Can the Moto X bootloader be unlocked? I ask this because from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), the bootloader must be unlocked in order to flash custom ROMs. Also, I'm aware that there's a Developer Edition of the Moto X that has an unlocked bootloader. This question is for the standard Moto X, not the Developer Edition. Thanks!
- Shadowz1218
Shadowz1218 said:
Can the Moto X bootloader be unlocked? I ask this because from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), the bootloader must be unlocked in order to flash custom ROMs. Also, I'm aware that there's a Developer Edition of the Moto X that has an unlocked bootloader. This question is for the standard Moto X, not the Developer Edition. Thanks!
- Shadowz1218
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AFAIK, there are some models can not be bootloader unlocked, the AT&T, Verizon, Nextel Mexico. Others are bootloader unlockable.
yghrv said:
AFAIK, there are some models can not be bootloader unlocked, the AT&T, Verizon, Nextel Mexico. Others are bootloader unlockable.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Well, in order to flash a ROM, you'll need to have a recovery capable of doing so. In order to flash a recovery, you'll need an unlocked bootloader. Ergo...
The only reason bootloaders get unlocked is so that custom recoveries can be installed. Not just to flash, but also for backing up. Stock recovery doesn't really do anything but factory reset.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Well, in order to flash a ROM, you'll need to have a recovery capable of doing so. In order to flash a recovery, you'll need an unlocked bootloader. Ergo...
The only reason bootloaders get unlocked is so that custom recoveries can be installed. Not just to flash, but also for backing up. Stock recovery doesn't really do anything but factory reset.
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You can root and flash roms without an unlocked bootloader. Look at the Development thread, there are root/recovery options for 4.2.2 and 4.4. There isn't much development happening. If anything we're probably going to get stock based roms for the most part.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Out of curiosity, why is the ability to flash a custom ROM a must-have? I felt that way at first, but many Moto X users (including myself) now believe that a combination of root, Xposed and GravityBox is enough.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Then get a VZW developer edition.
chaoslimits said:
You can root and flash roms without an unlocked bootloader. Look at the Development thread, there are root/recovery options for 4.2.2 and 4.4. There isn't much development happening. If anything we're probably going to get stock based roms for the most part.
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Well I know root is certainly possible, but how do you flash a rom on the Moto X without using a recovery such as CWM or TWRP?
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Well I know root is certainly possible, but how do you flash a rom on the Moto X without using a recovery such as CWM or TWRP?
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safestrap.
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safestrap.
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There's no safestrap for 4.4 yet, correct?
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You can try root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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safestrap.
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But isn't safestrap that weird hack that leaves the original system alone and just sticks another install on the device? I wanted to get a vzw S4 until I learned I'd be stuck with the original bloated OS installed along the one I want (if I'm understanding it correctly)
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But isn't safestrap that weird hack that leaves the original system alone and just sticks another install on the device? I wanted to get a vzw S4 until I learned I'd be stuck with the original bloated OS installed along the one I want (if I'm understanding it correctly)
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safestrap.
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If you can flash a custom ROM with said "safestrap," what's the point of having an unlocked bootloader? What can you do with an unlocked bootloader that you can't do without one?
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If you can flash a custom ROM with said "safestrap," what's the point of having an unlocked bootloader? What can you do with an unlocked bootloader that you can't do without one?
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You can flash other versions on your phone. I unlocked my bootloader and flashed the Verizon version, just because. I came from a Latin American version of the phone.
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You can flash other versions on your phone. I unlocked my bootloader and flashed the Verizon version, just because. I came from a Latin American version of the phone.
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I don't quite understand what you mean by "flashing other versions on your phone." My question is what's the advantage of having an unlocked bootloader. Also, are there any disadvantages of flashing a custom ROM with a safestrap?
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I don't quite understand what you mean by "flashing other versions on your phone." My question is what's the advantage of having an unlocked bootloader. Also, are there any disadvantages of flashing a custom ROM with a safestrap?
