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Free Thinking Festival: Optimus Black

Hello to everyone!
I have open this topic to tell everyone that I admire my phone. I care about it, and you do?
This thread is about you're expectations, doubts, positive and negative feedbacks.
It's all about Optimus Black.
As for me I'm waiting now for gingerbread update.
And I'm looking for a compatible headset for my lg.
Regards
Kris
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hardware is top,
software sucks.

quyTam said:
hardware is top,
software sucks.
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+1 for this
But as they say p970 it has goot hardware

Hardware, most are good except battery is suck (software prob i think) & VGA is very old, PowerVR 530... at first i was hoping 535 or 540. But well, i barely use my phone for games.
Very like the phone design, also I love IPS panel for sure
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good phone with some glitches
the phone is having a very good display, a great slim streamline body, the best front facing camera, the primary camera is having rich colors too.
however, what hangs the phone down is the bad s/w support, tinny(although loud) speakers,the LG Bloatware, fingerprint prone back panel and a bad battery. i have 2 charge it every night
and oh! the GPU is not powerful enough, i bought this phone mistaking the Sgx530 as the SGX540 (the one in the SGS). although, i don't regret buying it. primarily due to the awesome display

I bought this phone the P970 to replace my older GT i9000 Galaxy S1
Hardware wise i love it but software wise its not so good
So i bought a Galaxy S 2 as main phone
Even now when i hold the P970 in my hand this phone feels better and more comfortable fit than Galaxy S2
Dont get me wrong Galaxy S2 is probably the best android phone out there but the P970 aint that far behind I love both phones just Samsung have better on time updates
Its a shame if the P970 came shipped with Android 2.3 it would have been a massive hit
even my old service provider Tmobile dont have it listed now as one of their phones now online for sale anymore
LG have a lot to learn
Was speaking to LG support yesterday according to them the update we are all waiting for is ready on their end now it is being tested by service providers and once the approval is sent back to LG then it will be ready for people to update , they say it is imminent

I live in a hostel, and i have almost all smartphones in my building under a roof.
And all i can say about Optimus Black is that it has the best display out there in market. I have compared the 720p movies hand-on-hand with Sensation XE (htc flagship), Galaxy S2 (Samsung flagship) and Arc S (SonyErricson flagship). And not only me, but the owners of those mobiles themselves frankly admitted that Optimus Black is the most fabulous while watching movie.
And also another thing, many smartphones of today, when you use outdoors in sunlight, well, i've seen too many people keeping their palms on mobile to avoid direct sunlight falling on mobile. But with Optimus Black, i can see crystal clear in daylight without slightest discomfort.
Every mobile has its goods and bads, and i'm happy with my OB for the good it brings.

pros : slim, good material, wifi direct, nice display, the only one with neutral colors and pure white (better render than AMOLED), camera is also one of the best on phones market
cons : software, battery, 1gb of ram would have been better, no TV out, not dustproof
the worst thing after all for me is that we have to keep the phone ON to use alarms (is it the case for all androphones ?)

Ilko said:
the worst thing after all for me is that we have to keep the phone ON to use alarms (is it the case for all androphones ?)
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Yes, I think so.

I've had my OB for about two months now and I can't possibly state how happy I am with it !
It's great ! Isn't it just great, you guys ?
The battery lasts a lot more than my old Blackberry's, the display is huge, shiny and the colors are vivid. Game performance is astonishing and I love the Dolby mobile option for Music and Videos.
All in all, a great phone !

