with the new exynos and mtk octa core in the market , i was wandering if its possible for our phone to change cpu ? would a octa core be compatible ?
That is not PC dude. Anyway it would be great if possible
I don't think so. The motherboard may be not compitable with new cpu
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kessaras said:
with the new exynos and mtk octa core in the market , i was wandering if its possible for our phone to change cpu ? would a octa core be compatible ?
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Ahh no sorry, there are two challenges that you would have too overcome, the first being the hardware aspect. The tegra 3 SoC isn't just a CPU but APU that has both a CPU and GPU on the same chip. This chip is physically soldered to the motherboard. While its not inconceivable that a very skilled person might be able to remove the chip and replace it with an identical chip (in theory).
You cant replace the tegra chip with another for both hardware and software incompatibilites, our phones whole motherboard is designed around the tegra3 and its very intricate details of operation. But let's pretend the hardware will be compatible and a exynos octa core is what we will use, the next problem is software. The kernel is the core of an operating system, on the arm platform the Linux kernel is different to that of x86 based devices, arm devices need extremely specific kernel support, you would in essence have to rewrite or re engineer an entire devices specific hardware support in the kernel, for scale the difference between mainline 3.1 and the 3.1 android kernel in our device is about a million lines of code, I'd guess lge's changes would be around 50,000 lines of code for our device.
But I somehow don't think its worth it
kessaras said:
with the new exynos and mtk octa core in the market , i was wandering if its possible for our phone to change cpu ? would a octa core be compatible ?
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Why? You would lose access to THD games
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right the whole kernel must change. too much for me
Related
http://hackaday.com/2011/09/06/smartphone-hacking-without-risk-plus-broken-phones-needed/
Scrolled into this article today. Thought some here might find some benefit to this community.
this has been covered on the front page a couple of times already, and it's only for phones with cortex A8 processors. the droid 3 users a TI omap processor so it wont wont
The D3 has a TI OMAP4 SoC which includes a dual core ARM Cortex A9 processor.
Think of these SoCs (OMAP, Tegra, Snapdraggon, etc) as an entire computer (motherboard, CPU, graphics card, etc) on a single chip.
But yeah, this guy is working with the A8, while the D3 and all current generation phones use A9 based CPUs. Maybe it will apply though, idk.
sorry, what i should have said was it requires a samsung hummingbird
this is a hardware mod, and the devs posted a list of all the phones its applicable to here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236273
So,
My friend (Simon), recently acquired a Dell Precision Series computer/micro server tower.
Inside, it has 2 Intel® Xeon® X5472 quad-core processors running at 3.00ghz
My other friend (Josh) said to Simon, in his apparent jealousy, that even though Simon essentially has 8 cores, they are %&$# because they are VIRTUAL cores and not physical cores.
I scouted the Intel website and found this model processor and clearly states that within each processor, "Number of cores: 4. Number of threads: 4"
I am not familiar with threads but I am aware that hyper-threading is essentially creating virtual cores.
So the question is:
Is he using 8 virtual cores or merely 8 physical cores
If you can answer this, could you please tell me your reasoning if you have one?
Thanks =)
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8 physical cores or merely 8 virtual cores*****
This is a thread
assuming he is running windows 7....
click start, right there above where you clicked... there is a search box... type "dxdiag" and hit enter.
this will bring up a window listing all your hardware in detail.
i have an i5, dual core (which is actually a quad core with 4 logical processors) so under my "processor" description, it reads "M540 @ 2.53 Ghz (4 CPUs) ~2.5 Ghz."
running this program will tell you exactly what hardware he has. sounds like a dual quad core to me, though.
hope that helps.
you can also, type "msconfig" in that same window... then click the "boot" tab, then "advanced options" and on the top right you will see a window listing how many processor you have available to you.
hope that helps
His says:
Intel(R ) Xeon( R)
CPU X5472 @ 3. 00GHz (8 CPU's), ~3GHz
8 physical cores or only virtual?
Sorry =\
And thanks for the responses...
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jimbo.levy said:
His says:
Intel(R ) Xeon( R)
CPU X5472 @ 3. 00GHz (8 CPU's), ~3GHz
8 physical cores or only virtual?
Sorry =\
And thanks for the responses...
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I'm pretty sure that's a 4 physical core processor.
sure is. that is a dual processor, quad core processor set up, my friend.
http://ark.intel.com/products/34447/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5472-(12M-Cache-3_00-GHz-1600-MHz-FSB)
Says here its a quad core
Each Xeon has 4 physical cores inside. A dual processor setup in this case means 8 actual cores. A better question will be whether your friend has applications that can make use of said number of cores.
The most number of cores is 6 , which is the Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition Q----- (something) , in which it has 6 cores 12 threads (as said by the Intel site)
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http://ark.intel.com/products/34447/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5472-(12M-Cache-3_00-GHz-1600-MHz-FSB)
Four physical cores per processor. No Hyperthreading.
Two processors..
4x2=8
Thanks everyone =D
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is there possibility of changing qualcomm chipset to MSM7227A or MSM7227 800Mhz for our x8???????
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is there possibility of changing qualcomm chipset to MSM7227A or MSM7227 800Mhz for our x8???????
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Do you really think it is possible ??
I mean seriously..
lol...
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No, you can't
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try, but i'm not sure............tell us the results if you did it
i think we can
because in the 800MHz chipset the only difference is cpu frequency thats it
woowwww
"Incredible"
Totally impossible for the MSM7227A.. the MSM7227 at 800MHz should work though, the only difference from ours is that it is stable at 800MHz.
The hard part is to get one and replace it without damaging the phone
I'm sure it's also possible to increase the RAM with a identical chip but with more space and reprogram the phone to address it properly.
