full battery. Anything above 40 percent. Under that... Not as good. Speakers crackle, CPU cores shut down and no matter what I do I can't override it. It gets super bad at about 20 percent where I have to raise the clock speed to 1.7 ghz from the 1 GHz I run normally since it is a stuttery mess that slow on 2 cores. So, for me the battery saving features make the battery life worse. Not to mention battery life is so random. I'll get a day and a half or more one day and the next not even get 12 hours. Doing very similar things, very similar screen on time of about 3 hours. The highest screen on time I got was 4 or 5 hours with pure nexus, but I'm on cyanogemod now and it doesn't last more than about 3 and a half often.
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The phone is great at full battery. Anything above 40 percent. Under that... Not as good. Speakers crackle, CPU cores shut down and no matter what I do I can't override it. It gets super bad at about 20 percent where I have to raise the clock speed to 1.7 ghz from the 1 GHz I run normally since it is a stuttery mess that slow on 2 cores. So, for me the battery saving features make the battery life worse. Not to mention battery life is so random. I'll get a day and a half or more one day and the next not even get 12 hours. Doing very similar things, very similar screen on time of about 3 hours. The highest screen on time I got was 4 or 5 hours with pure nexus, but I'm on cyanogemod now and it doesn't last more than about 3 and a half often.
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sounds like its an issue with your set up? why the heck would you buy a nexys 6 only to lower its performance to a dual core? i use my n6 every day to its max. i set up my cpu to work like a beast! but, no matter what, i ALWAYS see at the very least 5 hours sot. anyways, what it sounds like is that you need to learn to set up your device a bit better, like screen brightness.. do you realize that the screen uses more battery than any other part of the phone? i keep my brightness at about 5%. and for every 30% i raise it, i lose 1 hour sot. anyways, theres just so much other stuff to try out.
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sounds like its an issue with your set up? why the heck would you buy a nexys 6 only to lower its performance to a dual core? i use my n6 every day to its max. i set up my cpu to work like a beast! but, no matter what, i ALWAYS see at the very least 5 hours sot. anyways, what it sounds like is that you need to learn to set up your device a bit better, like screen brightness.. do you realize that the screen uses more battery than any other part of the phone? i keep my brightness at about 5%. and for every 30% i raise it, i lose 1 hour sot. anyways, theres just so much other stuff to try out.
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No I don't put it at dual core. It's just that at 20% or less battery the phone shuts 2 cores off.
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and to be fair.... A dual core Nexus 6 still smokes the ancient droid RAZR m I had before this.
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No I don't put it at dual core. It's just that at 20% or less battery the phone shuts 2 cores off.
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and to be fair.... A dual core Nexus 6 still smokes the ancient droid RAZR m I had before this.
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ahh, sorry.. i thought you weakened it yourself, my bad. it just lowers the cpu speed to 19xxmhz. at 40%, it gets lowered to 22xxmhz. but ill be honest, its a rare day when my phone goes under 50%, usually its on thd charger by that time.
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I've learned that pretty much anything aosp based is pretty much the winner in terms of performance and stability and just overall because there's less stuff going on... Chroma or Pure Nexus is the heaviest I would go.
And use Greenify! I explained it in my earlier response...
Franco kernel was pretty sick when I used it with Chroma and I got awesome battery life with practically stock settings. I think the only thing I did was have the cpu underclock at 25%... But I rarely ever got to below 40%...
And there's always battery saving mode!
I always get decent performance no matter what I'm doing because the N6 is such a beast
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I don't do anything special. I usually use the kernel with the stock settings that comes with whichever ROM I'm on. I remove bloat and apps I don't use. When I was running stock/rooted, I'd use a custom kernel but again with the default settings
You try ondemand on b14ckb1rd kernel ......
4h+ screen on and very good performance!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t3ku0q7msavbonu/Screenshot_20160622-002517.png?dl=0
So I really like the performance of this phone. It's fast and good, and the camera is adequate... Until things go south and I want to smash it against a wall. Mostly the problems start when battery drops under 40%. While I know cores get disabled, and performance gets limited, it's just horrible. From what I understand flashing a custom rom will make things more manageable? I've flashed ROMs in the past and had positive experiences with CM. Will Cm13 do the job?
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So I was over in the Atrix forums the other night because there was someone over there who was wanting some help deciding if they should ditch their Atrix for the Thrill 4G. The overwhelming amount of posts about some of the hitches with the Thrill were in regards to the battery consumption and the RAM getting hammered with general usage.
