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Hello Everybody..
I been itching to upgrade my phone and purchase an Android based phone since months and just when i was set to purchase Incredible S.. these dual cores start popping up.
I am not too much of a geek to fall for the dual cores straightaway, esp when the OS/Apps arent optimized for dual, still thought about considering Lg Optimus 2x as both are closely matched regarding the pricing in my area.
Preference:-
1) Battery
Need to have the battery lasting through the day on moderate/decent usage.
2) Camera
Cant ignore this aspect. Basically still photography. Videos shdnt be horrible either.
3) Ofc the sensible purchase Out of Incrdible S / 2x
Been reading lots of reviews and what not but still a little doubt remains.
Even though totally sold on the HTC Sensation.. the phone might not debut here for another month and a half and more importantly will open with a huge price difference (taking 2x/Incredible S in view)
Advice/Suggestions needed guys.
If you ask me, I will never buy LG phone.
I am HTC fan and I can tell you that Incredible S is one of the best HTC phones till now. My previous phone was Desire HD. Incredible S is much, much better.
Thanks greggy..
Oh and one more thing.. Camera is another thing which needs to be counted in.
Updating original post as well.
I have tried both. And send the LG back.
Camera, battery, software is crap.
I have bought an incredible now and it's absolutely cool.
Camera is quite good.
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Formel-LMS said:
I have tried both. And send the LG back.
Camera, battery, software is crap.
I have bought an incredible now and it's absolutely cool.
Camera is quite good.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
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Heyy I remember you from the Nexus One threads! Cool you're a Incredible S convert as well
I've just bought a new HTC Incredible S. Looks nice, however i realized that the phone signal drops 1 line if I grab the phone with my full hand sovering the top.
Anyway, what makes HTC better than the LG Optimus X2? I'm a fan of HTC.. but according to the features.. the X2 should be much better than our HTC
gregy74 said:
If you ask me, I will never buy LG phone.
I am HTC fan and I can tell you that Incredible S is one of the best HTC phones till now. My previous phone was Desire HD. Incredible S is much, much better.
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Same dilema here, but with the desire s instead of this!
Is dual core just overhyped?
also may i ask, why did you upgrade from a dhd to the incredible s?
Is it coz of battery?
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.. but according to the features.. the X2 should be much better than our HTC
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i believe the answer lies with the combo of a better optimised s/w + RAM.
Thanks to 'Formel-LMS' we have a comment from a user who tried his hands on both the phones. Thanks to him.
I've just bought a new HTC Incredible S. Looks nice, however i realized that the phone signal drops 1 line if I grab the phone with my full hand sovering the top.
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That's due to the incorrect way of holding the phone.
Basically Phones are never meant to be held with fingers anywhere near the antenna as that interferes with the signal reception..and i think that is exactly what happened with you.
spacescreamer said:
Preference:-
1) Battery
Need to have the battery lasting through the day on moderate/decent usage.
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Don't count on the dual-core chips having better battery life until a process shrink.
Formel-LMS said:
I have tried both. And send the LG back.
Camera, battery, software is crap.
I have bought an incredible now and it's absolutely cool.
Camera is quite good.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
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Same here. HD filming is also very nice, but takes a lot of SD memory.
Device is very fast,
Also the speed of the serviceprovider is very important. Check with others.
From Nameit's HTC Incredible s using XDA app!
i dont like the LG
gregy74 said:
If you ask me, I will never buy LG phone.
I am HTC fan and I can tell you that Incredible S is one of the best HTC phones till now. My previous phone was Desire HD. Incredible S is much, much better.
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same here, my previous one was HD2, love the S
Gihanfx said:
same here, my previous one was HD2, love the S
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I was stupid to buy LG 2x seeing positive reviews, everything is crap, phone is getting switched off on its own, too much hassel, i wont go for LG again
only positive thing about lg is root freindly, but i believe incredible s will come around, but i thought same for legend & it never picked up
Hi ppl
I have read this tread and realised that there have been a lot of dislikes about the LG optimus 2x. I am actually a user for both the 2x and Incredible S. so i can tell you the pros and cons for each phones...
Yes i have to admit when the LG came out fresh from the box it does have its flaws but it is mainly due to LG programmers... It hangs lags and self restart but after a firmware upgrade (10A to 10B) all these problems are gone! Now it is fast and smooth and it has not given me any problem since then!
Of course it is still not perfect! there are atill some flaws i will get back to that later...
Now to the HTC
firstly i have to admit the HTC sense do really make life easier! especially if you upgrade from 1 HTC to another HTC!