Is it worth buying??/

Hi My name is DevilGod and am from India and One of my frnd want to buy a new phone. his budget is 20000Rs(400$) so we are thinking to buy this ...so can anyone tell is it worth buying..nd ur experiences or ideaz about any other fone?? how is the availabilty of custom roms and whats are its Pros and cons??? Please Share...
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It's a nice phone, slim and slick
but one thing (AFAIK) if you use the official ROM, there won't be any recovery access like key combination
you have to flash additional recovery from huexxx (one of our member here )
and about the update, i hope you're the patience one
custom ROMS ?
lemme count
1. Pay's
2. Nova
3. CM7
4. Modded CM7
5. Official GB repacked
6. Zeus
7. Marvel
CMIIW

it's a good phone for the price...... (as long as u get it dirt cheap) otherwise.. get htc... don't touch this phone with a long pole... or if you have the money.. just buy apple... it's still far more *refined* then android any day

or just get the galaxy s plus its in the same price catagory but its much faster cuz it has got an 1,4Ghz processor and the amazing amoled screen

SGS plus has overclocked CPU, you can overclock black to 1. 2 or more so no big diffrence. SGS has imho worst gpu. About screen... i think amoled make everythink looks artifictial.

Screen is good (don't start me on amoled screens just take amoled screen out in the sun on a bright sunny day and try to read a message , even not being gorilla glass after a year without screen protector there hardly any visible scratches and i have it with my keys most of the time.
Hardware is not bad but not that good either.
But it is so light and thin that it is worth it.
Main issue is the LG support and the update speed, and so far the small number of developers, which compensate with some good work when there is a new release.

ogremount said:
Screen is good (don't start me on amoled screens just take amoled screen out in the sun on a bright sunny day and try to read a message , even not being gorilla glass after a year without screen protector there hardly any visible scratches and i have it with my keys most of the time.
Hardware is not bad but not that good either.
But it is so light and thin that it is worth it.
Main issue is the LG support and the update speed, and so far the small number of developers, which compensate with some good work when there is a new release.
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lol it HAS gorilla glass. who told otherwise? check official gorilla site: www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/lg

hey
I recommand OP Black.It's very slim , easy and stylish.
LGUpdates came very slow hope that we'll get 4.0 in Octomber 2012 not January 2013(like 2.3.4)

now, if i were u, i would have gone for the original S.Galaxy S(i9000). it's available in India in the same price range.
it has identical specs but MUCH MUCH MUCH powerful GPU & loads of custom ROMs.
do not go for the overclocked (1.4Ghz one) Galaxy plus as there is report of overheating.
or, if its about a hard awesome sturdy cell, simply get the DEFY (it's 15.3K as in west bengal). DEFY has so many ROMs that you'll get puzzled counting. lol

achyut said:
now, if i were u, i would have gone for the original S.Galaxy S(i9000). it's available in India in the same price range.
it has identical specs but MUCH MUCH MUCH powerful GPU & loads of custom ROMs.
do not go for the overclocked (1.4Ghz one) Galaxy plus as there is report of overheating.
or, if its about a hard awesome sturdy cell, simply get the DEFY (it's 15.3K as in west bengal). DEFY has so many ROMs that you'll get puzzled counting. lol
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Samsung's plastic case looks very cheap and defy is ugly as ****. I recommend to see with your own eyes before buying.

dflt said:
Samsung's plastic case looks very cheap and defy is ugly as ****. I recommend to see with your own eyes before buying.
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well...then i feel SE NEO V should be a good trade, eh??...already sporting ICS, nice sexy look and i have heard remotely that it can be (am nt sure) overclocked to 1.9 Ghz???!!!...a balanced cell that...

I wouldn't buy it again.
Most of the ROM sucks.
- Nova ROM was on a good way, but development stopped when CM7 arrived
- CM7 is still not really stable
- Official ROMs are really slow, no matter Froyo/Gingerbread
- Zeus ROM could become good, but still it's slow compared to CM7
- I haven't tested Marvin ROM or whatever it's called
Optimus Black could be a good phone, but it was too expensive when it was new, so nobody bought it, which lead to a small developer base, and here we are. I have that phone for almost a year now I think, and it still sucks ass.
Honestly, if you can get it cheap, it's not a bad phone. If had the choice again, I'd always buy a Nexus. Edit: Or anything with _proper_ CM support.

jimakos29 said:
lol it HAS gorilla glass. who told otherwise? check official gorilla site: www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/lg
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Lol my bad. Had it for nearly a year and always thought it didn't have gorilla glass. As when it came out it wasn't very clear of it was or it wasn't.