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Normally, it's to allow you to flash a custom recovery, so that you can flash the plethora of zips you can find. The disadvantage with safestrap is what I said above: It's a hack that leaves the original OS on the phone, just sitting there taking up space. You know how the S4's only came with 9 GBs free on the 16 GBs? Well, if I bought a verizon one, I'd have to safestrap CM or whatever on to the phone, so I'd be left with the original TW hog and then lose more space to CM. I mean, if you can deal with that then you're golden. But it is still a disadvantage. And I wouldn't do it (which is why I ended up not buying the S4, even though I really wanted it).
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Normally, it's to allow you to flash a custom recovery, so that you can flash the plethora of zips you can find. The disadvantage with safestrap is what I said above: It's a hack that leaves the original OS on the phone, just sitting there taking up space. You know how the S4's only came with 9 GBs free on the 16 GBs? Well, if I bought a verizon one, I'd have to safestrap CM or whatever on to the phone, so I'd be left with the original TW hog and then lose more space to CM. I mean, if you can deal with that then you're golden. But it is still a disadvantage. And I wouldn't do it (which is why I ended up not buying the S4, even though I really wanted it).
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So if I want to replace the original OS with another ROM I'd have no choice but to unlock the bootloader and use a custom recovery? Also, is it possible that an OTA update could break the safestrap, or stop it from working anymore?
Ok, rather than this unnecessary back and forth, if you have Verizon and "flashing custom ROMS is a must for me" like you say then just get the Verizon Developer Edition which has an unlocked bootloader and be done with it.
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Ok, rather than this unnecessary back and forth, if you have Verizon and "flashing custom ROMS is a must for me" like you say then just get the Verizon Developer Edition which has an unlocked bootloader and be done with it.
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I was simply trying to understand if there's any practical advantage of having an unlocked bootloader vs. using other methods such as a safestrap. If I can get a custom Moto X at a discounted price on a 2-year contract, I'd much rather go that route instead of paying the retail price for a Developer Edition.
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I have the chance to get a new AT&T Moto X for a great price. I'm on T-Mobile, though, and use their WiFi calling. Is it possible to root and install a T-Mobile ROM onto the AT&T Moto X?
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Yes, I have the 1058 and flashed t mobile roms
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Wifi calling is not supported on the Moto x.
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Yes, I have the 1058 and flashed t mobile roms
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Using it on T-Mobile you get 4g?
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Using it on T-Mobile you get 4g?
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Yes, actually 4 g LTE, tested it and download speed ran at 50mbs/sec
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Yes, I have the 1058 and flashed t mobile roms
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Can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot commands without having to unlock the bootloader?
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Can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot commands without having to unlock the bootloader?
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No, the bootloader must be unlocked to do that.
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No, the bootloader must be unlocked to do that.
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But afaik, the ATT XT1058's bootloader cannot be unlocked. So how did @flashallthetime install the TMO ROM on his ATT XT1058 without unlocking the bootloader?
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But afaik, the ATT XT1058's bootloader cannot be unlocked. So how did @flashallthetime install the TMO ROM on his ATT XT1058 without unlocking the bootloader?
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Not sure. He is in Canada so I assume he has a Rogers XT1058(same hardware as the AT&T phone) and unlocked his bootloader.
I believe there are flashable zips that can be used with a rooted phone, however the process isn't as simple as flashing the full image with rsdlite.
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But afaik, the ATT XT1058's bootloader cannot be unlocked. So how did @flashallthetime install the TMO ROM on his ATT XT1058 without unlocking the bootloader?
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Let's clarify things,
1) my bootloader is unlocked because I have a Rogers variant
2) flashing touched Roms through twrp recovery only, yes flashing flashable 1053 roms
3) I have never attempted to rsdlite any firmware other than rogers firmware
Is this clear enough, I do not want anyone to brick there phone, had 3 soft bricks to this point myself, its a frigging pain in the butt and yes they all involved flashing Roms. The moto is a great phone but its also very finicky
My suggestion is wait for your carriers firmware to be available and rsdlite it.
Yesterday I again had a soft brick just from restoring a nandroid, so I rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, I had it downloaded already. I then accepted the new camera ota and everything went fine until I tried to flash twrp recovery, it wouldn't flash, so I tried to rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, no go. It seems that I can't downgrade from an ota even with a unlocked boot loader
Edit: patience, obviously we are all going to receive kitkat soon enough and I believe AT&T is next up, US carriers first and then all other carriers.
