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[Q] Conflicting information on T-Mobile X on AT&T

So I've been searching around, and some people say that AT&Ts LTE works perfectly, but some say that there is a missing band
Steve-x said:
I have seen several posts on flashing XT1053(retail/tmobile/developer) firmware on XT1058(AT&T/Rogers/etc) hardware. I believe most people were only doing the OS though and not the entire flash(including the radio/modem)
The XT1053 is FCC ID ihdt56pa2 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 1700/850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04 and 17
The XT1058 is FCC ID ihdt56pa1 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04,05 and 17
So the differences are that the XT1053 supports wcdma 1700 and the XT1058 supports LTE band 05.
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But on the CyanogenMod page about the devices, they have the exact same bands:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1053_Info
So the reason I'm choosing the Tmobile X over the native ATT one is because ATT locked the bootloader, and has ugly logos on the phone, plus bloatware. Unlocked bootloader is the main thing. I'm not getting the developer edition because I really want to customize my phone .
So, can SOMEONE confirm if you can use E/3G/4G/LTE on the TMobile Moto X?

shusain93 said:
So I've been searching around, and some people say that AT&Ts LTE works perfectly, but some say that there is a missing band
But on the CyanogenMod page about the devices, they have the exact same bands:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1053_Info
So the reason I'm choosing the Tmobile X over the native ATT one is because ATT locked the bootloader, and has ugly logos on the phone, plus bloatware. Unlocked bootloader is the main thing. I'm not getting the developer edition because I really want to customize my phone .
So, can SOMEONE confirm if you can use E/3G/4G/LTE on the TMobile Moto X?
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I can confirm that the "T-Mobile" Moto X (XT1053) works 100% on AT&T 3G and LTE. I am using this model on AT&T's GoPhone service without any issues, both 3G HSPA+ and LTE work fine.
It is true that the XT1053 model is "missing" an LTE band (Band 5) -- however, AT&T does NOT use this band in the United States (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas), and the T-Mobile version has Bands 4 and 17 that AT&T uses in the U.S. So, if you're using AT&T in the U.S., the T-Mobile XT1053 model will work fine on LTE.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Moto X's IMEI will not be automatically provisioned by AT&T for LTE access since it's not an AT&T branded phone (AT&T's network assumes that non-AT&T phones are "dumbphones" that only work with HSPA+) -- you'll need to provide them with an IMEI of an AT&T LTE phone to get LTE access. This was confusing to me at first, because when I first activated my Moto X on the AT&T network I only could connect to HSPA+. I eventually had to go to an AT&T store, write down the IMEI of a Galaxy Note 2 floor model (but any LTE phone in the store would work), and give that IMEI to AT&T. After that, LTE worked perfectly.
Hope this helps!
James

Jimbogiant said:
One thing to keep in mind is that the Moto X's IMEI will not be automatically provisioned by AT&T for LTE access since it's not an AT&T branded phone (AT&T's network assumes that non-AT&T phones are "dumbphones" that only work with HSPA+) -- you'll need to provide them with an IMEI of an AT&T LTE phone to get LTE access. This was confusing to me at first, because when I first activated my Moto X on the AT&T network I only could connect to HSPA+. I eventually had to go to an AT&T store, write down the IMEI of a Galaxy Note 2 floor model (but any LTE phone in the store would work), and give that IMEI to AT&T. After that, LTE worked perfectly
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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?

shusain93 said:
How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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I've never had to give them a fake IEMI. I just had to call and give them the one from my phone, and they then added LTE to it.

icase81 said:
I've never had to give them a fake IEMI. I just had to call and give them the one from my phone, and they then added LTE to it.
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So I can take the IMEI from my iPhone (LTE), call AT&T up tell them I have a phone that supports LTE, but it's only getting 3G? What am I supposed to say?

shusain93 said:
So I can take the IMEI from my iPhone (LTE), call AT&T up tell them I have a phone that supports LTE, but it's only getting 3G? What am I supposed to say?
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Just call them. Say you aren't getting LTE and want to see what's wrong. They'll ask for the IEMI, and provision it. In a fringe scenario, they'll ask you to goto a store and get a new SIM card, where they'll do the same thing and read the IEMI.

icase81 said:
Just call them. Say you aren't getting LTE and want to see what's wrong. They'll ask for the IEMI, and provision it. In a fringe scenario, they'll ask you to goto a store and get a new SIM card, where they'll do the same thing and read the IEMI.
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They provisioned mine at the store as I needed a new nano sim card. I had a gophone HSPA+ account with my Nexus 4 and they added the IEMI from the Moto X to my account, changed my plan to an LTE plan and I got LTE on the Moto X. Took 5 minutes.

