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Hello to everyone!
I have open this topic to tell everyone that I admire my phone. I care about it, and you do?
This thread is about you're expectations, doubts, positive and negative feedbacks.
It's all about Optimus Black.
As for me I'm waiting now for gingerbread update.
And I'm looking for a compatible headset for my lg.
Regards
Kris
Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA App
hardware is top,
software sucks.
quyTam said:
hardware is top,
software sucks.
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+1 for this
But as they say p970 it has goot hardware
Hardware, most are good except battery is suck (software prob i think) & VGA is very old, PowerVR 530... at first i was hoping 535 or 540. But well, i barely use my phone for games.
Very like the phone design, also I love IPS panel for sure
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good phone with some glitches
the phone is having a very good display, a great slim streamline body, the best front facing camera, the primary camera is having rich colors too.
however, what hangs the phone down is the bad s/w support, tinny(although loud) speakers,the LG Bloatware, fingerprint prone back panel and a bad battery. i have 2 charge it every night
and oh! the GPU is not powerful enough, i bought this phone mistaking the Sgx530 as the SGX540 (the one in the SGS). although, i don't regret buying it. primarily due to the awesome display
I bought this phone the P970 to replace my older GT i9000 Galaxy S1
Hardware wise i love it but software wise its not so good
So i bought a Galaxy S 2 as main phone
Even now when i hold the P970 in my hand this phone feels better and more comfortable fit than Galaxy S2
Dont get me wrong Galaxy S2 is probably the best android phone out there but the P970 aint that far behind I love both phones just Samsung have better on time updates
Its a shame if the P970 came shipped with Android 2.3 it would have been a massive hit
even my old service provider Tmobile dont have it listed now as one of their phones now online for sale anymore
LG have a lot to learn
Was speaking to LG support yesterday according to them the update we are all waiting for is ready on their end now it is being tested by service providers and once the approval is sent back to LG then it will be ready for people to update , they say it is imminent
I live in a hostel, and i have almost all smartphones in my building under a roof.
And all i can say about Optimus Black is that it has the best display out there in market. I have compared the 720p movies hand-on-hand with Sensation XE (htc flagship), Galaxy S2 (Samsung flagship) and Arc S (SonyErricson flagship). And not only me, but the owners of those mobiles themselves frankly admitted that Optimus Black is the most fabulous while watching movie.
And also another thing, many smartphones of today, when you use outdoors in sunlight, well, i've seen too many people keeping their palms on mobile to avoid direct sunlight falling on mobile. But with Optimus Black, i can see crystal clear in daylight without slightest discomfort.
Every mobile has its goods and bads, and i'm happy with my OB for the good it brings.
pros : slim, good material, wifi direct, nice display, the only one with neutral colors and pure white (better render than AMOLED), camera is also one of the best on phones market
cons : software, battery, 1gb of ram would have been better, no TV out, not dustproof
the worst thing after all for me is that we have to keep the phone ON to use alarms (is it the case for all androphones ?)
Ilko said:
the worst thing after all for me is that we have to keep the phone ON to use alarms (is it the case for all androphones ?)
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Yes, I think so.
I've had my OB for about two months now and I can't possibly state how happy I am with it !
It's great ! Isn't it just great, you guys ?
The battery lasts a lot more than my old Blackberry's, the display is huge, shiny and the colors are vivid. Game performance is astonishing and I love the Dolby mobile option for Music and Videos.
All in all, a great phone !
Hi OB users, I have been very tempted to buy this phone but I have a few questions that hopefully you can help me answer and decide whether or not it is a good decision to go ahead and buy it.
1.-I've heard battery life sucks, is this true? will it improve significantly if GB is ever released by LG (or maybe ICS will be the immediate update instead)?
2.-LG announced ICS will be released for OB, but I have also seen that LG has let down users many times with upgrades (e.g. GB), so do you still trust LG for keeping your HW up to date in terms of SW?