One time my black fell on the solid floor and it didn't even have a scratch! I was afraid to look because I thought that the screen is broken for sure (because of the impact and the sound).

[Q] Is this thing too big? Any regrets?

I was very excited about this phone when AT&T announced that they would be adding it to their lineup but now I'm starting to have some reservations because of its size. I've seen some videos on youtube comparing the size to the SGS II, Nexus, Skyrocket, etc. It looks freaken huge.
I know the HW wise the AT&T version and the European version are different. I don't care about that, I only care about the size. Does anyone find the phone to be too cumbersome or bulky?

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I was very excited about this phone when AT&T announced that they would be adding it to their lineup but now I'm starting to have some reservations because of its size. I've seen some videos on youtube comparing the size to the SGS II, Nexus, Skyrocket, etc. It looks freaken huge.
I know the HW wise the AT&T version and the European version are different. I don't care about that, I only care about the size. Does anyone find the phone to be too cumbersome or bulky?
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In my honest opinion, no. It's big, no doubt about that, but I have never felt that it's too big. I have slightly larger hands than normal, but many of my friends have tried it and none of them complained about it being too big to hold. My girlfriend on the other hand can't even hold it in one hand, so it's probably not a good phone for people with small hands.
It's thin so it goes down into my normal sized jeans pockets without any problem.
My recommendation: If you have normal sized hands and pockets, buy it, you won't regret it.

i find the size to be perfect, in fact, i would happily go up to 5.5inch or even 5.7 if they made it! after a day, you wont notice any difference and you'll wonder why you never had a huge screen phone before (because no-one made one, but thats not the point).

deeken said:
I was very excited about this phone when AT&T announced that they would be adding it to their lineup but now I'm starting to have some reservations because of its size. I've seen some videos on youtube comparing the size to the SGS II, Nexus, Skyrocket, etc. It looks freaken huge.
I know the HW wise the AT&T version and the European version are different. I don't care about that, I only care about the size. Does anyone find the phone to be too cumbersome or bulky?
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The only way to find out is to try it out your self. I remember thinking my sgs2 was too big until I actually held it. But it does boil down to personal preferences. Also I don't think anyone here will tell you it's too big(It's NOTE FORUM)
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My girlfriend on the other hand can't even hold it in one hand
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Lol, that can't be a bad thing
Sorry couldn't resist above comment.... On a serious Note (pun intended), you will probably get used to the handset within a couple of days after seeing everything on a larger screen and then wonder how you got by all this time with smaller screens.

Just to be clear the screen size is 5.3 inches but the phone from top to bottom is 5.8 inches correct?
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yeap that's correct. I had doubts Note would be too big for me but after i get used to the large screen now i'm really happy with dimensions. It's big but not bulky and heavy. It's actually very light and slim. I didn't know that galaxy tab 7" plus has phone capability on honeycomband os. I thought to myself after i learnt it today if 7" would be even better. But i checked the technical spesifications and learnt that it is twice heavy (360g) with lower cpu power (1.2 GHz) and wider chasis around screen. So i'm pretty happy with weight and dimensions for now. Just longing for ICS official release to take full benefit of the hardware and use tablet mode like HC software wise.