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Totally impossible for the MSM7227A.. the MSM7227 at 800MHz should work though, the only difference from ours is that it is stable at 800MHz.
The hard part is to get one and replace it without damaging the phone
I'm sure it's also possible to increase the RAM with a identical chip but with more space and reprogram the phone to address it properly.
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The MSM7227 at 800mhz is actually MSM7227T. The recommended frequency for our chipset is 600Mhz. Lol it's not possible to change the chipset for to either of them, the skill needed to do that would kill you.
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Lol it's not possible to change the chipset for to either of them, the skill needed to do that would kill you.
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You know what? You are right, i have been seeing in the news that thousands of people die every week because they learned how to rework BGA chips.. The knowledge needed is so insane that the brain explodes.
What the hell are you talking about dude? Reworking/ flowing / balling is simple when you have the right equipment.. The hard part is its price. Or were you thinking of doing it with a soldering iron?
About the chipsets, they are the same thing.. the turbo version is stable at 800MHz, the normal is not.. It's the same as changing your computer cpu from a 2.5GHz to a 2.7Ghz.. the pins are the same, everything is the same, the 2.7 just draws more power.
I am not 100% sure it would work because there are lots of variables (software and power wise), but at least 90%
I'm not screaming IMPOSSIBLE or mocking the dude like everyone else because it can actually work.. it's just very impractical, it would be cheaper buying a new phone.
I already have hot air soldering station and other tools but how can I get a chipset moreover where can I get the datasheet of the chipset I searched alot but havnt found any
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Hello everyone
I've been reading for a few days in this forum about the Motorola Razr i
I certainly found interesting articles but strangely I have found that very few refer to the Intel chip
just as I have been looking about the chip of "Motorola Razr i" and found a curious comment
"Medfield z2460 was meant to test the waters and is the reason why it was launched in india and not the US. Just a precursor to the medfield z2580. The z2580 and Clovertrail will be offered in dual core variants (not to mention quad core for clover trail) and will ditch the imagination technologies sgx 540 for an sgx 544 mp2 which runs 34 [email protected] mhz.
The sgx 540 gets 6.4 gfllops @400mhz . The adreno 225 runs at 24.5 [email protected] 400mhz and the tegra 3 (t30l or t33) gpu runs 13 [email protected] mhz. So being that 6.4gflops vs 24.5gflops is relative to 202% what do you think happens with 34 gflops vs 24.5 gflops? Plus the s4 is 103 mflops single threaded while medfield z2460 is 90 mflops single threaded on the cpu side. That's pretty close. Dual core comparison with sgx544 might actually be superior and at a higher process node (32nm vs 28nm), and that's with an in order instruction set vs ARM's out of order. I don't see how you get "x86 Atom has very slim chances when taking on Qualcomm’s ARM processors or any other new generation ARM mobile CPU from Samsung or Nvidia" with that info. Your talking a gpu and a core.
Come spring they go out of order, not to mention ditching 5 year old architecture for silvermont, 22nm process and inclusion of intel hd gpu with 40 to 80 gflops (depending on eu count) and you think there will be no competition? Even the apq8064 adreno 320 only has approx 40-45 gflops but that doesn't include the modem so higher tdp .
Maybe the exynos 5250 with mali [email protected] 68 gflops will be a threat given release schedule but still, nearly matching single threaded performance with the best chip on the market (and with 5 year old architecture), and beating every ARM chip to date in java script for a first try/test the waters offering? Swap a gpu and add a core and its game on. And adding new architecture, 22nm, out of order instruction and hd graphics and ARM might have a problem until 64 bit ARM v8."
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My question is How true is this?
not publish the link to the site because I do not know if this is right in this forum.
I apologize for possible flaws in my English.
I'm having a super-smooth experience, so yeah, the hyper-threaded single-core chip is doing a very fine job compared to the ARM competitors.
But is it true that Intel will go out-of-order for their next architecture? Because the whole point behind Atom processors was to take advantage of Intel's advanced lithography and well tought architecture, then simplify it to make it consume much less energy (and go from out-of-order to in-order was one of those simplifications).
Well I always thought Intel smartphone chips were more powerful CPU wise but gpu wise its behind.
And christ you can quote all the figures you like but it doesn't mean it'll actually reach that. Its what the individual parts can achieve.
Put them into a phone and reduce the power consumption to an acceptable level = a lot less than quoted figures
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Sorry for this question, but I'm very confuse about gpu of I9070,some people said "s advance have single gpu" but on website official novathor u8500 said "multi core gpu process graphics 2d and 3d" So s advance have single or dual gpu ? Thanks http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/technologies/novethor-u8500/
S Advance has a single core Mali 400 MP GPU. And as far as I know, the Galaxy S2 also has a Mali 400 MP GPU - but its dual core (instead of just one core). If you read about Mali-400 MP in ARM's website (link), this is what you'll see:
Scalable from 1 to 4 cores the Mali-400 MP enables a wide range of different use cases, from mobile user interfaces up to smartphones, tablets and DTVs, to be addressed with a single IP. One single driver stack for all multi-core configurations simplifies application porting, system integration and maintenance. Multicore scheduling and performance scaling is fully handled within the graphics system, with no special considerations required from the application developer
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So this shows that different phones can use the same GPU but with different number of cores.
PS: Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Sami Kabir said:
S Advance has a single core Mali 400 MP GPU. And as far as I know, the Galaxy S2 also has a Mali 400 MP GPU - but its dual core (instead of just one core). If you read about Mali-400 MP in ARM's website (link), this is what you'll see:
So this shows that different phones can use the same GPU but with different number of cores.
PS: Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks for answer. It's very stranger because my galaxy S advance runs n.o.v.a 3 smooth and fast (mali400), and I have one tablet based allwinner A13 (mali 400), sometimes I got hard lags ( yes I always optimize my mb ram).