3.-If you could chose, would you chose again the OB or you would pass?
4.-Have you found HW limitations that have a direct impact over Android performance(amount of RAM, being only single core where the trend is to go dual or even quad)?
5.-Any last thoughts you could give me about your experience with this phone
Thanks in advance to everyone who took the time of reading my post, hopefully you can help me make the best decision.
Answers :
1 - battery life is normal, as any other 4" 1500mah phone, no better,no worse.
2 - Yes i trust about the release, but not the release "date".
3 - For single core, i will choose OB, my next pass is Galaxy Note at moment D), may be different when i actually changing from OB to any other device; but will wait for 3-4 months, OB meets all my need so far.
4 - 1080p video gives jerks, but 720p video runs very smoothly on OB. Haven't experienced much h/w limitations so far. [ i mean look at market, mobiles like Galaxy Y, Ace; Optimus One/Net; Defy etc occupy more than 70% of android phones, so a single core 1ghz 512mb RAM is not bad at all.. ]
5 - Display brightness and colour contrast is by far the best in whole era of smartphones, except LG PRADA 3 releasing this christmas.
It is a good option, as you may know is not the best out there, but it is a good one.
Everyone knows that smartphones are hungryphones, so it's almost the same issue to all devices. I do moderate use of it [2~3 hours calling, 2~3 hours music/gaming, about 1hour of wifi] daily and charge it every 2 days, so it's fine for me.
At the moment there is no single game that I tested and fail. Asphalt HD 6, PES 12, Fieldunners HD, GunBros [and playing online], Minigore, World of Goo, AngryBirds [all of them] and so on...
Display is a higher pro, 12pm at summer and sunniest day of the year still clearly see that display.
I'm not and android knower or anything, but in my opinion the only thing bad is SW updates or should I say no updates at all, but hey we have cm7 in good shape now and getting better
1. For me I find that the battery life of my OB can be quite erratic. Meaning sometimes it could last for 2days without charging, and sometimes the battery will just be depleted overnight (which is quite scary if you're using it as an alarm)
^Without me installing any new apps.
2. They promised, so they would have to get ICS out by hook or by crook or it will be very very bad publicity.
3&4. This I'm not too sure about myself. What I look for in a phone is it being slim and light, and a good camera. The OB is one of the thinnest phones at an affordable price. Maybe I would have gotten the Galaxy S2 or Droid Razr. So far I haven't seen it lag in heavy games like NOVA.
5. The screen is very good, colour accuracy is better than those AMOLED displays every other phone is using imo. the whites on the screen are realllllly white.
1.) Battery life definitely does not suck, it will last for 24 hours with Wi-Fi on, 3G off, 3-4 audio calls, 2 hour gaming, 3-4-5 browsing, Facebook, Messenger, Foursquare, Latitude open non stop, 30min-1h of navigation, 2-3 hours of music on the headphones, screen light on optimized (based on the light sensor ).
I know that some people wish that their Android's battery will last a week or so, but it's not 2001 anymore and these phones are not the 3310s anymore, so, IMHO, 24 hours is great, considering everything you're doing with it in that interval.
2.) Now that I've finally rooted it, I really don;t care. Yes, LG has been really delayed with the GB update, and that could possibly mean that it will delay the ICS release a lot, but that's what we have XDA for, right ?
3.) I would definitely choose the OB again. In my humble opinion it is the best price/performance ratio out there. Big screen, powerful single-core processor, enough ram to handle almost anything you throw @ it, the PowerVR GPU is a great video chipset, third best after MALI and Tegra on the market right now, all in all it's a great phone, and yes, there's always going to be a newer, better phone released, but for its price, the OB does it all.
4.)I kind of already answered that, I'll fill in additional details: There are almost no lags within the UI, the default LG Launcher is sometimes a bit laggy for half a second or so, but its just the launcher, not the phone. After replacing it with Launcher Pro for example, it performs beautifully. My Core i5 Desktop PC doesn't cycle through Windows that smooth :O The 720p playback is brilliant, no lag or other problems at all.