Over here since a bunch of us are actively doing doing what we can to try and speed the development along having being trying new things and tweaking this or that in an attempt to make some progress toward real development.
Here is a link to what I said over there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17448824#post17448824
So I was running back through all the apps. and such that I had used in the past on other phones and hidden in my lengthy list of apps. used to get every ounce of power out of whatever phone I was jacking with, was SuperPower. I had the paid version but it has subsequently been ditched and redone it seems and now takes the form of a BETA.
This BETA I dropped onto my Thrill and started to go through the options that are available on this version that were not there before. You can now manually go into SuperPower and tell the app. what program you want it to kill when the screen goes black, how you want wi-fi and/or radios to behave, etc. It is extremely customizable.
Until there is a custom ROM and all that for the Thrill I think we are going to have to do our best to manage the few minute undesirables this device has with things like SuperPower. So, my end result as it stands right now on battery and RAM usage, I am using a few different apps. and I will list the links below for your convenience; is after about 10 1/2 hours of fairly mid to heavy use I was sitting at about 71 % battery life. Understand I let the battery go down below 20 % then charged it back up to 100 % with no interruptions in the charging process. You should do this at least once a month just maintain good battery health and longevity anyway. Especially on powerhouse phones like the Thrill 4G.
Now when I say mid to heavy usage this is my interpretation of that; regular talk time throughout the day, 100+ text during the day, market and music downloads, 2D and 3D gaming. When it was time to charge again I was at 13 or so hours with 49 % battery still showing. Not to bad as it was blowing through battery like it was free before.
Here are the apps. I used with download links. If you have questions or anything let me know or PM me:
SuperPower BETA v 0.80(*Must be rooted by the way to use this*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=SuperPower
Chainsfire 3D(*must be rooted*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=Chainsfire&so=1&c=apps
*As a side note besides the other great benefits this app. offers what I use to help with battery usage is the Night Mode feature*
SPB Shell 3D (*This is a paid app. and worth every penny IMO. But if you are not down with dropping the change for it use LauncherPro or one of the other free Launchers out there*)
https://market.android.com/search?q=spb+shell+3d+&so=1&c=apps
Advanced Task Manager
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.arron.taskManagerFree&feature=search_result
Hotspot Guru
https://market.android.com/search?q=Hotspot+Guru&so=1&c=apps
Besides what I listed as benefits for SuperPower there are a ton more that I have not even touched on. This app is jam-packed full of modding goodness. get the app. and use at your own risk kind of thing and explore this bad boy because its a doozy. Lol! Hope this helps.
What are you doing specifically on the Superpower app to get such good battery life?
I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
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I think I am at the point that the best option....is to just return the thrill.
I tried using it as my dedicated device for a few days now and it just isnt working out. it freezes,locks up, bluetooth is not holding a connection ,just all around does not perform like I expected.
I really want to like it haha....i really like the overall physical feel of the phone. The 3d is great (after waiting a ridiculously long time for it to load) but it is just too sluggish and quirky for me to enjoy daily.
I am most likely going to start from scratch tonight and give it one more week....but without some major magical miracle (like fully working cwm, kernel development and the ability to flash O3D roms) i just dont see myself keeping the thrill.
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Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.
Thanks! As for apps...that isn't the issue for sure. There are a number of things the phone does quickly but there are a few it does not. The camera does concern me. When I open the three d can it just goes blank screen for a while and then finally comes up.
Hell even typing at times everything will occassionally just pause for a few.
I haven't given up yet. I am going to hard reset and give her one more go
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Really. Mine flies through screen's and apps with Zero Lag including 3D. As far as it sounds to me, sounds like your phone is either defective or loaded with a Ton of apps running in the background constantly. If it's apps running in the background all the time as far as I recall Froyo didn't do the greatest at managing what to shut down and when. Either way goodluck.
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Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
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Try using taskiller and set it up to kill apps when the screen is off. That seems to work well for me with app management.
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Personally, I have been using "Autokiller Memory Optimizer," which is NOT a task killer, but allows you to set memory limits.
This may be overly aggressive, but this is the setup I have been using, and it has been treating me very well. From top to bottom, in MB (from "foreground app" to "empty app"): 18 / 24 / 32 /100 / 125 / 150
I may tweak it down a little, but in general this setup has allowed me to multitask between apps really quickly, while Android "kills" the apps I'm no longer using. Highly recommended for (rooted) Thrill users!
