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[Q] Moonshine or Revolution?

Hi guys, about to S-Off, which version is better as I know each version provides the end result differently, i.e hacked hboot etc, can anyone provide the Info for each version please.

Both are very published and will work.
I personally used revone because I wasn't near a pc (it can be done in terminal emulator) I think that moonshine is less buggy by looking at the posts in that thread. You just have to have knowledge of Linux live cds which are a breeze to use.
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I personally used rev's version cos that was what I saw first. I'm not too sure who the moonshine group are, but I do know Revolution

Used revone, super easy.
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barondebxl said:
Used revone, super easy.
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Ditto.

My vote goes to revone. As simple as 1, 2, 3.

Revone. Doesn't require linux and firmware version doesn't matter.
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spitfire2425 said:
Revone. Doesn't require linux and firmware version doesn't matter.
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Agreed.
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+ 1 revone was so easy did it from terminal 4 am drunk no joke
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

Good Thread OP. i would like to know also if there are any differences in the finished product..Any advantages to one or the other Once S-off is obtained...
Yes the rev is way easier but...... i went with moonshine because of 1 statement from the revone op..
ieftm said:
What is "EARLY ACCESS PREVIEW"?
We want to give you S-OFF as soon as practically possible so an early access preview release is not a polished product but it does work (mostly).
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That kind of made my mind up for me. What parts are not working would be my question...or what isnt working as good as you want it to?
What will a polished product that always works be like compared to a non polished version that mostly works..
Fuses and Beaups held out for weeks testing to make sure there wasnt any issues. for that I drink moonshine
I used ubuntu live CD and was done in 5 minutes.

ArmedandDangerous said:
I personally used rev's version cos that was what I saw first. I'm not too sure who the moonshine group are, but I do know Revolution
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Fuses who's part of the moonshine group is also known as JuopunutBear of unlimited.io group. Not sure why they've seperated though...

I used revone because moonshine don't support my device.
If you just try to S-On with moonshine, I heard you can brick your device due to the custom hboot, but I haven't verified that.
revone seem to have a more cautious approach to their wording, but that's not to take anything away from moonshine.

i used revone. Took 2 minutes including download + terminal emulator time. As far as I can tell, the only difference is the moonshine custom hboot. I can flash my own hboot though.

Rev
Reasons
1. Works on any Terminal
2. Does not require Unlocked
3. Had tamper resets and lock reversal clearly built in

As I'm used to doing the S-OFFs by Revone, I used theirs.

[Answerd] S-OFF ???

Ive been looking around for s-off instructions and all im finding is Moonshine. Is this the only method available? Thanks

Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
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Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2319412

I'm wondering when the 1-click will be here. I've reached an age where tinkering with it and the "maybes" kind of freak me out, ha.

Magnum20 said:
Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
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Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2319412
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Thank you Magnum, tried both methods with no luck so I just popped the cork with Moonshine and it worked like a charm. Thanks again

lehalter said:
I'm wondering when the 1-click will be here. I've reached an age where tinkering with it and the "maybes" kind of freak me out, ha.
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I mean no offense by this but if you need a one click method, then maybe s-off isn't for you. There are plenty of maybes that come with s-off. With revone all it takes is a few commands in terminal emulator. Takes about 3 minutes.
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drlzanej said:
Ive been looking around for s-off instructions and all im finding is Moonshine. Is this the only method available? Thanks
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Glad you made it over here man
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tristandespain said:
I mean no offense by this but if you need a one click method, then maybe s-off isn't for you. There are plenty of maybes that come with s-off. With revone all it takes is a few commands in terminal emulator. Takes about 3 minutes.
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You assume too much. I have no problem flashing and what not. I originally rooted my Evo with the original root methods. That took 45 minutes. I knew/know the risks associated.
The reason I am waiting for the 1 click is that is a refined process, meaning they have all or the majority of the bugs worked out. I could honestly care less about brioking my phone. My insurance plan gives me a new phone whenever I want with no deductible...I just don't want to go through the process. By the time 1 click is ready, the development community will have progressed to the point where most ROMs are fully functioning. At this point, flashing would be for flashing sake. I am past that point.