Trust me I want kitkat too but not willing to jump through and dig a frigging hole I can't get out of
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Let's clarify things,
1) my bootloader is unlocked because I have a Rogers variant
2) flashing touched Roms through twrp recovery only, yes flashing flashable 1053 roms
3) I have never attempted to rsdlite any firmware other than rogers firmware
Is this clear enough, I do not want anyone to brick there phone, had 3 soft bricks to this point myself, its a frigging pain in the butt and yes they all involved flashing Roms. The moto is a great phone but its also very finicky
My suggestion is wait for your carriers firmware to be available and rsdlite it.
Yesterday I again had a soft brick just from restoring a nandroid, so I rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, I had it downloaded already. I then accepted the new camera ota and everything went fine until I tried to flash twrp recovery, it wouldn't flash, so I tried to rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, no go. It seems that I can't downgrade from an ota even with a unlocked boot loader
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So my question is again, can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot even though the bootloader cannot be unlocked on the ATT XT1058?
Thanks
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So my question is again, can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot even though the bootloader cannot be unlocked on the ATT XT1058?
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No
No
No
Wait, tomorrow you'll get your bar of chocolate
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I have a moto x on at&t in the US and I want to use it on tmobile. You guys have any recommendations on how to do this?
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I have a moto x on at&t in the US and I want to use it on tmobile. You guys have any recommendations on how to do this?
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Use rsdlite, should work fine but I have flashed both and getting slightly better battery life with the at&t version, also it seems faster, no lock screen lag where on the T-Mobile version I had a lag unlocking my device. The T-Mobile version has no bloatware
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Use rsdlite, should work fine but I have flashed both and getting slightly better battery life with the at&t version, also it seems faster, no lock screen lag where on the T-Mobile version I had a lag unlocking my device. The T-Mobile version has no bloatware
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I thought you could't flash a different ROM on a locked bootloader phone.
So how can he flash the T-Mobile ROM on an AT&T phone if he cannot unlock the bootloader??
I don't think we are all talking about the same thing. What is rsd lite? A Rom? I'd like to keep stock android so I can get the ota updates. I just need to sim unlock
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I don't think we are all talking about the same thing. What is rsd lite? A Rom? I'd like to keep stock android so I can get the ota updates. I just need to sim unlock
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That's a different story then. You need to request the sim unlock code from at&t and hope they give it to you. Tell them you're travelling and u need to use it abroad
There might also be 3rd party services on ebay that would offer sim unlocking ur phone for a fee, but i'm not sure if it's available for the Moto X.
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That's a different story then. You need to request the sim unlock code from at&t and hope they give it to you. Tell them you're travelling and u need to use it abroad
There might also be 3rd party services on ebay that would offer sim unlocking ur phone for a fee, but i'm not sure if it's available for the Moto X.
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Haha okay sounds good. Thanks for the help. Good luck to whatever else you guys were talking about
I really HATE to have to post this and I will do so quite reluctantly....
I am certainly NOT a noob when it comes to Android, rooting, etc. But, the X is my first Moto android phone. I recently purchased mine via CTO with the AT&T Kitkat leak already installed. The person I bought it from claims there is NO WAY to gain root. He said he installed the leak via stock recovery.
The leak I'm running is 140.44.3.ghost_att.ATT.en.US.
Can anyone who's kind enough and well versed in Moto devices explain to me HOW I can how I can gain root on this leak and/or get Safestrap TWRP installed and if not, will I still be able to receive OTA updates being that the bootloader is locked and the stock recovery is intact? I just don't understand enough about Moto devices. I've searched and searched and can't really find the answers myself otherwise I wouldn't post here on XDA like the moron that I am.
I have a hard time accepting that I can't gain root despite not being able to unlock the bootloader. I realize that certain versions are only compatible with Safestrap (I hope I'm understanding that correctly) but, again I don't understand enough of how Moto's work. I've always had Samsung's or HTC's which are SUPER easy to use via ADB, etc.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I really HATE to have to post this and I will do so quite reluctantly....