While I'm at it, another useful (paid, requires root) tool for the thrill is "Autostarts."
With what I have done so far with SuperPower and such my phone is flying right along and running consistently with between 186 and 202 mb of available memory. So with the processor and RAM hauling ass I am loving this phone. I am can't wait for some some stuff to come down the pipe for this phone. There is definitely a lot of BS stuff running hidden that can slow it down but with SuperPower and the task killer and all the stuff I talked about when I started the thread I am so far satisfied.
Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.
I'm returning mine. I either put too many apps, get too many defective phones, or just need a phone with more memory. Never had running out of application room on the Captivate or Inspire.
Camera can take up to 8-10 seconds to finally come on. This is a pain when I want some quick shots of the kids at the moment.
Mine also freezes up while I'm using the keyboard whether it's the stock or swiftkey or better keyboard. This is the 2nd thrill I've had and same issues. So that leaves pretty much the GS2 that's coming out. And Samsung scares me.
Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
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Running mine basically how it came straight out of the box, no custom rom, only fancy apps I'm using are appkiller and setcpu right now. Battery life before I got setcpu was... less than desired. But when I got it and configured it to only use as much processor speed as I'd need for my "on the go" usage, I get enough life out of it to last me the whole day, and get home at 20% battery. What I did? Set it so it uses minimal CPU speed (30%)with the screen off, and in calls, and during normal usage it only runs at 60% and that's more than enough to handle my regular usage of texting, emails, calls, browsing, a little bit of gaming, near constant syncing, as well as a good amout of music streaming and maybe only about 50% standby time. Love this phone, dual core with half gig of ram is pretty much complete overkill as far as any phone goes. I fly through Apps only using 60% of the cpu's stock capabilities.now for the times when I'm out longer than normal (over 14 hours a day) I have it set to use minimal CPU speed at 15% battery life and less, in case of emergencies.
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I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
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Until we get a custom kernel.....i am not aware of anything that will allow us too throttle cpu speed. what are you using? sure the apps will allow you to make setting adjustments yes....but those settings are not sticking (not on the apps I have tried)
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I will play with it again but i recall it doing nothing. it looks like the settings have been changed but they do not stick. Running a few benchmarks showed processor still running at full speed
I did a factory reset...will play with it when i get everything loaded up again.
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I'm using the xda app setCPU it's a free download for site members and only requires rooting your phone. Note that the app only controls the max and min speeds of the processor, this isn't overclocking. I don't really know that much about the app beyond what it's supposed to, and seemingly succeeding at doing. Everything that I've done with the app seems to be working fine. I tested it with min and max at only 30% CPU speed (the lowest it seems to allow for), and I definitely felt it in the way my phone responded, the entire time (atleast ten mins) up til I turned the settings back up
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Haven't done any benchmark tests, my conclusion just came based on the results of improved battery
life to be completely honest.
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SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.
Not a problem my good friend, I'm a huge fan of this device and the potentials it possess, I am glad to be a part of any improvements that can be made.
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I am a goon...underclock works perfectly fine
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I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
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SuperPower can throttle it up a bit. It is one of the settings to be checked off.
Open up SuperPower>scroll down to: CPU Scaling: Enable and check the box
Below that is a box you can check for CPU Scaling: ondemand
Like I said in my original post there are a fair amount of options that gives us the opportunity to have our devices running at their best. I appreciate everyone's postings about what they are trying and so forth. This is how it all begins to getting stuff done. Thanks guys.
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I can't find this settings under super power? Do I need to have a paid version of this app?
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irishpunk said:
I'm glad you got it working, how's it helping you're battery life?
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
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Can you post your setcpu settings?
I'm running my CPU at 600000mHz max and 300000mHz min for normal use, and babe a profile that sets it to 300000mHz max and min with the screen off. Have all my profiles set for "on demand" so it only ramps up the CPU when it needs it
yeah ironic I know, a die hard Android fan like myself, doing iPhone AppleCare phone support.
Got the Nexus 4 on release, so far it has been 8 months and never regreted buying it. Many people bash about the poor battery life of the N4, and praise about how awesome the note 2 battery is; it does makes me think twice about selling my N4 for a note 2. Before 4.3 I get a pretty decent SOT, on average about 4.5 hr. Sometimes it surprises me with SOT in the 6 hr range(attached pictures, before 4.3 update).