We probably won't have a one click.
How can we all help make life easier for you.... Read the instructions, don't ask questions and if thinking it can be made easier, do it and then share.
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drlzanej said:
Thank you Magnum, tried both methods with no luck so I just popped the cork with Moonshine and it worked like a charm. Thanks again
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^^^^^As said earlier,^^^^^I used Moonshine to get s-off, thats about as one click as its gonna get i think. Really easy.

agree
Yeah dude I tried the Revon method last night and somehow it really messed mine up.. I ended up having to run the ruu and put my phone back to factory.
lehalter said:
I'm wondering when the 1-click will be here. I've reached an age where tinkering with it and the "maybes" kind of freak me out, ha.
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frankk1979 said:
Yeah dude I tried the Revon method last night and somehow it really messed mine up.. I ended up having to run the ruu and put my phone back to factory.
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When i tried the Revone it wouldnt run in terminal dont know why, just wouldnt. Iwas kinds leary about the moonshine method, was readng that people were having difficulty. Further reading i noticed that the ones that had the best results were the ones that were bone stock (unlocked and rooted of course). Give it a shot man. Read the last couple pages of the thread. Alotta good info there.
If you do get stuck where it says Moonshining<1> .....................etc. just manually reboot your phone and it'll finish. Hope this helped. Later ,,,,,,

Try the Moonshine and make sure to do a manual reboot through the stages - its really simple.

[Q] HELP with bootlooping please

So I was trying out different ROMS on my HTC ONE with sprint. But now no matter what rom i try, it bootloops withing less then a minute. I have even tried the most stable version of cyan... I do not have s-off.... This is my first HTC root and never had to mess with that in the past ... could this be my issue? and if so... how can i get s-off when i cant keep the phone on for longer then a minute

shawnd44 said:
So I was trying out different ROMS on my HTC ONE with sprint. But now no matter what rom i try, it bootloops withing less then a minute. I have even tried the most stable version of cyan... I do not have s-off.... This is my first HTC root and never had to mess with that in the past ... could this be my issue? and if so... how can i get s-off when i cant keep the phone on for longer then a minute
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/facepalm
List of ROMs you installed while "trying out different ROMs". Nine to ten odds you accidentally grabbed something out of the international forums.
Either way, you will likely need to RUU to stock.

More information please. Are you rooted? Do you have a custom recovery? Which is it? Have you tried to access your recovery? If you can get into recovery, you can flash a new ROM, if you have one in memory. If not, you can sideload one. And as the guy above posted, what ROMs have you tried to flash so far? You cannot flash any ROM that does not specifically say m7spr in the title. Ours is a different device, regardless of how they are the same hardware.

shawnd44 said:
So I was trying out different ROMS on my HTC ONE with sprint. But now no matter what rom i try, it bootloops withing less then a minute. I have even tried the most stable version of cyan... I do not have s-off.... This is my first HTC root and never had to mess with that in the past ... could this be my issue? and if so... how can i get s-off when i cant keep the phone on for longer then a minute
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You should be s-off before flashing any third-part roms or recovery...
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j_rivers said:
You should be s-off before flashing any third-part roms or recovery...
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Incorrect. S-ON and custom works fine as long as you're not trying to make changes to /system during runtime.

Rirere said:
Incorrect. S-ON and custom works fine as long as you're not trying to make changes to /system during runtime.
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Correct until you have a bad flash or flash a GSM Rom and need to RUU.
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Konfuzion said:
Correct until you have a bad flash or flash a GSM Rom and need to RUU.
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Which to me is essentially the same as saying "a case is not necessary to your phone until you smash your phone." Bad flashes do happen, I'll admit that, but they're rarer than they used to be. Flashing the wrong ROM has basically always been a cause for problems, and people need to take more care not to do it to begin with.

Rirere said:
Which to me is essentially the same as saying "a case is not necessary to your phone until you smash your phone." Bad flashes do happen, I'll admit that, but they're rarer than they used to be. Flashing the wrong ROM has basically always been a cause for problems, and people need to take more care not to do it to begin with.
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Yeah you should live life from that stand point dont wrap it until you get someone pregnant. And if you think people arent flashing GSM roms often you need to lurk this forum more, its like a plague for the HTC One.