Apart from the usual Gmail sync that you get for all android phone, HTC sense actually automatically sync everything! settings, ringtones and including your SMS! This is a big plus point actually! Also sense makes contact management a breeze as you can link each contact to their email, face book, whatsapp...
This really help you see your things about your friends easily without the need of switching from one programme to another...
To sum up the pros and cons...
Pros for 2x
Camera both is 8mp but LG is much sharper and also in dark situation, LG actually uses its LED Flash to auto focus first so you will get sharp picture even in dark situation.
As compared to the HTC it does not perform well in dark situations and it does not use its LED to help focus the objects.
Also the flash on 2x is actually brighter then the dual LED on the HTC.
2x has full HD video recording while HTC is only 720p... 2x is really nice when it comes to video recording.
2x has built in 8GB of memory and it can still be further increased Via micro SD while HTC only has 1gb for programs...
LG has direct HDMI output and it really output to my TV at Full HD
LG has better sound quality speaker, it rings and sound much louder!
LG has better screen picture quality.
LG has better battery life compared to HTC. HTC can't last more then 10 hours without charging but LG can... Usually when my HTC die my LG still has about 20 percent.
Lg somehow has better signal level compared to HTC... this could be due to the fact that HTC tried to cut cost and put the Signal antenna to the battery cover so if you cover with your hands you will get a drastic signal drop.
cons for LG
Facebook integration is not as good as htc
thicker and heavier then htc.
Pros for HTC
HTC Sense! it is a really big plus point! it is really useful.
Better user experience... Examples are that you do not have to do screen unlock to skip the next music track when you are listening to music wherelse LG have to unlock the screen and go to the music menu to go to the next track!
Email SMS inbox can be seen on the screen without going into the program itself (again thanks to HTC sense widgets).
Cons
Sorry some of the cons are actually mention on the LG's pro for comparision.
examples are the camera and video recording are not as good as the LG.
Battery life is considerable less.
sometimes it is really sluggish (could be also due to the fact that htc sense is a resource eater!)
for now i can only report till here...
all i can say is HTC is really way ahead from all the competitor in android for its programming!
and also i prefer the build quality on the LG itself! it feels more solid!
PS. For all the people who has LG 2x and expericeing hanging please just do a simple upgrade of firmware as it really improve and solve all the problems.
I hope this helps!
Optimus 2X has a Tegra dual core, HDMI, 1080p HD recording, gyroscope,
however, it only has 512MB RAM, it's a big disadvantage
BTW: I don't trust LG phone's quality, i'd prefer Incredible S ...
At carphone warehouse in the uk, the incredible s cost more than the lg! Then the wildfire s cost only £50 less than the lg. So ppl in uk have already negative views of it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEeulajPlkk#
Show's that dual core and quadrant score don' mean jack in day to day stuff.
Don't fall into the more is better trap that people fell for with their PC processors. It took folks about two years to realise (unless you spend your life gaming) it was total ****.
coolnil said:
Hi ppl
I have read this tread and realised that there have been a lot of dislikes about the LG optimus 2x. I am actually a user for both the 2x and Incredible S. so i can tell you the pros and cons for each phones...
Yes i have to admit when the LG came out fresh from the box it does have its flaws but it is mainly due to LG programmers... It hangs lags and self restart but after a firmware upgrade (10A to 10B) all these problems are gone! Now it is fast and smooth and it has not given me any problem since then!
Of course it is still not perfect! there are atill some flaws i will get back to that later...
Now to the HTC
firstly i have to admit the HTC sense do really make life easier! especially if you upgrade from 1 HTC to another HTC!
Apart from the usual Gmail sync that you get for all android phone, HTC sense actually automatically sync everything! settings, ringtones and including your SMS! This is a big plus point actually! Also sense makes contact management a breeze as you can link each contact to their email, face book, whatsapp...
This really help you see your things about your friends easily without the need of switching from one programme to another...
To sum up the pros and cons...
Pros for 2x
Camera both is 8mp but LG is much sharper and also in dark situation, LG actually uses its LED Flash to auto focus first so you will get sharp picture even in dark situation.
As compared to the HTC it does not perform well in dark situations and it does not use its LED to help focus the objects.
Also the flash on 2x is actually brighter then the dual LED on the HTC.
2x has full HD video recording while HTC is only 720p... 2x is really nice when it comes to video recording.
2x has built in 8GB of memory and it can still be further increased Via micro SD while HTC only has 1gb for programs...
LG has direct HDMI output and it really output to my TV at Full HD
LG has better sound quality speaker, it rings and sound much louder!
