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Does anyone know what system app might control the phones ability to use the trusted devices? I've disabled a few of the motorola things (moto care, device manager and a few others) and my truck's BT is not activating the trusted device unlock. I don't know if it stopped working before/after I disabled the things I did.
I reinabled com.motorola.authentication and device manager (motorola's) but that did not seem to 'fix' it. I know at one time It did work. I tried re-pairing it this morning, but that didn't seem to help either.
Here's the full list of disabled apps/processes I have.
Backup Assistant Plus
Backup Assistant+ Contacts Client
Caller Name ID
Demo mode
Moto Care
MotoCare
MotoCareInt
Motorola Checkin
Motorola Migrate
My Verizon Mobile
Rescue Add-On: Motorola
Verizon Tones
Voicemail.
I reenabled:
com.motorola.authenticator
device manager.
TIA for any help!
Dmtalon said:
Does anyone know what system app might control the phones ability to use the trusted devices? I've disabled a few of the motorola things (moto care, device manager and a few others) and my truck's BT is not activating the trusted device unlock. I don't know if it stopped working before/after I disabled the things I did.
I reinabled com.motorola.authentication and device manager (motorola's) but that did not seem to 'fix' it. I know at one time It did work. I tried re-pairing it this morning, but that didn't seem to help either.
Here's the full list of disabled apps/processes I have.
Backup Assistant Plus
Backup Assistant+ Contacts Client
Caller Name ID
Demo mode
Moto Care
MotoCare
MotoCareInt
Motorola Checkin
Motorola Migrate
My Verizon Mobile
Rescue Add-On: Motorola
Verizon Tones
Voicemail.
I reenabled:
com.motorola.authenticator
device manager.
TIA for any help!
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Do you have Exchange email? The policies applied from that can disable it. I'm guessing it would be part of the core Android system since it is (probably) supported by default in Android, not something that Motorola added.
fury683 said:
Do you have Exchange email? The policies applied from that can disable it. I'm guessing it would be part of the core Android system since it is (probably) supported by default in Android, not something that Motorola added.
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I do (and have had) exchange setup since the phone was first setup. But I use EE (enhanced email not the stock email client) and bypass the exchange policy stuff. So, I don't believe that would be it. I saw it working with exchange on the phone.
Thank you for the idea though!
Dmtalon said:
Does anyone know what system app might control the phones ability to use the trusted devices? I've disabled a few of the motorola things (moto care, device manager and a few others) and my truck's BT is not activating the trusted device unlock. I don't know if it stopped working before/after I disabled the things I did.
I reinabled com.motorola.authentication and device manager (motorola's) but that did not seem to 'fix' it. I know at one time It did work. I tried re-pairing it this morning, but that didn't seem to help either.
Here's the full list of disabled apps/processes I have.
Backup Assistant Plus
Backup Assistant+ Contacts Client
Caller Name ID
Demo mode
Moto Care
MotoCare
MotoCareInt
Motorola Checkin
Motorola Migrate
My Verizon Mobile
Rescue Add-On: Motorola
Verizon Tones
Voicemail.
I reenabled:
com.motorola.authenticator
device manager.
TIA for any help!
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My guess is trusted devices... Was listed in my titanium backup... R u rooted?
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xpsychox said:
My guess is trusted devices... Was listed in my titanium backup... R u rooted?
Slapped my Moto
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I am on a Dev edition, unlocked and rooted. I do have TiBu and DO have a trusted devices listed, but not frozen. I hadn't even noticed that it was in there <sigh>. But being that its not frozen, I would like to think it should work. Thank you for pointing this out.
I'll mess with it a bit tonight in the garage and see what happens.
OK, so I got the trusted devices activated. What I did was force stop the trusted devices. I cleared the cache and data. Deleted the BT pair on both my phone and truck.
Rebooted, paired them back up and activated trusted devices.
It connected and activated after keying in my pattern.
Hopefully it sticks this time!
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Dmtalon said:
OK, so I got the trusted devices activated. What I did was force stop the trusted devices. I cleared the cache and data. Deleted the BT pair on both my phone and truck.
Rebooted, paired them back up and activated trusted devices.
It connected and activated after keying in my pattern.
Hopefully it sticks this time!