5.) Any last thoughts ? My personal conclusion after owning it and a SGSII for over 2 months now is this: it does 85-90% of what the SGSII does at almost half the price. Definitely a bargain !
Wish you luck with your new phone, regardless of what that will be.
Yes and no
It's like a good car with a bad driver on it... (Hardware and software) I suggest you to find a good car with a good driver Xpreia Neo V can be a good alternative...
if you want high end stuff I suggest you to wait panasonic's come back nearly april (will be presented at CES 2012)
there is also the "free thinking festival" about the OB
Thanks to everyone who read my post and dedicated some time to answer back. OB seems like a really good phone to me now, so hopefully, within the first 2 months of 2012 I might put my hands in one of those (or even sooner if I find it at a good price). Thanks again guys, you are much better than the people on the Acer tab A500 forum that I frequently check. Looking forward for more opinions
in a nutshell, if u want a brilliant 4 inch of screen estate, decent CPU nd a capable GPU,a sleek sexy and awesome looker, vivid camera and the best FRONT FACING cam,a great gesture controllable UI, go for op. Black. The software is no prob.
I had a tok wid MIUI and they confirmed immediate support for the device.also, the official GB will be available by jan latest.
If u want to hear glitches of this phone, am sorry to disappoint you....root nd delete the LG BLOATWRE,u wl hv 1day with heavy use.
I was watching this review on youtube and the guy mentions 2 issues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BbO5TI7Fg
1.-The phone overheats and becomes unbearable to hold
2.-Signal strenght decreases while holding it (similar to iPhone 4)
Could you guys share your experience in these 2 areas? I am thinking this guy might have received a faulty unit, but I just want to confirm. Thanks again guys.
sensei22 said:
I was watching this review on youtube and the guy mentions 2 issues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BbO5TI7Fg
1.-The phone overheats and becomes unbearable to hold
2.-Signal strenght decreases while holding it (similar to iPhone 4)
Could you guys share your experience in these 2 areas? I am thinking this guy might have received a faulty unit, but I just want to confirm. Thanks again guys.
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The phone may overheat when you use it while it is charging or if you're playing heavy games. My OB haven't heated up to a point thats unbearable to hold. Usually the camera area heats up. I believe that all slim phones heat up just like my friend's S2.
When it comes to signal, it's almost at par with nokia phones. With my Giorgio Armani phone, I can't even send sms inside my room, but with my OB, I can recieve and send sms anytime.
Had no such problems until now. Only heated once, but I was heavily multi-tasking atm, cooled down 2-3 minutes later. Regarding the signal, I had trouble with my old Sony Ericsson w960i and with my newer BB 8520 Curve inside this house, but the signal, even on 3G, on the OB is pure brilliancy !
Tips:
for browser use opera mobile for smooth hardware accelerated browsing.
for launcher use launcherpro. Its the smoothest launcher out there.
With all the above and CM7 the effect is my P970 is more responsive than my iphone4. Definitely worth the buy. Other good option with much tempting price is samsung galaxy W.
In my opinion its the BEST VFM out there...i m very satisfied with it!
3.-i would pass.
4.-hw is somewhat limited. gpu is weakest in competition. but games' generally working ok.
5.- sound quailty sucks. buy yourself a mp3 player with ob.
HW-wise the phone is unusable as a car navgiation. The GPS is incredibely inaccurate (50-100m difference is not a problem).
I never experienced overheating (yes, if you push it it's warm but not too much)
SW-wise the original firmware is quite buggy - there are problems with contacts associations, it happened that my phone stopped recieving SMS. There is no stable alternative, nor there is GB upgrade.