shusain93 said:
How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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No one is "faking" IMEIs or doing anything illegal. I'm sure people's experiences will differ from one store to the next, I'm just telling you what I had to do.
When I first got my Moto X, LTE did not work. I tried calling AT&T's customer support, and they told me my phone was "unsupported by the network," which is a huge pile of BS. So, I went to my local AT&T store and told a rep what was going on. He said "I'll be right back," grabbed a Galaxy Note 2 from a display, and wrote down its IMEI. He punched that into the system and voilá, the Moto X's LTE worked and it's been great ever since.
This was back in September, so maybe AT&T automatically recognizes Moto X IMEIs and provisions them for LTE. If not, just go in to a store and they'll get it figured out for you.
James

Anybody know if my microcell from atnt will work with the Tmobile version of the moto x?
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Jimbogiant said:
No one is "faking" IMEIs or doing anything illegal. I'm sure people's experiences will differ from one store to the next, I'm just telling you what I had to do.
When I first got my Moto X, LTE did not work. I tried calling AT&T's customer support, and they told me my phone was "unsupported by the network," which is a huge pile of BS. So, I went to my local AT&T store and told a rep what was going on. He said "I'll be right back," grabbed a Galaxy Note 2 from a display, and wrote down its IMEI. He punched that into the system and voilá, the Moto X's LTE worked and it's been great ever since.
This was back in September, so maybe AT&T automatically recognizes Moto X IMEIs and provisions them for LTE. If not, just go in to a store and they'll get it figured out for you.
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Did you account not already have an LTE device on it? I plan on switching my sim from an already LTE device.

shusain93 said:
Did you account not already have an LTE device on it? I plan on switching my sim from an already LTE device.
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I activated a brand new account with the Moto X, so I didn't already have an LTE device on it like you do. I bet yours will work right out of the gate. I wasn't trying to scare you or imply that your phone wasn't going to work, but I wanted to let you know of the possibility of that happening and what to do if it did happen. Having been in the same situation you will be in (using AT&T on a T-Mobile Moto X), I just wanted you to have all the info.
I'm definitely not the only one to have run into a similar issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45965273&postcount=169 . This was a reply from someone helping me out w/ the LTE issue when I first got the phone in September:
UserDemos said:
Mine works on AT&T LTE out of the box. You might have to try several things: call CS and make sure your IMEI is in the system. This should update and provision your account for LTE hopefully, though sometimes they don't recognize non-AT&T phones. Make sure to shut off your phone, go outside where it's clear and reboot after they do that as it needs to a very clear signal to latch onto the tower for the first time for LTE. If that doesn't work, you need to call CS and make sure you get Tech Support and basically geek out to one of them (about how you know what bands it has and what an APN is and double check you've got the correct one, etc) as they'll have to do all sorts of things to possibly get it to work. I finally had to use my old AT&T LTE phone IMEI and keep that on the account to keep it correctly provisioned. Weird, but just my experience.
It does work though on AT&T LTE.
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Thank you everyone! Looks like I'm getting a T-Mobile X.

I got one today, more worried about it not connecting to my microcell. 32 gb Super stoked!!!
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Are most of you planning on getting a new nano sim or are you just going to cut yours down from a larger size?
I have an S4 right now which has a micro-sim. So I was thinking of cutting it down to a nano sim. Anyone done this?

I'm a little confused now on this IMEI stuff. I've got a GS3 (i747) on AT&T right now w/ LTE. I've purchased a XT1053 (T-Mobile variant of moto x).
When it comes next week and I go in to get a nano sim card will they give me a hard time because they'll want to register the IMEI of the Moto X and it won't be in their DB?
I also want to sell my i747 on swappa, but swappa you're supposed to unregister any devices from your account first right? So don't I need to remove the IMEI of my i747 from my account and have the Moto X IMEI registered then?

