[Q] BT Trusted Device not activating - Moto X Q&A

Does anyone know what system app might control the phones ability to use the trusted devices? I've disabled a few of the motorola things (moto care, device manager and a few others) and my truck's BT is not activating the trusted device unlock. I don't know if it stopped working before/after I disabled the things I did.
I reinabled com.motorola.authentication and device manager (motorola's) but that did not seem to 'fix' it. I know at one time It did work. I tried re-pairing it this morning, but that didn't seem to help either.
Here's the full list of disabled apps/processes I have.
Backup Assistant Plus
Backup Assistant+ Contacts Client
Caller Name ID
Demo mode
Moto Care
MotoCare
MotoCareInt
Motorola Checkin
Motorola Migrate
My Verizon Mobile
Rescue Add-On: Motorola
Verizon Tones
Voicemail.
I reenabled:
com.motorola.authenticator
device manager.
TIA for any help!

Dmtalon said:
Does anyone know what system app might control the phones ability to use the trusted devices? I've disabled a few of the motorola things (moto care, device manager and a few others) and my truck's BT is not activating the trusted device unlock. I don't know if it stopped working before/after I disabled the things I did.
I reinabled com.motorola.authentication and device manager (motorola's) but that did not seem to 'fix' it. I know at one time It did work. I tried re-pairing it this morning, but that didn't seem to help either.
Here's the full list of disabled apps/processes I have.
Backup Assistant Plus
Backup Assistant+ Contacts Client
Caller Name ID
Demo mode
Moto Care
MotoCare
MotoCareInt
Motorola Checkin
Motorola Migrate
My Verizon Mobile
Rescue Add-On: Motorola
Verizon Tones
Voicemail.
I reenabled:
com.motorola.authenticator
device manager.
TIA for any help!
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Do you have Exchange email? The policies applied from that can disable it. I'm guessing it would be part of the core Android system since it is (probably) supported by default in Android, not something that Motorola added.

fury683 said:
Do you have Exchange email? The policies applied from that can disable it. I'm guessing it would be part of the core Android system since it is (probably) supported by default in Android, not something that Motorola added.
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I do (and have had) exchange setup since the phone was first setup. But I use EE (enhanced email not the stock email client) and bypass the exchange policy stuff. So, I don't believe that would be it. I saw it working with exchange on the phone.
Thank you for the idea though!

Dmtalon said:
Does anyone know what system app might control the phones ability to use the trusted devices? I've disabled a few of the motorola things (moto care, device manager and a few others) and my truck's BT is not activating the trusted device unlock. I don't know if it stopped working before/after I disabled the things I did.
I reinabled com.motorola.authentication and device manager (motorola's) but that did not seem to 'fix' it. I know at one time It did work. I tried re-pairing it this morning, but that didn't seem to help either.
Here's the full list of disabled apps/processes I have.
Backup Assistant Plus
Backup Assistant+ Contacts Client
Caller Name ID
Demo mode
Moto Care
MotoCare
MotoCareInt
Motorola Checkin
Motorola Migrate
My Verizon Mobile
Rescue Add-On: Motorola
Verizon Tones
Voicemail.
I reenabled:
com.motorola.authenticator
device manager.
TIA for any help!
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My guess is trusted devices... Was listed in my titanium backup... R u rooted?
Slapped my Moto

xpsychox said:
My guess is trusted devices... Was listed in my titanium backup... R u rooted?
Slapped my Moto
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I am on a Dev edition, unlocked and rooted. I do have TiBu and DO have a trusted devices listed, but not frozen. I hadn't even noticed that it was in there <sigh>. But being that its not frozen, I would like to think it should work. Thank you for pointing this out.
I'll mess with it a bit tonight in the garage and see what happens.

