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I have a difficult choice to make between choosing the three 2013 1080p flagship smartphones...
HTC One:
-subpar camera
-4.7" screen but with thick bezels so size of the phone is actually same as the 5"ers (The curved back makes it easy to
handle one handed and thumb can reach other side of screen very easily so I think a 5" would be nice)
-removed the 3rd softkey and put a HTC logo there??? (wtf)
Xperia Z/ZL:
-bad screen, bad screen viewing angles
-horrible battery life, but that comes from the bad screen thats too power hungry probably...
Galaxy S4:
-Pentile Screen, Nuff said
I really wish there was a 1080p 5" compact (ZL/S4) RGB stripe screen flagship with good battery life (8+ hours screen on, video/browsing)
If the xperia had 8 hours instead of 5.5 hours i'd probably get that despite bad viewing angle and contrast ratio of the TFT screen...
I think I am just going to get the HTC One, what do you guys think?
I know this is the HTC One forum, but some unbiased opinions would be cool,
Im still scared if i buy one i'll get a unit with the gaps problem some people are reporting...
Judging from your negatives, I'd say the SGS4 is your best bet. Pentile won't matter at 448 PPI, you just won't be able to see the difference.
8+ hrs screen on? Not gonna happen any time soon.
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8+ hrs screen on? Not gonna happen any time soon.
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I remember my Galaxy S getting around 3 hours screen on and being amazed. People are never satisfied
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Judging from your negatives, I'd say the SGS4 is your best bet. Pentile won't matter at 448 PPI, you just won't be able to see the difference.
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Hm, I just can't seem to buy into the "naked eye cant see anything past x ppi"
Even if we cant see the pixels individually, it would still be sharper when u look at it wont it?
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8+ hrs screen on? Not gonna happen any time soon.
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Hmm...check the reviews and battery tests? S4 and HTC One both have 10 hours video playback or browsing while xperia Z/ZL 5.5 hours...
hardbrick123 said:
Hm, I just can't seem to buy into the "naked eye cant see anything past x ppi"
Even if we cant see the pixels individually, it would still be sharper when u look at it wont it?
Hmm...check the reviews and battery tests? S4 and HTC One both have 10 hours video playback or browsing while xperia Z/ZL 5.5 hours...
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ANY 1080p phone will be very sharp, I'm not saying you won't notice a difference between them. I'm just saying the difference is going to be in the type of panel used.
Amoled = blacks, vibrant
IPS = brightness, neutral colors
TFT = washed out, poor viewing angles, light bleeding on edges of screen
If it was up to me, the Sony Z would have no business being compared to the One and the S4.
hardbrick123 said:
I have a difficult choice to make between choosing the three 2013 1080p flagship smartphones...
HTC One:
-subpar camera
-4.7" screen but with thick bezels so size of the phone is actually same as the 5"ers (The curved back makes it easy to
handle one handed and thumb can reach other side of screen very easily so I think a 5" would be nice)
-removed the 3rd softkey and put a HTC logo there??? (wtf)
Xperia Z/ZL:
-bad screen, bad screen viewing angles
-horrible battery life, but that comes from the bad screen thats too power hungry probably...
Galaxy S4:
-Pentile Screen, Nuff said
I really wish there was a 1080p 5" compact (ZL/S4) RGB stripe screen flagship with good battery life (8+ hours screen on, video/browsing)
If the xperia had 8 hours instead of 5.5 hours i'd probably get that despite bad viewing angle and contrast ratio of the TFT screen...
I think I am just going to get the HTC One, what do you guys think?
I know this is the HTC One forum, but some unbiased opinions would be cool,
Im still scared if i buy one i'll get a unit with the gaps problem some people are reporting...
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I agree and feel the same about 2013 devices. Just stick with the note2 and see what the note3 brings.
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Samsung switched to RGB stripe with the S2, but they decided to go back to pentile cross hatch bs with the s3 and now s4...
They realized that overall it wont really hurt their image that much since majority of users don't even know the full specs
of their own phone...
Overall they cut a lot of cost in manufacturing and profits skyrocket...
