For those of you that are using the Droid 3 on AT&T, how can I enable HSPA+ on my phone? I am using the XT883 radio with Hashcode's CM9. When scanning for networks, I only see AT&T 2G, AT&T 3G and T-Mobile 2G. When I use mobile data, the notification bar reads 3G. I am sure that the Droid 3 has the 850/1900 MHz bands required for AT&T's HSPA+. Is my phone showing 3G when I am actually getting HSPA+? If not, do I need to call AT&T and ask for HSPA+? I am buying a data plan for a flip phone, and using that SIM on my Droid 3, so they may have disabled it.
ChocolateShein said:
For those of you that are using the Droid 3 on AT&T, how can I enable HSPA+ on my phone? I am using the XT883 radio with Hashcode's CM9. When scanning for networks, I only see AT&T 2G, AT&T 3G and T-Mobile 2G. When I use mobile data, the notification bar reads 3G. I am sure that the Droid 3 has the 850/1900 MHz bands required for AT&T's HSPA+. Is my phone showing 3G when I am actually getting HSPA+? If not, do I need to call AT&T and ask for HSPA+? I am buying a data plan for a flip phone, and using that SIM on my Droid 3, so they may have disabled it.
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First off what are your download and uploads speeds on AT&T 3G? The D3 can support HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s and HSDPA 14.4 Mbit/s. Download the speedtest app and confirm your speeds before calling AT&T regarding a non support device on their network.
I am getting 2413 Kbits/s downlink and 1589 Kbits/s uplink.
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Here is a screenshot of my results.
Have you confirmed that HSPA+ speeds are indeed active in your area?
There is nothing that you should have to do other than enter the APN settings. The same wap.Cingular APN is used for EDGE, UMTS, HSPA, etc...
I have achieved speeds up to about 8000 or so on the Droid 3 with XT883 radio, only in major areas with good service. Chances are your area or at least the tower you are connecting to does not have HSDPA active.
You are indeed getting HSPA speeds. 3G (UMTS) maxes at 384kbps. 3G/H/H+ reading in task bar is really a cosmetic thing, don't pay much attention to it. It is the real speeds you actually get (as you measured) that matter. Try other servers too, NY often is busy.
I talked to a T-Mobile employee today who said he gets 4G at home and that it had already been deployed in our area. He went on to say that non-Tmo devices wouldn't be capable of picking up 4G. The dev edition has a 4G radio so it would make sense that it should pick up T-Mobile's 4G network, right?
The Dev edition supports AWS LTE so yes, it should pick it up.
I just got the Moto X last week and I never see 4G LTE. I only see 4G.
I live in NYC, we should have LTE here??
Is your sim 4g enable , is your phone tarif a 4g one
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Were you on AT&T before? I know NYC is notorious for poor reception on AT&T
That's not true. I get LTE all over NYC and the five boroughs when I'm there
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virtuewill said:
I just got the Moto X last week and I never see 4G LTE. I only see 4G.
I live in NYC, we should have LTE here??
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What is the difference? 4g is 4g lte. Same thing. LTE is just an acronym for long term evolution.
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What is the difference? 4g is 4g lte. Same thing. LTE is just an acronym for long term evolution.
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While technically 3G according to some, ATT and T-Mobile in the USA refer to their HSPA+ networks as 4G due to their theoretic max speed (T-Mobile's is 42mbps in many areas) being faster than their UMTS/HSPA and other 3G network technologies.
Where 4G LTE means 4G using LTE.
So for ATT/T-Mobile... saying 4G isn't the same as saying 4G LTE.
I'm not sure if carriers outside of the USA do the same.
Since Verizon has EVDO Rev A and B (3G), and LTE (4G), when it comes to Verizon saying 4G is the same as saying 4G LTE.
But if you want to get technical, even the LTE in use today, didn't meet the original ITU definition of 4G anyway, but that is another story.
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virtuewill said:
I just got the Moto X last week and I never see 4G LTE. I only see 4G.
I live in NYC, we should have LTE here??
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It depends.
One scenario I've seen ATT users complain of not getting LTE in areas where ATT has LTE coverage is when they purchased a Developer Edition X, and while switching to it, gave ATT the IMEI for the X. Since the IMEI doesn't match their DB, ATT often adds it as a 3G or HSPA+ device only, and it wont get LTE speeds. One way around this is to have an LTE device capable of using a nano on your account first, and then just moving the SIM to the X when you receive it. (we did that with my sister in law's HTC to X swap. We went to the ATT store and got her a Nano sim using an adapter for her HTC, then when the X arrived, we just moved the SIM and her X got LTE).