I was using S2 and when Note launched , I thought what the hell is this ?
thought it's too big! one day I was shopping with me mate, he after the Note and he got it.
putting my S2 aside his newly acquired Note, My S2 was like a toy and was amazed by how much the screen looks better than my S2 .
Then we go back to the shop to get myself a Note as well.
Its big, obviously but after 3 days of use, I found the size is perfect.
except for sometimes one hand operation is virtually impossible.

it is awkward at best as a one handed since you can't reach the far Corners or the other edge of the screen. but outside of that it's fantastic

I just received my white note literally 2 hours ago and when I opened the box and first saw it sitting there I said out loud "wow"
I played with it for an hour and then put it on charge, while i do some work I need to do
I have since made and received 3 or 4 calls and I am used to it already and I do not consider it too big. But I am a person who always considered phone screens to be too small for anything useful, and until this phone haven't been motivated to change my HTC Touch HD. yeah I know sort of out of the arc.
Also I was considering buying a tablet, purely for aeroplanes and trains as to use my 18.4 inch laptop in a plane etc is a bit inconvenient. (but needed for how I use it generally). now i shall no longer buy a tablet as even with my short play i can see it can do what i was considering a tablet for.
But you really need to go and hold one and try it for yourself as other peoples and my opinion is always going to be from our perspective, which may not suite yours
seeya Ian
p.s the call quality was superb just like a phone should be and as far as I remember better than all my other phones

Thanks for the opinion guys. I'm getting real excited about it now. Only a few more days before we can pre-order. I know the specs aren't the same but I hope the AT&T version performs just as good as the international.

I was like you and had some concerns about the size, but I ordered the international version anyway. I've had it for about a week now and I find the size to be a non factor.
I have small hands. I can still use the phone with one hand with some maneuvering, but I don't find it too distracting. Sometimes the bottom of my thumb joint hits the applications button by accident when I try to reach for something in the far left top corner but I learned to adjust to it.
I love the phone and its size. I got used to it very quickly and don't even think about it now. It fits fine in all my pant pockets. The screen is beautiful and makes reading, watching videos such a joy. I don't think I'll be able to go back to a phone with anything less than 5" now.
It's just a wonderful phone.

Had the Galaxy Note for 4 days and it gets smaller by the day.

I'm on my second day with the Note, and am still adjusting to the size. By no means do I regret getting it, but it does mean that I need to walk a bit more carefully with it in my front jeans pocket (yes, they're a rather slim pair). I wouldn't dare sit with it in that pocket.
This is the first phone that can legitimately replace 98+% of my need for a laptop on-the-go, so I'll gladly live with that sacrifice.

Was doubting the purchase until I first inserted the battery, oh the gorgeous screen!

Nope, its the perfect size (this is 3 months into owning one).
Best phone I've ever had. (and I've had quite a few)

Seems large at first, but now! Now I get my iphone friends asking to see videos on my phone-"cause it looks better"
Size you get used to!
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Yeah it was BIG the first time ... now everything else is just too small
lol
On a serious "note" .... The 5.3' Screen size is amazing. So much on screen real estate for browsing, gaming drawing. There is a reason Samsung is selling so many Galaxy Notes. I was just typing something on my iPhone 3GS (Which i use for iPod purposes in the car) and damn that screen felt like a calculator hahah ...

deeken said:
I was very excited about this phone when AT&T announced that they would be adding it to their lineup but now I'm starting to have some reservations because of its size. I've seen some videos on youtube comparing the size to the SGS II, Nexus, Skyrocket, etc. It looks freaken huge.
I know the HW wise the AT&T version and the European version are different. I don't care about that, I only care about the size. Does anyone find the phone to be too cumbersome or bulky?
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You can always check out the device when it stocks arrive, Initially I thought it was very big for a mobile phone but after testing out the dummy phone I found that its actually a perfect size for a mobile phone for either landscape or portrait use.. I use it mainly in portrait. Also going back to a smaller phone might be hard for me which Im going to do eventually.

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Yeah it was BIG the first time ... now everything else is just too small
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+1 jajajaja
Galaxy Note it's not too big, the other phones are too small. Screen size on the phones have been increasing for years. I remember my Nokia with a 2" 176x220 screen, and thinking that you can really read some text there (previous phones had monocrome, 2 text lines screen). Then it went to 3.5" screens (the same as the iPhone, jajaja, it has the same size I had in 2006).
I remember the times when people said that 4" was too big, and now only the iPhone has a screen below 4" (and it will be solved on the iPhone 5). So 4.3-4.5" is normal for many people. 5.3 just makes it better, more glass and more pixels to work with. I can type in portrait mode without pressing 4 keys at the same time. Playing a 720p video on this screen impresses everyone.