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Congrats...have u made an nandroid backup in case of an "oh s*it" moment like that? If so I'd make another..just to b safe...I usually make 2.. One of when I just get root access...and the 2nd after I make all the changes (freezing bloatware adding my apps and changing my settings for system and apps)
And don't feel bad..I only noticed cuz I was in ROM toolbox looking at running apps and I saw it... Then I happen to open xda app and saw ur post... Perfect timing! Lol
Slapped my Moto
xpsychox said:
Congrats...have u made an nandroid backup in case of an "oh s*it" moment like that? If so I'd make another..just to b safe...I usually make 2.. One of when I just get root access...and the 2nd after I make all the changes (freezing bloatware adding my apps and changing my settings for system and apps)
Slapped my Moto
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I believe my last is right before I installed xposed. which was before I froze the apps I did. After this works as is for a few days, I will re-freeze device manager (motorola's) and com.motorola.authentication (the two I unfroze in an attempt to fix it) and see if that does anything.
Dmtalon said:
I believe my last is right before I installed xposed. which was before I froze the apps I did. After this works as is for a few days, I will re-freeze device manager (motorola's) and com.motorola.authentication (the two I unfroze in an attempt to fix it) and see if that does anything.
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Cool...lemme no so if I come across again I can help.
Slapped my Moto
I'm starting to disable apps, here is my list so far I'll probably add to it once I can use the phone as my DD later in the week.
Settings, Device Tab, Applications, Application Manager, All
3DTourViewer
Amazon
AT&T Family Map
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Live
AT&T Locker
AT&T Mail
AT&T Mobile Locate
AT&T Mobile Transfer
AT&T Navigator
Caller Name ID
Device Help
Dictionary
Digital Life
DriveMode
Facebook
Family Utility
Galaxy Apps
Galaxy Apps Widget
Hancom Office 2014
Instagram
Keeper
Lookout
Memo
Messenger
Milk
Milk Video
Mobile TV
myAT&T
OneNote
Pages Manager
S Beam
S Voice
Samsung account
Samsung Billing
Skype
Smart Limits
Smart Remote
Uber
Voice wake-up
YP
With Root, Apps Frozen:
AT&T Software Update
AT&T Remote Support
Music 6.0
My interests 1.0
My Places 1.0
SysScope 1.3.x
Obviously if you use Facebook, Instagram etc you wouldn't disable these but most of this is pure bloat. Why I wish GPE devices were more common...
Let me know if you have other things you disabled and if it had any side effects.
mrRobinson said:
I'm starting to disable apps, here is my list so far I'll probably add to it once I can use the phone as my DD later in the week.
Settings, Device Tab, Applications, Application Manager, All
AT&T Family Map
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Live
AT&T Locker
AT&T Mail
AT&T Mobile Locate
AT&T Mobile Transfer
AT&T Navigator
Caller Name ID
Device Help
Dictionary
Facebook
Family Utility
Hancom Office 2014
Instagram
Keeper
Lookout
Messenger
Milk
Milk Video
Mobile TV
myAT&T
OneNote
Pages Manager
S Beam
S Voice
Samsung account
Samsung Billing
Skype
Smart Limits
Uber
YP
Obviously if you use Facebook, Instagram etc you wouldn't disable these but most of this is pure bloat. Why I wish GPE devices were more common...
Let me know if you have other things you disabled and if it had any side effects.
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-Amazon
-digital life
-Google play games
-Google play movies and tv
-Google play music
-Google play newstand
Still testin these out when disabled
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rafael707 said:
-Amazon
-digital life
-Google play games
-Google play movies and tv
-Google play music
-Google play newstand
Still testin these out when disabled
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The google play stuff I'd hope people understand and are IMO, stock, so I won't put them on my list. Amazon I overlooked cause i actually had on my GPE device but its def not stock. Digital Life I just missed, good catch.
If you are not using the samsung weather widget also disable Weather Daemon it uses a lot of location battery.
What apps won't let u disable.. I've read there are a few.
crea78 said:
What apps won't let u disable.. I've read there are a few.
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A LOT! More than there should be certainly. Can not disable built-in EMail and it's 4 sub apps for instance
What is this ant + services?? Nevermind just searched and found
_Infamous_ said:
What is this ant + services?? Nevermind just searched and found
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Yea and one you can't disable. I've updated OP with more i've disabled with no negative side effects for me.
NOTE Edge debloater
I can't find the link, but, someone mentioned that the Edge Note debloater WILL work, and does.
