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Can the Moto X bootloader be unlocked?

Can the Moto X bootloader be unlocked? I ask this because from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), the bootloader must be unlocked in order to flash custom ROMs. Also, I'm aware that there's a Developer Edition of the Moto X that has an unlocked bootloader. This question is for the standard Moto X, not the Developer Edition. Thanks!
- Shadowz1218

Shadowz1218 said:
Can the Moto X bootloader be unlocked? I ask this because from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), the bootloader must be unlocked in order to flash custom ROMs. Also, I'm aware that there's a Developer Edition of the Moto X that has an unlocked bootloader. This question is for the standard Moto X, not the Developer Edition. Thanks!
- Shadowz1218
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AFAIK, there are some models can not be bootloader unlocked, the AT&T, Verizon, Nextel Mexico. Others are bootloader unlockable.

yghrv said:
AFAIK, there are some models can not be bootloader unlocked, the AT&T, Verizon, Nextel Mexico. Others are bootloader unlockable.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.

Shadowz1218 said:
Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Well, in order to flash a ROM, you'll need to have a recovery capable of doing so. In order to flash a recovery, you'll need an unlocked bootloader. Ergo...
The only reason bootloaders get unlocked is so that custom recoveries can be installed. Not just to flash, but also for backing up. Stock recovery doesn't really do anything but factory reset.

Shadowz1218 said:
Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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rockingondrums said:
Well, in order to flash a ROM, you'll need to have a recovery capable of doing so. In order to flash a recovery, you'll need an unlocked bootloader. Ergo...
The only reason bootloaders get unlocked is so that custom recoveries can be installed. Not just to flash, but also for backing up. Stock recovery doesn't really do anything but factory reset.
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You can root and flash roms without an unlocked bootloader. Look at the Development thread, there are root/recovery options for 4.2.2 and 4.4. There isn't much development happening. If anything we're probably going to get stock based roms for the most part.

Shadowz1218 said:
Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Out of curiosity, why is the ability to flash a custom ROM a must-have? I felt that way at first, but many Moto X users (including myself) now believe that a combination of root, Xposed and GravityBox is enough.

Shadowz1218 said:
Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Then get a VZW developer edition.

chaoslimits said:
You can root and flash roms without an unlocked bootloader. Look at the Development thread, there are root/recovery options for 4.2.2 and 4.4. There isn't much development happening. If anything we're probably going to get stock based roms for the most part.
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Well I know root is certainly possible, but how do you flash a rom on the Moto X without using a recovery such as CWM or TWRP?

rockingondrums said:
Well I know root is certainly possible, but how do you flash a rom on the Moto X without using a recovery such as CWM or TWRP?
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safestrap.

charlie-n said:
safestrap.
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There's no safestrap for 4.4 yet, correct?
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You can try root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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charlie-n said:
safestrap.
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But isn't safestrap that weird hack that leaves the original system alone and just sticks another install on the device? I wanted to get a vzw S4 until I learned I'd be stuck with the original bloated OS installed along the one I want (if I'm understanding it correctly)

rockingondrums said:
But isn't safestrap that weird hack that leaves the original system alone and just sticks another install on the device? I wanted to get a vzw S4 until I learned I'd be stuck with the original bloated OS installed along the one I want (if I'm understanding it correctly)
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Pretty much
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charlie-n said:
safestrap.
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If you can flash a custom ROM with said "safestrap," what's the point of having an unlocked bootloader? What can you do with an unlocked bootloader that you can't do without one?

Shadowz1218 said:
If you can flash a custom ROM with said "safestrap," what's the point of having an unlocked bootloader? What can you do with an unlocked bootloader that you can't do without one?
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You can flash other versions on your phone. I unlocked my bootloader and flashed the Verizon version, just because. I came from a Latin American version of the phone.

RagnaParadise said:
You can flash other versions on your phone. I unlocked my bootloader and flashed the Verizon version, just because. I came from a Latin American version of the phone.
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I don't quite understand what you mean by "flashing other versions on your phone." My question is what's the advantage of having an unlocked bootloader. Also, are there any disadvantages of flashing a custom ROM with a safestrap?