Is the Lg Optimus 2x good?

Well im going to buy the 2X soon after i buy a laptop but thats not the point, the point is , is the 2X worth buying? Tell me your experience uding the lg 2x.

Spend a couple of 100 bucks more and buy a proper phone. LGO2X is crap tbh. It gets way better with cm7 and cm9 and custom roms in generel, but no its not a good phone.

CasperHN said:
Spend a couple of 100 bucks more and buy a proper phone. LGO2X is crap tbh. It gets way better with cm7 and cm9 and custom roms in generel, but no its not a good phone.
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Lies.

Mungulz said:
Lies.
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Not exactly a lie. Don't get me wrong here, I love my O2X now when I've figured out the right baseband/RIL combination and found myself a preferred kernel (which doesn't work right now because of the system r/w corruption bug). It is a great phone if you like experimenting. If not I'd recommend a phone which is using Qualcomm-SOC solution.
So I guess it all comes down to the user.
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Lies.
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I had this phone for over a year now. The first 9 months it was a laggy, buggy and hopeless experience, though cm7 after 6 months made it better. Then Gingerbread came along from LG, but it was still buggy and laggy. Random reboots then charging and in general. ATM i am on owains cm9 with harch kernel and my phone has never been better. But still.. I regret by a 1000 that I bought this phone and not the SGII. I will buy the SGIII then it comes and if that disappoints the One X. Sorry to say but the OX2 has been a huge let-down. Hardware was good at the price but software and build-quality was never well.

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I had this phone for over a year now. The first 9 months it was a laggy, buggy and hopeless experience, though cm7 after 6 months made it better. Then Gingerbread came along from LG, but it was still buggy and laggy. Random reboots then charging and in general. ATM i am on owains cm9 with harch kernel and my phone has never been better. But still.. I regret by a 1000 that I bought this phone and not the SGII. I will buy the SGIII then it comes and if that disappoints the One X. Sorry to say but the OX2 has been a huge let-down. Hardware was good at the price but software and build-quality was never well.
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Well I jumped in around CM7 build 170, so I was fortunate to get the phone in it's prime. I know you had a crap experience at the start, but the OP doesn't have to buy the phone using a time machine. In it's current state it is a better phone than the SGS2 in my opinion. (unless ICS is a factor, then the SGS creams it)
The SGS2 has a horrible screen, costs $150 more, and is worse than the O2X in gaming stability.

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Well I jumped in around CM7 build 170, so I was fortunate to get the phone in it's prime. I know you had a crap experience at the start, but the OP doesn't have to buy the phone using a time machine. In it's current state it is a better phone than the SGS2 in my opinion. (unless ICS is a factor, then the SGS creams it)
The SGS2 has a horrible screen, costs $150 more, and is worse than the O2X in gaming stability.
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I utterly disagree. I do not find the SGII screen worse than O2X, quite the contrary tbh, but thats a matter of taste. The SGII is more stable(can actually use the alarm by night not fearing the phone will shut down during night), custom builds have very stable ICS with chrome, the very possible chance that it will also be upgraded to Jelly Bean and imo better gaming and better battery-life.
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And better camera.. I have just been so annoyed and disappointed with my O2X, not saying that models build later can not have eliminated many of the bugs i have experienced, but i would never recommend this phone to anyone. My gf has a SE mini pro, which is far mor stable and faster in everyday use (open texts and stuff) than my O2X ever was.

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I utterly disagree. I do not find the SGII screen worse than O2X, quite the contrary tbh, but thats a matter of taste. The SGII is more stable(can actually use the alarm by night not fearing the phone will shut down during night), custom builds have very stable ICS with chrome, the very possible chance that it will also be upgraded to Jelly Bean and imo better gaming and better battery-life.
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My friend may have had a dud screen, it had a green tint to it, looked nasty.
Another friend has a Motorola Razr, his screen was terrible whereas the O2Xs is actually white. I guess it depends on the batch.