I am certainly NOT a noob when it comes to Android, rooting, etc. But, the X is my first Moto android phone. I recently purchased mine via CTO with the AT&T Kitkat leak already installed. The person I bought it from claims there is NO WAY to gain root. He said he installed the leak via stock recovery.
The leak I'm running is 140.44.3.ghost_att.ATT.en.US.
Can anyone who's kind enough and well versed in Moto devices explain to me HOW I can how I can gain root on this leak and/or get Safestrap TWRP installed and if not, will I still be able to receive OTA updates being that the bootloader is locked and the stock recovery is intact? I just don't understand enough about Moto devices. I've searched and searched and can't really find the answers myself otherwise I wouldn't post here on XDA like the moron that I am.
I have a hard time accepting that I can't gain root despite not being able to unlock the bootloader. I realize that certain versions are only compatible with Safestrap (I hope I'm understanding that correctly) but, again I don't understand enough of how Moto's work. I've always had Samsung's or HTC's which are SUPER easy to use via ADB, etc.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Have you read this thread? It should give you a headstart if you haven't.
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Have you read this thread? It should give you a headstart if you haven't.
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Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
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Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
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You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
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You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
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If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
t3chn0s1s said:
Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
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To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
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If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
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I wasn't certain because it was flashed over. I'm running on a Verizon ROM and frankly I wouldn't have known it was a Latin America version if I got it like that. So... Oh well. I suppose the probability that it is an AT&T version is much higher. In that case, OP's SOL for a bootloader unlock. Lol
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If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
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I'm just reading your post now but, this is exactly what I did... I just used RDS Lite to return to stock 4.2.2 and then OTA'd to 4.4 and now I'm gonna use jcase's exploit to gain root. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE INFO GUYS!
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If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
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You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
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Thanks Ragna. I appreciate the info and being the "welcome wagon", LOL. Yeah - I'm obviously on the AT&T version (not a Dev Edition) so my BL is unlockable which - is complete bulls**t. I don't get why Moto has to pull this crap or why AT&T gives a rats ass what we do with our phones.
I was able to root my Verizon on 4.4 Just take your time and read thoroughly.
It's sort of a rough set of instructions not for the faint of heart.
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I was able to root my Verizon on 4.4 Just take your time and read thoroughly.
It's sort of a rough set of instructions not for the faint of heart.
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Yea... So I've read. Telnet is SO old school... Was kinda surprised to see that as part of the process. I haven't yet taken the plunge but will probably eventually go for it. Just a little confused since I'm already on stock 4.4 so I'm not sure if I should start at step 1 or what. Oh well... I'll figure it out. Thanks for the suggestions.
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i need to know if i can flash a Verizon firmware on a moto x without unlocking the bootloader
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Yes. Signed firmware will flash but it must be the firmware designed for your phone
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Yes. Signed firmware will flash but it must be the firmware designed for your phone
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what do u mean with firmware designed for ur phone?
it can't be custom if has to be the stock OTA firmware packages so either 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 for your Verizon phone
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it can't be custom if has to be the stock OTA firmware packages so either 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 for your Verizon phone
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so mine it s unlocked t-mobile and i want to flash the 4.4 verizon firmware for the italian language
that what i mean
danger2u said:
so mine it s unlocked t-mobile and i want to flash the 4.4 verizon firmware for the italian language
that what i mean
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Ok im not sure why you would want to do that.
your phone is only unlocked for GSM carrier's
Sprint/Verizon are CDMA carriers so you will never be able to take your unlocked moto X over to them.
so i guess the question i need to ask is why are you wanted to flash the verizon firmware on your T-Mobile Moto X
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Ok im not sure why you would want to do that.
your phone is only unlocked for GSM carrier's
Sprint/Verizon are CDMA carriers so you will never be able to take your unlocked moto X over to them.
so i guess the question i need to ask is why are you wanted to flash the verizon firmware on your T-Mobile Moto X
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because Verizon have italian language on system.T mobile doesn t have.
i used Verizon with my first moto x and i flashed over T mobile firmware but i dont remember if i unlocked the bootloader or not
it is a signed firmware so you should be able to flash it without unlocking the bootloader.
i did some research and weird that only verizon offers all the Languages. have you tried flashing a rom like the one below it is made for verizon and all gsm it might have everything you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521509
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it is a signed firmware so you should be able to flash it without unlocking the bootloader.