OK, so I got the trusted devices activated. What I did was force stop the trusted devices. I cleared the cache and data. Deleted the BT pair on both my phone and truck.
Rebooted, paired them back up and activated trusted devices.
It connected and activated after keying in my pattern.
Hopefully it sticks this time!
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk

Dmtalon said:
OK, so I got the trusted devices activated. What I did was force stop the trusted devices. I cleared the cache and data. Deleted the BT pair on both my phone and truck.
Rebooted, paired them back up and activated trusted devices.
It connected and activated after keying in my pattern.
Hopefully it sticks this time!
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
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Congrats...have u made an nandroid backup in case of an "oh s*it" moment like that? If so I'd make another..just to b safe...I usually make 2.. One of when I just get root access...and the 2nd after I make all the changes (freezing bloatware adding my apps and changing my settings for system and apps)
And don't feel bad..I only noticed cuz I was in ROM toolbox looking at running apps and I saw it... Then I happen to open xda app and saw ur post... Perfect timing! Lol
Slapped my Moto

xpsychox said:
Congrats...have u made an nandroid backup in case of an "oh s*it" moment like that? If so I'd make another..just to b safe...I usually make 2.. One of when I just get root access...and the 2nd after I make all the changes (freezing bloatware adding my apps and changing my settings for system and apps)
Slapped my Moto
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I believe my last is right before I installed xposed. which was before I froze the apps I did. After this works as is for a few days, I will re-freeze device manager (motorola's) and com.motorola.authentication (the two I unfroze in an attempt to fix it) and see if that does anything.

Dmtalon said:
I believe my last is right before I installed xposed. which was before I froze the apps I did. After this works as is for a few days, I will re-freeze device manager (motorola's) and com.motorola.authentication (the two I unfroze in an attempt to fix it) and see if that does anything.
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Cool...lemme no so if I come across again I can help.
Slapped my Moto

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[Q] [REQUEST] Motorola Services apk and NOT working Avast Anti-Theft web commands

It can be an interesting read!
Hi everyone! Do you use Avast Anti-Theft? ...
I have a problem and I'd like to check for possible reasons. Please help me!
I hope someone can send me the apk for Motorola Services (com.motorola.blur.service.blur.apk),
in a list of stock Razr i system apks the one for Motorola Services is called CCE.apk. (for stock Razr i ICS)
I think I need that app cause since it's gone Avast Anti Theft commands sent from the Avast site are not working,
the phone doesn't receive the commands. Sms commands sent to the phone do work.
I wanted to freeze these apps but forgot it and uninstalled them :/ These: (com.motorola.)atcmdlauncher.apk,
atcmdplugin.epu.apk, atcmdplugin.apk, atcmd.apk, atCommandService, AtProxy, BrowserMessage,
omadrm.apk, modempanicreporter.apk, meter.wisl.apk, smspush, DeviceStatistics, ModemStats,
OMAclienteprovisioning, OMAdownload, and others different other days.
Do you think this problem can be because of the lack of some of those apps?
If so, although I can't be exact, the last location hour reported in the avast anti theft maps is near the time I was
playing with my device. Which one can be the problem? Although, as of now with 5 days with this problem the location,
batery state and some configuration changes have been updated some times, but the Commands [still] don't work.
Everything else is working fine (wifi, 3G, Play Store, G+, online Gameloft games, maps, browser, etc).
And what is weird is that backups for all those apps are not working. The one for Motorola Services
shows only some kb of size (unusable). And other bad thing is that even if I restore the other missing apps they don't stick
and don't work, they're gone after reboot. :/ How to restore them?
I hope you guys can help me get back those apps so I can see if that's the problem.
Another reason can be: I was annoyed by the several Google Services (Google Play Services app) processes
running all the time. So I used ROM Toolbox's Advanced Freeze feature and unchecked to disable some of them.
It was all good for some days ("got rid" of them) untill I noticed my location in the Anti-theft maps wasn't updating... it all begun.
I had disabled Google Cloud Messaging (GCM.service) without knowing it (+ others) u.u But, I really think everything
else was working fine, though (even with GCM disabled o,o).
I noticed this because Avast site reported something like "GCM service is disabled in your device. Communication is not possible.
You'll be notified when it's back" when I tried to send commands. So I restored all of those processes to normal state.
Like 2 days after that Avast reported GCM was online again. I thought everything was Ok now, but no! Still the problem persists.
What I don't know if it's a problem caused by me or it's a default state is: When I check out Google Play Services in the running
processes view of ROM Toolbox app, then enter the Advanced Freeze view, the receivers "icing.impl.PowerConnectedReceiver"
and "mdm.ConnectivityReceiver" are disabled. I check their boxes to enable them, but after rebooting they are disabled again.
I'd like you guys check what is the state of these receivers in your Razr i, please. So I can know
To finish up, I, also, recommend Avast antivirus, if wanted it can be uninstalled after its Anti Theft feature is installed. I don't know how
hack proof it can be, but it can be very, very useful, specially because of the several remote commands it has. Try it n.n
I'm going to purchase the premium service after I get this problem solved. I have already sent my help
request to Avast on saturday. I'm waiting working days to get a reply.
Thanks for your kind help!
- L.
Solved!
Problem solved!
The problem was my router's firewall, it was miss-behaving. Ha
I disabled the Firewall and the device started to receive the web commans again n.n
I'm glad to know those System apps I deleted are not needed at all in the end. (But GCM (a.k.a. C2DM) do is needed for several tasks, of course)
Thanks for reading!
- L.