Without root you can only hide apps, but, it allows you to hide some that you cannot using the built-in method, like EMAIL, BROWSER, ETC.
dirtyballoonot said:
I can't find the link, but, someone mentioned that the Edge Note debloater WILL work, and does.
Without root you can only hide apps, but, it allows you to hide some that you cannot using the built-in method, like EMAIL, BROWSER, ETC.
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Right, using the UI you can click disable to disable apps. For the ones that you can't disable you can "hide" with adb shell (or that tool).
That tool I think is only windows but i'd imagine it's simply leveraging the "pm" binary on android.
For example if i drop into an adb shell on my edge and run
pm hide com.sec.android.app.sbrowser
Then that samsung browser is now gone.
Just remember which you hide as they won't show up and the only way to bring them back is to run
pm unhide on it.
mrRobinson said:
Right, using the UI you can click disable to disable apps. For the ones that you can't disable you can "hide" with adb shell (or that tool).
That tool I think is only windows but i'd imagine it's simply leveraging the "pm" binary on android.
For example if i drop into an adb shell on my edge and run
pm hide com.sec.android.app.sbrowser
Then that samsung browser is now gone.
Just remember which you hide as they won't show up and the only way to bring them back is to run
pm unhide on it.
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So if im correct. When i "disable" an app using the actual phone, this will also keep the app from running (or any of its services) But using the Debloater app and i "hide" them the app can still run (or its services) correct?
krolla03 said:
So if im correct. When i "disable" an app using the actual phone, this will also keep the app from running (or any of its services) But using the Debloater app and i "hide" them the app can still run (or its services) correct?
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Correct but I thought the debloater would disable at least the ones you didn't need root for.
mrRobinson said:
Correct but I thought the debloater would disable at least the ones you didn't need root for.
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Damn i thought i was actually disabling them.
I've disabled Samsung Push Services and Visual Voicemail (I use Google Voice for my VM), and haven't run into any problems.
I am having a problem attempting to download a theme from the Theme Store and when I click on the download link, a white box will pop up and immediately disappear. I didn't disable anything I shouldn't have to make this occur. However, the Samsung apps I disabled are 3D TourViewer, Family Utility, Galaxy Apps/Widget, Smart Limits Anyone else have this problem??
Edit: Looks like Samsung Acct. isn't working for some reason. Under "Accounts" there is a grey circle and when I press on it, nothing happens, but kicks me to the previous screen...
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I am having a problem attempting to download a theme from the Theme Store and when I click on the download link, a white box will pop up and immediately disappear. I didn't disable anything I shouldn't have to make this occur. However, the Samsung apps I disabled are 3D TourViewer, Family Utility, Galaxy Apps/Widget, Smart Limits Anyone else have this problem??
Edit: Looks like Samsung Acct. isn't working for some reason. Under "Accounts" there is a grey circle and when I press on it, nothing happens, but kicks me to the previous screen...
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If you disabled Samsung Account (it is on OP's list), then it won't work. Go to Disabled, find it, and re-enable if you are using things that require it.
Got it to work by doing a factory reset
So it's been a while with all these apps disabled, my battery life is decent..
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The debloater app can actually restore all at once if you mess something up
Now that we have root what would be the best way to remove these apps
So I've read and seen various reports, including Samsung is allowing you to delete, which from what I've gathered, that didn't actually end up being true.
I'm on a Nexus 6 now, and considering getting an S6 or an S6E as I really don't care for the size of the Nexus. But how much bloatware is there on the phone? The AT&T phone had virtually none, and the rep ensured me that's the configuration of the phone when you buy it. Clearly, I've read differently. So as owners, how much bloatware is really on the phone?
Enough to spend a few minutes disabling it all. Probably 15-20 apps.
It's still pretty bad
I went from an S4 to the S6. The BW on the 4 was terrible and although the S6 is better it's still a lot for techies like us who don't want carriers/manufacturers trying to give us what they think we want.
I got the 64GB version and I am one who doesn't want anything taking up space that I didn't specifically ask for so I'll be checking the Original development forum regularly.
xeni said:
Enough to spend a few minutes disabling it all. Probably 15-20 apps.
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I have 43 apps disabled on mine but not all of them are AT&T bloat.