i did some research and weird that only verizon offers all the Languages. have you tried flashing a rom like the one below it is made for verizon and all gsm it might have everything you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521509
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i will try eclipse too but with that i must unlock the bootloader and i don t want
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i will try eclipse too but with that i must unlock the bootloader and i don t want
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safestrap
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
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safestrap
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
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thanks
this really help me
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I'm on the Verizon network and I want to purchase the Motorola Moto X and put cyanogenmod on it. I read that I have to have the developer edition of the phone in order to do this. I was thinking of purchasing it from this ebay vendor...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-XT...55120?pt=Cell_Phones&var=&hash=item5d507be410
This is my first time purchasing a phone on ebay so I wanted to make sure I am getting the correct phone. I guess my question(s) would be...
Can I install cyanogenmod on this phone? Is this the developer edition phone?
Thanks.
You should be able to install custom ROMs, including CM, with a little effort. This does not appear to be a dev phone. However, all you need is the ability to unlock the bootloader in order do the things necessary to flash custom ROMs. In terms of flashing ROMs, the only difference between a dev phone and an unlocked regular phone is the dev phone will still have an intact warranty. Since this device supposedly comes with 4.2.2, you should be able to run sunshine from the rootninja to unlock the bootloader for $25 (I think it's 25).
You sound like a fairly new flasher. In that case, you need to read read read. Forums, tutorials, every sticky in the Moto X forum, fastboot/adb tutorials, read read read. There are smart people (I am not one of those people) here who will help you but you will save yourself a lot of time and frustration if you educate yourself first. Best of luck my friend and happy flashing.
P.S. always remember to nandroid.
Like cntryby429 said IF it does indeed come with Android version 4.2.2 than you should be able to unlock with sunshine and flash away. I would definitely double check with the seller first though and make sure that is what is actually on the phone.
You'll possibly be disappointed when you use any rom other than stock based ones. No unique moto features on them.... And certain so far unfixed bugs.
Stock and gravity box seems to be the popular choice. If your bootloader is unlocked and you're rooted.
If by chance you get a 4.4.4 device.... You won't be able to Root or pay even to unlock.... As of today.
Good luck!
Thanks for the help guys.
@KJ
What moto features are you referring to? As a former Droid X user I can say that I'm flashing cyanogenmod to get rid of moto features/bloatware. The seller said that the phone was on 4.2.2, so I don't think that 4.4.4 will be a problem for me. Also, I was also under the assumption that cyanogenmod gave me root by default. Has that changed?
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Thanks for the help guys.
@KJ
What moto features are you referring to? As a former Droid X user I can say that I'm flashing cyanogenmod to get rid of moto features/bloatware. The seller said that the phone was on 4.2.2, so I don't think that 4.4.4 will be a problem for me. Also, I was also under the assumption that cyanogenmod gave me root by default. Has that changed?
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If you unlock your bootloader, which you would have to to flash any rom.... Rooting is simple. Unlock. Flash custom recovery. Flash SU binaries, tho I think twrp and the others do this.... Then install SU. Done.
Active display and touchless control are only on stock and stock based roms. That's why most stay stock and use Gravity box to customize.
And maybe it's changed, but last I knew... Aosp/cm roms have sound or speaker issues. That's the big issue.
Debloating what you don't want is as simple as freezing the apps with titanium backup. ?
Just my 2 cents. To each their own of course.
CM or any custom ROM will have root built in. But you have to be unlocked and rooted with custom recovery before you can flash. Moto x features KJ was referring to would be active display, touch less control, and assist. Any AOSP, or CM based ROM will not have these features. I have flashed about every ROM available for our device and always return to stock. Xposed modules will allow you to customize your phone while running stock firmware. And if you want to remove bloat, just being rooted will allow that.
droid2501 said:
I'm on the Verizon network and I want to purchase the Motorola Moto X and put cyanogenmod on it. I read that I have to have the developer edition of the phone in order to do this. I was thinking of purchasing it from this ebay vendor...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-XT...55120?pt=Cell_Phones&var=&hash=item5d507be410
This is my first time purchasing a phone on ebay so I wanted to make sure I am getting the correct phone. I guess my question(s) would be...