Shadowz1218 said:
I don't quite understand what you mean by "flashing other versions on your phone." My question is what's the advantage of having an unlocked bootloader. Also, are there any disadvantages of flashing a custom ROM with a safestrap?
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Normally, it's to allow you to flash a custom recovery, so that you can flash the plethora of zips you can find. The disadvantage with safestrap is what I said above: It's a hack that leaves the original OS on the phone, just sitting there taking up space. You know how the S4's only came with 9 GBs free on the 16 GBs? Well, if I bought a verizon one, I'd have to safestrap CM or whatever on to the phone, so I'd be left with the original TW hog and then lose more space to CM. I mean, if you can deal with that then you're golden. But it is still a disadvantage. And I wouldn't do it (which is why I ended up not buying the S4, even though I really wanted it).

rockingondrums said:
Normally, it's to allow you to flash a custom recovery, so that you can flash the plethora of zips you can find. The disadvantage with safestrap is what I said above: It's a hack that leaves the original OS on the phone, just sitting there taking up space. You know how the S4's only came with 9 GBs free on the 16 GBs? Well, if I bought a verizon one, I'd have to safestrap CM or whatever on to the phone, so I'd be left with the original TW hog and then lose more space to CM. I mean, if you can deal with that then you're golden. But it is still a disadvantage. And I wouldn't do it (which is why I ended up not buying the S4, even though I really wanted it).
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So if I want to replace the original OS with another ROM I'd have no choice but to unlock the bootloader and use a custom recovery? Also, is it possible that an OTA update could break the safestrap, or stop it from working anymore?

Ok, rather than this unnecessary back and forth, if you have Verizon and "flashing custom ROMS is a must for me" like you say then just get the Verizon Developer Edition which has an unlocked bootloader and be done with it.

LordLugard said:
Ok, rather than this unnecessary back and forth, if you have Verizon and "flashing custom ROMS is a must for me" like you say then just get the Verizon Developer Edition which has an unlocked bootloader and be done with it.
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I was simply trying to understand if there's any practical advantage of having an unlocked bootloader vs. using other methods such as a safestrap. If I can get a custom Moto X at a discounted price on a 2-year contract, I'd much rather go that route instead of paying the retail price for a Developer Edition.

Flashing without unlocking bootloader??

i need to know if i can flash a Verizon firmware on a moto x without unlocking the bootloader
thank u

Yes. Signed firmware will flash but it must be the firmware designed for your phone

gunnyman said:
Yes. Signed firmware will flash but it must be the firmware designed for your phone
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what do u mean with firmware designed for ur phone?

it can't be custom if has to be the stock OTA firmware packages so either 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 for your Verizon phone

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it can't be custom if has to be the stock OTA firmware packages so either 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 for your Verizon phone
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so mine it s unlocked t-mobile and i want to flash the 4.4 verizon firmware for the italian language
that what i mean

danger2u said:
so mine it s unlocked t-mobile and i want to flash the 4.4 verizon firmware for the italian language
that what i mean
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Ok im not sure why you would want to do that.
your phone is only unlocked for GSM carrier's
Sprint/Verizon are CDMA carriers so you will never be able to take your unlocked moto X over to them.
so i guess the question i need to ask is why are you wanted to flash the verizon firmware on your T-Mobile Moto X

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Ok im not sure why you would want to do that.
your phone is only unlocked for GSM carrier's
Sprint/Verizon are CDMA carriers so you will never be able to take your unlocked moto X over to them.
so i guess the question i need to ask is why are you wanted to flash the verizon firmware on your T-Mobile Moto X
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because Verizon have italian language on system.T mobile doesn t have.
i used Verizon with my first moto x and i flashed over T mobile firmware but i dont remember if i unlocked the bootloader or not

it is a signed firmware so you should be able to flash it without unlocking the bootloader.
i did some research and weird that only verizon offers all the Languages. have you tried flashing a rom like the one below it is made for verizon and all gsm it might have everything you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521509

dray_jr said:
it is a signed firmware so you should be able to flash it without unlocking the bootloader.
i did some research and weird that only verizon offers all the Languages. have you tried flashing a rom like the one below it is made for verizon and all gsm it might have everything you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521509
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i will try eclipse too but with that i must unlock the bootloader and i don t want

danger2u said:
i will try eclipse too but with that i must unlock the bootloader and i don t want
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safestrap
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/

dray_jr said:
safestrap
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
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thanks
this really help me
a dual boot os
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Rooted Sprint MOTO X SBF