Konfuzion said:
Yeah you should live life from that stand point dont wrap it until you get someone pregnant. And if you think people arent flashing GSM roms often you need to lurk this forum more, its like a plague for the HTC One.
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Wow, talk about hyperbolic exaggeration. I'm well aware that people are being idiots and flashing GSM ROMs, but if you don't know what you're doing you're just as likely to screw up getting S-OFF or fail to do an RUU. The point is that no amount of precautionary measures are going to save someone from carelessness.

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Wow, talk about hyperbolic exaggeration. I'm well aware that people are being idiots and flashing GSM ROMs, but if you don't know what you're doing you're just as likely to screw up getting S-OFF or fail to do an RUU. The point is that no amount of precautionary measures are going to save someone from carelessness.
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Yeah that's true, I guess there has just been many times I am trying to help someone with a soft brick and I wished they had s-off.
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Konfuzion said:
Yeah that's true, I guess there has just been many times I am trying to help someone with a soft brick and I wished they had s-off.
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Certainly fair, but I wish they'd generally read more in the first place.

[Q] Switching from Android Revolution HD 13.4 to 21.0

Hi guys.
I recently flashed Android Revolution HD 13.4 onto my phone because I was unsure of v21.0 However, I saw that Blinkfeed can be removed on 4.3 so I figured I might give v21.0 a shot. However, I've heard there are a few issues with v21.0 but apparently it may vary between different members/phone.
So my first question is: what are some known issues so far?
My second question is: do I just flash v21.0 like I normally do with other roams?
Apparently, I might have to install different firmwares on my phone. However, the problem is to be able to do that, I need S-OFF. Unfortunately, my hboot is v1.54 so it seems my phone is no longer capable of achieving S-OFF status. Will this, overall, hinder my ability to upgrade to ARHD v21.0?
Cheers everyone.

s3330987 said:
Hi guys.
I recently flashed Android Revolution HD 13.4 onto my phone because I was unsure of v21.0 However, I saw that Blinkfeed can be removed on 4.3 so I figured I might give v21.0 a shot. However, I've heard there are a few issues with v21.0 but apparently it may vary between different members/phone.
So my first question is: what are some known issues so far?
My second question is: do I just flash v21.0 like I normally do with other roams?
Apparently, I might have to install different firmwares on my phone. However, the problem is to be able to do that, I need S-OFF. Unfortunately, my hboot is v1.54 so it seems my phone is no longer capable of achieving S-OFF status. Will this, overall, hinder my ability to upgrade to ARHD v21.0?
Cheers everyone.
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Known issues:
1- you need to enter APN manually
2- can't access SIM card contacts
You don't need to update firmware, it's optional.
Wiping is recommended since it's a new base, to avoid potential bugs.
Just do a nandroid and try it out
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I have s-on. Never remember seeing anything on the page that requires s-off. It was optional for both ROM. I just did 12.3 to 21.0 like a week ago with no problems. Contacts come from exchange and Gmail so I haven't noticed anything to report whatsoever. It has been rock solid on my One from at&t. I just backed up everything via Helium and restored. Tried Titanium and it was pure garbage and would kill my phone every restore attempt.
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Cheers to the both of you for the quick responses. It seems I might just be a little paranoid with all the different roms and such. Welp, since my warranty's now void with all the unlocking and rooting and such that I've done, I might as well go nuts with the flashing and what not. :laugh:

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Cheers to the both of you for the quick responses. It seems I might just be a little paranoid with all the different roms and such. Welp, since my warranty's now void with all the unlocking and rooting and such that I've done, I might as well go nuts with the flashing and what not. :laugh:
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22.0 will be out soon too, I figure over the weekend or next week.
Enjoy flashing
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nkk71 said:
22.0 will be out soon too, I figure over the weekend or next week.
Enjoy flashing
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Cheers buddy. Just one more quick question. What is a 'base'? I know it seems like an absurd question but there's a lot of jargon being used that I'm now pretty confused. :silly:

