I have seen many developers working for Xperia SP and I am glad many ROMS have come on Xperia SP.
The device SP and L came around the same time and I understand Xperia SP is better in few aspects but Xperia L is great too.
One thing that really to be concened about is lack of CUSTOM ROMS on Xperia L. Further to misery of Xperia L, there is still ZERO working ROM build from SOURCE till yet. NO CM, NO PAC, NO AOKP or anything till date.
No standalone recoveries either!
As you know it's almost six months since Xperia L and SP have been in the market.
I wanted to know why is there so lack of love for Xperia L from developers. I have Xperia L and I am seriously considering about selling the device and buying a new one. I feel like I made a mistake when I could buy Z, L or SP.
Any developer who could be of help to Xperia L ?
Do you consider Xperia L wouldn't go a long way in development ?
You need to speak to doomlord and offer to help with testing then you will see great things happen.......
Many devs only have certain devices, can only build, make, develop with help from testers. So to make big help offer to test,give log reports etc
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You can asking @uberlaggydarwin for that. I think it have plan to working on xperia L too later. Not for now i guess.
Do you want to know something? Before uber, adfad, and kali working in cm for xperia sp, this forum section is really bored.
Same like you i've ever thing too changed my devices.
But this forum section is changed when those guys released and published working cm10. Many devs showed up, almost all aosp custom roms is available in a few days.
So you can kindly ask them for working on your devices, because they're awesome!
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I have to agree with this. There is a SERIOUS lack of development on xperia L. I just hate to think of selling this phone, becuase I got for an fairly cheap price and it comes with great specs. I don't get why the devs aren't interested cause tbh there's not 'much' difference from SP, well there are a couple things but yeah.. this is a great device just like sp and it DESERVES to be treated just like sp. And as for uberlaggydarwin it's nice to know that he's working on CM for Xperia L, I've been following his G+ posts and he seems to be working on it at times however he hasn't got his hands on the device as yet.. so yeah. Hopefully if any TRUSTABLE and EXPEREINCED devs are interested in purchasing this phone, I'd be more than happy to donate.
Hnk1 said:
I have seen many developers working for Xperia SP and I am glad many ROMS have come on Xperia SP.
The device SP and L came around the same time and I understand Xperia SP is better in few aspects but Xperia L is great too.
One thing that really to be concened about is lack of CUSTOM ROMS on Xperia L. Further to misery of Xperia L, there is still ZERO working ROM build from SOURCE till yet. NO CM, NO PAC, NO AOKP or anything till date.
No standalone recoveries either!
As you know it's almost six months since Xperia L and SP have been in the market.
I wanted to know why is there so lack of love for Xperia L from developers. I have Xperia L and I am seriously considering about selling the device and buying a new one. I feel like I made a mistake when I could buy Z, L or SP.
Any developer who could be of help to Xperia L ?
Do you consider Xperia L wouldn't go a long way in development ?
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@uberlaggydarwin is working on device bring up for xperia L. Once that is done, you'll see Roms popping up throughout your forum.
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You need to speak to doomlord and offer to help with testing then you will see great things happen.......
Many devs only have certain devices, can only build, make, develop with help from testers. So to make big help offer to test,give log reports etc
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I am in talks with DoomLord and I hope he has great news for Xperia L members!
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This is a brilliant device. Unfortunately so few development going on...
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This is a brilliant device. Unfortunately so few development going on...
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It is brilliant, so brilliant that I moved to this from my Nexus 4. Sony UI is something I can live with for a very long time due to everything being minimalistic and close to stock but better than stock in every way. If I wanted better development I would move back to Nexus 4 in a heart beat but I don't think I will ever go back to Nexus.
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I agree
Its so bad that this device hasnt got the attention it deserves. I have pm krabbapel and he said he was going to make his carbon rom in the future, and doomlord said he didnt have the device so he wont be developing for it
FXP are already developing an CM rom for the ZR so this is a good start
I do agree even though SONY has its flagship Z1 Z and Z ultra, this is the sleeping giant workhorse that they need to highlight.
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It is brilliant, so brilliant that I moved to this from my Nexus 4. Sony UI is something I can live with for a very long time due to everything being minimalistic and close to stock but better than stock in every way. If I wanted better development I would move back to Nexus 4 in a heart beat but I don't think I will ever go back to Nexus.
