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[Q] Lucy, I need some 'Splainin'

Sorry to be such a noob, but can somebody explain to me the difference between a stable vs. nightly build when it comes to CM7?
Which is better to put on an SD card for the purpose of running CM7?
Also, who is updating these files and testing them before they are posted?
Thanks.
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Nevermind, folks. I got the answers here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version

Nightly builds have updates almost daily, so they have the latest upgrades but occasionally might have a hangup. Stable builds are updated every few weeks (maybe), but as their name implies, are considered more stable as they then incorporate most of the nightly upgrades into one. Both are released by the CM team.
The nightly builds have slightly better battery life than the last stable, and both are pretty solid as a daily driver. There were reported problems in flashing back and forth, so best bet is to pick one path and follow that. If you don't think you want to flash that often, choose stable.

[Q] datadata vs nodatadata, installing cm10 (LANIGHT)

So the point of this thread is to make sure i understand what I am doing before I do it. I have decided to update the cm7 on my phone. I was going to use the cm9 since it is the next stable release. But the people who talk about the Jellybean releases are super happy about them so i decided to skip ics. I looked into a thread for cm10 nightly releases vs hellybean. It was there i heard of Lanight. After reading more about it, it sounds like the version to go for right now. So my final problem became nodatadata vs datadata. I have a vague understanding of what the difference is from trying to search it up...but i did not come across a clear explanation. One way i can bypass the question is by asking "Was CM7 DATADATA or NoDATATA, and if they were both available, how do i figure it out."[/B.
This thread is to make sure that I have fully understood what i read and that i am not creating problems for myself later. I do appologize if this question has been answered a million times. Just one more time for me please.

CM always had datadata until, CM10, but they put it back in CM10.
Sent from a jelly bean

dustingvitamins said:
So the point of this thread is to make sure i understand what I am doing before I do it. I have decided to update the cm7 on my phone. I was going to use the cm9 since it is the next stable release. But the people who talk about the Jellybean releases are super happy about them so i decided to skip ics. I looked into a thread for cm10 nightly releases vs hellybean. It was there i heard of Lanight. After reading more about it, it sounds like the version to go for right now. So my final problem became nodatadata vs datadata. I have a vague understanding of what the difference is from trying to search it up...but i did not come across a clear explanation. One way i can bypass the question is by asking "Was CM7 DATADATA or NoDATATA, and if they were both available, how do i figure it out."[/B.
This thread is to make sure that I have fully understood what i read and that i am not creating problems for myself later. I do appologize if this question has been answered a million times. Just one more time for me please.
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I don't know much about Lanight but I do know that the dev created the two versions because some people were having wifi issues on one version and wasn't on the other. That being said I've run different roms, some of which are datadata and some that aren't, and haven't had issues. As far as causing trouble for you down the road the only thing I've ran into is the inability to restore your nandroid backup when going from datadata to nodatadata and vice versa. Occasionally I've ran into status 7 errors going between the different layouts but flashing the kernel by it's self for the rom you're going to prior to flashing the rom package generally solves that issue.

Most Reliable Daily Driver?

I see alot of Tocuhpad Dev threads and I just pulled my TP out of storage.
Its running Cyanogen Mod 4.0.4 (System settings says Cyanogen Mod Version 9-20120930 Nightly tenderloin)
Build date Sun Sept 30th 2012
I have CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.6
moboot 0.3.5
As you can see its very outdated.
What should I be running now if I am looking for daily reliability with most features working? Thanks for your input (If there is a newer guide I can follow to update from my current version to a new one please post it, thank you)

I would suggest that you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147284.
It is an excellent guide with video tutorials if necessary. Roland has also posted an additional guide of the newer more experimental Roms also in Touchpad Development forum.
Hopefully they will help you make a decision based on what you need to use your tablet for ie Bluetooth/gaming etc.
Have fun there have been lots of improvements since you last used it.

sstar said:
I would suggest that you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147284.
It is an excellent guide with video tutorials if necessary. Roland has also posted an additional guide of the newer more experimental Roms also in Touchpad Development forum.
Hopefully they will help you make a decision based on what you need to use your tablet for ie Bluetooth/gaming etc.
Have fun there have been lots of improvements since you last used it.
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Where do you even start on that thread, there is about 100 links and 15 videos posted?

gt5oh said:
Where do you even start on that thread, there is about 100 links and 15 videos posted?
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Just read the first page, then try a couple of different ROMs at the very least you can see all the different variations available and the requirements needed to install them(Partition size.
If you then have a specific question having tried the above it will probably be a lot easier to help you.