After updating to 4.3, like many other people, Ive experienced a battery improvement. Now on average, I get 5 hr + SOT. Im on stock everything, no custom roms or kernels. Another thing Ive noticed after the update is that the phone doesnt heat up as much, and it's this that I believe lead to battery improvement(less heat =more efficiency). This phone truly has a potential, and Im holding on to it, to see what it can do with the next update: Key Lime Pie.
Aha, and I don't suppose you could post this in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992627
I think the majority has a **** battery in contrast to the note 2. I don't know what yoi do with your phone in that time, but I would never get such results. I think not even with uv
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Aha, and I don't suppose you could post this in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992627
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bustem said:
I think the majority has a **** battery in contrast to the noHerste 2. I don't know what yoi do with your phone in that time, but I would never get such results. I think not even with uv
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I dunno why, but sometimes it is awesome while other times it is not(3.5 to 4 hrs). I realize the battery life is much better when you don't use auto brightness. Here's another picture. Totally stock.
Anyone using SetCPU to throttle the device and get tolerable battery life?
I wish. Not on Verizon!
Bump!!
I just started using trickster mod and set max frequency to about 2.0GHz. The battery life has increased with no lag. On Lollipop.
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I just started using trickster mod and set max frequency to about 2.0GHz. The battery life has increased with no lag. On Lollipop.
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What did you have to do to get trickster working? Just download it? It works straight from the market? H3lp!
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What did you have to do to get trickster working? Just download it? It works straight from the market? H3lp!
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Yeah just download it. You will have to download a busybox installer if you don't have busybox installed as well.
Awesome thanks. What mods and settings have you found useful?
Anyone has had success tweaking new Moto X with SetCPU?
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Anyone has had success tweaking new Moto X with SetCPU?
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SetCPU caused major lag for me personally.. I switched to trickstermod and all seems fine so far
I'm using No Frills, working great across 422MHz - 1GHz ( hardcore testing )
I have never noticed any battery improvement from underclocking, and correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the general consensus (among those actually informed) was that it doesn't actually help because it causes the processor to take longer to complete tasks, canceling out any actual gains.
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I have never noticed any battery improvement from underclocking, and correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the general consensus (among those actually informed) was that it doesn't actually help because it causes the processor to take longer to complete tasks, canceling out any actual gains.
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After testing for a day almost, I'll say that's crap.. I'm running this guy comfortably at 0.8GHz with ultra small lags, see the battery for yourself. I used to get 4-4.5 hours of max screen on running it untampered and now this damn battery won't die!
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After testing for a day almost, I'll say that's crap.. I'm running this guy comfortably at 0.8GHz with ultra small lags, see the battery for yourself. I used to get 4-4.5 hours of max screen on running it untampered and now this damn battery won't die!
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Yeah I dunno man, I'm not underclocked and I can probably get 8+hrs SOT as well if all I'm doing is web browsing and reading. I mean, I average around 6-7hrs SOT on mine (still on 4.4.4) depending on what I'm doing. Everybody's usage patterns are different, which is why I don't trust SOT screen shots. Plus, there is nothing in your second screenshot that shows any actual usage. You have screen, cell standby, wifi, android system... I'm not seeing any apps in there which leads me to believe that isn't a heavy usage scenario for you.
And again, I have underclocked before with many, many devices and haven't seen any actual gains. Also, I have yet to see any actual empirical evidence that shows underclocking helps. Couple that with the fact that many people who are well versed in this stuff (including the CyanogenMod team) have come forward and said that any gains from underclocking are placebo due to the reason I stated before, and I am HIGHLY skeptical.
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Yeah I dunno man, I'm not underclocked and I can probably get 8+hrs SOT as well if all I'm doing is web browsing and reading. I mean, I average around 6-7hrs SOT on mine (still on 4.4.4) depending on what I'm doing. Everybody's usage patterns are different, which is why I don't trust SOT screen shots. Plus, there is nothing in your second screenshot that shows any actual usage. You have screen, cell standby, wifi, android system... I'm not seeing any apps in there which leads me to believe that isn't a heavy usage scenario for you.
And again, I have underclocked before with many, many devices and haven't seen any actual gains. Also, I have yet to see any actual empirical evidence that shows underclocking helps. Couple that with the fact that many people who are well versed in this stuff (including the CyanogenMod team) have come forward and said that any gains from underclocking are placebo due to the reason I stated before, and I am HIGHLY skeptical.