Sigh, there needs to be more competition, which will be good for consumers.....whenever a company dominates a market, consumers lose out =(
Samsung could have made the S4 Aluminum body and RGB stripe, which will give their company the image of a premium smartphone maker, but they dont need to because their profits will be a lot higher if they keep doing what they do...
by adding a question in your title, this should be in the q&a section.
but anyways
if your looking for battery life, the s4 has a better standby time.
But both devices are great. You decide on which device you want.
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8+ hrs screen on? Not gonna happen any time soon.
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Well there's a thread that actually proves that over time, htc one could give 7hrs of screen time so there...
Why not wait a bit for what Google and Motorola are cooking? Based on your post, I can (ALMOST) see into the future and see that you will be complaining about one thing or another no matter which of these three devices you'll get. No offense intended, okay?
Larry Page did say that Motorola would be launching a phone with an "unadultered" Android experience, and people would start to not need to charge their devices every day, worry about kids spilling liquid on phones, and drop their phones without getting worried. And rumors say that the next Motorola phones (or probably just the X Phone) would have a camera based on the technology that Canon (or was it Nikon?) uses.
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Why not wait a bit for what Google and Motorola are cooking? Based on your post, I can (ALMOST) see into the future and see that you will be complaining about one thing or another no matter which of these three devices you'll get. No offense intended, okay?
Larry Page did say that Motorola would be launching a phone with an "unadultered" Android experience, and people would start to not need to charge their devices every day, worry about kids spilling liquid on phones, and drop their phones without getting worried. And rumors say that the next Motorola phones (or probably just the X Phone) would have a camera based on the technology that Canon (or was it Nikon?) uses.
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That might take until August though...=(
I wonder how the new pentile layout looks, instead of the RGBG in the S3, now the subpixel arrangement in the S4 has the green subpixels on a diagonal axis to the red and blue subpixels....hmmm
motorola will release tiny 4.3 inch phones . Even though i saw the petition on gsmarena. I like the 4.7-5 inch sizes. 5.5 is fairly large, but that should be the limit on phones. Hopefully phones that are being released at the end of this year and next year will improve on software optimizations (also KLP) on making android super super smooth, and manufacturers working on their skins making it optimized. Even though sense is somewhat heavy, its good on battery life.
Being on stock android is boring imo.
This design on the htc one is phenomenal, hopefully next years htc will build upon this and hit every sweet spot.
Hi Guys. I wanna start new topic. Tell me the reasons why did you bought LG P970.
First I:
- it was very good looking and with style what I like
- in 2011 this was one on the slimmest smartphones. I checked that on www.phonegg.com/top/12-Slimmest-Cell-Phones but now is out of list
- it was looking like Iphone 4 but with bigger display. Now is similiar to Iphone 5 black.
- I was thinking to buy Samsung Galaxy S1 but Optimus Black was better: have Flash, no pentile and screen brithness was much better (very important if I want to see something outside during sunny day)
- price was ok about 250 Euro
- I was quite sure that device will get Android 4.0 because was avalialbe on May 2011 in shops. ICS was realased in October 2011 (18 months support for updates )
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My OB is a 2nd hand phone. i like its design, and it has the world's brightest display the nova ips... it is still the brightest today but not that crisp as the new technology displays like htc lcd2 and amoled2. who cares... i got a phone OB that when full brightness on full white screen fully lights up a big room like a florescent lamp... hehehe
4". Good display. Thin.
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Thin. Cheap. Good camera and has ICS :v Haha.
My black was the best phone I could had been obtained while I change my ITSP.
And Im proud of what I selected
After this phone, lot of L series came, and some others, even so ours is best and unbeatable
I don't wish to sell..
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I bought it, because it has 4" display, 5 Mpx camera, CM support, official android 4.0, and also it has good value to money. I bought it for 500 zł (Polish money), for example SGS4 costs 2500 zł.
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I wanted the O2X but it was too expensive even with contract so I got the OB instead.Not a bad decision.
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Same as the OP really... got it when it first came out in Germany, that was 3 years ago - along with a new contract so "free".
I still like its style, looks, size and display (was getting crazy searching for a new smartphone, because I need the high screen brightness and couldn't find a new phone that even comes close, lol).
What I didn't like were the initial very bad stock roms (battery life of ~10h idle...), the occasional slowdowns and keyboard crashed I got using stock roms, so I rooted and used a variety of custom roms. Phone is still running good, but I am now considering to buy something new, probably the Optimus G. I just need more performance for multitasking, plus my GPS has been acting up for a while now.