Personally, I would go with milaq's last Jelly Bean 4.2.2 rom cm10.1
The next step is 4.3 - read need for resizing of /system, and/or /data partitions - or 4.4 (Kitkat), which is still very much experimental/developmental.
Milaq's 10.1 Jelly Bean roms are very stable and good for daily use.
Just my opinion!
Peace

Thanks, I actually went the opposite way and did the test version of 4.4 to see how it is

It appears you are already partitioned to run the newest ROMs, but if you or others want to try at least a 10.1 ROM (Android 4.2.2) without having to increase partition size, OaT's Light n Tasty (LnT) is very stable and except for the lack of bluetooth plaguing a number of the post-CM9 ROMs the ROM is very solid. He somehow lightens the ROM and the GAPPs so it runs in the pre-CM10 partitions. I am leery of going all the way back to webOS, removing Android, doctoring and changing partitions, and then starting over. At some point I am sure I will, especially if a really solid KitKat ROM is released with bluetooth.
Many people have stayed on CM9 btw, as they find CM9 the most dependable.
Here's a link to the XDA discussion on OaT LnT. Note his OP has an older version of his ROM... if you scroll towards the end he includes a link to an October 8 version he has been using recently. Make sure to also use the GAPPs he includes in the OP, since it is lightened as well. He leaves off a few things... like calendar and browser, since so many people can and do use ones downloaded from Play Store (is. I use aCalendar and Next browser).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332510

CM 10.1 (JB 4.2.2) doesn't require repatitioning, its the newer 10.2/4.3 and Kitkat 4.4 that require/advise a larger /system partition.
I actually went back to ICS from 10.1 thinking it had been better, but tbh the experience wasn't what I remembered and I very quickly went back to 10.1 (via Kitkat, briefly, but too buggy for me atm). Battery life, responsiveness and stability were all better, for me, with 10.1 (spceifically milaq's roms).
Having said that, its worth giving yourself a bigger /system partition - 5 or 600mb - and trying out the latest kitkat builds, there's lots of promise there!
I will definitely be going back once certain bugs and issues are ironed out...
Peace

[Q] Best stable ROM for HD+

Hi
Just received a Nook HD+ but after quickly browsing and playing for a while, I was not pleased with the stock rom, scrolls were not as smooth as I had seen on my nexus 4 for nexus 7 (maybe I am spoilt), I could notice some jitters and hope a custom ROM could fix this.
When I see in the Android development forum for this device, as usual the very many listing of the ROMs makes it difficult to identify which is the latest and the stable one (I suggest in future we should group the threads as - stable and non-stable which will help Noobs like me to jump into the act immediately).
Can somebody please advise me this bit of information as to which is the most latest custom rom that is stable, I am guessing it could the 10.1 build here [NookHD+] CM10.1 native emmc install Now part of CM Nightlies . Also to a step by step resource starting from rooting to the final flashing of the custom rom.
Also, is it possible to use 'Cyonogenmod installer' instead directly from their website!?
thanks
S

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Believe me I tried everything on nook.my initial thoughts were to run on SD card.but you have no official stable ROM for SD card .and the one available from bookbane was quite laggy .I tried both cm 11 and cm 10.2.then I installed on emmc again cm 11,cm 10.1 ,xperia ROM.but trust me the best experience I had so far was from cm10.2 on emmc .works beutiffully without any lag.
Just received a Nook HD+ but after quickly browsing and playing for a while, I was not pleased with the stock rom, scrolls were not as smooth as I had seen on my nexus 4 for nexus 7 (maybe I am spoilt), I could notice some jitters and hope a custom ROM could fix this.
When I see in the Android development forum for this device, as usual the very many listing of the ROMs makes it difficult to identify which is the latest and the stable one (I suggest in future we should group the threads as - stable and non-stable which will help Noobs like me to jump into the act immediately).
Can somebody please advise me this bit of information as to which is the most latest custom rom that is stable, I am guessing it could the 10.1 build here [NookHD+] CM10.1 native emmc install Now part of CM Nightlies . Also to a step by step resource starting from rooting to the final flashing of the custom rom.
Also, is it possible to use 'Cyonogenmod installer' instead directly from their website!?
thanks
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dajmaa said:
Believe me I tried everything on nook.my initial thoughts were to run on SD card.but you have no official stable ROM for SD card .and the one available from bookbane was quite laggy .I tried both cm 11 and cm 10.2.then I installed on emmc again cm 11,cm 10.1 ,xperia ROM.but trust me the best experience I had so far was from cm10.2 on emmc .works beutiffully without any lag.
Just received a Nook HD+ but after quickly browsing and playing for a while, I was not pleased with the stock rom, scrolls were not as smooth as I had seen on my nexus 4 for nexus 7 (maybe I am spoilt), I could notice some jitters and hope a custom ROM could fix this.
When I see in the Android development forum for this device, as usual the very many listing of the ROMs makes it difficult to identify which is the latest and the stable one (I suggest in future we should group the threads as - stable and non-stable which will help Noobs like me to jump into the act immediately).
Can somebody please advise me this bit of information as to which is the most latest custom rom that is stable, I am guessing it could the 10.1 build here [NookHD+] CM10.1 native emmc install Now part of CM Nightlies . Also to a step by step resource starting from rooting to the final flashing of the custom rom.
Also, is it possible to use 'Cyonogenmod installer' instead directly from their website!?
thanks
S
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Could you please point me to the source please with instructions to the best experience ROM 10.2!? will this autoupdate to any other new updates from Cyanogenmod?
thanks
S