Any way to de-google the stock ROM?

I just hate having all of those Google apps in the drawer and sideways seeing then update on Wi-Fi. I know you can turn them off, but I don't even use then except for maps. What's the best way to eliminate them? Freeze them
If your phone isn't rooted, the only thing I know you can do is freeze the apps you don't wanna se running. Otherwise, if it's rooted, you can install, for example, Titanium Backup and give it root permission, so it can remove system apps from your phone.
But there are plenty other apps which requires root access and can remove system apps for free in the Play Store.
Yeah I am rooted. What I wanted to know is what I can remove...
mroneeyedboh said:
I just hate having all of those Google apps in the drawer and sideways seeing then update on Wi-Fi. I know you can turn them off, but I don't even use then except for maps. What's the best way to eliminate them? Freeze them
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De-google android? That's an interesting goal.
Which apps in particular? Some you can be safe removing, others are going to provide functionality to other apps you may use. You can freeze them with TB, or disable them, but I wouldn't delete them unless I've ran for a good period of time without issues.
You can run without many of the core google apps, as devices/distros which aren't certified for the play store will show you. It's just not always a pleasant experience.
I guess what I meant wasn't 100% de-google... But more so the apps and bloat on thevX that I don't use
While we're talking about this, I'd like to ask which Motorola apps we can disable as well? I do use touchless control, assist, and active notifications.. but are there other moto services we can freeze? I though moto connect was cool at first but don't use it that much.. There are just so many services i don't wanna mesa anything up.
mroneeyedboh said:
I guess what I meant wasn't 100% de-google... But more so the apps and bloat on thevX that I don't use
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If you have custom recovery, check the DeBloat link in my signature. If not, you can use you the apps listed in my script as a guide for what to be deleted.
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vikramkhalsa said:
While we're talking about this, I'd like to ask which Motorola apps we can disable as well? I do use touchless control, assist, and active notifications.. but are there other moto services we can freeze? I though moto connect was cool at first but don't use it that much.. There are just so many services i don't wanna mesa anything up.
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It depend on which Motorola services you want to use.
These are what I disabled, but some of the services may be essential to you:
Audio Effects
Device Management (for finding lost phone)
Help
Motorola Assist (detect driving mode)
Motorola Checkin (not sure)
Motorola Connect (see text messages on PC)
Motorola ID
Motorola Migrate (transfer data from other phones)
Motorola Skip (NFC tag to unlock)
Motorola Spotlight (3D cartoon)
eksasol said:
If you have custom recovery, check the DeBloat link in my signature. If not, you can use you the apps listed in my script as a guide for what to be deleted.
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It depend on which Motorola services you want to use.
These are what I disabled, but some of the services may be essential to you:
Audio Effects
Device Management (for finding lost phone)
Help
Motorola Assist (detect driving mode)
Motorola Checkin (not sure)
Motorola Connect (see text messages on PC)
Motorola ID
Motorola Migrate (transfer data from other phones)
Motorola Skip (NFC tag to unlock)
Motorola Spotlight (3D cartoon)
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Thanks bro. I do have TWRP installed.
How, exactly, does freezing apps debloat your phone? They're still taking up space in memory.