LG has better screen picture quality.
LG has better battery life compared to HTC. HTC can't last more then 10 hours without charging but LG can... Usually when my HTC die my LG still has about 20 percent.
Lg somehow has better signal level compared to HTC... this could be due to the fact that HTC tried to cut cost and put the Signal antenna to the battery cover so if you cover with your hands you will get a drastic signal drop.
cons for LG
Facebook integration is not as good as htc
thicker and heavier then htc.
Pros for HTC
HTC Sense! it is a really big plus point! it is really useful.
Better user experience... Examples are that you do not have to do screen unlock to skip the next music track when you are listening to music wherelse LG have to unlock the screen and go to the music menu to go to the next track!
Email SMS inbox can be seen on the screen without going into the program itself (again thanks to HTC sense widgets).
Cons
Sorry some of the cons are actually mention on the LG's pro for comparision.
examples are the camera and video recording are not as good as the LG.
Battery life is considerable less.
sometimes it is really sluggish (could be also due to the fact that htc sense is a resource eater!)
for now i can only report till here...
all i can say is HTC is really way ahead from all the competitor in android for its programming!
and also i prefer the build quality on the LG itself! it feels more solid!
PS. For all the people who has LG 2x and expericeing hanging please just do a simple upgrade of firmware as it really improve and solve all the problems.
I hope this helps!
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Can someone comment about the battery? cuz reviews say it can last 1-2 days easily with light to moderate use
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Can someone comment about the battery? cuz reviews say it can last 1-2 days easily with light to moderate use
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I am very happy with Iicredible s battery, i dont know about lg as the phone i had was playing freeze game with me, whenever i left the phone on its own it would freeze and will only respond to pulling battery!!
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Can someone comment about the battery? cuz reviews say it can last 1-2 days easily with light to moderate use
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Yes, I am rarely below 40% after 24 hours. Usage typically consists of Exchange and gmail updates every 15 minutes, light browsing and periodic widget updates. The screen brightness will affect this though.
And this is without having to resort to a task killer.
Hi OB users, I have been very tempted to buy this phone but I have a few questions that hopefully you can help me answer and decide whether or not it is a good decision to go ahead and buy it.
1.-I've heard battery life sucks, is this true? will it improve significantly if GB is ever released by LG (or maybe ICS will be the immediate update instead)?
2.-LG announced ICS will be released for OB, but I have also seen that LG has let down users many times with upgrades (e.g. GB), so do you still trust LG for keeping your HW up to date in terms of SW?
3.-If you could chose, would you chose again the OB or you would pass?
4.-Have you found HW limitations that have a direct impact over Android performance(amount of RAM, being only single core where the trend is to go dual or even quad)?
5.-Any last thoughts you could give me about your experience with this phone
Thanks in advance to everyone who took the time of reading my post, hopefully you can help me make the best decision.
Answers :
1 - battery life is normal, as any other 4" 1500mah phone, no better,no worse.
2 - Yes i trust about the release, but not the release "date".
3 - For single core, i will choose OB, my next pass is Galaxy Note at moment D), may be different when i actually changing from OB to any other device; but will wait for 3-4 months, OB meets all my need so far.
4 - 1080p video gives jerks, but 720p video runs very smoothly on OB. Haven't experienced much h/w limitations so far. [ i mean look at market, mobiles like Galaxy Y, Ace; Optimus One/Net; Defy etc occupy more than 70% of android phones, so a single core 1ghz 512mb RAM is not bad at all.. ]
5 - Display brightness and colour contrast is by far the best in whole era of smartphones, except LG PRADA 3 releasing this christmas.
It is a good option, as you may know is not the best out there, but it is a good one.
Everyone knows that smartphones are hungryphones, so it's almost the same issue to all devices. I do moderate use of it [2~3 hours calling, 2~3 hours music/gaming, about 1hour of wifi] daily and charge it every 2 days, so it's fine for me.
At the moment there is no single game that I tested and fail. Asphalt HD 6, PES 12, Fieldunners HD, GunBros [and playing online], Minigore, World of Goo, AngryBirds [all of them] and so on...
Display is a higher pro, 12pm at summer and sunniest day of the year still clearly see that display.
I'm not and android knower or anything, but in my opinion the only thing bad is SW updates or should I say no updates at all, but hey we have cm7 in good shape now and getting better
1. For me I find that the battery life of my OB can be quite erratic. Meaning sometimes it could last for 2days without charging, and sometimes the battery will just be depleted overnight (which is quite scary if you're using it as an alarm)
^Without me installing any new apps.