Could you please point me to the source please with instructions to the best experience ROM 10.2!? will this autoupdate to any other new updates from Cyanogenmod?
thanks
S[/QUOTE]Go to the dummies guide for installing CM10.1/CM10.2 linked in my signature.
Sent from my SCH-i705 using Tapatalk

CM11
Best choice for HD+ is CM11 EMMC from verygreen.
It's officially supported by Cyanogemod and gets nightly updates.
The ROM is smooth and efficient.
There may be tiny little bugs for the ROM, but they won't stop you from using your device as a daily driver.
3/27 is very stable btw.

CM 10.2.1. vs. CM 11
After reading some of the posts here, I decided to "downgrade" from CM 11 0327 to the last stable CM 10, 10.2.1. (Per dajmaa's suggestion.)
I'd never tried CM 10 before. When I got my HD+ a few weeks ago, I went from the Nook stock ROM direct to a CM11 SD install (0308) and then ended up at CD 11 0327 on emmc the other day.
While CM 11 was usable for me (except for one annoying problem, where I couldn't download mp3's), I see that CM 10 is much more finished. For example, it has zRam implemented. (But maybe KitKat doesn't need that, with it's ostensibly better memory management?) Trebuchet launcher works like it's supposed to in CM 10.2.1, although I liked the ability to enlarge the icons in CM 11. And the font in the status bar seemed bigger to my old eyes in CM 11 than CM 10.
Lagwise, they both seem the same. No lag, although I noticed that CM 10 gets "stuck" every now and then when I switch back and forth quickly between apps. And it keeps wanting to put "Extended Desktop" in the Power menu.
I haven't had it running long enough with my aviation moving maps to see if I get any random reboots like I did with CM 11.
As JimJ2Mz said, 0327 runs well. (Except that I couldn't download podcasts.)
But I'll plan to stay put now until there's some major announcement about CM 11, like a RC or something.

JimJ2Mz said:
Best choice for HD+ is CM11 EMMC from verygreen.
It's officially supported by Cyanogemod and gets nightly updates.
The ROM is smooth and efficient.
There may be tiny little bugs for the ROM, but they won't stop you from using your device as a daily driver.
3/27 is very stable btw.
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Thanks Jim, I installed 10.2.x after trying out 10.1.3 for some time. I notice, GAPPS crashing randomly once in a while although not that too bad. Sometimes hangs for a while before it gets normal. So I guess there are still some bugs around. So was wondering 10.1.3 must be the one for me unless something stable comes up.
Now I see your post, and wondering why not I try it if there is going to be future updates. Do you feel it is smoother than the 10.1.x and 10.2.x as we all know KitKat is designed to run better on older hardware? If so I will proceed with CM11 and live minor bugs if that is not going to stand in the way of my daily usage like you mentioned.

sany said:
Thanks Jim, I installed 10.2.x after trying out 10.1.3 for some time. I notice, GAPPS crashing randomly once in a while although not that too bad. Sometimes hangs for a while before it gets normal. So I guess there are still some bugs around. So was wondering 10.1.3 must be the one for me unless something stable comes up.
Now I see your post, and wondering why not I try it if there is going to be future updates. Do you feel it is smoother than the 10.1.x and 10.2.x as we all know KitKat is designed to run better on older hardware? If so I will proceed with CM11 and live minor bugs if that is not going to stand in the way of my daily usage like you mentioned.
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When you updated to CM10.2, did you also update to 20120813 gapps? That could be the reason for your gapps problems if you didn't.
And an HD+ is not 'older hardware'.
I recommend CM10.1.3 as the most stable.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