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Same here, I came from a Galaxy Nexus (Nexus S, Nexus One, and HTC G1 before that) and although I prefer stock Android, it lacks so many features. I found Sony's UI clean and refreshing without trying too hard. I haven't found a need to root this baby yet. My ZR on 4.1 does way more than my GNexus on 4.3 (minus the root features of course) out of the box. The small apps and killer camera are the icing on the cake. With that said, I like Sony's design and UI that I'm willing to upgrade my nexus 7 to an Xperia Tablet Z in the near future.
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Its so bad that this device hasnt got the attention it deserves. I have pm krabbapel and he said he was going to make his carbon rom in the future, and doomlord said he didnt have the device so he wont be developing for it
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It might be a long shot, but it was successfully done with the Oppo find 5 and the Faux Kernal...(I think!)
What they did was organise a donation fund to get Faux the phone...after that he was happy to develop his kernal for the phone.
Perhaps you could give Doomlord a poke to see if he would be willing to accept such a thing and then ask the ZR community to take part? (Or maybe ask the ZR people first to see if they would do it...then see if Doomlord would accept...)
Random idea, could work...
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It might be a long shot, but it was successfully done with the Oppo find 5 and the Faux Kernal...(I think!)
What they did was organise a donation fund to get Faux the phone...after that he was happy to develop his kernal for the phone.
Perhaps you could give Doomlord a poke to see if he would be willing to accept such a thing and then ask the ZR community to take part? (Or maybe ask the ZR people first to see if they would do it...then see if Doomlord would accept...)
Random idea, could work...
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xperia sp forum members donated funds to doomlord, and he developed for xSP maybe you could ask him first if he's on to the idea
+1.
Nice idea for our future.
I remember DoomLord replied that he probably won't be developing for XZR since he doesn't own the device.
Not sure if donation can help that though...
with such good specs at a low price i dont get why this is a low activity device...:crying:
yeah.. i think we can blame sony itself for this problem... I really like the ZR and I have it now.. been so satisfied with it... but, yeah, too few development.. and it will get only worst because sony will be launching the z1 mini.. which is really comparable to the zr... sony is trying to follow samsung - flooding the market with too many models that are closely similar to one another..
if someone heads up a donation box for Doomlord for him to buy the zr, I would gladly donate 50 dollars...
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I remember DoomLord replied that he probably won't be developing for XZR since he doesn't own the device.
Not sure if donation can help that though...
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well try pm-ing doomlord about "donating" him a phone maybe its okay with him
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with such good specs at a low price i dont get why this is a low activity device...:crying:
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its not available everywhere, if this continues (very few users and low development) the device will end up like the acro S look at the Acro S forums+ the fact that almost no RC or RD or RT are present in XZR forum makes it more likely that development will die after fxp supports ends
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well try pm-ing doomlord about "donating" him a phone maybe its okay with him
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its not available everywhere, if this continues (very few users and low development) the device will end up like the acro S look at the Acro S forums+ the fact that almost no RC or RD or RT are present in XZR forum makes it more likely that development will die after fxp supports ends
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there's 4 page development on Acro S! It's not much but still for a phone that expensive yet doesn't seem to have any great hardware it's quite much developments!
but for this phone that runs smoothly and better comparing to Xperia Z, ZL and has less size and less resolution (about 1/4 times which makes battery run double times) and less mass I think this device get fairly low attention comparing to others!! even for a developer this one must be much more exciting than Xperia Z!
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there's 4 page development on Acro S! It's not much but still for a phone that expensive yet doesn't seem to have any great hardware it's quite much developments!
but for this phone that runs smoothly and better comparing to Xperia Z, ZL and has less size and less resolution (about 1/4 times which makes battery run double times) and less mass I think this device get fairly low attention comparing to others!! even for a developer this one must be much more exciting than Xperia Z!
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sort of, however, sony priced the zr as if a flagship. truth to be told, it's marketed as a flagship in japan (xperia a), and it's no slug. still, with the relatively small price difference between z and zr, it's easy to see why people will get the z instead. the z is also released 6 month earlier.
besides, zr isn't released in as many markets as z.
as i've said before, since zr shares much with z, as long as development for z is there, zr will likely be supported as well, but without a dedicated dev using zr him/herself, it's hard to picture a very good development environment.
unless sony discount the zr significantly very soon. this is likely to continue.