2. They promised, so they would have to get ICS out by hook or by crook or it will be very very bad publicity.
3&4. This I'm not too sure about myself. What I look for in a phone is it being slim and light, and a good camera. The OB is one of the thinnest phones at an affordable price. Maybe I would have gotten the Galaxy S2 or Droid Razr. So far I haven't seen it lag in heavy games like NOVA.
5. The screen is very good, colour accuracy is better than those AMOLED displays every other phone is using imo. the whites on the screen are realllllly white.
1.) Battery life definitely does not suck, it will last for 24 hours with Wi-Fi on, 3G off, 3-4 audio calls, 2 hour gaming, 3-4-5 browsing, Facebook, Messenger, Foursquare, Latitude open non stop, 30min-1h of navigation, 2-3 hours of music on the headphones, screen light on optimized (based on the light sensor ).
I know that some people wish that their Android's battery will last a week or so, but it's not 2001 anymore and these phones are not the 3310s anymore, so, IMHO, 24 hours is great, considering everything you're doing with it in that interval.
2.) Now that I've finally rooted it, I really don;t care. Yes, LG has been really delayed with the GB update, and that could possibly mean that it will delay the ICS release a lot, but that's what we have XDA for, right ?
3.) I would definitely choose the OB again. In my humble opinion it is the best price/performance ratio out there. Big screen, powerful single-core processor, enough ram to handle almost anything you throw @ it, the PowerVR GPU is a great video chipset, third best after MALI and Tegra on the market right now, all in all it's a great phone, and yes, there's always going to be a newer, better phone released, but for its price, the OB does it all.
4.)I kind of already answered that, I'll fill in additional details: There are almost no lags within the UI, the default LG Launcher is sometimes a bit laggy for half a second or so, but its just the launcher, not the phone. After replacing it with Launcher Pro for example, it performs beautifully. My Core i5 Desktop PC doesn't cycle through Windows that smooth :O The 720p playback is brilliant, no lag or other problems at all.
5.) Any last thoughts ? My personal conclusion after owning it and a SGSII for over 2 months now is this: it does 85-90% of what the SGSII does at almost half the price. Definitely a bargain !
Wish you luck with your new phone, regardless of what that will be.
Yes and no
It's like a good car with a bad driver on it... (Hardware and software) I suggest you to find a good car with a good driver Xpreia Neo V can be a good alternative...
if you want high end stuff I suggest you to wait panasonic's come back nearly april (will be presented at CES 2012)
there is also the "free thinking festival" about the OB
Thanks to everyone who read my post and dedicated some time to answer back. OB seems like a really good phone to me now, so hopefully, within the first 2 months of 2012 I might put my hands in one of those (or even sooner if I find it at a good price). Thanks again guys, you are much better than the people on the Acer tab A500 forum that I frequently check. Looking forward for more opinions
in a nutshell, if u want a brilliant 4 inch of screen estate, decent CPU nd a capable GPU,a sleek sexy and awesome looker, vivid camera and the best FRONT FACING cam,a great gesture controllable UI, go for op. Black. The software is no prob.
I had a tok wid MIUI and they confirmed immediate support for the device.also, the official GB will be available by jan latest.
If u want to hear glitches of this phone, am sorry to disappoint you....root nd delete the LG BLOATWRE,u wl hv 1day with heavy use.
I was watching this review on youtube and the guy mentions 2 issues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BbO5TI7Fg
1.-The phone overheats and becomes unbearable to hold
2.-Signal strenght decreases while holding it (similar to iPhone 4)
Could you guys share your experience in these 2 areas? I am thinking this guy might have received a faulty unit, but I just want to confirm. Thanks again guys.
sensei22 said:
I was watching this review on youtube and the guy mentions 2 issues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BbO5TI7Fg
1.-The phone overheats and becomes unbearable to hold
2.-Signal strenght decreases while holding it (similar to iPhone 4)
Could you guys share your experience in these 2 areas? I am thinking this guy might have received a faulty unit, but I just want to confirm. Thanks again guys.
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The phone may overheat when you use it while it is charging or if you're playing heavy games. My OB haven't heated up to a point thats unbearable to hold. Usually the camera area heats up. I believe that all slim phones heat up just like my friend's S2.
When it comes to signal, it's almost at par with nokia phones. With my Giorgio Armani phone, I can't even send sms inside my room, but with my OB, I can recieve and send sms anytime.
Had no such problems until now. Only heated once, but I was heavily multi-tasking atm, cooled down 2-3 minutes later. Regarding the signal, I had trouble with my old Sony Ericsson w960i and with my newer BB 8520 Curve inside this house, but the signal, even on 3G, on the OB is pure brilliancy !