sany said:
Thanks Jim, I installed 10.2.x after trying out 10.1.3 for some time. I notice, GAPPS crashing randomly once in a while although not that too bad. Sometimes hangs for a while before it gets normal. So I guess there are still some bugs around. So was wondering 10.1.3 must be the one for me unless something stable comes up.
Now I see your post, and wondering why not I try it if there is going to be future updates. Do you feel it is smoother than the 10.1.x and 10.2.x as we all know KitKat is designed to run better on older hardware? If so I will proceed with CM11 and live minor bugs if that is not going to stand in the way of my daily usage like you mentioned.
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In my own experience, yes, CM11 feels much more fluid than the older versions.
4.4 RAM usage is optimized for older hardware, which actually benefits ALL devices, but that doesn't mean that the Nook HD/HD+ is old. It's modern and is still very powerful, just as leapinlar said. Well, not powerful, but not weak. Haha.
And as leapinlar also recommended, CM10.1.3 is indeed stable. Anyway. It's up to you. I've had my experiences with the ROMs and they can differ from others, so it's all up to you whether you want to try CM11 or stick to any other ROM.

JimJ2Mz said:
In my own experience, yes, CM11 feels much more fluid than the older versions.
4.4 RAM usage is optimized for older hardware, which actually benefits ALL devices, but that doesn't mean that the Nook HD/HD+ is old. It's modern and is still very powerful, just as leapinlar said. Well, not powerful, but not weak. Haha.
And as leapinlar also recommended, CM10.1.3 is indeed stable. Anyway. It's up to you. I've had my experiences with the ROMs and they can differ from others, so it's all up to you whether you want to try CM11 or stick to any other ROM.
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I tried CM11 but it was throwing lots of google app erros on load, I was actually using the same GAPPS file that was on the 10.2.1, is there a used diferent GAPP file for CM11? maybe that caused the error. And also I struggled to go back to the CWM recovery for CM10.1 and 10.2 as it was just stuck at the recovery used for CM11 even after flashing the ver.3 recovery zip several times.

I have literally tried every single ROM out there and here are my recommendations:
1. Succulent's CM 11 (http://goo.im/devs/succulent/ovation/cyanogenmod/internal)
2. Official CM 10.2 Stable (I have been using it with drmarble's Kernel, which you can get here: https://app.box.com/s/ry03xsmhlxq2jomnwlaj)
Both ROMs are bug-free and run flawlessly. I get around 6 hours of screen-on time on both (which is an amazing battery life).

OH GEEZ
sany said:
I tried CM11 but it was throwing lots of google app erros on load, I was actually using the same GAPPS file that was on the 10.2.1, is there a used diferent GAPP file for CM11? maybe that caused the error. And also I struggled to go back to the CWM recovery for CM10.1 and 10.2 as it was just stuck at the recovery used for CM11 even after flashing the ver.3 recovery zip several times.
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DUDE YOU HAVE TO USE GAPPS DEDICATED FOR CM11 (4.4)!
That's a given. You're having errors due to the fact that you're using 4.2 gapps on 4.4!
Follow this guide and FIX EVERYTHING. I followed it myself it everything works perfectly.
Please do ask if you need help on anything. I may be a noob, but I do know some stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602796

Thanks Jim
JimJ2Mz said:
DUDE YOU HAVE TO USE GAPPS DEDICATED FOR CM11 (4.4)!
That's a given. You're having errors due to the fact that you're using 4.2 gapps on 4.4!
Follow this guide and FIX EVERYTHING. I followed it myself it everything works perfectly.
Please do ask if you need help on anything. I may be a noob, but I do know some stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602796
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Thanks Jim, I will do this. Why do you think I was unable to go back to CWN recovery for 10.1/10.2 - everytime after flashing the old recovery and go into the recovery mode, I still see the ver.6 (of CM11) in action.
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[Q] Need general advise for S5830

I kind of messed up a bit with my Galaxy Ace S5830, so I'm about to wipe it again. But after thinking about it, I was wondering if there's a bit more that can be done for this legacy device aside of installing CM.
I first had CM 7.2.0 stable installed and overall it went fairly well for daily use, except for just a couple of issues: default camera not having zooming function, and this other issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596926
On IRC (cyanogenmod channel) I was told this probably could be due to Ace's awfully limited amount of RAM, which caused the updating app to not be able to temporarily store in RAM and use some of internal sotrage (limited as well), resulting in more and more internal storage consumed each time an update was performed. Or so I understood...
Also I noticed there are a few nightlies after stable CM version 7.2.0
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=cooper
So, questions would be:
1. If I'm to install CM7, which one should I pick, stable 7.2.0 again, or latest nightly? I think I once read comments that latest build fixed some minor bugs and was actualyl good, but I do care a lot about stability and the Wikia site says nightlies are unstable.
2. Is there something I could do for the updates/storage issue?
3. Is there default zoom for camera on CM7, or would I have to download another camera app?
4. I've seen there are now some CM 9, 10, 11, etc builds for S5830, but they are unofficial and in the IRC I was told unofficial was generally not that good (and potential malware). Should I better stick with CM7, or is there by chance an "official" CM 9, 10, 11 mod?
Thanks beforehand.