I was trying to bypass the handsfree activation screen on my XT1056 but met with no success until someone suggested that I manually delete the SprintOMADM2.apk file. That did the trick but in order not to jump through hoops next time he (samwathegreat) also suggested that I extract the system.img from the phone and use it next time for other phones. So I went a step further to RDS Lite the phone to factory, rooted, installed busybox, flashed philz recovery and extracted the system.img after renaming the SprintOMADM2.apk to a bak file. I now used 7zip to modify a copy of the Sprint 4.4.2 SBF I had on my laptop to include the extracted system.img, a logo.bin file that removes the unlocked bootloader warning and also modified the xml file to remove the getvar line. I flashed it on another bootloader unlocked RW MOTO X and all went well. It became a stock rooted Sprint MOTO X essentially, and no handsfree activation screen, no unlocked bootloader warning.
I just want to share, in case anyone might come across a need for it. However, I will not be responsible for any damage to your phone by using this file. Backup before using as this will essentially wipe your device.
Let me just say this clearly here. This is only for you if you want to use the SIM unlock on a RW MOTO X XT1049, hence the need to transform your RW XT1049 to a Sprint MOTO X.
YOU MUST BE BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED TO USE THIS​
Here is the link:
Rooted Sprint MOTO X 4.4.2 SBF (with busybox and unlocked bootloader warning removed)

Just so I understand this, once I flash this to an unlocked RW phone, it becomes a sprint phone and I cannot use it on Republic thereafter? In other words, I can use it only on sprint (or any BYOSD carrier) from now on?

If Sprint will activate the ESN for you, fine. But if not, you can use the SIM unlock on it and use it on GSM. You cannot use the SIM unlock on your RW Moto X without installing a Sprint ROM on it, so this makes it easier. Rooted, unlocked bootloader warning removed.
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ezeuba said:
If Sprint will activate the ESN for you, fine.
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They won't. It will, however, allow you to use it on another CDMA carrier, such as PagePlus if you follow the relevant instructions in the "Flash Moto X to Page Plus" thread. Page Plus (and some other CDMA carriers) will absolutely allow you to activate it.
Also, @ezeuba : any suggestions for Vivjen in the Sim-Crack thread? They are getting some kind of "call barring" error that I haven't seen previously. I'm guessing the instructions just weren't followed correctly....

is this ok to use on a sprint moto x on a gsm network in europe? is sim unlocked, but i hate the damn handsfree activation thingie.
thanks.

balenax said:
is this ok to use on a sprint moto x on a gsm network in europe? is sim unlocked, but i hate the damn handsfree activation thingie.
thanks.
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Sure. Just redo the SIM unlock thing again. Shouldn't be much stress. This takes away the handsfree activation prompt, removes the bootloader unlock warning and also comes rooted already. Let us know how it went.
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ezeuba said:
Sure. Just redo the SIM unlock thing again. Shouldn't be much stress. This takes away the handsfree activation prompt, removes the bootloader unlock warning and also comes rooted already. Let us know how it went.
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will do as soon as i get my bootloader unlock code from moto . i bought the phone already unlocked, i don't know if it's officially unlocked or not but i will see for myself .
thanks.
LE: worked great, thanks a lot.

ezeuba said:
I was trying to bypass the handsfree activation screen on my XT1056 but met with no success until someone suggested that I manually delete the SprintOMADM2.apk file. That did the trick but in order not to jump through hoops next time he (samwathegreat) also suggested that I extract the system.img from the phone and use it next time for other phones. So I went a step further to RDS Lite the phone to factory, rooted, installed busybox, flashed philz recovery and extracted the system.img after renaming the SprintOMADM2.apk to a bak file. I now used 7zip to modify a copy of the Sprint 4.4.2 SBF I had on my laptop to include the extracted system.img, a logo.bin file that removes the unlocked bootloader warning and also modified the xml file to remove the getvar line. I flashed it on another bootloader unlocked RW MOTO X and all went well. It became a stock rooted Sprint MOTO X essentially, and no handsfree activation screen, no unlocked bootloader warning.
I just want to share, in case anyone might come across a need for it. However, I will not be responsible for any damage to your phone by using this file. Backup before using as this will essentially wipe your device.
Let me just say this clearly here. This is only for you if you want to use the SIM unlock on a RW MOTO X XT1049, hence the need to transform your RW XT1049 to a Sprint MOTO X.
YOU MUST BE BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED TO USE THIS​
Here is the link:
Rooted Sprint MOTO X 4.4.2 SBF (with busybox and unlocked bootloader warning removed)
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link dead??

itzmydamnlyf said:
link dead??
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Nope...works fine. Must be an issue on your end, or you ISP blocks that service...

samwathegreat said:
Nope...works fine. Must be an issue on your end, or you ISP blocks that service...
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seems like that. are there any alternative links?

itzmydamnlyf said:
seems like that. are there any alternative links?
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Here you go...
Modified Rooted MOTO X Sprint SBF Google Drive link

ezeuba said:
Here you go...
Modified Rooted MOTO X Sprint SBF Google Drive link
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thanks a lot.

itzmydamnlyf said:
seems like that. are there any alternative links?
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thanks a lot.
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You're welcome...