If I was considering buying the phone again, I would go for Nexus S, which costs nearly the same money, has larger community support, there is official ICS port and I can actually use it in my car.
hi all
my current phone is galaxy s2 and i would like to change my phone
so i'm thinking about the 4x is it a good phone, and as 4x user how do you think about it?
is really lg bad in update and as i read there is no real developer for lg phone!
yes here are no proper devolper for this phone.....but phone is good.....bright disply...sound high and phones look awsome...battery backup is best.......all the littel things ignored..hurry...purchase the phone
vijay2 said:
yes here are no proper devolper for this phone.....but phone is good.....bright disply...sound high and phones look awsome...battery backup is best.......all the littel things ignored..hurry...purchase the phone
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thank you
This phone make the best deal for gaming experience.
Other purpose (multimedia, browsing, document processing) is adequate.
If you like to take precision and advanced camera function, you may want to look another model.
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Why is browsing adequate? Is it better on the One X lets say?
I found browsing fast and as good as it gets.
is the camera that bad?
camera is good but not perfect need some software fixes...the phone is great and smooth but need more software support
if bootloader unlocks devs gonna make the best of this phone
DONT
i regret it.
bootloader and crappy lg support messed it up
One X all the way..
onex is good but have some serious touch problems and high temp overheat...
read my friend...
and this phone is new...give it some time
onex got almost morethan 1 year of rom cooking
i Hate Samsung for there bad quality in production "i have alot of problem with them" second thing both company have slow software support in my region
but at least Samsung have unlocked bootloader and HTC is very Overpriced here.
4X heats on gaming too..
and one year of rom cooking? they can. we cant.
my advice, go for s3.. or wait till someone uses an S4 pro chip and go for that..
but not optimus g.. that'll suck **** too
I'm still cheating on it with my p1i. But if you need an android phone, you can do (a lot) worse than this one. Battery life is good, when comparing it to other android phones I've tried... also compared to other tegra 3 devices.. Standby-time tends to be measured in days, which is as it should be (even if that hasn't been obvious for designers for a while for some reason). And battery life while running low-power apps also is good because of the companion core, and lack of in-built apps that use active focus, or keep requesting busy services too fast, etc. So playing music or streaming in the background, and so on, actually didn't draw much power.
So then you have basically the standby time of the second generation iPhones, while still also having the low power-draw while running modest tasks, or flipping through the menus. Seems to be intelligently set up when it comes to using cores when accelerating video, and running on hdmi out as well. That it's not pushing every core to full burn, and balance the running cores. I expect that this is not specific to this phone, though, and happens transparently on the chipset (and that it's the lack of active in-built apps in the background that makes the difference between this and the onex that I tried). On top of that you have apparently the best 3d performance in the shop, without the thing becoming a glowing hot potato in your hand after two minutes.
Menu system and standby screen with the circle unlock (that opens up directly to the app below, etc) also works well, imo. Would wish they did a bit more with it and let you customise it a bit more, though.
Did I mention it has a stereo-plug connector that's not in conductive rubber? That's lovely. Screen and edges I like better than the iPhone I was forced to use for a short while.
Also, optional and removable sd-slot. Thought that was standard nowadays, but no.
Negatives are.. no led blip when getting new messages. Is a bit strange, but saves me a lot of stress, strangely enough
Has no keyboard. And it's fricking huge (relatively speaking.. it's smaller than both the galaxy 3 and the onex.. :/ which makes it the smallest in this class.. fail.. ). If you open it up, the widest component is the module with the home-buttons. Next is the external modules for antenna, I think. The actual core chip with the bus-interface is less than half the thickness of the device. Battery is tiny inside the chassis as well. They could easily have fitted a slightly flatter but larger lithium-polymer battery inside that casing, and had twice the battery life on this thing.
So maybe one day, we'll get a device like this in a credit card sized ips panel. Grey or Tegra4 maybe? Should be possible in the current design as well, though.