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The reason there's no specific apps you see is because I did what you do in a typical battery test, gaming a bit, reading ,browsing and all the others... So the individual. consumption is well b below 5%.. But yeah even without underclocking i have gotten even 5.5hours which is not bad at all
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Yeah I dunno man, I'm not underclocked and I can probably get 8+hrs SOT as well if all I'm doing is web browsing and reading. I mean, I average around 6-7hrs SOT on mine (still on 4.4.4) depending on what I'm doing. Everybody's usage patterns are different, which is why I don't trust SOT screen shots. Plus, there is nothing in your second screenshot that shows any actual usage. You have screen, cell standby, wifi, android system... I'm not seeing any apps in there which leads me to believe that isn't a heavy usage scenario for you.
And again, I have underclocked before with many, many devices and haven't seen any actual gains. Also, I have yet to see any actual empirical evidence that shows underclocking helps. Couple that with the fact that many people who are well versed in this stuff (including the CyanogenMod team) have come forward and said that any gains from underclocking are placebo due to the reason I stated before, and I am HIGHLY skeptical.
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You can be sceptical because you should be, the cpu throttles already and only uses max speed when needed. With light usage like me (WhatsApp, telegram, 20m phone calls and some mails a day) I get 4 days on 4g and wifi. (I turn my phone on flight mode during the night) I've also disabled moto application (voice is useless in Dutch/not working) The biggest energy consumer is the screen so change your wallpaper to a dark one and close unused background apps (moto voice, google now, virus scanner and all other useless apps. If you use all the social media out there on your phone, no battery capacity is sufficient. I could limit my max cpu speed because the cpu governor probably throttles to max even when launching undemanding apps, but I would probably won't notice any savings.
The title explains it all—I'm wondering what the best kernel settings are to achieve the best battery life without completely dropping performance. I've never tweaked the kernel on any phone I've owned before, so I have no idea what those settings might be. I currently get around 5-6 hours of SOT, which is great for heavy usage but with a battery those huge we should expect way more.
I'm currently playing around with majorly under clocking the CPU (Currently testing at 1.2 GHz) and have yet to notice a difference in performance. I'll update with battery improvements if any arise.
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im on zzmove with profile 6, run only 2 core at 2.4Ghz and every thing seem good
phone run cool and great in game(framerate still good and more stable since no throttling at all, before that with stock, my phone get hot and lag if i play asphat for long) not sure about battery yet but seem good
Try computerfreak ROM, i'm getting 77 hrs on battery and 6 SOT!
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I'm currently running Resurrection Remix and I seem to be getting better battery life than I was on stock, which is odd; however, I wish to get more. Update me on those kernel settings.
Also I noticed that when I'm at school the cellular signal drains my battery considerably. The signal there is poor, is there any way I can minimize the drainage?
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I'm currently running Resurrection Remix and I seem to be getting better battery life than I was on stock, which is odd; however, I wish to get more. Update me on those kernel settings.
Also I noticed that when I'm at school the cellular signal drains my battery considerably. The signal there is poor, is there any way I can minimize the drainage?
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When im not doing any texting i usually put my phone in airplane mode...
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When im not doing any texting i usually put my phone in airplane mode...
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That's a ridiculously easy thing to do, I can't believe I didn't think of this. However, its rather inconvenient. Any other ways? I heard back in 4.4.4 that there was a way to disable certain bands or something to consume less power when you have bad signal.
Latiken said:
That's a ridiculously easy thing to do, I can't believe I didn't think of this. However, its rather inconvenient. Any other ways? I heard back in 4.4.4 that there was a way to disable certain bands or something to consume less power when you have bad signal.
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Well i was on 4.4.4 was really bad didnt know how too fix it.. try to get greenify if ur rooted currently havent charged my phone in like 2 days its kinda hard too kill the battery sometimes
I'm on rr and honestly I'm not getting the best battery. Like 3.5 hour on screen time. It does still make it through the day though. I changed the kernel settings to conservative under cpu, which helped a lot from previously getting under 3.
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I'm on rr and honestly I'm not getting the best battery. Like 3.5 hour on screen time. It does still make it through the day though. I changed the kernel settings to conservative under cpu, which helped a lot from previously getting under 3.
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i've heard RR has bad battery life imo Would did u find that under the kernel settings?
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i've heard RR has bad battery life imo Would did u find that under the kernel settings?
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Settings, configs, performance tuning, kernal tweaks, then in the app in the cpu tab, the cpu governor option. That's where I found it and I turned it down and I'm getting better battery.
That's odd. I get considerable better battery life on RR than I did on stock. I've hit 5.5 and even 6 hours of SOT with heavy to medium use (when I'm not at school at least).