s3330987 said:
Cheers buddy. Just one more quick question. What is a 'base'? I know it seems like an absurd question but there's a lot of jargon being used that I'm now pretty confused. :silly:
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The base usually refers to which Android version the ROM is based on.
For the One, it started with 4.1.1 then 4.2.2 and now 4.3 (they're all JellyBean, just newer versions)
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s3330987 said:
Cheers buddy. Just one more quick question. What is a 'base'? I know it seems like an absurd question but there's a lot of jargon being used that I'm now pretty confused. :silly:
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The base usually refers to which Android version the ROM is based on.
For the One, it started with 4.1.1 then 4.2.2 and now 4.3 (they're all JellyBean, just newer versions)
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The base actually refers to the software version not android version. e.g the Skydragon rom im using is made from the 3.18.401.1 base from HTC. Hence if you hear someone talking about a new base its not a new android verson but a newer software build from HTC (uisually to iron out bugs and improve system performance)
Dont all hit thanks at once lol :laugh::laugh::laugh:

exocetdj said:
The base actually refers to the software version not android version. e.g the Skydragon rom im using is made from the 3.18.401.1 base from HTC. Hence if you hear someone talking about a new base its not a new android verson but a newer software build from HTC (uisually to iron out bugs and improve system performance)
Dont all hit thanks at once lol :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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I stand corrected. :banghead:
Base is the HTC version, which in turn is based on an Android version, my bad.
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nkk71 said:
I stand corrected. :banghead:
Base is the HTC version, which in turn is based on an Android version, my bad.
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U got it matey :good:

exocetdj said:
U got it matey :good:
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Cheers :thumbup:
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HTC ONE M7 Custom ROM issues

I have been using this forum for years and just now am posting for the first time.
I have a HTC ONE M7 originally from ATT that I used rum runner about a year ago to flash android HD which worked on the TMobile network about a year. Last month my phone went into bootloop and I could not flash a new rom or put any data on the internal storage at all. Long story short I used mkfs.ext4 to remount the data and no I can flash roms with no problem.
The issue I am having is that any rom(cyanogenmod,Viper,Android HD by Mike 1986) I flash just bootloops and wont load EXCEPT PAC-MAN pac_m7-lp-mr1-official-20150611.zip plus gapps. This load and run like a normal rom except the dialer doesn’t work, no sound, no video. It’s basically useless as far as doing anything other than playing a games and sending text messages. One more thing cyanogenmod will load but keeps resetting setup and if I push really fast I can get past the set up but will reset before i can really do anything.
I’m pretty much stumped at this point and any help is appreciated. Also my phone is S-On and using TWRP. Thanks advance.

insanitey1 said:
I have been using this forum for years and just now am posting for the first time.
I have a HTC ONE M7 originally from ATT that I used rum runner about a year ago to flash android HD which worked on the TMobile network about a year. Last month my phone went into bootloop and I could not flash a new rom or put any data on the internal storage at all. Long story short I used mkfs.ext4 to remount the data and no I can flash roms with no problem.
The issue I am having is that any rom(cyanogenmod,Viper,Android HD by Mike 1986) I flash just bootloops and wont load EXCEPT PAC-MAN pac_m7-lp-mr1-official-20150611.zip plus gapps. This load and run like a normal rom except the dialer doesn’t work, no sound, no video. It’s basically useless as far as doing anything other than playing a games and sending text messages. One more thing cyanogenmod will load but keeps resetting setup and if I push really fast I can get past the set up but will reset before i can really do anything.
I’m pretty much stumped at this point and any help is appreciated. Also my phone is S-On and using TWRP. Thanks advance.
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You cannot flash aosp roms unless your s-off.
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lambofgod13 said:
You cannot flash aosp roms unless your s-off.
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Says who?

donkeykong1 said:
Says who?
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Says every dev I've ever asked about it when i was attempting to flash their gpe or aosp roms.
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Says every dev I've ever asked about it when i was attempting to flash their gpe or aosp roms.
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How do you explain my s-on M7 running CM ROM then?

donkeykong1 said:
How do you explain my s-on M7 running CM ROM then?
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The thread here was asking why he was having issues, it is known that if your s-on you will and can have major problems on gpe and aosp roms, I'm not here to argue with you. If your not contributing to helping him then why are you commenting on his thread?
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lambofgod13 said:
The thread here was asking why he was having issues, it is insured l known that if your s-on you will and can have major problems on gpe and aosp roms, I'm not here to argue with you. If your not contributing to helping him then why are you commenting on his thread?
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My point is that you can run AOSP ROMs on s-on phone. The fact that all those ROMs have bugs does not have anything to do with security status of the phone