superm1 said:
I'm a little confused now on this IMEI stuff. I've got a GS3 (i747) on AT&T right now w/ LTE. I've purchased a XT1053 (T-Mobile variant of moto x).
When it comes next week and I go in to get a nano sim card will they give me a hard time because they'll want to register the IMEI of the Moto X and it won't be in their DB?
I also want to sell my i747 on swappa, but swappa you're supposed to unregister any devices from your account first right? So don't I need to remove the IMEI of my i747 from my account and have the Moto X IMEI registered then?
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From the sounds of it, my information from earlier in the thread may be outdated. I had the IMEI issues back in September, but from what I can gather now (and based on my experience with the Nexus 5), I think AT&T's IMEI database has been updated to automatically provision new unlocked phones to LTE.
I would just take your Moto X into an AT&T store when you get it and try it with its own IMEI -- if LTE doesn't work, just ask one of the reps if they have a placeholder LTE-enabled IMEI they could punch in instead, this is what they did for me back in September.
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chirpa12 said:
Are most of you planning on getting a new nano sim or are you just going to cut yours down from a larger size?
I have an S4 right now which has a micro-sim. So I was thinking of cutting it down to a nano sim. Anyone done this?
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I've cut down a micro SIM to a nano SIM with no problems. AT&T will give you a nano SIM for free if you walk into a store and ask for one though.

Great info guys. I'm planning to get the T-Mobile Moto X myself to use on AT&T, do I need to unlock the phone? and how do you do that?

The T-Mo version is not Sim locked, so you'll be fine. Sounds like you'll need to talk to AT&T to get LTE access, though.
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Russell Sprouts said:
The T-Mo version is not Sim locked, so you'll be fine. Sounds like you'll need to talk to AT&T to get LTE access, though.
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I already have a Galaxy S3 with LTE enabled, all I need to do is to cut the sim card right? to have LTE on T-Mobile Moto X

I'm not sure how that works... Is it really as simple as swapping the Sim card? I just got a T-Mo Moto X to replace the AT&T version I've been using on T-Mo prepaid and I thought I'd at least have to register the new IMEI before I could use it.
EDIT: Well I just successfully swapped my sim into a new T-Mo Moto X and it connected right away to LTE. So that answers that. No need to call or otherwise notify T-Mo. The above discussion suggests it may be more complicated on AT&T, though.

Used Sprint Moto X No SIM card included, how hard is it to get one?

I am looking at a Sprint Moto X that is used and has a clean ESN. They don't include a SIM card. I was wondering how hard is that to actually get from Sprint and is there a cost? If it's too much then it's not worth it may be better for me to buy new.
Thanks.

First, this should be in Q&A. Could a mod please move it?
Second, Sprint Moto Xs are SIM-locked, so they will not work with Verizon, Tmobile, etc. They can be unlocked for International SIMs only by calling Sprint and asking (I believe this requires that the phone be activated on Sprint for at least 30 days, and the account be in good standing).
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First this belongs in Q and A section. Second, Sprint doesnt even use Sim cards, I have Sprint Moto X and the only reason there is a sim card in there is for the phone to stop telling you "NO SIM" its basically a place holder. and the only way they will give you one if activate or buy a phone from them

Sorry for posting in the wrong place. I thought Sprint does use the SIM for LTE purposes. I know their voice/3g is CDMA which does not use a sim.

yazyazoo said:
Sorry for posting in the wrong place. I thought Sprint does use the SIM for LTE purposes. I know their voice/3g is CDMA which does not use a sim.
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Nope, Sprint does not use SIMs at all since they are CDMA. I don't know the specifics, their spectrum can only be used with Sprint phones or approved roaming carrier devices.
In the case of the Moto X, the SIM card is used only for International GSM networks. Most Sprint phones don't even have SIM card slots..
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Q: Pure Edition with VZW SIM card:

When the 1st Gen Moto X came out I was stationed in Germany but thanks to the fact that it was quad band it would work on all European networks (and it worked on the networks I was able to test it on). And the 1st Gen Moto X from VZW wasn't even region unlocked.
The Pure Edition covers all the same frequencies and bands that VZW covers except Band 13 which is exclusive to Verizon. As a junior/budding developer and cell phone junkie I would really love the opportunity to play with a bootloader unlocked edition to truly take advantage of all the possibilities of the phone.
Has anyone tried this yet?
Does anyone live in the RVA area, own a Pure Edition Moto X and be willing to try this with my SIM card?