All in all I don't regret getting the phone, as it is one tough piece of hardware. It has fallen down like 50 times, been used daily without a hull or cover, gotten wet, been full of mud, and it still works No scratches on the display either, just the back plastic cover is full of them, but who cares.
I bought it because it was good looking and thin,with nice hardware and the brightest display.
And all of these at a reasonable price.I love it!The only thing that i miss is the USB OTG feature.
it was cheap when i bought it. switched from Samsung Wave 2 because of bigger (better) screen, slim body and android.
dropped it several times but still without scratches or cracks :angel:
do not regret it. should have purchased it in black color, though
OB-bob said:
it was cheap when i bought it. switched from Samsung Wave 2 because of bigger (better) screen, slim body and android.
dropped it several times but still without scratches or cracks :angel:
do not regret it. should have purchased it in black color, though
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Very much the same as you,. It was the IPS screen that won me. And if it gets somehow USB OTG I will be happy camper.
It has served me faithfully for over two years and it is a definite value for money. After all this time without screen protection there are only couple of very fine scratches, not visible when looking straight to the screen.
Only real downside is battery being bad to start with and gone worse over time, which turned out to be related with LGs chip design .
P.s. I came from nokia 5800 and samsung wave 1
I bought it since my dear Samsung Wave 1 was stolen and this phone was the best about quality/price. I have to admit that seeing knzo create the very first topic of our forum had helped.
I got it because it was light in weight, the awesome display, not to big, good hardware specs at the time, good development of custom roms and a good community to back it up.
My ob is second hand !!!
Bought it for emergency !!! When i lost my galaxy sl !
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It was a great phone for the price he had, and the look of it was very worth it.
First for the screen, secondly for the design. Nova is stil one of the best screen (very bright, neutral colors and large angles of view), even versus newest phones. My girlfriend has a S3, Nova beats its over-saturated amoled...
Because its cheap and I got it as my second device. Am also gonna use for devment
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1) 4 inch screen back then (2011) was considered as quite big
2) thin and light
3) couldn't afford more expensive device as I'm a student
never baught it, my good old sister had the OB and SG-S1 for her daughter. she went on and got her self another SG-S1. so i asked her to be a loving sister and give her brother a present.....something like OB.
i had SG Gio, and it was nice until i saw the light with the OB. i like its size, screen, weight, and overall looks. i use it for almost a year and its still rocks. and since i got it from sis, i never say no to presents and passed my Gio to the wife.
mean while my sister upgraded both hers and daughters phone, she got SG Note, and for her daughter SG-S3, so i asked her for her old SG-S1 in order to compare with the OB. she gave me both her SG-S1 for me and my wife. my wife sold the Gio, and she is happy like i was when moving from small screen phone to a bigger one.
as far as for me, after 2 weeks of using the SG, i still like the OB better. they are so similar with the specs but still screen is way better and the camera has the flash which is a plus for me.
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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Hiken_Ace said:
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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I don't have any problems with my device.the camera is great for taking pics with it's wide angle lens. (You can get so much into a single pic) my phone had become hot sometimes when I was on 4.2 but since upgrading to sense 4.3 (leaked) I had not had any problems with heat whatsoever
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Hiken_Ace said:
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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Hi,
1) I (we) don't really know, software or hardware issue... , I have not this issue personally (HTC black), maybe take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507 for more info...
Even after updated to Android 4.2.2, custom kernel, etc... I never had this pink tint...
2) No overheating here... It's clear that play an heavy game while charging and yes your One will overheated..., ambient temperature plays its role, overclocking too...
Browsing in 3/4g in sun or while charging is the same thing (even without sun/charging LOL, same thing for all phone with a beast of CPU), quadcore at 1.72 Ghz, simple... It inevitably heats but ther is a different between heat and overheat.
There is a difference between the "overheating" you feel and the real temperature of both CPU/battery checked by an app. Without any real temperature report the overheating is subjective... With stock or custom kernel I never had temperature issues.
In any case there are some overheating protection (thermal throttling) and with a custom kernel that allows some thermal settings, you can increase the thermal throttling so less heat... and even undercloked/undervolted and that can help a little...