DISABLED APPS
- AT&T FamilyMap
- AT&T Hot Spots
- AT&T Live
- AT&T Locker
- AT&T Mail
- AT&T Mobile Locate
- AT&T Mobile Transfer
- AT&T Navigator
- Briefing
- Caller Name ID (AT&T)
- ChocoEUKor
- CoolEUKor
- Device Help
- Digital Life
- DriveMode
- Google Play Games
- Google Play Movies & TV
- Google Play Newsstand
- Hancom Office 2014
- Instagram
- Keeper
- Lookout
- Memo
- Messages
- Messages Backup & Sync
- Milk
- Milk Video
- Mobile TV
- OneNote
- Pages Manager
- Photo Studio
- RoseEUKor
- S Voice
- Samsung Print Service Plugin
- Skype
- Smart Limits
- Smart Remote
- Swype
- Theme Store
- Uber
- Visual Voicemail (AT&T)
- Voice Wake-up
- YP
So 10 AT&T apps disabled... there's really not a lot of "bloat" IMO. Most of the Samsung and other independent apps I disabled won't affect battery or performance either. I just disabled them out of habit.
AT&T apps I could not disable:
- AT&T Remote Support
- AT&T Software Update
KrakaJap said:
I have 43 apps disabled on mine but not all of them are AT&T bloat.
DISABLED APPS
- AT&T FamilyMap
- AT&T Hot Spots
- AT&T Live
- AT&T Locker
- AT&T Mail
- AT&T Mobile Locate
- AT&T Mobile Transfer
- AT&T Navigator
- Briefing
- Caller Name ID
- ChocoEUKor
- CoolEUKor
- Device Help
- Digital Life
- DriveMode
- Google Play Games
- Google Play Movies & TV
- Google Play Newsstand
- Hancom Office 2014
- Instagram
- Keeper
- Lookout
- Memo
- Messages
- Messages Backup & Sync
- Milk
- Milk Video
- Mobile TV
- OneNote
- Pages Manager
- Photo Studio
- RoseEUKor
- S Voice
- Samsung Print Service Plugin
- Skype
- Smart Limits
- Smart Remote
- Swype
- Theme Store
- Uber
- Visual Voicemail
- Voice Wake-up
- YP
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Not all of us consider some of those apps bloat, there are a couple on there that are actually useful and some that you actually need if you want to perform certain tasks.
The following I don't consider bloat because I use them:
- Google Play Games
- Google Play Movies & TV
- Google Play Newsstand
- Instagram
- Messages (Guessing you are using a different app for messaging)
- Samsung Print Service Plugin
- Skype
- Smart Remote
- Visual Voicemail
xeni said:
Not all of us consider some of those apps bloat, there are a couple on there that are actually useful and some that you actually need if you want to perform certain tasks.
The following I don't consider bloat because I use them:
- Google Play Games
- Google Play Movies & TV
- Google Play Newsstand
- Instagram
- Messages (Guessing you are using a different app for messaging)
- Samsung Print Service Plugin
- Skype
- Smart Remote
- Visual Voicemail
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Correct. I didn't call them bloat though But I did update my reply.
I don't personally use the ones you listed and I use Hangouts in place of Messages and Visual Voicemail. Smart Remote is pretty lame IMO and much prefer Smart IR Remote - AnyMote. But to be fair, none of these apps need to be disabled at all, not even the AT&T ones.
When I got my s6 32gb, it had right over 24gb left with basically no space that can be recovered. So there is a significant amount of bloatware... Disabling several apps helped a bit with ram but there is still a lot running in the background.
Xeni, just because you use the bloatware does not mean its not bloatware. If its not installed on vanilla version of Lollipop... Not required to allow hardware to work... And you cant delete it... Its bloatware.
I don't think anything available in the Play Store or Samsung's app store should be pre-installed, period. Unless you can "uninstall" it completely. This includes AOSP.
Like i said, some of us don't consider some of these apps bloat because we would install them anyway.
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Freezing apps
So please correct me if I am wrong, disabling the apps frees no space on the
phone? If disabled are some of them still running services in the back round?
I am on the fence about International or ATT S6. The International seems NOT to
have all the LTE bands that the ATT version has.
CC
cc999 said:
So please correct me if I am wrong, disabling the apps frees no space on the
phone? If disabled are some of them still running services in the back round?
I am on the fence about International or ATT S6. The International seems NOT to
have all the LTE bands that the ATT version has.