Can I install cyanogenmod on this phone? Is this the developer edition phone?
Thanks.
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First off that listing of specs looks like a copy/paste of the default Moto X feature set when it shipped. I would question that it really still has 4.2.2 rom on there, especially since it says "seller refurbished." 4.2.2 was the initial version the X shipped with, and the first OTA update. Since then, 4.4, 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 have been pushed too it.
It does not appear to be a Developer Edition of the XT1060, but rather a regular retail or Moto Maker version.
To flash any rom besides the Stock and signed by Moto roms for the Verizon XT1060 onto the phone, you need to Unlock the Bootloader.
As @kwyrt mentioned, Sunshine can be used to unlock the bootloader if the XT1060 is on 4.4.2 or lower (and its bootloader is for 4.4.2 or lower). As @KJ said, if you have 4.4.4 you can't bootloader unlock. That is because Sunshine doesn't work 4.4.4, Moto doesn't give out the unlock codes for the Non-Developer Edition XT1060, and the China Middleman (who was selling codes) isn't responding.
So it all comes down to how accurate that listing is. Does it really have 4.2.2? or did they upgrade it when "refurbishing" it but used a copy/paste of an old "spec sheet"?
And of course, if it was a true developer edition, you could just get the bootloader unlock code from Moto's web site and be done with it.
We have flashify/flashfire, so why can't we just flash using these?
The locked bootloader won't allow booting an unsigned kernel.
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The locked bootloader won't allow booting an unsigned kernel.
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But we can install custom Roms?
cjc2040 said:
But we can install custom Roms?
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If the rom is using the stock kernel there is no problem. That is why we don't have AOSP like CM 13 yet.
In theory you could flash a rom form another G4 but your radio probably won't work. I remember that with the G3 you could do this and then there was a fix for the radio to get it working but they also have an unlocked bootloader.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
If the rom is using the stock kernel there is no problem. That is why we don't have AOSP like CM 13 yet.
In theory you could flash a rom form another G4 but your radio probably won't work. I remember that with the G3 you could do this and then there was a fix for the radio to get it working but they also have an unlocked bootloader.
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I see so then what is preventing us from unlocking the bootloader or even installing TWRP. I know TWRP usually requires unlocked bootloader but can't we set it to read AND write permissions?
cjc2040 said:
I see so then what is preventing us from unlocking the bootloader or even installing TWRP. I know TWRP usually requires unlocked bootloader but can't we set it to read AND write permissions?
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TWRP has a custom kernel. It is pretty much a kernel image so you need an unlocked bootloader. As far as unlocking the bootloader, it has a encryption key. If we had that we would be good but we don't so we need to bypass it somehow.
I think that our best bet is to wait and see if the sprint g5 gets unlocked and try to use that. Other than that I remember with the droid razr maxx that I had they used a program called safestrap instead of TWRP. It essentially took the stock kernel and loaded whatever you told it to software wise. However it had a boot screen which took 5 seconds longer to boot. Kind of like dual booting on a PC with grub.
P.S. I'm looking to get a Sprint G4 and start development on it but they are still too expensive.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
TWRP has a custom kernel. It is pretty much a kernel image so you need an unlocked bootloader. As far as unlocking the bootloader, it has a encryption key. If we had that we would be good but we don't so we need to bypass it somehow.
I think that our best bet is to wait and see if the sprint g5 gets unlocked and try to use that. Other than that I remember with the droid razr maxx that I had they used a program called safestrap instead of TWRP. It essentially took the stock kernel and loaded whatever you told it to software wise. However it had a boot screen which took 5 seconds longer to boot. Kind of like dual booting on a PC with grub.
P.S. I'm looking to get a Sprint G4 and start development on it but they are still too expensive.
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Development is dead on this device. We can make stock modified system images hardly call it a rom. Ure wasting ure time buying this. There will not be a bootloader unlock. Cant be hacked as of yet some of the worlds greatest android minds have tried may even still be. Fact is its prob not gonna happent any time soon. And the solution will either come from g5 or whatever they make after that. The bootloader partitions are to highly encrypted to hack. It does it really sucks but like i said lost cause