Other than that - no odt text editor in Android yet. But I can spam twitter and facebook with every touch of my fingers. Otherwise, format support is good, and this phone doesn't force you to use specific applications via annoying vendor registry settings. Which is a mercy since the boot-loader is locked.
But lacking that smaller phone... since there unfortunately ARE NO PHONES LIKE THAT ON THE MARKET WHATSOEVER. Smaller phones also tend to be thicker. And the different manufacturers are competing with themselves on who can make the most iPhone-like iPhone copy. And have apparently decided that slide-out keyboards are evil... So with that in mind, this is probably the best you can get at the moment, since it's also the cheapest tegra 3 phone on the market. Frankly agonized a lot over buying it, but I'm not unhappy with it so far.
Also, a thing very very important with me, is that since its plastic and with patterns, I dont have to put it in a case, which will make it even bigger. I just use a screen protector and I am done!
even that i'm fully aware of the locked bootloader, i still bought it, because it has excellent hardware with a good price...
for the camera, im not using stock apps, and it is good
As I'm one of the many who couldn't get a N4 yesterday and need a new phone stat, I can pick this phone up for the same price as the N4 after you factor postage.
Is it a comparable option?
not even close..
dont buy this ._.
It certainly is. Besides the software being older on this phone u get removable memory and battery what is a big benefit already better for playing games because tegra 3 supports all the awesome games. Even thought the 4x and nexus 4 have the same screen size the nexus 4 do has a smaller screen since u have a black bar with home menu and bar symbols always being there and taking away real estate of the screen. U have like more like a 4.5 inch screen then actually 4.7. Besides the software I do not see any advantages that the nexus 4 has.
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This might help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981899
..honestly can't see any technical reason why people would want the n4 over either the lg4x or the nexus 7 (read: tegra 3 over Snapdragon). I mean.. it has worse media-playback, with higher battery drain. All of the media-functions that work at the same level will consistently draw more power to do so. Standby time is, and has been for ten years or so, a problem for all of Qualcomm's chips in the sense that individual components can't be unlinked and powered down while the larger module is powered on. Bus-transfer speeds is still a bottleneck when it comes to graphics.. The nexus 4 is a bit heavier and thicker as well, which is amazing considering the already large phone the 4x is (..strangely enough, it's also smaller than the onex.. Phones, LG.. not tablets!). There's also the usual (for qualcomm chipsets) higher SAR values, etc. And no external slot for an sd card, obviously, since the iPhone is so awesome and trend-setting, and all that..
What it does have is a lithium polymer battery instead of the lithium ion battery in the 4x. Wish LG would have made replacement lithium polymer cells for the 4x as well. Also, presumably a flashing indicator of some sort on the phone (the 4x doesn't have a blinking notifier if you get a message or miss a call, etc.). On top of that the nexus will, without a doubt, be forcibly bundled with the full google suite, and you will be encouraged to use those programs or else not use the phone at all, I bet. Already a problem on android that if you want to have your own mail-program or reader, it doesn't integrate well with the baseline services and notifications..
Same price? I got mine for $47 singapore. With a $35 plan
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Thanks people.
I managed to grab a HOX open box return for cheaper than both, it'll last me a month or two while I see if the N4 is all that. Oh and I'm buying sim free, not contract.
I was seriously thinking of this phone but the lack of custom roms really put me off, I really like to work through the roms and with my atrix I changed roms so often I barely used it
Thanks again.
Hi all,
I'm interested in what people think of their phone? I'm an interested buyer and know that talking to people here can be very useful before a purchase!
I bought a cool phone a few months ago but it has one terrible point - the battery is crap (1320mha). The S3 Mini has 'only' 1500mha but I notice in reviews it ranks really well for battery, more like a 1800-2000mha battery. I'm also very interested in AMOLED which doesn't use an LCD backlight. (more vivid colours, black uses tiny battery, white uses a lot).