ctcx said:
I kind of messed up a bit with my Galaxy Ace S5830, so I'm about to wipe it again. But after thinking about it, I was wondering if there's a bit more that can be done for this legacy device aside of installing CM.
I first had CM 7.2.0 stable installed and overall it went fairly well for daily use, except for just a couple of issues: default camera not having zooming function, and this other issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596926
On IRC (cyanogenmod channel) I was told this probably could be due to Ace's awfully limited amount of RAM, which caused the updating app to not be able to temporarily store in RAM and use some of internal sotrage (limited as well), resulting in more and more internal storage consumed each time an update was performed. Or so I understood...
Also I noticed there are a few nightlies after stable CM version 7.2.0
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=cooper
So, questions would be:
1. If I'm to install CM7, which one should I pick, stable 7.2.0 again, or latest nightly? I think I once read comments that latest build fixed some minor bugs and was actualyl good, but I do care a lot about stability and the Wikia site says nightlies are unstable.
2. Is there something I could do for the updates/storage issue?
3. Is there default zoom for camera on CM7, or would I have to download another camera app?
4. I've seen there are now some CM 9, 10, 11, etc builds for S5830, but they are unofficial and in the IRC I was told unofficial was generally not that good (and potential malware). Should I better stick with CM7, or is there by chance an "official" CM 9, 10, 11 mod?
Thanks beforehand.
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1. Flash your desired version... there'is a lot of rom in Android Development section... Nightly doesn't mean unstable :silly:
2. Storage issue?... AFAiK CM7.x/9.x/10.x/11 haven't got any storage issue...
3. Our camera hasn't optical ZOOM... digital zoom is as if you enlarge a picture when you're seeing it in the gallery... anyway you can't do digital zoom using any CM camera.
4. Unofficial doesn't mean that the file contains potential malware...

Thanks mr Viper.
There's quite a lot of stuff in the Android Development section, maybe too much for me to process...
Although, from what I managed to see, @Mardon's roms -specially his CM11 rom- would rise my hopes high, if his roms weren't in alpha/beta stages and he could work on them more often.
However there's another rom that looks promising to flash right now, @Rhievaldo's CM9. From what I read in its thread, it looks functional enough for daily use. It's a shame that seemingly he's put its development on hiatus; would be great if those remaining issues could be fixed (compass, weather in lockscreen, etc).
@Viper The Ripper, in your experience, would you advise for 1 or 2 CM roms for S5830 in particular?
Also, do I need stock rom before flashing a CM rom, or can I just wipe data, cache, system? Do all CM roms come pre-rooted, or do I need to root beforehand?
Thanks again.
P.S.: regarding the "storage issue", I did leave a link to a previous thread started by me to explain what I meant, if you see it...

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ctcx said:
I kind of messed up a bit with my Galaxy Ace S5830, so I'm about to wipe it again. But after thinking about it, I was wondering if there's a bit more that can be done for this legacy device aside of installing CM.
I first had CM 7.2.0 stable installed and overall it went fairly well for daily use, except for just a couple of issues: default camera not having zooming function, and this other issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596926
On IRC (cyanogenmod channel) I was told this probably could be due to Ace's awfully limited amount of RAM, which caused the updating app to not be able to temporarily store in RAM and use some of internal sotrage (limited as well), resulting in more and more internal storage consumed each time an update was performed. Or so I understood...
Also I noticed there are a few nightlies after stable CM version 7.2.0
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=cooper
So, questions would be:
1. If I'm to install CM7, which one should I pick, stable 7.2.0 again, or latest nightly? I think I once read comments that latest build fixed some minor bugs and was actualyl good, but I do care a lot about stability and the Wikia site says nightlies are unstable.
2. Is there something I could do for the updates/storage issue?
3. Is there default zoom for camera on CM7, or would I have to download another camera app?
4. I've seen there are now some CM 9, 10, 11, etc builds for S5830, but they are unofficial and in the IRC I was told unofficial was generally not that good (and potential malware). Should I better stick with CM7, or is there by chance an "official" CM 9, 10, 11 mod?
Thanks beforehand.
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Hi There,
Well Stable would be my preference for daily use.
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