[Q] Google Now Hotword

So I just got a Moto X. Out of the box, Google Now hotword detection ("Ok Google") worked perfectly both in Google Now and in the Google Now launcher that I sideloaded. Then, hotword detection randomly turned off. If I uninstall and reinstall updates to the Google Search app, hotword is temporarily fixed, but it won't last more than a day until it turns off again. This happens whether or not Motorola's own Touchless Controls are enabled or disabled.
It seems like some other app is causing it to turn off since a third-party hotword detection app wouldn't work, either, but I've hardly installed any apps since I just got it.
Also, I've already tried the most common suggestions such as ensuring that my voice input language is English (US) and making sure than no Accessibility options are enabled.
Any help to get back hotword detection would be greatly appreciated!
The newest Google search update broke hotword. The only way to keep it working for now is to uninstall the update and not install it again until possibly the next update.
Do you know what the latest version of Google Search is that still supports hotwords so I can grab an apk? When I revert back to the factory version of Google Search, it breaks the Google Now Launcher.
Also, any idea why hotwords would work for a while and then randomly stop. This has happened several times, all while I've had the same version of Search.
Uninstall back to 3.1. Make your changes then install 3.2, this is where Hotword Detection is still there but not selectable and Ok Google works. Now install 3.3, Hotword is no longer there but Ok Google still works. Don't install 3.4, you loose both.
Worked for me twice, I accidentally hit Update All and got 3.4 back, had to start over. I've been back on 3.3 for a week or so and Ok Google still works.
I uninstalled to 3.1 (factory version), and did get hotword back, but I couldn't use the Google Now Launcher. Installed 3.2 and still had hotword, but still not Google Now Launcher. Finally, I installed 3.3, I still had hotword, and the Google Now Launcher worked. But a few hours later, hotword got disabled again.
It doesn't seem like the problem is tied to a version. I've gotten hotword to work with 3.4, but it becomes disabled after a little while of use.
micahmo said:
I uninstalled to 3.1 (factory version), and did get hotword back, but I couldn't use the Google Now Launcher. Installed 3.2 and still had hotword, but still not Google Now Launcher. Finally, I installed 3.3, I still had hotword, and the Google Now Launcher worked. But a few hours later, hotword got disabled again.
It doesn't seem like the problem is tied to a version. I've gotten hotword to work with 3.4, but it becomes disabled after a little while of use.
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In previous versions of Google search, you could say "Okay Google" instead of "Okay Google Now" to activate the hotword when you had the Google app open? I just recently bought the phone and it came already with the newest version of Google Now installed.
I don't think you've ever been able to say "Ok Google Now" as a hotword to activate voice search in the Google app. "Ok Google Now" is Motorola's keyword for its Touchless Controls. Touchless Controls have always worked for me, but when I'm in the Google app (or in the Google Now launcher that I sideloaded), I prefer to use Google's own hotword, "Ok Google" to activate voice search.
Out of the box, my phone also came with the latest version of Google Now installed, and hotword worked out of the box, but for some reason it became disabled. Any time I uninstall and reinstall Google Search (or even clear data), hotword is restored temporarily, but then becomes disabled again after a while.
Did you leave Touchless Control untrained? I didn't disable it but it is untrained at the moment. My phone is a Developers Edition, unlocked and rooted, if that helps any.
I was able to use the Google Now Launcher on 3.2, maybe it is the version of the Launcher? Mine is 1.0.16.1154249 and I did side load it. I haven't
had any trouble with the hotword detection reverting to off as long as I say on 3.3.
Various threads in different forums say different things about this to being a Chrome problem to a Google Search problem to Motorola disabling it
on purpose so the it doesn't interfere with Touchless Control. I guess I'll have to see what happens when Search 3.5 comes out.
At the moment, I don't have a car so the parking feature doesn't have a relevance for me but setting a timer would be kind of useful.
If is is an accident, it would be nice it it were fixed quickly. If it is on purpose, I really wish someone would re evaluate the policy of not allowing a
function on a device that I purchased and would like to make the decision for my self. Just my opinion.
I do hope you find your solution. I came from a Galaxy Nexus and I have been really liking this phone so far as it is as close to the stock that the
GNex was.
SoloDB said:
Did you leave Touchless Control untrained? I didn't disable it but it is untrained at the moment. My phone is a Developers Edition, unlocked and rooted, if that helps any.