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My point is that you can run AOSP ROMs on s-on phone. The fact that all those ROMs have bugs does not have anything to do with security status of the phone
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it's about the unsecured bootloader. *Htc *won't allow the phone to install unsecured... IE: non htc signed firmware, *if the bootloader is secured.So, *if you are installing a modified htc firmware, *it's okay.. But when you go to install aosp, *htc doesn't recognize that as legitimite firmware. Quoted from a dev that makes both sense and gpe/aosp roms. Go argue with him.
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You will find a couple of them that will work and some won't work, depends on how the dev signed the rom.
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it's about the unsecured bootloader. *Htc *won't allow the phone to install unsecured... IE: non htc signed firmware, *if the bootloader is secured.So, *if you are installing a modified htc firmware, *it's okay.. But when you go to install aosp, *htc doesn't recognize that as legitimite firmware. Quoted from a dev that makes both sense and gpe/aosp roms. Go argue with him.
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You will find a couple of them that will work and some won't work, depends on how the dev signed the rom.
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Can you please provide a link to something that explains unsecured bootloader? This is the first time I hear about that. And this is a legitimate question, not arguing in any way. I just want to learn

donkeykong1 said:
Can you please provide a link to something that explains unsecured bootloader? This is the first time I hear about that. And this is a legitimate question, not arguing in any way. I just want to learn
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Yeah, i don't have time to look it up. I know that's the case because when i was s-on i would have trouble with aosp roms, now that I've been s- off I've never had trouble. Look around the threads you'll see allot of info on it. Sorry i don't have time to find it for you.
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The thread here was asking why he was having issues, it is known that if your s-on you will and can have major problems on gpe and aosp roms
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You don't need s-off to flash any roms (as opposed to a Firmware/RUU).
If your not contributing to helping him then why are you commenting on his thread?
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Because you are giving incorrect information which could confuse the OP of this thread, even if I know you have good intentions and only wants to help him. Giving clarifications to avoid confusion is a contribution.
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it's about the unsecured bootloader. *Htc *won't allow the phone to install unsecured... IE: non htc signed firmware
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Right, you can't install an unsigned firmware on a s-on (secured) bootloader but a ROM is not a firmware. A rom is only flashing on the /system /data and /radio partitions which can easily be flashed with whatever you want as long as you have an unlocked bootloader, there is no htc signature needed to flash these partitions (and the recovery partition). Anyway, the signature verification is disabled when you unlock the bootloader (hence why you need to relock the bootloader if flashing a firmware or RUU on a S-ON phone)
The firmware contain the hboot, adsp, secondary bootloaders, drivers, etc... The official firmware is signed with HTC key and can be flashed on a S-ON phone + locked or re-locked bootloader. An unofficial/modded firmware (firmware is not a rom) can only be flashed on a S-OFF phone.
So in short, you don't need S-OFF to flash a rom, a recovery or a radio. These partitions are not secured.
*if the bootloader is secured.So, *if you are installing a modified htc firmware
*it's okay.. But when you go to install aosp, *htc doesn't recognize that as legitimite firmware. Quoted from a dev that makes both sense and gpe/aosp roms. Go argue with him.
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I'll be more than happy to talk with this dev. You have probably misinterpreted what he said.
depends on how the dev signed the rom.
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No...
Btw not trying to be rude with you and I hope you understand the difference between firmware/roms S-OFF/S-ON now. If not clear I'll be happy to answer your questions.
Now back to the OP
@insanitey1 can you post the output of "fastboot getvar all" (don't post your imei/sn). Also need to know what recovery (name + version) you are using.
Roms based on CM must be flashed using at least twrp 2.7.1.1. All Sense based roms must be flashed with least twrp 2.6.3.3. Also , all newer Sense roms (lollipop versions) need one of the latest(7.xx.xxx.x) firmware version( or version-main if you prefer) installed on your phone You can see your version-main when booted in the bootloader menu or from the "fastboot getvar all" output.