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for browser use opera mobile for smooth hardware accelerated browsing.
for launcher use launcherpro. Its the smoothest launcher out there.
With all the above and CM7 the effect is my P970 is more responsive than my iphone4. Definitely worth the buy. Other good option with much tempting price is samsung galaxy W.
In my opinion its the BEST VFM out there...i m very satisfied with it!
3.-i would pass.
4.-hw is somewhat limited. gpu is weakest in competition. but games' generally working ok.
5.- sound quailty sucks. buy yourself a mp3 player with ob.
HW-wise the phone is unusable as a car navgiation. The GPS is incredibely inaccurate (50-100m difference is not a problem).
I never experienced overheating (yes, if you push it it's warm but not too much)
SW-wise the original firmware is quite buggy - there are problems with contacts associations, it happened that my phone stopped recieving SMS. There is no stable alternative, nor there is GB upgrade.
If I was considering buying the phone again, I would go for Nexus S, which costs nearly the same money, has larger community support, there is official ICS port and I can actually use it in my car.
Hi My name is DevilGod and am from India and One of my frnd want to buy a new phone. his budget is 20000Rs(400$) so we are thinking to buy this ...so can anyone tell is it worth buying..nd ur experiences or ideaz about any other fone?? how is the availabilty of custom roms and whats are its Pros and cons??? Please Share...
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It's a nice phone, slim and slick
but one thing (AFAIK) if you use the official ROM, there won't be any recovery access like key combination
you have to flash additional recovery from huexxx (one of our member here )
and about the update, i hope you're the patience one
custom ROMS ?
lemme count
1. Pay's
2. Nova
3. CM7
4. Modded CM7
5. Official GB repacked
6. Zeus
7. Marvel
CMIIW
it's a good phone for the price...... (as long as u get it dirt cheap) otherwise.. get htc... don't touch this phone with a long pole... or if you have the money.. just buy apple... it's still far more *refined* then android any day
or just get the galaxy s plus its in the same price catagory but its much faster cuz it has got an 1,4Ghz processor and the amazing amoled screen
SGS plus has overclocked CPU, you can overclock black to 1. 2 or more so no big diffrence. SGS has imho worst gpu. About screen... i think amoled make everythink looks artifictial.
Screen is good (don't start me on amoled screens just take amoled screen out in the sun on a bright sunny day and try to read a message , even not being gorilla glass after a year without screen protector there hardly any visible scratches and i have it with my keys most of the time.
Hardware is not bad but not that good either.
But it is so light and thin that it is worth it.
Main issue is the LG support and the update speed, and so far the small number of developers, which compensate with some good work when there is a new release.
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Screen is good (don't start me on amoled screens just take amoled screen out in the sun on a bright sunny day and try to read a message , even not being gorilla glass after a year without screen protector there hardly any visible scratches and i have it with my keys most of the time.
Hardware is not bad but not that good either.
But it is so light and thin that it is worth it.
Main issue is the LG support and the update speed, and so far the small number of developers, which compensate with some good work when there is a new release.
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lol it HAS gorilla glass. who told otherwise? check official gorilla site: www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/lg
hey
I recommand OP Black.It's very slim , easy and stylish.
LGUpdates came very slow hope that we'll get 4.0 in Octomber 2012 not January 2013(like 2.3.4)
now, if i were u, i would have gone for the original S.Galaxy S(i9000). it's available in India in the same price range.
it has identical specs but MUCH MUCH MUCH powerful GPU & loads of custom ROMs.
do not go for the overclocked (1.4Ghz one) Galaxy plus as there is report of overheating.
or, if its about a hard awesome sturdy cell, simply get the DEFY (it's 15.3K as in west bengal). DEFY has so many ROMs that you'll get puzzled counting. lol
achyut said:
now, if i were u, i would have gone for the original S.Galaxy S(i9000). it's available in India in the same price range.
it has identical specs but MUCH MUCH MUCH powerful GPU & loads of custom ROMs.
do not go for the overclocked (1.4Ghz one) Galaxy plus as there is report of overheating.
or, if its about a hard awesome sturdy cell, simply get the DEFY (it's 15.3K as in west bengal). DEFY has so many ROMs that you'll get puzzled counting. lol
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Samsung's plastic case looks very cheap and defy is ugly as ****. I recommend to see with your own eyes before buying.
dflt said:
Samsung's plastic case looks very cheap and defy is ugly as ****. I recommend to see with your own eyes before buying.