If you are trying to use a Verizon X (which is sim unlocked), it doesn't support the frequencies used by ATT for LTE, so it wont get better than HSPA+.
Of course if your X is an ATT Branded device (XT1058 with the ATT logo on the back, and all the bloat), and have a newer, LTE compatible, SIM, you should get LTE where ever ATT has their LTE service deployed, including NYC.
One thing I don't know is.. if the LTE network is "over capacity" in that area, might the phone fall back to HSPA+ instead?
KidJoe said:
While technically 3G according to some, ATT and T-Mobile in the USA refer to their HSPA+ networks as 4G due to their theoretic max speed (T-Mobile's is 42mbps in many areas) being faster than their UMTS/HSPA and other 3G network technologies.
Where 4G LTE means 4G using LTE.
So for ATT/T-Mobile... saying 4G isn't the same as saying 4G LTE.
I'm not sure if carriers outside of the USA do the same.
Since Verizon has EVDO Rev A and B (3G), and LTE (4G), when it comes to Verizon saying 4G is the same as saying 4G LTE.
But if you want to get technical, even the LTE in use today, didn't meet the original ITU definition of 4G anyway, but that is another story.
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It depends.
One scenario I've seen ATT users complain of not getting LTE in areas where ATT has LTE coverage is when they purchased a Developer Edition X, and while switching to it, gave ATT the IMEI for the X. Since the IMEI doesn't match their DB, ATT often adds it as a 3G or HSPA+ device only, and it wont get LTE speeds. One way around this is to have an LTE device capable of using a nano on your account first, and then just moving the SIM to the X when you receive it. (we did that with my sister in law's HTC to X swap. We went to the ATT store and got her a Nano sim using an adapter for her HTC, then when the X arrived, we just moved the SIM and her X got LTE).
If you are trying to use a Verizon X (which is sim unlocked), it doesn't support the frequencies used by ATT for LTE, so it wont get better than HSPA+.
Of course if your X is an ATT Branded device (XT1058 with the ATT logo on the back, and all the bloat), and have a newer, LTE compatible, SIM, you should get LTE where ever ATT has their LTE service deployed, including NYC.
One thing I don't know is.. if the LTE network is "over capacity" in that area, might the phone fall back to HSPA+ instead?
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Thanks man. That is a good point about the IMEI. I'll check that later. It asked me to check during activation but I didn't want to.
I called ATT yesterday and they said something wrong with provisioning. They saw I was only connected to the 3g signal. They fixed the provisioning but nothing changed. Either it's the IMEI or I'll just let the store figure it out
virtuewill said:
Thanks man. That is a good point about the IMEI. I'll check that later. It asked me to check during activation but I didn't want to.
I called ATT yesterday and they said something wrong with provisioning. They saw I was only connected to the 3g signal. They fixed the provisioning but nothing changed. Either it's the IMEI or I'll just let the store figure it out
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Is your device an ATT branded X? or from other carrier or dev edition? If its ATT branded, they should be able to fix it.
If its from other carrier or its the Dev Edition, they might spin their wheels. If you run into that, try having them switch you to another ATT phone that is LTE, then move the sim to your X (without telling them you are switching or updating the IMEI on your account), OR try working with their phone support, telling them you are switching devices, and giving them the IMEI for an ATT LTE compatible phone instead of the one from your X.
There was discussion in another thread, but I don't remember which, where others with GSM Dev X trying to get them working on ATT ran into this problem, got a run around, couldn't get it fixed, and were stuck on HSPA+. The using the other LTE phone trick was used successfully. In addition, someone, who apparently works for ATT, was in that thread and via PM conversations (to get account info, etc) was able to fix this for Dev X users and get them working LTE on ATT.
Is it possible to use an AT&T Moto X on Verizon? If so how would I do so?
Don't think so...they are different types of cellular service. At&t is GSM and Verizon is CDMA. You can use it on T-Mobile!
slight possibility.
if the Moto X supports the same LTE bands that Verizon uses it is theoretically possible but only where Verizon has LTE.
I know I can techically roam on Verizon where they operate Band 4 if T-Mobile had agreements in my area.
Ahh
I see, I'll mess around in settings and see what I can do.
You should be able to get LTE coverage of the bands in your area line up right. Voice won't work until Vzw enable LTE Voice calling.
On T-Mobile USA, I seem to be limited to HSPA, not LTE. Should I turn off LTE Cat 6? I should be getting LTE where I am