Maybe I'm lucky and I speak, maybe, only for me, but I have no issues as above for my One (black HTC One from June)...
EDIT: ok it's not about the HTC One, but generally about overheating for a quadcore (S4). It's about the LG nexus 4 known for overheating:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372733
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214629
Read all...
After all that it depends of your usage, the One is an awesome device (I came from a Galaxy SIII and I've always my Nexus 4), but depending of your use maybe there is better. I think about pictures... In lowh light the One is far better than a Galaxy SIV, but in "normal" use... Maybe not. It's like the screen, the "formfactor", the "overlay" (Sense vs Touchwiz), etc...
I think I've been around, at least for me
viking37 said:
Hi,
1) I (we) don't really know, software or hardware issue... , I have not this issue personally (HTC black), maybe take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507 for more info...
Even after updated to Android 4.2.2, custom kernel, etc... I never had this pink tint...
2) No overheating here... It's clear that play an heavy game while charging and yes your One will overheated..., ambient temperature plays its role, overclocking too...
Browsing in 3/4g in sun or while charging is the same thing (even without sun/charging LOL, same thing for all phone with a beast of CPU), quadcore at 1.72 Ghz, simple... It inevitably heats but ther is a different between heat and overheat.
There is a difference between the "overheating" you feel and the real temperature of both CPU/battery checked by an app. Without any real temperature report the overheating is subjective... With stock or custom kernel I never had temperature issued.
In any case there are some overheating protection (thermal throttling) and with a custom kernel that allows some thermal settings, you can increase the thermal throttling so less heat... and even undercloked/undervolted and that can help a little...
Maybe I'm lucky and I speak, maybe, only for me, but I have no issues as above for my One (black HTC One from June)...
EDIT: ok it's not about the HTC One, but generally about overheating for a quadcore (S4). It's about the LG nexus 4 known for overheating:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372733
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214629
Read all...
After all that it depends of your usage, the One is an awesome device (I came from a Galaxy SIII and I've always my Nexus 4), but depending of your use maybe there is better. I think about pictures... In lowh light the One is far better than a Galaxy SIV, but in "normal" use... Maybe not. It's like the screen, the "formfactor", the "overlay" (Sense vs Touchwiz), etc...
I think I've been around, at least for me
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Thanx for the detailed answer it was really helpful .. and Yeh I'm choosing HTC mainly cuz I got used to the UI ..its very practical and easy to use ... It's just that this pink camera is scaring me .. a lot of people complaining about it :/
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FitAmp said:
I don't have any problems with my device.the camera is great for taking pics with it's wide angle lens. (You can get so much into a single pic) my phone had become hot sometimes when I was on 4.2 but since upgrading to sense 4.3 (leaked) I had not had any problems with heat whatsoever
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Thank u very much much appreciated
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I live in a very hot state in the U.S. and I browse while in the sun and listen to music as it does get hot no more than I suspect it would, in face less than expected. My sgs3 would get to 125° on the regular with the same situations, the HTC One got to 122° so far. No camera issues for me either. I say go for it, play with it for a while heavily in the conditions you're used to and make your final decision before having your 14 day (or whatever it may be for you) grace period gone.
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mt3g said:
I live in a very hot state in the U.S. and I browse while in the sun and listen to music as it does get hot no more than I suspect it would, in face less than expected. My sgs3 would get to 125° on the regular with the same situations, the HTC One got to 122° so far. No camera issues for me either. I say go for it, play with it for a while heavily in the conditions you're used to and make your final decision before having your 14 day (or whatever it may be for you) grace period gone.
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Thanx a lot much appreciated
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Hiken_Ace said:
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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I have no issue with the camera so can't comment on that.
The phone frequently feels warm in your hand and that's because of the aluminium body; this acts as the heatsink for the internals so the heat is transferred to the body which is actually a benefit you don't get on a plastic body. Although it can feel warm/hot in the hand a check of the temperatures will show it's well within safety limits. It can overheat doing things like gaming whilst charging or running a nav program whilst charging but in severe cases overheat protection will kick in to prevent damage.
I have a camera with purple tint issue and it is not because of heat.
Until now the issue is not resolved by HTC. Some users got a perfect camera when they bought it, but a few months later their camera became defective without any reason.