(before you ask, japanese seem to have their own commnity and aren't participating in xda, so their large nos. mean nothing to us)
Why worry.. as long as there is Z development, we can port almost EVERYTHING to ZR (including ROM's an Kernels)
One more reason is that people who do contribute are not thanked properly I think.
totally agree
well i had a few devices before and now i have htc one s S4, galaxy s4, xperia ZR, iphone 5
before xperia ZR between all of my phone i would stand and say htc one s and iphone 5 have best batteries between my devices, between xperia x8, xperia acro S, Xperia go, xperia V, galaxy S3, iphone 5, galaxy s4, but now i can say ZR beat my one S battery and not only on battery it beats the battery on my one s it beats the performance of S4 it beats the options of all of my previous xperia phones, and when it comes to heat it even beats the hell out of my iphone too it hardly produce any heat in my hands specially compared to xperia V and galaxy s4.
this is an amazing device guys no doubt about it but why were we looking for development in the first place? when we had good hardware and sh**** software with cra*** software support we would come here and look for help, but we still have updates and support and this device is almost (not fully) complete it doesnt need overclock it doesnt need more battery saving options it doesnt need so much bug fixes.
the only thing it need is a better front camera which is impossible with firmware and kernels so most of all a few ports and customizations remains which is not totally important right?
when i first had my xperia acro S it didnt have any custom firmware for a very long time the only thing was available = rooting my device! believe me for a very long time it was like this.
so my advice is to take your time guys relax if something came out use it if not dont be disappointed you wont miss so much you still have a great device with so many good things on it.
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this is an amazing device guys no doubt about it but why were we looking for development in the first place?
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I absolutely agree!! Even I found nothing in the kernel to tweak
dragunov_lq said:
well i had a few devices before and now i have htc one s S4, galaxy s4, xperia ZR, iphone 5
before xperia ZR between all of my phone i would stand and say htc one s and iphone 5 have best batteries between my devices, between xperia x8, xperia acro S, Xperia go, xperia V, galaxy S3, iphone 5, galaxy s4, but now i can say ZR beat my one S battery and not only on battery it beats the battery on my one s it beats the performance of S4 it beats the options of all of my previous xperia phones, and when it comes to heat it even beats the hell out of my iphone too it hardly produce any heat in my hands specially compared to xperia V and galaxy s4.
this is an amazing device guys no doubt about it but why were we looking for development in the first place? when we had good hardware and sh**** software with cra*** software support we would come here and look for help, but we still have updates and support and this device is almost (not fully) complete it doesnt need overclock it doesnt need more battery saving options it doesnt need so much bug fixes.
the only thing it need is a better front camera which is impossible with firmware and kernels so most of all a few ports and customizations remains which is not totally important right?
when i first had my xperia acro S it didnt have any custom firmware for a very long time the only thing was available = rooting my device! believe me for a very long time it was like this.
so my advice is to take your time guys relax if something came out use it if not dont be disappointed you wont miss so much you still have a great device with so many good things on it.
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This is EXACTLY why I'm still on locked BL! but anyway our device has lack of roms like Cyanogen Mod, AOSP, PAC MAN, AOSPA (Paranoid) and also bug free miui port! (which I like Pranoid and miui so much) I'm currently working on a port for miui (stock based one) but this is something hard to get! currently I'm getting bootloop at kernel and as I don't want to unlock my bootloader (I love BE2 ) it's really hard to get it booting, and I'm not sure if any developer wants to contribute or if I get any further than this but I'm trying to make it bookable at least
EDIT: good news is I just saw the miui boot screen, bad news is it's not more than 2 sec and still I don't have adb
EDIT: Do you guys have made or downloaded any rom based on stock 4.2.2? would you mind give me updater-script in your zip file /META-INF/com/google/android/updater-script
Thanks
EDIT: another good news is, got logcat ( have permission problems ) it would be great if anyone can give me an updater-script from downloaded or made stock rom (both 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 are welcome) please pm me
Hi
just wondering, is the phone to new or why isnt there almost any custom rom for this phone?
regards.
drumcodex said:
Hi
just wondering, is the phone to new or why isnt there almost any custom rom for this phone?
regards.
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It's shadowed by Z and ZL previously, and then Z Ultra and Z1 released not too long after ZR, plus ZR is released only in specific regions... so........ it's not standing out to the devs.
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It's shadowed by Z and ZL previously, and then Z Ultra and Z1 released not too long after ZR, plus ZR is released only in specific regions... so........ it's not standing out to the devs.