Thank you very very much... Yeah my friend ur Rom worked like a charm... I was able to SIM UNLOCK this phone also but had trouble with network settings, later got it working with help of mobile network settings app from play store... Calls, Wi-Fi r working... But even after getting Apn N Settings from network, mobile data is not working nor 2G neither 3G plz help on this part... NO DATA for now
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[Q] AT&T XT1058 can i flash it to a generic rom?

Hi, I got an AT&T XT1058 from ebay. I'm in teh UK so I'd really like to flash it with a stock UK ROM. I've had a look on here and with the huge amount of info I can't figure out if this is possible and which rom to use. it's 4.4.2 that's on the phone at teh moment which i believe can't be downgraded or unlocked easily, is that right?
any help would be greatly appreciated
cheers

To flash any Rom besides the Stock, Signed Moto ROM for your carrier and model X, you need to unlock the bootloader.
While Moto doesn't give out the Bootloader Unlock Code for the ATT USA XT1058, since you have 4.4.2 on it still, you should be able to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. (NOTE: please boot into fastboot/bootloader on the phone, and verify the version on the 2nd line is 30.B4 which is correct for 4.4.2).
Once you use sunshine, you can flash 3rd party recoveries, roms, etc.
While I have NOT done it, I've seen posts of ATT US Xt1058 owners flashing with Parts of the XT1053 rom to remove bloat, etc. (flashing the modems will likely change which wireless bands the phone can connect to). I do not advise flashing another carrier's rom. It could get messy, especially around UPDATE time. And I've seen some lose Cellular and WIFI flashing the wrong modem files.
One final thing. The ATT US XT1058 is SIM/Carrier locked too. So in order to use a non-ATT SIM in it you'll need to obtain a SIM unlock code. You should be able to get this from any web site selling unlock codes on the internet.

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To flash any Rom besides the Stock, Signed Moto ROM for your carrier and model X, you need to unlock the bootloader.
While Moto doesn't give out the Bootloader Unlock Code for the ATT USA XT1058, since you have 4.4.2 on it still, you should be able to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. (NOTE: please boot into fastboot/bootloader on the phone, and verify the version on the 2nd line is 30.B4 which is correct for 4.4.2).
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hey, thanks for the very helpful response unfortunately i seem to have suffered from a bout of stupidity writing that and it's 4.4.4 that i've got on the phone! how does that affect things? also as an aside the sim is unlocked so i can use any sim so at least that's something...
thanks again

hardflipman said:
hey, thanks for the very helpful response unfortunately i seem to have suffered from a bout of stupidity writing that and it's 4.4.4 that i've got on the phone! how does that affect things? also as an aside the sim is unlocked so i can use any sim so at least that's something...
thanks again
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To unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 Moto X, there are only two possible ways..
The China Middleman thread (in the general section), although he only has codes for certain date range of phones (depends on the Assembly Date of your phone), BUT he has recently stopped responding again. There is no telling if/when it will start up again
Sunshine, which doesn't work with 4.4.4. However you can always try it since it wont charge you if it doesn't work. (i.e. it checks your phone, if it will work, if wont, it tells you and exits without charging you).
4.4.4 can't be temp rooted either.
So you are pretty much stuck stock ATT, and then just get it sim unlocked to use it with your carrier.

KidJoe said:
To unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 Moto X, there are only two possible ways..
The China Middleman thread (in the general section), although he only has codes for certain date range of phones (depends on the Assembly Date of your phone), BUT he has recently stopped responding again. There is no telling if/when it will start up again
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thanks for the reply. I guess i'll give the china middleman a try. I'd really like to get rid of the ATT address book, the fact that it perpetually shows as 4g connection and have the phone speak to me in a not american accent!
cheers

the same here
at&t xt1058 with stock android 4.4.4 (ota updated from 4.4.2)
system version 212.44.26.ghost_att.ATT.en.US
build no KXA21.12-L1.26
been using this phone in Europe, Greece with another carriers SIM card
everything ok, except for the LTE bands (in Greece I need bands 3,7,20) and the AT&T bloatware i wanna remove
would like to root, but i'm not able to unlock via motorola's website
let me know if u had any success via the china middleman, or if u find another way
thanks

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thanks for the reply. I guess i'll give the china middleman a try.
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cxp7 said:
let me know if u had any success via the china middleman, or if u find another way
thanks
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As I said.. the China Middleman has stopped responding again.