Why I like this phone and might buy it:
- battery performs very well in online reviews, especially for web browsing which I need
- the latest Android, good specs for future upgrades
- AMOLED screen doesn't use battery-killing LCD backlight
- Good size for one hand, I'm a grown man but not a bear, my hands are not huge
Anything anyone would like to say about their phone?? Anything annoy you about your phone?
GSM Arena S3 Mini Battery Test:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-ga...hes-our-battery-tests-the-results-are-inside/
GSM Arena S3 Mini Specifications:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8190_galaxy_s_iii_mini-5033.php
I love this phone! Was after a decent upgrade for my Desire S and this is perfect!
My only real gripe is the power button...stupid place to put them on the side, as I sometimes turn it off when it's in my pocket! Never happened when it was on the top with my DS.
Also got over the low PPI which isn't actually THAT bad.
It's fast and is perfect size IMO.
My only real problem with this phone (coming from a Dream, a Cliq, a Vision, and a Doubleshot) is the lack of a hardware keyboard. Other than that, this device is great. Cyanogen just needs to leak us the recovery source code.
Would I recommend this phone to a new user? YES
Good Points
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Great Battery (with moderate usage I can get a day and a half out of it)
Front and Back cameras (Excellent for video calling)
Jellybean
Quick and responsive
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No notifications LED
Poor positioning of power button
Low internal storage (but fixable)
No flash (but fixable)
Poorish screen resolution (but not a big issue)
Awful email client
Bugs in jellybean
Lots of Samsung bloatware
Although there seems more bad than good with this phone once you root the phone you can sort out a lot of them. You can use bloatware remover to delete samsung's bloat. The internal storage limit can be fixed so instead of your apps being installed to the internal sdcard they get installed to the external sdcard. You can download flash for ICS from adobes archives. The main gripe I had was the lack of a notifications LED meaning you don't know if you've had a missed call if the screen is off. There is an app called NOLED which addresses this and other apps that flash your cameras LED. There are quite a few things I had to sort out before I was happy like getting a 3rd party keyboard as the inbuilt dictionary was rubbish and an installed widget called zoom messaging kept on crashing.
One problem the S3 Mini has is people will compare it to its big brother the S3. This is Samsung's fault for trying to pass this phone as a smaller version of the S3 when it is not. However it is still a very good phone in its own right.
You don't need to install additional apps to get flash light. There is widget called "assistive light" for it.
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My old Nokia N8, also amoled, had the screen 'always-on', but almost black and with the clock shown in dark grey so it used very little battery. This was a great idea imho, considering doing a mod to do the same on the S3 mini. This could integrate well with 4.2 and the lock-screen widgets.
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My old Nokia N8, also amoled, had the screen 'always-on', but almost black and with the clock shown in dark grey so it used very little battery. This was a great idea imho, considering doing a mod to do the same on the S3 mini. This could integrate well with 4.2 and the lock-screen widgets.
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Hey buddy. Yeah, that fits in very well with what I read about AMOLED, I read up on it recently as I because semi-convinced that the backlight in LCD screens are evil An organisation of companies involved in AMOLED production and development have a free PDF online which explains the technology simply and why it's better than LCD in their opinion. They did say that black on the screen uses very, very little energy but white uses a LOT of energy. So we would properly feel the benefits of the darker UI on Android with an AMOLED screen, whereas LCD would use the same amount of power regardless of the screen, so they claim.
I will definitely take your handy tip on the black screen and simple, grey clock...wish I could do that to my mobile broswer!
Does anyone use this phone as their main music player? How do you like it? My current phone has a music player that sounds much better than my iPod but the phone battery is terrible.
Also, would I be right in saying most people get about 1 day and a half out of the battery? I would like to use the phone for about 1hour-90 minutes of news reading, a couple of emails, 1 hour of music with earphones, 5 minutes of calls per day. With that my current phone cries like torture.
yes this are mid range phone and will update in lime pie someday
good battery bcoz of the novathor chipset.
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