CC
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Disabling the app doesn't give back any space since these protected apps run in the system partition which is a separate partition from your regular partition where all of your apps/pictures/videos/etc are stored. If you disable the app it doesn't consume any CPU or Memory since it can't run or launch.
Read this: http://www.androidcentral.com/bloatware-galaxy-s-6-sucks-not-reasons-many-think
cc999 said:
So please correct me if I am wrong, disabling the apps frees no space on the
phone? If disabled are some of them still running services in the back round?
I am on the fence about International or ATT S6. The International seems NOT to
have all the LTE bands that the ATT version has.
CC
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"Disabling" does not... however when I disable apps I generally clear their app data as well and that is what frees up some space. But it's not really that much. With all my listed apps disabled and app data cleared I'm sitting at 21.74GB of free space. When you're talking about ~20GB of available storage, that 1 extra GB isn't going to mean much... if it is, then the 64GB model should have been considered instead. I suppose it's pretty relative but I'm personally not going to complain about ~1GB of (what some might refer to as) bloat.
EDIT: I should also mention that I have a lot of other apps installed taking up quite a bit of space. The 1GB increase I saw might be completely different for someone else as some of those disabled apps I had loaded and played around with, thus accumulating more app data and cache.
My 64 gig Edge will be arriving today. What can I safely disable/uninstall on this phone? I understand that since it's not rooted (and won't be until it's been proven safe to do so somewhere down the line), I have limited options. Even though my options are limited, I'd like to do as much as possible. I don't have it in hand yet, but I'd like to begin getting rid of some crapware once it does arrive. Thank you for any input on this.
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My 64 gig Edge will be arriving today. What can I safely disable/uninstall on this phone? I understand that since it's not rooted (and won't be until it's been proven safe to do so somewhere down the line), I have limited options. Even though my options are limited, I'd like to do as much as possible. I don't have it in hand yet, but I'd like to begin getting rid of some crapware once it does arrive. Thank you for any input on this.
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Without the root, you can only disable apps. Some apps you can completely uninstall, but the number of apps you can uninstall is very limited. If system lets you disable/uninstall apps, that mean it's safe to do it.
On the stock launcher you can look in the upper corner of the app launcher and hit edit,,,this will let you either uninstall or disable the apps that the system will allow.
bpmamom said:
My 64 gig Edge will be arriving today. What can I safely disable/uninstall on this phone? I understand that since it's not rooted (and won't be until it's been proven safe to do so somewhere down the line), I have limited options. Even though my options are limited, I'd like to do as much as possible. I don't have it in hand yet, but I'd like to begin getting rid of some crapware once it does arrive. Thank you for any input on this.
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I uninstalled everything that I was able to uninstall, and I have disabled (and gotten no errors so far):
Amazon
Amazon Kindle
Amazon Music
Caller Name ID
Cloud
Gmail
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Newsstand
Google+
IMDb
Instagram
Message+
Messages
Milk
Milk Video
My InfoZone
NFL Mobile
Slacker Radio
Support & Protection
VZ Navigator
This question has probably been asked before but is there a way to remove "everything" Google related? I'm using stock rom. I have MetroPCS.
I know that by removing some Google apps will cause dependency issues but is there any way to do this with no problems whatsoever? Thanks
Donavonn said:
This question has probably been asked before but is there a way to remove "everything" Google related? I'm using stock rom. I have MetroPCS.
I know that by removing some Google apps will cause dependency issues but is there any way to do this with no problems whatsoever? Thanks
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I have the Metropcs e5 plus and have disabled most Google services. Some apps throw up a notification saying they won't work unless Google play services is enabled, messages, contacts, etc. I've found they generally work fine just disable that notification. Make sure and remove the Google app from being and assist app in settings.
I used to have all Google stuff disabled but right now I'm using Gboard, maps (as a backup to here), the default messages apps and contacts. Mainly I've disabled the Google core spyware apps — play services, framework, search, store, etc.
Most bloat and garbage on this device can be disabled except for a couple Moto apps. I thought about rooting but really wouldn't be gaining much.
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Magic gapps works perfect on my moto e 5plus. I simply when not using an app that needs playstore running. I hit module off resart phone. Then go to an app disabler disable device health ,google playstore and google playservices. Everything else is systemlessly disabled. I get no annoying notifications except one on reboot. Also gboard works with all things google disabled. Hope my experience helps you out.