So, if camera is a main point for you, you better rethink again. Also don't forget to check after sales service in your country. In my country, it is terrible. Been waiting camara's part for almost 3 months, still no news.
You can also check purple tint thread in this forum for more info.
I have this phone for a couple of months now and I am satisfied with it but there are some things to consider.
1. The issue with the camera is difficult in a way that it is subjective, and it takes a little bit of trying to replicate. So there might be guys saying they don't have it because they simply haven't noticed it. However looking at the poll in the widely know post about that issue, clearly tells me it is a general thing, even taking into account guys that deny it. Our best bet now is that it is due to sensor overheating.
When I first saw that thread myself, I have tried what the guys were saying. Was covering the lens, was shooting dark photos and I came to conclusion that mine camera is fine, but it either grow on me or the sensor got damaged over time as now I can clearly see the issue.
2. I am using GPE rom on it and while it is very nice and all, now when I think about it - the phone is as good as the software on it. If I was living in the US and could buy Nexus 4 for that cheap I would definitely choose Nexus 4, and then with saved money update to another Google device. Here in Europe the difference in price between Nexus 4 and Htc One is not that big. That being said, if you are going to use GPE rom on it and value your money, Nexus 4 is a better option in my opinion.
However if you want better specs and want a device that will last you a little bit longer then Htc One is perfectly fine.
3. If you are not going to use GPE rom but the stock Sense one then I gotta tell you that it is very solid. It is so much better than TouchWiz that this is crazy.
4. The quality control at HTC seems to be low. If you want a perfect device with no gaps with no recessed buttons, with the display that is perfectly aligned with the rest of the body, prepare yourself that this might not happen on the first try.
Ciebiada said:
I have this phone for a couple of months now and I am satisfied with it but there are some things to consider.
1. The issue with the camera is difficult in a way that it is subjective, and it takes a little bit of trying to replicate. So there might be guys saying they don't have it because they simply haven't noticed it. However looking at the poll in the widely know post about that issue, clearly tells me it is a general thing, even taking into account guys that deny it. Our best bet now is that it is due to sensor overheating.
When I first saw that thread myself, I have tried what the guys were saying. Was covering the lens, was shooting dark photos and I came to conclusion that mine camera is fine, but it either grow on me or the sensor got damaged over time as now I can clearly see the issue.
2. I am using GPE rom on it and while it is very nice and all, now when I think about it - the phone is as good as the software on it. If I was living in the US and could buy Nexus 4 for that cheap I would definitely choose Nexus 4, and then with saved money update to another Google device. Here in Europe the difference in price between Nexus 4 and Htc One is not that big. That being said, if you are going to use GPE rom on it and value your money, Nexus 4 is a better option in my opinion.
However if you want better specs and want a device that will last you a little bit longer then Htc One is perfectly fine.
3. If you are not going to use GPE rom but the stock Sense one then I gotta tell you that it is very solid. It is so much better than TouchWiz that this is crazy.
4. The quality control at HTC seems to be low. If you want a perfect device with no gaps with no recessed buttons, with the display that is perfectly aligned with the rest of the body, prepare yourself that this might not happen on the first try.
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Much appreciated mate ! Was really helpful !! I think I'm going to wait a little bit .. just to see how HTC is going to react to the camera thingy
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Hi there,
It does "overheat" but still stays alive.
Also when u make over 500 pictures in a very short time (I did 5x 100 quick burst shot pictures) my phone heats up very much and I get that big purple dot. Goes away quick after cooling my phone down.
I also have not experienced any problems with my camera. I guess the ones that have a camera that's okay don't feel the need to comment on that thread, making it look like almost everyone has it.
And yes, it does get warm at times. It shouldn't get any hotter than, say, a Galaxy S4 (same processor, but slightly higher clocked), but it is possible that it's easier to feel because of the aluminium design. If you wouldn't feel the warmth, it'd mean all the warmth stays inside the device, which in turn is bad for the processor.
htcm7 said:
I have a camera with purple tint issue and it is not because of heat.
Until now the issue is not resolved by HTC. Some users got a perfect camera when they bought it, but a few months later their camera became defective without any reason.
So, if camera is a main point for you, you better rethink again. Also don't forget to check after sales service in your country. In my country, it is terrible. Been waiting camara's part for almost 3 months, still no news.