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well...then i feel SE NEO V should be a good trade, eh??...already sporting ICS, nice sexy look and i have heard remotely that it can be (am nt sure) overclocked to 1.9 Ghz???!!!...a balanced cell that...
I wouldn't buy it again.
Most of the ROM sucks.
- Nova ROM was on a good way, but development stopped when CM7 arrived
- CM7 is still not really stable
- Official ROMs are really slow, no matter Froyo/Gingerbread
- Zeus ROM could become good, but still it's slow compared to CM7
- I haven't tested Marvin ROM or whatever it's called
Optimus Black could be a good phone, but it was too expensive when it was new, so nobody bought it, which lead to a small developer base, and here we are. I have that phone for almost a year now I think, and it still sucks ass.
Honestly, if you can get it cheap, it's not a bad phone. If had the choice again, I'd always buy a Nexus. Edit: Or anything with _proper_ CM support.
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lol it HAS gorilla glass. who told otherwise? check official gorilla site: www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/lg
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Lol my bad. Had it for nearly a year and always thought it didn't have gorilla glass. As when it came out it wasn't very clear of it was or it wasn't.
One time my black fell on the solid floor and it didn't even have a scratch! I was afraid to look because I thought that the screen is broken for sure (because of the impact and the sound).
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I have a p990 and with a custom rom it's a dream x), The screen is beautiful . For me it's a very good phone
I didn't used the P990 (2x) with stock rom for a very long time, in fact 30 minutes, just the time to gather everything to flash cyanogenmod 7.
You may be new on xda but a rom when almost everything works is not a common thing, CM7 rom others based on it for the P990 and P970 (black) everything work.
If you want to stay on stock rom and just root, I won't recommend you a LG phone as they kind of mess up their stock rom.
If can understand how to flash a custom firmware, then both phones you want, have a very good kang (you'll understand this later) by temasek.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421425
I'm using it on P990 and it's a true marvel. I think that I took this one because it's the cheapest dual core phone available. No in fact it's because it has a stable CM7 port. First I wanted the Samsung I9100 (Galaxy S2) which have a powerful dualcore internaly made by samsung but there is I9100G in the wild which is also called Galaxy S2 but have a Texas Instrument CPU. The fact that this version is less powerful than the original one doesn't matter, it just make it not compatible with I9100 roms.
Don't consider the optimus black, dual core is what you want, trust me. Even if the optimus 2x don't have what LG is calling Nova screen, it still a beautiful screen, very sharp (still the iphone 4/4S is a little sharper, just a little) and with gorilla glass. I think it's the first time in 5-6 years that I didn't put screen protector on my phone.
But with the Tegra 2 dual core and the speed of CyanogenMod, everything is so smooth. With 50€ extra, go for the 2x.
If you can wait, the samsung galaxy S3 will arrive and the price of the S2 will drop a little. The 4.3" screen may be too big for you but it has better stock rom than the LG 2X.
But LG Optimus 2x P990 with CyanogenMod7 is something unmatched in the 300€ price range right now.
2x that price is too expensive , if you like app,you should buy iphon4 8g, but the 3.5 screen is too small. Android platform i will consider sumsung galaxy note,bigest screen , or lg optimus lte ,in china it just 2k5 ~= €300
I agree with all of the above (except for the chinese guy).
290 euros is not a big price tag for O2X, at least not on "first world" countries.
Even if you're not a very demanding user you will certainly enjoy flashing a custom ROM. Phone is smoother, more stable, battery life is better, etc. Unless of course you screw it up and brick your phone. But if you follow the instructions step by step (I can help you with that) you should be fine!
LarsPT said:
I agree with all of the above (except for the chinese guy).
290 euros is not a big price tag for O2X, at least not on "first world" countries.
Even if you're not a very demanding user you will certainly enjoy flashing a custom ROM. Phone is smoother, more stable, battery life is better, etc. Unless of course you screw it up and brick your phone. But if you follow the instructions step by step (I can help you with that) you should be fine!
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i mean €290 for 2X is not worth , just 1 year the hardware is way behind. don't we consider ' cost performance' , maybe you shouldn't care the damn €520+ like some chinese, there are iphone4s everywhere in china.
chenjiaru said:
i mean €290 for 2X is not worth , just 1 year the hardware is way behind. don't we consider ' cost performance' , maybe you shouldn't care the damn €520+ like some chinese, there are iphone4s everywhere in china.
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My friend, can you tell me what's better than an O2X for 290 eur?