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No, I did train Touchless Control. I could try disabling it and then re-enabling it without training it, but I don't see how that would fix anything. I actually like using Touchless Control for when the phone is out of my reach (which is exactly what it's for), but it's kinda slow and doesn't always respond. Ideally, I'd like to use both Touchless Controls and Google's hotword.
My phone is the unlocked T-Mobile version and unrooted. I don't know if that makes a difference.
I was able to use the Google Now Launcher on 3.2, maybe it is the version of the Launcher? Mine is 1.0.16.1154249 and I did side load it.
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My launcher version is 1.0.9.1039417, but I grabbed an APK of the same version you have and it still didn't work with Google Search 3.2.
Anyway, maybe an update to Google Search or Touchless Controls will fix it eventually.
According to Moto, the disabled this as it conflicts with Touchless Controls. I think that's BS, but whatever.
I was having a conversation with my fiancé earlier and Google Now popped up when I said "Ok, you" in conversation. I appreciated Google's sentiment.
Sent from my Moto X
natezire71 said:
According to Moto, the disabled this as it conflicts with Touchless Controls.
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TBH, this is the most likely explanation, since, no matter what version of Search I use, hotword works for a little while and then gets disabled. I even installed a third-party hotword-listening app, and it was disabled immediately. Really hope Moto rethinks this.
micahmo said:
TBH, this is the most likely explanation, since, no matter what version of Search I use, hotword works for a little while and then gets disabled. I even installed a third-party hotword-listening app, and it was disabled immediately. Really hope Moto rethinks this.
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I've raised this issue multiple times over on the Motorola Forums. The Forum Manager there told me that's what Motorola told him. It's unfortunate.
natezire71 said:
I've raised this issue multiple times over on the Motorola Forums. The Forum Manager there told me that's what Motorola told him. It's unfortunate.
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It sounded like he was going to bring it up and submit a report on the issue, using the conversation in the Motorola forums as a basis. It'd be nice if that led to hotword being re-enabled but who knows. Sounds like some software update is on the way, at least for t-mobile; maybe that will help. Wishful thinking...
Maybe 4.4.3 but who knows.
Google Now Hotword
If your phone is rooted, I think I have a solution for you. It's been working on my phone for about a day now. I don't think I have enough posts in to do any links, but if you go to Droid Life and read the article under "Google Makes “Ok Google” System-wide Hotword Detection Official" the is a link in the comments to a utility called UnLeashTheGoogle. Follow the instructions to get the Google Now stuff working. There is an added step however, look for hotword_blacklisted_devices and change the XT1060 to anything else, I used XT1000. I also went as far as disabling the Touchless Control app so that it wouldn't interfere with the Google Now functions.
All of you that use Touchless Control, great, it is a neat feature, but I prefer to use a more Nexus like feel. To each his own.
SoloDB, that would be a great solution if I were rooted. It's almost tempting enough, although I don't feel like wiping my device at this point.
It's sad that even with the rollout of Google Now's always listening feature, it's still disabled on the Moto X. And it's obviously intentional since the device is blacklisted.
micahmo said:
SoloDB, that would be a great solution if I were rooted. It's almost tempting enough, although I don't feel like wiping my device at this point.
It's sad that even with the rollout of Google Now's always listening feature, it's still disabled on the Moto X. And it's obviously intentional since the device is blacklisted.
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You can root using pie via the moto x toolkit without wiping anything. I just did this the other day, but I deleted everything from the blacklist section.
The only issue I'm having now is always listening via Bluetooth in my car (2013 Honda crz hands free link non-nav). It worked flawlessly with my galaxy nexus.
Yes, unfortunately you have to have root. The utility needs root and before I found UnleashTheGoogle I edited the Google Search app pref file to
alter the blacklist which got Ok Google working in the first place, I needed root for that as well being the folder is in the System area. The utility
got everything enabled as well.
I know there are security issues having a rooted phone, but I learned in the Galaxy Nexus days how valuable it is to have a bit more control of
the phone to do the kind of stuff you'd like to do other than what Verizon and, in the case of the Moto X, the manufacturer would "prefer" you to do. The Developers Edition of
Moto X really has made the transition away from the old Galaxy Nexus really easy.
I wish I could root but my work email policies check for that.
Sent from my XT1053 using Tapatalk
txaggies07 said:
I wish I could root but my work email policies check for that.
Sent from my XT1053 using Tapatalk
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Would this help? http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.phantasm.xposed.gfesecuritypatcher