You can also check purple tint thread in this forum for more info.
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can you plz tell me where did you buy your phone from and when ?
I was debating and then I was like "what was I thinking" though the camera is mediocre, and speakers are Ok, everything else is fantastic.
I was going to wait for the HTC one2, and realized that more than likely no other phone soon will be able to last as long as the z1 with their battery saving software.
to be honest with you, as much as I complain about my Z1, overall there isnt one device out there for me that tops it. Just hope that the new update will do something to the Camera and 4K vid recording is something I really really wanted, but not enough to move be back to Samsung.
I have Z1, SGS4 and used the nexus 5 for a day and a half, I will compare them below
Nexus 5 best performance but lack features
SGS4 worst performance (too much lag and stuttering) but has lots of features (most of which are useless and no-one actually uses them except to show off)
Z1 excellent performance (almost identical to the nexus 5) and has some useful features like camera apps, small apps ...etc
Although the Z1 is not perfect (nothing is perfect), but it is the best overall phone out there. I will get chance to play with the HTC ONE for few days in a week or two then I will probably be able to say what is the best phone currently available (apart from the LG G2 which I haven't had the chance to play with).
Not even considered it, got it sim free and I'm happy with it
I returned mine because I spotted a dead (or maybe stuck) pixel on the screen. I hope I'll have better luck next time.
I am very very disappointed in the camera, the speaker is actually close to top considering its a tiny waterproof speaker but I love every thing else about the Z1 so no, I didn't return my device and I wont be doing so.
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to be honest with you, as much as I complain about my Z1, overall there isnt one device out there for me that tops it. Just hope that the new update will do something to the Camera and 4K vid recording is something I really really wanted, but not enough to move be back to Samsung.
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I'm interested in knowing why since I was thinking about getting the Note 3.
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DAddYE said:
I'm interested in knowing why since I was thinking about getting the Note 3.
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Actually I had the Note 3, it is the worst mistake that I made up until now!
now the problems I had with it are more philosophical than fair, so to make it fair I'll only point out the problems that "others" consider worthy!
1. Not so great looking even though its an improvement over the S4 and Note 2
2. Has A LOT of bloat ware
3. Cheap looking/feeling device (like all Samsungs)
4. Depending on what you do with it scales form lagging a couple of times a day to constantly lagging (I couldn't handle the lag so...)
5. Bigger than most people would want it to be (I actually where okay with it mainly because I didn't called anyone with it)
6. You would look Very-Very stupid talking with it on the street or anywhere else for that matter!
DAddYE said:
I'm interested in knowing why since I was thinking about getting the Note 3.
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mostly personally preference but Im coming from a S3 owner, but here are some of the reasons
-touchwiz, hate it with a passion, actually got to play with a real note 3 today at the store and it actually still lag a little bit like seriously lol?! Checked the ram consumption it always over 1.2+ gigs after I clear everything it goes back up quickly no wonder why they keep added more rams for all the galaxy phones. My Z1 has to be on for a couple of weeks to hit over 1 gig and generally around 0.9.
-hate OLED colors, it has gotten a lot better with the pentile problem but still not enough to bring me back. Triluminos looks better to me straight on even if you have to sacrifice the wash out colors in extreme angles which I never look at my phone that way. Plus I see color shifting problems on Note 3, like yellow would turn green in a angle, so viewing angle is not a clear victory on the note 3 neither (same with Nexus 5 and G2 which have their own problems in extreme angle when I played with them today). Didn't get to do out door test with the note 3 not sure if it become unreadable under the sun.
-Built quality, I dont think I need to say much here, just personally when I pay hundreds of dollars for a flashship device I want it to actually feel like a flagship device.
the only features in the Note 3 that I want in the Z1 is the 4K video recording, downsampling 4K video to play on 1080p screen is a huge difference. You don't need a 4K display to take advantage of it. I used to think that the multi screen features from note2 and S3 is going to make me happy with my S3 again, but after the update came out I've never use it once.... Its all personal preference so those my not apply to others.