Same here, but I noticed it lasts much longer with Greenify and Amplify installed with Xposed. I lose about 2-3% during standby mode during the night....whereas before I lost about 10-15% even while on RR.
Just got 7HR and 4 mins screen on time with in 2 days didnt use my phone at school only when i was at home so i guess 7hr's is good..
EDIT: i am on stock ROM
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Just got 7HR and 4 mins screen on time with in 2 days didnt use my phone at school only when i was at home so i guess 7hr's is good..
EDIT: i am on stock ROM
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That sounds right about what stock should be getting for some users. It's good to reference stock with your personal use versus someone else.
1 hour of a playing a game with full brightness will use significantly more battery than an hour of book reading on night move although they both technically have the same screen on time.
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richii0207 said:
That sounds right about what stock should be getting for some users. It's good to reference stock with your personal use versus someone else.
1 hour of a playing a game with full brightness will use significantly more battery than an hour of book reading on night move although they both technically have the same screen on time.
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I usually consistently got about 5 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time on stock with medium to heavy usage at school and at home.
On Resurrection Remix, I usually get 5 or sometimes 5 and a half or 6 hours, with heavy usage at home. On school days, I can only manage to get around 3, which I find incredibly odd. I chalk it up to the poor signal at my school draining my battery.
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I usually consistently got about 5 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time on stock with medium to heavy usage at school and at home.
On Resurrection Remix, I usually get 5 or sometimes 5 and a half or 6 hours, with heavy usage at home. On school days, I can only manage to get around 3, which I find incredibly odd. I chalk it up to the poor signal at my school draining my battery.
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Yeah put my in airplane mode drains i think every couple hours maybe 3.. 5 hrs is decent with that ROM IMO
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Yeah put my in airplane mode drains i think every couple hours maybe 3.. 5 hrs is decent with that ROM IMO
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It definitely is decent, but with a battery this huge we should be getting way more. Especially since Moto and Verizon preached about 48hr battery life.
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It definitely is decent, but with a battery this huge we should be getting way more. Especially since Moto and Verizon preached about 48hr battery life.
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Yeah so true i guess thats Motorola and Verizon for ya lol
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It definitely is decent, but with a battery this huge we should be getting way more. Especially since Moto and Verizon preached about 48hr battery life.
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You can get 48 hrs on the Turbo. You can also get 5 hrs. Like I said before, it all depends on your personal usage. Perhaps they have a baseline test they do on every phone so there's no variable aside from battery.
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What really is up with Android phone and their battery life. This been bugging me for like forever and its 4:00 AM and i have to post.
Like my sister had s7 edge and just the general messenger apps IG, WhatsApp, telegram & Weechat. Rest are game for toddler. But all the time the phone been with her, her average SOT is like four hours and the BATTERY KEEPS ON DRAINING on Wi-Fi or Data and NEVER flats out. It only does when in airplane mode. Before you guys days uninstall the games, in the battery usage graph same with GSAMbattery, Android system is like up all the time. So it has to do with Android OS.
is Android really just like this? Do iPhones person better?
I have EXACTLY the same issue with my nexus 6 rooted. When my wifi is up, none stop drain and BBS doesn't show any unusual activity.
What going on guys?
y300owner said:
What really is up with Android phone and their battery life. This been bugging me for like forever and its 4:00 AM and i have to post.
Like my sister had s7 edge and just the general messenger apps IG, WhatsApp, telegram & Weechat. Rest are game for toddler. But all the time the phone been with her, her average SOT is like four hours and the BATTERY KEEPS ON DRAINING on Wi-Fi or Data and NEVER flats out. It only does when in airplane mode. Before you guys days uninstall the games, in the battery usage graph same with GSAMbattery, Android system is like up all the time. So it has to do with Android OS.
is Android really just like this? Do iPhones person better?
I have EXACTLY the same issue with my nexus 6 rooted. When my wifi is up, none stop drain and BBS doesn't show any unusual activity.
What going on guys?
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With 4 hours screen on time that is about what you can expect. Mainly when using things like weechat which is notorious for uploading all it data over and over again to its servers in China. Then you have whatsapp which is done by facebook which are known for some of the worst coded apps for battery drain in the market.
Your biggest issue is the screen on time. $ hours is a bit ruff on a device. As the screen is the biggest thing to take up battery. Unlike the iphone which uses a less intense screen due to its lower quality res.
y300owner said:
What really is up with Android phone and their battery life. This been bugging me for like forever and its 4:00 AM and i have to post.