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chenjiaru said:
2x that price is too expensive , if you like app,you should buy iphon4 8g, but the 3.5 screen is too small. Android platform i will consider sumsung galaxy note,bigest screen , or lg optimus lte ,in china it just 2k5 ~= €300
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Its great price for it. Only reason for such price drop is that first wave of o2xs was crap and people lost trust in that phone.
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I can only talk about what I've tried.
I "test-drove" the phone for about three weeks with stock ROM and I liked it, didn't have any problems, no sleep of deaths, battery life was ok.
Then I tried temasek's kang and vadonka's kernel, and what was already good just got excellent. Phone is ultra stable, great performance, great battery life.
Regarding camera quality, obviously removing the plastic cover will get you better quality as you will not have distortion from the plastic, but be careful as this plastic is there to protect your camera lens. As long as you don't scratch the plastic cover you shouldn't have any trouble. Quality is acceptable for me... for a phone camera, obviously.
Flashing a custom ROM, as far as I know, doesn't improve picture quality.
doctorik said:
Hello guys,
I´d like to buy a new phone (my first smartphone), but not sure which one. Although I browsed through a lot of phones (not all, of course), I found only 3 phones that I truly like (mainly because of design and features included):
- LG Optimus Black (price 245 - 255 Euro)
- LG Optimus 2x (290 Euro)
- iPhone 4 16GB (520+ Euro)
Well, I´m not willing to pay 520+ Euro for brand new iPhone 4, so only 2 options remain. These are my pros for each of LGs:
LG Black
+ thinner and lighter
+ better screen ?? (not sure about this one)
LG 2x
+ dual core CPU
+ bigger internal memory
+ better camera and video
I know about crappy LG support and read about all bugs that you have suffered from (using 2x, not sure if Black is better in this area). I presume that I´d need to root phone (never did that) to get the best experience of it. But what would you suggest me? Should I buy Black or 2x? Or should I look elsewhere?
PS: I´m not power user and don´t need best out there (won´t play games much if at all). I just need fully functional phone with appealing design, very good screen (4-inch max.), good connectivity and very good camera.
THANKS for feedback.
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Go for o2x. Black has really outdated gpu. Or maybe htc evo 3D for 270€.
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HTC EVO 3D:
cons:
- Not gorilla glass
- Internal storage 1GB??
- Camera 5 MP
pros:
- 1.2 GHz CPU
- Non-Tegra GPU (everyone seems to hate Tegra)
- 1 GB RAM
- Slightly bigger screen
- Slightly bigger capacity battery
The first two cons are killers for me. You install 2 or 3 games and bye-bye 1 GB. I also like my screen to be scratch resistant. But it's a good suggestion nonetheless!
5mpx or 8mpx it doesnt matter on phone sizes sensors.
3D photos and videos are such a nice gimmick
1 gb internal storage - 10. class micro sd and switching internal with external.
Cons for me would be no gorrila glass and colors are nowhere near o2x.
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In my opinion the readability is great, but I can't compare it to the other devices you are asking about because I've never owned them... but compared to my last phone (LG GT540) it's really great!
I've just tried radio because of you, I had never tried it before And I can tell you it works perfectly.
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Flashing a custom ROM will get rid of any carrier logos + preloaded carrier apps
That's why I like it too
Flashing a custom rom (Temasek's Kang is very good, stable, smooth everythings working and the camera app can be replaced with the stock one but improved for 1080p video) will remove all the branding.
Root is like admin right in Windows, rooting a phone is like giving admin rights in windows, it can be used to remove branded apps (with titanium backup for example) but only apps.
For the HTC build quality, it seems that for the previous generation, there was too much model, many high end, many middle, many entry level models and the phone inferior to 300€ are just entry level so crappy material. That's why for 2012 there is only 3 phones, one for each price level.
For the quality of the 2X P990, it was marketed as an high end phone and build quality is not cheap, especialy that it have gorilla glass (optimus black too).
There was bad feedback for first batch but i bought mine 2 weeks ago (bought in France, the box all in german called LG Optimus Speed, made in Korea) and no problem.
For the camera quality, the back plastic that protect the camera is a fingerprint lover. I just wipe it on a sleeve, cristal clear.
The only dual core phone at 300€, just that.
Hi Guys. I wanna start new topic. Tell me the reasons why did you bought LG P970.
First I:
- it was very good looking and with style what I like
- in 2011 this was one on the slimmest smartphones. I checked that on www.phonegg.com/top/12-Slimmest-Cell-Phones but now is out of list
- it was looking like Iphone 4 but with bigger display. Now is similiar to Iphone 5 black.