I've had both galaxy s2 and the optimus 2x. In really do like the o2x when compared to the gs2 screen.
I ended up sticking with my o2x and selling my gs2 (':
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I have Samsung Galaxy s2 it is horrible, good performance good camera but ultra lame overheats all the time , milti touch bugs sometimes... Crap , waht do you guys recomend then?

Considering what users have experienced with galaxy s2, and the super speedy responsivness my O2X running CM7 and the now working etana kernel. I'd say go for an O2X. Hardware quality is top notch.
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A newer phone, the galaxy nexus(which is only flawed by the underwhelming camera), the new HTC one X(have some bugs now, but not many) or the RAZR!

CasperHN said:
A newer phone, the galaxy nexus(which is only flawed by the underwhelming camera), the new HTC one X(have some bugs now, but not many) or the RAZR!
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I would say that gpu in galaxy nexus is not very good for 720p resolution. At least for games.
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If you're not worried about something being new, the HTC Sensation resale value has dropped a lot, I just picked one up for £140 and it already has ICS, more RAM and a qHD screen.
Dunno if I'll keep it, but for that money it was silly to pass it up.

"bof bof " as we say in france
For the good news :
It's a powerfull phone,
For the medium news :
Battery is not that good 14/15hours when I don't use it often, 8/9 h when I use it with internet or wifi a part of the day.
For the bad news :
If you want to use the fm radio, forget about it, it is just horrible.
Result, for the price, you can take it.
If you've got some more cash go for a galaxy S2, or nexus.

Was just browsing one my of favourite forums and came across a screen burn in thread re the SGS2..
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1897429#r1
Seems this phone is getting worse all the time lol, when I bought my O2X I dreamed of an SGS but couldn't afford it, now I'm sure I made the right decision.

Its a good fast phone that runs anything you throw at it, its the cheapest out of all dual core devices and is worth it.
I dont regret my buy at all, i wish lg would update faster and nvidia supported it properly but its still a good device.

Well everything depends.. What is the price, that you are going to spend ? I bought O2x for about 450$ a time ago, and was really sad coz it lacks support.. And i had it with 2.2.2 android.. Anyway I decided to break warranty and mod it and it changed the thing, especialy now when I'm using Owain's CM9, Its just fantastic, except video cam is not supported for now, but hopefully official ICS is rolling out this month..
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Oh.. Also I had another dissapointment, when my o2x felt off small table and back camera cover cracked.. LG decide to make it from ****ty plastic for that big price at the beginning.. And another dissapoinment I had ,when the phone slipped out of my hands in winter and bottom left side of my digitizer get spider net (crack) on it, and I found out that digitizer price was around 50-60$ comparing to 14-20 for iphone, some htc an samsung, that i checked... So if you get it, i suggest you to buy silicon case and never take it off.. oh.. where is the time when you could take your nokia 3210 and smash it by the wall or someones head and it didnt have even a scratch.. Sorry for my english

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[/COLOR]Oh.. Also I had another dissapointment, when my o2x felt off small table and back camera cover cracked.. LG decide to make it from ****ty plastic for that big price at the beginning.. And another dissapoinment I had ,when the phone slipped out of my hands in winter and bottom left side of my digitizer get spider net (crack) on it, and I found out that digitizer price was around 50-60$ comparing to 14-20 for iphone, some htc an samsung, that i checked... So if you get it, i suggest you to buy silicon case and never take it off.. oh.. where is the time when you could take your nokia 3210 and smash it by the wall or someones head and it didnt have even a scratch.. Sorry for my english
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I've dropped my phone about 5 times (not including small drops which couldnt possibly damage anything) one was from standing height, so probably 1.3.1.4M high, onto concrete. It bounced twice and was fine.
My friend dropped his iPhone 4 onto carpet and shattered the back glass, hilarious.