N920a with Uninstaller pro issue

Had the Att variant (N920A) for about a month now when all of a sudden MMS stopped working. If I send a pic message the picture disappears as soon as I hit send and the other party never receives anything from me. If I receive an mms I get the download box that when pressed will never actually download.
I work for Att, so I tested my Sim in another note 5 and everything works fine, so I know it's just gonna be a factory reset to sort the issue out.
Grabbed Uninstaller Pro to wipe all the unneeded apps before I run a full backup with helium so I don't have to bother setting my phone up again.
When I first ran Uninstaller pro I noticed a lot ( like hundreds ) of third-party apps that are highlighted in red that show as frozen. I know for a fact I haven't frozen any apps myself, with Uninstaller pro or any other app for that matter. Also some of the apps have strange names that I don't recognize at all. (I'll list a few on a screen shot, maybe someone can identify something). Uninstaller Pro will not allow me to unfreeze them, I only have the option to Uninstaller them or reset them, but I'm reluctant to mess with apps I don't recognize.
My question is how can these apps be frozen without my doing so, why can't I unfreeze them, why are they there in the first place, and could this maybe be the cause of the mms issue?
For the record I've run through all the usual troubleshooting for mms issues. Apn settings are correct, ad block isnt/has never been installed. MMS is enabled on the messaging app, and I've tried several third party messaging apps to no avail.
Google Drive link to a folder with a few shots of the frozen apps: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B24oiB-uu3o5Ulp1WmxtckhCU1k
This is a very small fraction of the total amount of frozen apps. Each group of apps has the same name for the first part of the filename with about 50 entries that have different endings. Ballpark is probably about 450 total frozen entries.
Thanks in advance for an insight on the matter
*Edit - forgot to add that I'm running completely stock, unrooted 5.1.1
DTR204 said:
*Edit - forgot to add that I'm running completely stock, unrooted 5.1.1
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Looks mostly like bloat. I do not know for sure though. Maybe someone in the AT&T Note 5 section of XDA can be of more help. Take it to a Best Buy and ask them to flash your firmware for you or if you work at an AT&T store maybe have it done there. I am not sure if Smart Switch supports the A variant. Either way, good luck.