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Weird. Its a better phone than the z/zl but the z/zl gets all the attention
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it's only "better" because it uses the same hardware but a lower resolution so it doesn't have to power such a big screen and thus the overall speed is faster... it does not make it "better"...
the Z/ZL were released in April while ZR only started selling around mid-June.
also, they are available worldwide, and the Z is the first flagship of 2013 so naturally it will get the most attention, unlike the ZR which is only available in like... idk 15 countries? maybe less...
so unless there happens to be a dev who happens to have a ZR who happens to want to make custom roms for you and i to use for free, we won't be seeing much activity around here. just live with it... or get a Z/Z1/ZL... if you want custom roms i suggest u try CM... afterall most other custom roms are based on them anyway...
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so unless there happens to be a dev who happens to have a ZR who happens to want to make custom roms for you and i to use for free, we won't be seeing much activity around here. just live with it... or get a Z/Z1/ZL... if you want custom roms i suggest u try CM... afterall most other custom roms are based on them anyway...
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Or donate some money to a ROM developer. I donated some bitcoins to FreeXperia since us ZR owners couldn't use CM without them.
Hello everyone,I am ready to buy Xperia SP but I want to know some things first.
1.How good is the camera-screen??
2.Does OTG and MHL work like stock ROMS in CM11??
3.Are there any major bugs in CyanogenMod ROMs which will never be fixed??
4.Does the phone has problems with hardware??
Please answer as many questions as you can!
Why are buying xperia sp? I committed the biggest mistake of my life when I bought SP a few months ago. Sony has abandoned SP. I suggest you to buy Moto G 2014. I bought it for my sister and its amazing.
tj_droid said:
Why are buying xperia sp? I committed the biggest mistake of my life when I bought SP a few months ago. Sony has abandoned SP. I suggest you to buy Moto G 2014. I bought it for my sister and its amazing.
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I don't really care if Sony abandoned it.I will install CM11 so no problem for me
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Hello everyone,I am ready to buy Xperia SP but I want to know some things first.
1.How good is the camera-screen??
3.Are there any major bugs in CyanogenMod ROMs which will never be fixed??
4.Does the phone has problems with hardware??
Please answer as many questions as you can!
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1. Auto focus is cr*p. But It can sometimes take very good photos. Right now I'm using cm 11s camera app and It's quite good.
3. No, everything works well.
4. No.
AlienTechGR said:
I don't really care if Sony abandoned it.I will install CM11 so no problem for me
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Since sony has abandoned SP. The unofficial support is rather limited as there are no sources. On the other hand, moto G will get better support as motorola is already officially releasing lollipop and would probably upgrade moto g to atleast one more android upgrade.
New official update => Official Kernel source and Binaries and libraries => Better custom rom support
also custom rom support is coming to the end too, KK roms are being finalized and cm12 for daily usage is vague.
anyway, with PAC 4.4.4 phone is good, no bugs. For cm11 I experience random reboots, nav bar lag tho.
Hi guys,
I would like to ask if there is any new Xperia SP rom featuring Sony's apps, framework, theme, etc (Like xperia z2/3 stock rom) and running on Kitkat 4.4.4?
I'm really sad that there aren't many developers anymore who want to create this I'm sick of 4.3
Anyway thanks for reading!
My friend have LG G2 and use Cloudy G3, ported G3 rom with all features from G3....Does it have way to port Xperia M2/E1/E3 or Z series 4.4 for SP with all features
that would be great, but i think our device isn't that popular and there are no many devs interested to do this...
Gara91 said:
that would be great, but i think our device isn't that popular and there are no many devs interested to do this...
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That would be amazing...It's a shame though, because our device is really capable of running Kitkat :/
Deleunes254 said:
That would be amazing...It's a shame though, because our device is really capable of running Kitkat :/
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Of course it is capable... But sony gives us semy-finished android 4.3, i would be more than happy if we have good android 4.3, but we havn't... There are a lot worse phones that are runing stock 4.4.4...
I have never flashed so many roms on one phone and still no good rom with normal ram management and without home redraw...
Now i give up and go on official cyanogenmod and hopes for best...
I think cyanogenmod is last station until i got money for nexus 5 or something similar... ☺
Little off topic but i must say all that...
Sorry for my bad english...