Like my sister had s7 edge and just the general messenger apps IG, WhatsApp, telegram & Weechat. Rest are game for toddler. But all the time the phone been with her, her average SOT is like four hours and the BATTERY KEEPS ON DRAINING on Wi-Fi or Data and NEVER flats out. It only does when in airplane mode. Before you guys days uninstall the games, in the battery usage graph same with GSAMbattery, Android system is like up all the time. So it has to do with Android OS.
is Android really just like this? Do iPhones person better?
I have EXACTLY the same issue with my nexus 6 rooted. When my wifi is up, none stop drain and BBS doesn't show any unusual activity.
What going on guys?
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Bro, you should use an iPhone and see! It's much worse than Android. iPhone have less size batteries and you can hardly get through the entire day with one charge according to your usage. Although apple's implementation of background apps optimization is excellent, but still the battery life is less due to small batteries. I feel android is much better in terms of battery.
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Bro, you should use an iPhone and see! It's much worse than Android. iPhone have less size batteries and you can hardly get through the entire day with one charge according to your usage. Although apple's implementation of background apps optimization is excellent, but still the battery life is less due to small batteries. I feel android is much better in terms of battery.
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Totally agree.
You can add that android is still an open system which allows you to hard modify the system, apps behavior, etc.. So you can set your device especially for your daily use.
For example, the way I set my 2yo-phone gives me 8 to 10 hours SOT, which is faaaar from any Apple devices autonomy..
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As the screen is the biggest thing to take up battery.
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It's not especially the screen which tumble down the battery energy, not as much as touching it. Which will litterally eat your battery life..
So my question is, can the voice detection+voice commands be less energy-consuming than the touch-sensitive commands ? (while keeping an active detection)
My 1.5 year old nexus 6 on stock april rom 7.1.1 nonrooted has only 2-2.5 hour sot
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indreshpatel88 said:
My 1.5 year old nexus 6 on stock april rom 7.1.1 nonrooted has only 2-2.5 hour sot
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Bro, its time you pull up your socks. Root your phone and enjoy a whole lot of new features and performance. Our's is one of the best development on xda and you have plenty of options to choose from. All The Best. Hope to see you in the threads around!'
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Bro, its time you pull up your socks. Root your phone and enjoy a whole lot of new features and performance. Our's is one of the best development on xda and you have plenty of options to choose from. All The Best. Hope to see you in the threads around!'
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That has nothing to do with it. I get about the same on my device. Running custom rom.
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mesco38 said:
Totally agree.
You can add that android is still an open system which allows you to hard modify the system, apps behavior, etc.. So you can set your device especially for your daily use.
For example, the way I set my 2yo-phone gives me 8 to 10 hours SOT, which is faaaar from any Apple devices autonomy..
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It's not especially the screen which tumble down the battery energy, not as much as touching it. Which will litterally eat your battery life..
So my question is, can the voice detection+voice commands be less energy-consuming than the touch-sensitive commands ? (while keeping an active detection)
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No it's really mostly just the screen being on. You can test this by setting the device screen to never time out and let it sit. You will notice that it kills the battery.
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With 4 hours screen on time that is about what you can expect. Mainly when using things like weechat which is notorious for uploading all it data over and over again to its servers in China. Then you have whatsapp which is done by facebook which are known for some of the worst coded apps for battery drain in the market.
Your biggest issue is the screen on time. $ hours is a bit ruff on a device. As the screen is the biggest thing to take up battery. Unlike the iphone which uses a less intense screen due to its lower quality res.
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If Weechat and Whatsapp were responsible for the drains, why don't they show up on battery usage as top drainers?
It's always Android System
jayadev01 said:
Bro, you should use an iPhone and see! It's much worse than Android. iPhone have less size batteries and you can hardly get through the entire day with one charge according to your usage. Although apple's implementation of background apps optimization is excellent, but still the battery life is less due to small batteries. I feel android is much better in terms of battery.
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Never used Iphone but assumed they have good battery life because of endless praise it gets which is getting old.
y300owner said:
If Weechat and Whatsapp were responsible for the drains, why don't they show up on battery usage as top drainers?
It's always Android System
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That is generic which means apps system api or systems the app uses. Like say the LG tones app. It uses the system BT api and if it drains the battery then all you see is BT at the top.