Confused about restore / PLay Store vs. Samsung

When doing a factory reset, it asks about restoring apps, etc. I check yes.
Then it seems it's doing it again through Samsung when I login to Samsung during setup.
Are redundant restores happening? Should I should one and not the other?
Any thoughts?
Yes they are basically redundant. I do both to restore as much data as possible and save myself some effort setting everything back up.
I use both also, often feel I'm wasting time but who knows.
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its all about freshness.
so appart from apps, one thing samsung offers that goofle dosent is if u use stock launcher, homescreen layout and wallpaper and aod get restored. same goes for keyboard and related custom data associated to it if you use stock input.
wifi and bluetooth pairings would also be restored too, not to mention alarms also.
So in essence if one believes their next device is going to be another Samsung then perhaps best disable most if not all of the Google backup and restore options? If anything perhaps more added battery life perhaps.
bober10113 said:
its all about freshness.
so appart from apps, one thing samsung offers that goofle dosent is if u use stock launcher, homescreen layout and wallpaper and aod get restored. same goes for keyboard and related custom data associated to it if you use stock input.
wifi and bluetooth pairings would also be restored too, not to mention alarms also.
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Limeybastard said:
So in essence if one believes their next device is going to be another Samsung then perhaps best disable most if not all of the Google backup and restore options? If anything perhaps more added battery life perhaps.
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well knowing google, apps are tagged from the playstore as being installed.( app library vs installed).so backups arent done on/from your device. when restoring they check last device ID and match the associated installed app from your library.
anyways thats what i think. so all in all not sure if disabling it would help or not.
BUT again, its all about the freshness.
which service offers the very last apps you installed?
but one thing to rhink about is: samsung will restore google play and samsung store apps.
where as whit Google, i think would only restore playstore apps(since they just check playstore library associated to device ID).
I was also referring to other things Google also backup. Turning these off.
bober10113 said:
well knowing google, apps are tagged from the playstore as being installed.( app library vs installed).so backups arent done on/from your device. when restoring they check last device ID and match the associated installed app from your library.
anyways thats what i think. so all in all not sure if disabling it would help or not.
BUT again, its all about the freshness.
which service offers the very last apps you installed?
but one thing to rhink about is: samsung will restore google play and samsung store apps.
where as whit Google, i think would only restore playstore apps(since they just check playstore library associated to device ID).
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Limeybastard said:
I was also referring to other things Google also backup. Turning these off.
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oh ok yeah maybe it el help.
Limeybastard said:
I was also referring to other things Google also backup. Turning these off.
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so this just in, samsung backup dosent restore app data where as google does. so this means apps are restored but none of the custom data)settings) is actually restored (like rooted people do with titanium backup).
edit i should mention that i was on android pie doing a backup using smart switch. it asked me where i wanted it and i chose my ext sd card. unpon flashing a new rom and setting it up, i used again smart switch to to restore this time, so i chose the sd card logo at the the top right of the screen and it took a while. so not sure how this backup /restore method differs from the regular samsung cloud ...but it did not restore app data. since it was local i am a bit flabbergasted by these findings. would have expected data since google restores it from the network and does include it....i wont try the other regular method via Samsung cloud since the space allotted is limited to around 10 or 15 gig.in comparison my local backup with smart switch took over 25 gb(got 400+ apps) so thats why im not expecting any better viaa regular cloud sync... but we never know. maybe someone with a smaller volume of content can offer some results.
oh and on the flip side, samsung restores more apps than googles does. i suspect it dosnt check for the playstore app signature and just blindly backups all user apps.. just a darn shame about the data part...(not user settings data like passwords and for wifi and bluetooth pairing but acctual applicaion data)
just wanted to share my findings with you guys
google play back will restore all apps downloaded from the play store but it will not restore any app downloaded from other sources like galaxy apps or aptoide
samsung backup and restores all the apps that are installed on your devices regardless of where it came from
so usually i will let google restore my apps so that i will get the latest apps from the store then i will restore from samsung cloud to get the extra apps i installed from other sources plus my apps folders
BuHaneenHHHH said:
just wanted to share my findings with you guys
google play back will restore all apps downloaded from the play store but it will not restore any app downloaded from other sources like galaxy apps or aptoide
samsung backup and restores all the apps that are installed on your devices regardless of where it came from
so usually i will let google restore my apps so that i will get the latest apps from the store then i will restore from samsung cloud to get the extra apps i installed from other sources plus my apps folders
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wow this is news to me !

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