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As I said.. the China Middleman has stopped responding again.
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I'm on Rogers xt1058 (16GB)
Is there any way (assuming I can unlock the BL) to get developer edition ROM?

MadPriest said:
I'm on Rogers xt1058 (16GB)
Is there any way (assuming I can unlock the BL) to get developer edition ROM?
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For the Rogers XT1058, Moto does offer the Bootloader Unlock code for free from their web site -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth it will void your warranty
The GSM Dev Edtion is the XT1053. It has different radio/modem files, its hardware supports different bands (less LTE bands). I never recommend flashing another model's ROM as we have seen loss of cellular in some cases, where even flashing the original firmware back didn't fix.
Once you unlock your bootloader and root, you can remove and freeze any bloat on the phone (freezing is preferred because the next OTA might require it to be there).

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Once you unlock your bootloader and root, you can remove and freeze any bloat on the phone (freezing is preferred because the next OTA might require it to be there).
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Thank you for the reply
I'm on 4.4.4, I understand there's no root for me

MadPriest said:
Thank you for the reply
I'm on 4.4.4, I understand there's no root for me
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Only if you can't unlock your boot loader. But as I said, moto does give out the unlock codes on their web site for the Rogers xt1058
Also, without unlocking the boot loader, you can only flash the rom for your phone model and its carrier branding.

I see
Thank you for the answers
I knew the second part, was not sure about the first one.
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[Q] Moto X AT&T stock version, does it come with a lock?

Hi guys,
total n00b question.
A friend of mine brought an AT&T Moto X (1st generation) phone with him for me from the U.S. to Germany.
He bought it from the motorola.com page directly 2 years ago through the Thanksgiving promo, never got it activated and its still stock and everything, never used before.
He paid the full retail price of 400$ at the time, does it however still come with a sim/netlock?
I thought since it didn't come with a contract (where you pay only a few $ and you are bound to a 1y/2y contract) and he paid the full 400$ for it, it doesn't have any sim/net lock?
Sadly I don't have a nano sim card to try it out, before I order one from my carrier I was hoping someone could help me out with this
I know that simlock threads are not allowed, I'm not asking for an unlock, just whether a retail 400$ phone has that lock or not?
Thanks in advance!

If it's stock and on 4.4.2 or below, invest in Sunshine to unlock your bootloader. I'm not sure if AT&T sim-locked their Moto Xs. They should provide the code for free, if necessary, though since the phone was paid in full.

Thanks for the quick reply, already looked into SuneShine for unlocking the BL (its a shame that I didn't pick the T-Mobile version over the AT&T, hmm)
But worth spending another 25$ for it!
Now I'm still curious about the sim/netlock.
From what I found out by googling and reading for hours, if it has a simlock, AT&T will not unlock it cause I've never been a customer and it never was hooked up to an AT&T account, kinda bad if you ask me for a full price cell phone... The T-Mobile version comes 100% sim and BL unlocked...
Moto chat support cant help, they didn't even know that there are different versions of the Moto X 1st Gen...

It's usually less than 20 dollars to unlock them on a website that offers Sim unlocking. Not sure if at&t devices are usually OK to do so, but I would think they are. The carriers usually charge more even... In Canada anyway. ?

OK, thanks a lot!
I'm really just surprised that if you pay the full retail price for a phone it can still be sim/netlocked...
Hope you guys don't mind asking me another few questions, I'm just transiting over from my Razr I so a few things are different
If I don't need a custom recovery but planning on installing a different official Moto firmware which is signed by Moto (would love to flash the EU firmware to have full German language support) do I still need to unlock the BL or will this work with a locked BL since its an official Moto firmware?
Also are there any files I should not flash, therefore remove from the xml?
And I know that the BL unlock has nothing to do with the sim unlock, but any change if I unlock the BL and flash a different firmware, I won't need to enter a sim unlock code then?
I'm just trying to get as many answers before I try it and find out the "hard" way it won't work and that it results in a completely bricked device in the end...
AND sorry, but another question
Are the LTE bands hardware or software coded? Cause we use different bands over here in Europe and I know from the Sony Z1C you can activate all bands software-wise, so I was thinking maybe its the same with the Moto X?
Thanks again!