After years of trial with all sorts of applications to kill apps, battery /juice saves, my ultimate solution on Samsung alpha, 1800amph only battery is conjuction of Greenify, follow up with SD Maid. Alternate day.
Excellent results. I'm rooted.
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That has nothing to do with it. I get about the same on my device. Running custom rom.
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I'd say that you either have a battery that is past it's useful life, or you have some serious wakelocks going on. 2-2.5 hours SOT is awful. I bought my device used 9 months ago and can easily average 6-8 hours SOT over the course of 48 hours on battery (on stock 7.0 unrooted). I'm only now seeing a lower SOT with this current update to Google Play Services. And even now I still get 5-6 hours SOT in 48 hours.
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I'd say that you either have a battery that is past it's useful life, or you have some serious wakelocks going on. 2-2.5 hours SOT is awful. I bought my device used 9 months ago and can easily average 6-8 hours SOT over the course of 48 hours on battery (on stock 7.0 unrooted). I'm only now seeing a lower SOT with this current update to Google Play Services. And even now I still get 5-6 hours SOT in 48 hours.
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I know the reason for my bad battery life. It's my signal. Signal here is spotty and if you leave town you lose signal all together. So my device spends most of the day looking for a stronger signal. SOT really doesn't mean much to me.
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I know the reason for my bad battery life. It's my signal. Signal here is spotty and if you leave town you lose signal all together. So my device spends most of the day looking for a stronger signal. SOT really doesn't mean much to me.
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Ah yeah, well there is that as well. Have you tried turning off LTE and preffering 3G? I've found that helps in some fringe areas.
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Ah yeah, well there is that as well. Have you tried turning off LTE and preffering 3G? I've found that helps in some fringe areas.
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Yeah I normally keep late off. It doesn't help really. Signal is just too spotty. You can bounce between 2g,3g and lte in 5 min and never move. Then you have the times when the military blocks all GPS and unless you heard the announcement and turned GPS off that would also kill your battery. Then like I said once you leave town you have no signal for hundreds of miles.
Can somebody explain this?
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Can somebody explain this?
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We would need more info before we could really explain it. For starters though it looks like bluetooth is sucking the life out of your battery. Do you have something connected to it currently?
As far as my screen on time goes, im on the pixel rom with no addons and i get 4 hours screen on time
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Can somebody explain this?
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Settings -> Google -> instant tethering
Turn everything off.
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I'd say that you either have a battery that is past it's useful life, or you have some serious wakelocks going on. 2-2.5 hours SOT is awful. I bought my device used 9 months ago and can easily average 6-8 hours SOT over the course of 48 hours on battery (on stock 7.0 unrooted). I'm only now seeing a lower SOT with this current update to Google Play Services. And even now I still get 5-6 hours SOT in 48 hours.
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How is 6-8 hours sot possible over 48 hours? I've tried different kernels, lineage/CyanogenMod, Pure Nexus, greenify, and even tried down clocking the CPU to 1.2 GHz or less at all times (shockingly, in normal use I couldn't tell the difference lol). Never got that much screen on time. I'm not even sure airplane mode would do that. My best was around 45 hours, but with about 3 hours of screen on time. And that was with the phone being less than 3 months old.
Currently I'm on stock Android, and getting 20 hours at best with 3 hours sot. At this point, I will say my battery is shot since it is a year old. But I'd love to see your settings and see if I could get close.
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How is 6-8 hours sot possible over 48 hours? I've tried different kernels, lineage/CyanogenMod, Pure Nexus, greenify, and even tried down clocking the CPU to 1.2 GHz or less at all times (shockingly, in normal use I couldn't tell the difference lol). Never got that much screen on time. I'm not even sure airplane mode would do that. My best was around 45 hours, but with about 3 hours of screen on time. And that was with the phone being less than 3 months old.
Currently I'm on stock Android, and getting 20 hours at best with 3 hours sot. At this point, I will say my battery is shot since it is a year old. But I'd love to see your settings and see if I could get close.
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Here are screenshots of my battery use from March. 3 days with 6.5 hours SOT. I keep my screen at a relative 20% or so (lower at night). I have very strong signal (major city) And I use wifi about 65-70% of the time. I also actively moderate my screen touches (yes, they do indeed matter). I turn off NFC and I don't use BT. I also actively purge misbehaving apps (I refuse to install some, like Facebook) Other than this, I can't really say. Perhaps, I just lucked out and got a cherry of a system (with the exception of my headphone jack not working with mics...Grrr... and my camera's image stabilization Causing blur at certain shutter speeds)