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I've dropped my phone about 5 times (not including small drops which couldnt possibly damage anything) one was from standing height, so probably 1.3.1.4M high, onto concrete. It bounced twice and was fine.
My friend dropped his iPhone 4 onto carpet and shattered the back glass, hilarious.
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You are lucky.. I got digitizer cracked with first serious hit on concrete.. Is that possible coz of low temperatures ? I guess it was something about -25 -30c outside that period.. and phone was just un trunk of my car for hour or so..

[Q] Optimus 4x HD vs One X. Any hardware defects?

Hello fellow XDA users,
I know there are a lot of threads about asking if someone should choose a 4x HD. My question is though, does the 4x HD have any factory defects that you guys have come across?
I have a One X currently and I just got it back from a repair centre for fixing the wifi problem that has been a plague on the One X. Not to mention the other horror stories around the One X with faulty yellow screens, bad unibody allignment and the freaking camera that is sticking out the back scratching the whole lens on my One X.
I know the cons and pros about each phone, but I am just worried that my phone will get more defects. Should I wait for the Jelly Bean update for the 4x HD with the unlocked bootloader (love flashing ) or wait it out for a new phone?

TotalManiac said:
any factory defects that you guys have come across?
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I myself don't have any real defects and think the phone is great.
But issues that exist and I read about are:
- Dust under the screen/glass
- Broken SIM card reader/modem
- Constantly rebooting phones
- Screens with visible brighter lines/'space' in between the pixel rows (more background light getting through the rows of pixels)
But those are really a few phones here on the forum. Most of them just work flawlessly.

I've just seen the 4x HD in the store and I must say that it is a damn nice phone. I like the chrome edges and feels just a bit better in the hand. And I like the colors on the screen. It's nice that there aren't that many defects.
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Yeah, compared to my sister her S3 the P880 does feel better in my hands. The back cover also adds grip.
It has a LCD panel, so no screen burn-in. Brightness is so great I have to set it on 25% to not torture my eyes xD
And for it's price it's a 'bang for the buck'. The S3 is more expensive for about the same specs.
There do are some things to consider where an S3 or HTC is doing it better:
- The LG 8MP camera isn't that great (more than good enough for me though)
- The home button is a soft touch key, while typing I often touch it accidentally
- The phone does get pretty hot
- Battery life seems to be not so great compared to a S3, but I can do 1 day with ease and 2 days at most on one charge
- Speaker sucks
- Audio quality is very good, but not the best out there, though for me it's better than I expected
- Firmware misses some basic functions like: default video calling (you have to use third party apps like Skype), no USB OTG, HDMI over the USB port, ...

Camera and heat is my only problem. The camera is really bad on indoor shots...
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In six months use... without defects
without alternate reboots
No problems to SIM card reader/modem
without dust under the screen/glass
without screen problems
Battery normal use, 3-4 days
QUALITY materials,yes, a phone LG have a good quality.

WillySonicteam said:
In six months use... without defects
without alternate reboots
No problems to SIM card reader/modem
without dust under the screen/glass
without screen problems
Battery normal use, 3-4 days
QUALITY materials,yes, a phone LG have a good quality.
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same for me.
Bad wifi on deep sleep, bad night fotos are the only issues for me...

Well it sounds like the phone is the one I am after. The design is just beautiful, the One X is nice too but the design is just not my taste. And I don't really care about the camera quality. Plus side is it is in the case itself, unlike the One X which is outside of the case damaging the glass.
I think I've set my decision on selling my One X and get 4 x's .
Sent from my HTC One X

the real thing im impressed was the ips panel and the brightness, just freaking 40% can blind your eyes , this is good when waking up to see nice bright screen blinding your eye
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Well i finally got the 4x! And hot damn im glad i got it. The screen is beautiful and smooth ui.
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I think the onex is mre solid , but that is an opinion