Hello, I was wondering if I also could install a pure Android on my at&t Moto X 2014?
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mmaslo1124 said:
Hello, I was wondering if I also could install a pure Android on my at&t Moto X 2014?
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Wrong section, This is the 2013 section. And this thread has nothing to do with your question, that's called thread hijacking.
So you should go to the Moto X 2014 section, and if you don't see a thread on the same sort of topic.... Then post your own thread in the Q&A section. ?

So I read an insane number of pages and somewhere I found this great page:
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
Long story short, I reveived a nano sim card today, AT&T Moto X is locked, contacted AT&T via the above mentioned website, it took 2 days and today I received my sim unlock code via email from AT&T for free, no account with them needed and it works!

dagoban said:
If I don't need a custom recovery but planning on installing a different official Moto firmware which is signed by Moto (would love to flash the EU firmware to have full German language support) do I still need to unlock the BL or will this work with a locked BL since its an official Moto firmware?
Also are there any files I should not flash, therefore remove from the xml?
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With the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 being locked, you'll only be able to flash Moto Signed Roms for your phone's CID or carrier branding. You will not be able to flash the XT1052 EU rom, or other X roms. Only the ATT XT1058.
If you are lucky and your ATT XT1058 has not yet been upgraded to Android 4.4.4 and bootoader 30.B7, you should be able to use JCase's Sunshine tool to unlock the bootloader. Note: Because this is a HACK, do NOT try to re-lock the bootloader after using it, or you will be permanently bootloader locked.
dagoban said:
And I know that the BL unlock has nothing to do with the sim unlock, but any change if I unlock the BL and flash a different firmware, I won't need to enter a sim unlock code then?
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I don't believe flashing a different ROM would give you SIM unlock.
You're only option is getting it from the Carrier if you meet their terms/conditions. Or buying a SIM unlock code from an online seller.
dagoban said:
AND sorry, but another question
Are the LTE bands hardware or software coded? Cause we use different bands over here in Europe and I know from the Sony Z1C you can activate all bands software-wise, so I was thinking maybe its the same with the Moto X?
Thanks again!
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I've read different things. So I can't say for sure which is correct.
I know that the Verizon X, XT1060, initially game supporting only LTE Band 13. Band 4 was later enabled by firmware update.
But I've also seen posts of some losing their entire cellular radio when flashing other model's full roms, and not getting it back by flashing the correct rom. (I don't recall the full details, sorry!).
On other phones, I've seen things like "edits" to turn on other bands. But no so for the 2013 X.
So I wouldn't mess with it.

Thanks for the explanations @KidJoe
Until know I didn't know that a signed Moto firmware is not just bound to the model but also to a CID, always thought you could flash any region firmware over the phone as long as its the same model.
Sunshine is def. an option, I didn't take the OTA (even thou it reminds me at least once a day cause I suspected already there would be more exploits available with a lower android OS.
SIM unlock is no problem anymore, AT&T provided me the unlock key via website request (took me a while to find that link, thou) and you don't need to have an account with them and the phone does NOT need to be hooked to an AT&T contract.
About the LTE bands:
OK, I don't want to mess with the modem / radio and lose all bands in the end but could I just flash the system files from the EU version via fastboot?
Which files should I flash and which files should I avoid flashing?
Basicially what I'm trying to achieve is getting German as android language and not just have German as keyboard language.
Or is German included in the CM11 as well cause then I imagine it would be much easier to just flash CM11 without damaging any bands...
All in all, I'm just looking for a fully stable KK OS that is in German
Thanks again for your replies!

dagoban said:
About the LTE bands:
OK, I don't want to mess with the modem / radio and lose all bands in the end but could I just flash the system files from the EU version via fastboot?
Which files should I flash and which files should I avoid flashing?
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You could try using mFastboot and flash only System.img... BUT!!!! Its going to cause issues with OTA updates, and having mismatched parts always increases the risks for bricking and/or things just not working correctly!! So I usually don't recommend mixing things up.
dagoban said:
Basicially what I'm trying to achieve is getting German as android language and not just have German as keyboard language.
Or is German included in the CM11 as well cause then I imagine it would be much easier to just flash CM11 without damaging any bands...
All in all, I'm just looking for a fully stable KK OS that is in German
Thanks again for your replies!
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I've not messed with adding additional languages. Nor have I used CM as I like my Moto features too much, and stock (rooted) runs just fine here.