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I have Z1, SGS4 and used the nexus 5 for a day and a half, I will compare them below
Nexus 5 best performance but lack features
SGS4 worst performance (too much lag and stuttering) but has lots of features (most of which are useless and no-one actually uses them except to show off)
Z1 excellent performance (almost identical to the nexus 5) and has some useful features like camera apps, small apps ...etc
Although the Z1 is not perfect (nothing is perfect), but it is the best overall phone out there. I will get chance to play with the HTC ONE for few days in a week or two then I will probably be able to say what is the best phone currently available (apart from the LG G2 which I haven't had the chance to play with).
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I'm coming from Note 2, Galaxy s4 and HTC one to Sony Z1, apart from note 2 (which I liked) the other's are disappointing s4 has lag and loads of stupid features you turn off, HTC One was boring and battery life was rubbish plus I was scared to scrape or dent the metal (best sound though) . I was wanting Note 3 but too expensive and cant believe it still has lag, plus Knox! (which totally put me off s4)
Sony Z1 feels premium has a decent enough camera and battery is probably the best with the note 2 I've had.
Before I had Z1 I was waiting for Nexus 5 and was going to sell s4, but after seeing it, Z1 is much better.
Thank you all guys you opened (again) my eyes. There are just few things that make me sad about the Z1.
- camera is not so fantastic. Unless you have the stone hand just pressing the hw button from focus to shoot makes the phone shaking and the picture a little blurry. This is almost not noticeable with high lights but as soon start to be a little darker things gets worse. Thus in low lights this camera is totally incapable to take decent pictures, what you see 'good' in your screen will be post processed and 'destroyed'. No manual mode could help ATM.
- freaking hardware buttons
I can't believe that my 5" real estate triluminus 400+ DPI 1080 **** should have a damn waste of space: soft keys IMHO are the android cancer. Now I'm using a pie (after gtm) it's okay but still annoying and uncomfortable. I'll be happy to pay one dollar more and have at least a central hw button. Note that I compared twitter, Google+ and Chrome with the iPhone and on the smaller 4" there is much more space!!! This piss me off!!!!
- unlock the boot loader. I used to pay the retail price in order to not increase the US mafia of carriers. After more than a month this phone isn't really unlockable. No official words from Sony about the fact they are working for a fix or a date. This scares me.
- 2013 and our display is not oleophobic. This makes me sad even more when a friend tell me: cool phone can I see it? And my screen is a finger print fest. Tried almost any good screen protector antifinger print. None of them really works without decrease the screen quality.
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Just one tip.
Don't compare N5 and Z1 now.
Wait until Z1 gets 4.4 then you'll see what Z1 is capable to do.
As I said few times, it's better to have great camera (hardware) which is fixable than great software without hardware support.
Z1 has great camera and with 4.4 update we will have the best device money can buy...
Everyone compares N5 and Z1 now and all of them are unique in conclusion - these two devices are similar but remember we are comparing 4.2.2 with 4.4 - so you can just imagine Z1 with a KitKat under the hood
It will fly
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Nexus 5 is the best smartphone I ever had but there are some things I don't like in it.
Cons:
1. Battery life is the first one. Switching from Note II to the Nexus 5 (thanks to Mike) really made a difference on the battery life.
2. Camera app is so slow and needs a lot of improvements. (Google is working on it)
3. This one is very minor but i will say it, are the glossy bezel on the white variant. I would prefer it to be just like on the black one.
Pros:
1. FAST, I mean really fast
2. Great support here on XDA :good:
3. Other then those 3 cons love this phone!
So guys and girls, what do you love/hate about your Nexus 5?
Cons:
Dust / dirt gets trapped around the bezel
Nexus X on back not coloured in
Pros:
Fast
Great battery life
Good multitasking
Nice feel
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It gets amazing battery life for only being 2300. I'm getting around 5 hours heavy usage but I don't use syncing and I have strong lte and WiFi wherever I go.
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FuMMoD said:
It gets amazing battery life for only being 2300. I'm getting around 5 hours heavy usage but I don't use syncing and I have strong lte and WiFi wherever I go.
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Most of the time I use 3G and I had never reached 4 hours SOT....sync OFF and manual screen brightness around 15-25%.
rootSU said:
Cons:
Dust / dirt gets trapped around the bezel
Nexus X on back not coloured in
Pros:
Fast
Great battery life
Good multitasking
Nice feel
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Was gonna mention that exact thing it's soo damn annoying! ><
on my galaxy nexus if i erased by factory reset i still have my things on my internal storage ...i just found out (the Hard Way) that it is not the same on the nexus 5 when you do a factory reset on this bad boy it takes EVERTHING off .....but other than that the phone is great love it and glad to have one.......