- I was thinking to buy Samsung Galaxy S1 but Optimus Black was better: have Flash, no pentile and screen brithness was much better (very important if I want to see something outside during sunny day)
- price was ok about 250 Euro
- I was quite sure that device will get Android 4.0 because was avalialbe on May 2011 in shops. ICS was realased in October 2011 (18 months support for updates )
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My OB is a 2nd hand phone. i like its design, and it has the world's brightest display the nova ips... it is still the brightest today but not that crisp as the new technology displays like htc lcd2 and amoled2. who cares... i got a phone OB that when full brightness on full white screen fully lights up a big room like a florescent lamp... hehehe
4". Good display. Thin.
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Thin. Cheap. Good camera and has ICS :v Haha.
My black was the best phone I could had been obtained while I change my ITSP.
And Im proud of what I selected
After this phone, lot of L series came, and some others, even so ours is best and unbeatable
I don't wish to sell..
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I bought it, because it has 4" display, 5 Mpx camera, CM support, official android 4.0, and also it has good value to money. I bought it for 500 zł (Polish money), for example SGS4 costs 2500 zł.
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I wanted the O2X but it was too expensive even with contract so I got the OB instead.Not a bad decision.
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Same as the OP really... got it when it first came out in Germany, that was 3 years ago - along with a new contract so "free".
I still like its style, looks, size and display (was getting crazy searching for a new smartphone, because I need the high screen brightness and couldn't find a new phone that even comes close, lol).
What I didn't like were the initial very bad stock roms (battery life of ~10h idle...), the occasional slowdowns and keyboard crashed I got using stock roms, so I rooted and used a variety of custom roms. Phone is still running good, but I am now considering to buy something new, probably the Optimus G. I just need more performance for multitasking, plus my GPS has been acting up for a while now.
All in all I don't regret getting the phone, as it is one tough piece of hardware. It has fallen down like 50 times, been used daily without a hull or cover, gotten wet, been full of mud, and it still works No scratches on the display either, just the back plastic cover is full of them, but who cares.
I bought it because it was good looking and thin,with nice hardware and the brightest display.
And all of these at a reasonable price.I love it!The only thing that i miss is the USB OTG feature.
it was cheap when i bought it. switched from Samsung Wave 2 because of bigger (better) screen, slim body and android.
dropped it several times but still without scratches or cracks :angel:
do not regret it. should have purchased it in black color, though
OB-bob said:
it was cheap when i bought it. switched from Samsung Wave 2 because of bigger (better) screen, slim body and android.
dropped it several times but still without scratches or cracks :angel:
do not regret it. should have purchased it in black color, though
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Very much the same as you,. It was the IPS screen that won me. And if it gets somehow USB OTG I will be happy camper.
It has served me faithfully for over two years and it is a definite value for money. After all this time without screen protection there are only couple of very fine scratches, not visible when looking straight to the screen.
Only real downside is battery being bad to start with and gone worse over time, which turned out to be related with LGs chip design .
P.s. I came from nokia 5800 and samsung wave 1
I bought it since my dear Samsung Wave 1 was stolen and this phone was the best about quality/price. I have to admit that seeing knzo create the very first topic of our forum had helped.
I got it because it was light in weight, the awesome display, not to big, good hardware specs at the time, good development of custom roms and a good community to back it up.
My ob is second hand !!!
Bought it for emergency !!! When i lost my galaxy sl !
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It was a great phone for the price he had, and the look of it was very worth it.
First for the screen, secondly for the design. Nova is stil one of the best screen (very bright, neutral colors and large angles of view), even versus newest phones. My girlfriend has a S3, Nova beats its over-saturated amoled...
Because its cheap and I got it as my second device. Am also gonna use for devment
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1) 4 inch screen back then (2011) was considered as quite big
2) thin and light
3) couldn't afford more expensive device as I'm a student
never baught it, my good old sister had the OB and SG-S1 for her daughter. she went on and got her self another SG-S1. so i asked her to be a loving sister and give her brother a present.....something like OB.
i had SG Gio, and it was nice until i saw the light with the OB. i like its size, screen, weight, and overall looks. i use it for almost a year and its still rocks. and since i got it from sis, i never say no to presents and passed my Gio to the wife.
mean while my sister upgraded both hers and daughters phone, she got SG Note, and for her daughter SG-S3, so i asked her for her old SG-S1 in order to compare with the OB. she gave me both her SG-S1 for me and my wife. my wife sold the Gio, and she is happy like i was when moving from small screen phone to a bigger one.
as far as for me, after 2 weeks of using the SG, i still like the OB better. they are so similar with the specs but still screen is way better and the camera has the flash which is a plus for me.