Edit: one more thing...if our developers knew that there will not be an official kit kat maybe they would do more to port stock 4.4.4...we al waited for official and when our device get old SONY decided that we ar not capable... Uh...
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Of course it is capable... But sony gives us semy-finished android 4.3, i would be more than happy if we have good android 4.3, but we havn't... There are a lot worse phones that are runing stock 4.4.4...
I have never flashed so many roms on one phone and still no good rom with normal ram management and without home redraw...
Now i give up and go on official cyanogenmod and hopes for best...
I think cyanogenmod is last station until i got money for nexus 5 or something similar...
Little off topic but i must say all that...
Sorry for my bad english...
Edit: one more thing...if our developers knew that there will not be an official kit kat maybe they would do more to port stock 4.4.4...we al waited for official and when our device get old SONY decided that we ar not capable... Uh...
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I couldn't say it better myself! I love Sony but when I heard of abandoned Kitkat update, it felt like a knife in my back... The reason I'm not going for Cm 11 (or 12) is that I'm really used to sony's interface and apps :/ So it's kind of a bummer that we have to stick witch (good) 4.3 roms...
There should be a way to get people more attracted making SP roms...
And cool! Love the nexuses!
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I couldn't say it better myself! I love Sony but when I heard of abandoned Kitkat update, it felt like a knife in my back... The reason I'm not going for Cm 11 (or 12) is that I'm really used to sony's interface and apps :/ So it's kind of a bummer that we have to stick witch (good) 4.3 roms...
There should be a way to get people more attracted making SP roms...
And cool! Love the nexuses!
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To be pretty honest I am looking forward to develop a ROM for SP, but I can't seem to find the right resources to learn and start
Deleunes254 said:
I couldn't say it better myself! I love Sony but when I heard of abandoned Kitkat update, it felt like a knife in my back... The reason I'm not going for Cm 11 (or 12) is that I'm really used to sony's interface and apps :/ So it's kind of a bummer that we have to stick witch (good) 4.3 roms...
There should be a way to get people more attracted making SP roms...
And cool! Love the nexuses!
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I decided... Existenz is last station... I think this rom is the most stable one... I tried every rom and thats my opinion
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To be pretty honest I am looking forward to develop a ROM for SP, but I can't seem to find the right resources to learn and start
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I am not developer but...kernel is the biggest problem...if you can make kernel for sony 4.4.4, rom port shouldn't be that hard... So if you have free time and decides do start from beginning look at the kernel development...
I am not developer but...kernel is the biggest problem...if you can make kernel for sony 4.4.4, rom port shouldn't be that hard... So if you have free time and decides do start from beginning look at the kernel development...[/QUOTE]
You think so? Would love to try but i wouldn't have a clue myself...I'm not even a developer Maybe looking for someone? And then ask someone else to port the kitkatrom to sp?
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Deleunes254 said:
I am not developer but...kernel is the biggest problem...if you can make kernel for sony 4.4.4, rom port shouldn't be that hard... So if you have free time and decides do start from beginning look at the kernel development...
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You think so? Would love to try but i wouldn't have a clue myself...I'm not even a developer Maybe looking for someone? And then ask someone else to port the kitkatrom to sp?
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Me neither (b) but who can do that... Imagine xperia sp with stock 4.4.4...lockscreen, sony aps, bravia engine... All official Sony staffs and immersive mod when playing games...
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Me neither (b) but who can do that... Imagine xperia sp with stock 4.4.4...lockscreen, sony aps, bravia engine... All official Sony staffs and immersive mod when playing games...
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It sounds too good to be true
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It sounds too good to be true
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Yes but it is simple.... Sony could spend one more month to bring us all that... Xperia sp i good and unique phone... And they now killed music beat light in new album update....i love sony but next phone will be nexus...
Gara91 said:
Yes but it is simple.... Sony could spend one more month to bring us all that... Xperia sp i good and unique phone... And they now killed music beat light in new album update....i love sony but next phone will be nexus...
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True...true...ANyway I'm stuck on SP so I'm hoping and hoping
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908008
Can i port M2 stcok rom with this guide ?
Anyone here have any idea where to get android n developer preview rom for xperia z1 .
any possibility to built this fantastic rom for xperia z1.
Have you seen the mm it was buggy as heck lol. Even if there is android n on this phone i wouldnt get it imo. I would say stick to LP if you dont want bugs. If not then get a new phone i guess. Overall i doubt there would be unless sony releases sources again.
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