Same as the guy above me, I had GNex and whenever I factory cleared it, the photos would stay on. Not so with Nexus 5, other then that it's an amazing device.
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My two biggest complaints are the godawful screen and terrible speaker placement. If it had a better screen, I'd probably actually use it, but it's been pretty much collecting dust since I got it. Already filed an RMA with Google, I have to send it back by tomorrow if I'm going to, but I'm still undecided on what I'm going to do.
****ty camera and power/volume buttons directly opposite each other so I'm constantly changing the volume whenever I try to power on the screen
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Love the screen
Love the GPS accuracy and speed
Love the speed and snappy feel of the phone
Love "Ok Google"
Like the battery
Like the build quality and overall asthetics
Sorta like the camera
Wish the speaker was a little louder
I could have bought a mint condition GS4 for less than what I paid for this phone. I feel like I made the right choice.
Pluses:
- Speed
- fluidity (the most fluid android device)
- Amazing display
- Great design
- Kitkat with Google launcher experience
Minuses:
- speaker
In between:
- Battery life is decent
- Camera is good enough
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The only thing I wish is if they could have cut down the bottom bezel and lower the over all foot print its not to big for me I just love the way the moto x feels
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Have all the same pros as everyone else. My only con has been getting used to the earpiece, I seem to hunt for it almost every time I get a call.
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Pros:
Nexus, so easy root and lots of devs
Fast
Thin
Looks good
Good battery life
Beautiful display
Light
KitKat
Small bezel
Con's:
Recents button is laggy on dalvik
Glossy sides on white
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I really love:
* the snapdrangon 800
* screen SIZE
* design
* call quality
* finally LTE!!!!!!!
* new Google now/ "OK Google"
I dislike:
# the screen quality
# speaker placement and quality
# camera
Overall its a great device. And for the unlocked price its unbeatable by anything else on the market... Except maybe motoG???:what:
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Came from a Galaxy Note 2 and not looking back.
Pros
Beautiful screen
KitKat
Decent battery life
Developer support
Wireless charging out the box
Unlocked phone
Cons
No micro SD
Speakers
Slow camera (pics aren't that bad)
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mr_mojorisen said:
Love the screen
Love the GPS accuracy and speed
Love the speed and snappy feel of the phone
Love "Ok Google"
Like the battery
Like the build quality and overall asthetics
Sorta like the camera
Wish the speaker was a little louder
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Agreed with you exactly. so I decided to just quote you. The speaker was expected to be worse than my HTC One, but I did expect it to be as good as a Samsung speaker.. My Wife's Note 2 is amazing, even though it is rear mounted. The speaker for the N5 seems limited.. I am not confident that any software update will make any dramatic improvements. For watching news clips or youtube, it'll do. But, it does seem cheap and dull.
After settling in, I like the fact that it is lighter and has a larger screen in roughly the same size as the One. Besides the speaker quality, which I can handle, I do not regret the change.
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I get about ~30 hours with light usage for a few calls and checking news and few short videos on youtube. My signal is not the best when at work.. and it seems to make it worse to go back and forth from LTE to 3g alot.
I use an app that has worked well in my past devices called 2x battery. Does anyone else use battery mgnt apps? Is it better to leave KitKat alone and do apps like 2x battery only provide a placebo effect?
No Imessage.
Bad camera.
Twitter app feels weird.
No emoji support on native keyboard.
Everything else is amazing
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@Shark_On_Land iMessage is so glitchy anyways, I'm always shocked when iFans try to brag about it. As for Twitter, take that up with them, that's not Android's fault. I am, however, assuming you came from an iPhone, so welcome to the bright side of the world
Otherwise, I can concur with the dust being annoying. I have the Spigen Slim Armor and every time I take it off I have to clean the dust out.
My only other question for @frarredo and @_MetalHead_ is how can you possibly complain about the screen quality? At 445 ppi and full 1080p I don't think you're even allowed to do that...
Really, really dislike the horrible battery life.
That is all.
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