Kenmichi said:
When the 1st Gen Moto X came out I was stationed in Germany but thanks to the fact that it was quad band it would work on all European networks (and it worked on the networks I was able to test it on). And the 1st Gen Moto X from VZW wasn't even region unlocked.
The Pure Edition covers all the same frequencies and bands that VZW covers except Band 13 which is exclusive to Verizon. As a junior/budding developer and cell phone junkie I would really love the opportunity to play with a bootloader unlocked edition to truly take advantage of all the possibilities of the phone.
Has anyone tried this yet?
Does anyone live in the RVA area, own a Pure Edition Moto X and be willing to try this with my SIM card?
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Verizon controls which phones can be activated on their network. I don't think they will let you activate a Pure Edition phone.

cam30era said:
Verizon controls which phones can be activated on their network. I don't think they will let you activate a Pure Edition phone.
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Additionally, the Pure Edition doesn't have a compatible CDMA radio, so you wouldn't be able to make phone calls.

nimper said:
Additionally, the Pure Edition doesn't have a compatible CDMA radio, so you wouldn't be able to make phone calls.
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In another month or 2, you'll be able to make phone calls on VoLTE.
There is a VZW thread in the General section - and a poster there has 2 phones - VZW and Pure - I asked him to try the active VZW sim in the Pure phone and give us a report. I read a report elsewhere of someone who used a VZW sim in a non-VZW iphone 6 and was able to use data, and make phone calls on VoLTE (iPhone already has VoLTE on VZW).
For what it is worth - VZW has historically only controlled what phones are activated on their CDMA network. The Nexus 7 2013 LTE was delayed on the VZW network because the network couldn't activate the sim because the N7 didn't have CDMA, it was LTE only. But while VZW was sorting that out, you could take an active VZW sim and put it in the N7 and it worked fine on the LTE bands. VZW did finally update their network, and the N7 was able to activate a sim card on VZW LTE. I don't know what effect that will have on VZW being able to regulate LTE devices - but given the results of the Iphone 6 I described above, I suspect that VZW still is unable to regulate an LTE device once a VZW sim is active.

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In another month or 2, you'll be able to make phone calls on VoLTE. .
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Wouldn't this only be possible with a firmware update? So if the Pure Edition software doesn't support it, then no phone calls for you.

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Wouldn't this only be possible with a firmware update? So if the Pure Edition software doesn't support it, then no phone calls for you.
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Yes, I think that would be right. Would probably be pretty easy for someone who knew what they were doing to port the VoLTE firmware from a VZW phone to a Pure phone - that's the great thing about being able to root/bootloader unlock, right
In the other General thread, the guy with both phones just said that he couldn't get data to work with a vzw sim in a Pure phone - so the question may be moot. Don't know if it is incompatibility with the particular LTE band where he is, or bad APN settings, or if VZW really is able to restrict their LTE network to a particular class of device (the fact the the iPhone can do it makes be doubt the restriction answer).

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Yes, I think that would be right. Would probably be pretty easy for someone who knew what they were doing to port the VoLTE firmware from a VZW phone to a Pure phone - that's the great thing about being able to root/bootloader unlock, right
In the other General thread, the guy with both phones just said that he couldn't get data to work with a vzw sim in a Pure phone - so the question may be moot. Don't know if it is incompatibility with the particular LTE band where he is, or bad APN settings, or if VZW really is able to restrict their LTE network to a particular class of device (the fact the the iPhone can do it makes be doubt the restriction answer).
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Thank you for the information, I don't know how I overlooked that thread.
My plan was to take my existing activated VZW SIM in my 1st Gen X and drop it into the 2nd Gen X, as long as the SIM is active I am good to go. But if he is confirming that the Pure Edition does not support a VZW SIM then like you said it is moot. The next thing to wait for is the VoLTE network to open up.
Additional thoughts: What about the Qualcomm software 'fix' to open up additional bands?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269

I think once the additional bands are opened on the Pure edition, it may work. For now, only 2 of the 5 VZW bands are supported on the Pure edition. Pretty bad odds to have coverage.
Kenmichi said:
Thank you for the information, I don't know how I overlooked that thread.
My plan was to take my existing activated VZW SIM in my 1st Gen X and drop it into the 2nd Gen X, as long as the SIM is active I am good to go. But if he is confirming that the Pure Edition does not support a VZW SIM then like you said it is moot. The next thing to wait for is the VoLTE network to open up.
Additional thoughts: What about the Qualcomm software 'fix' to open up additional bands?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
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Any update? Would love to update my 2013 Moto X and simply swap SIM to keep unlimited data

Verizon Re-activation issues after Plan change.

So like everyone else, I bought my Nexus Carrier Free online and just popped in my sim from my M8 and it worked.......up until 30 mins ago when I called in to make a plan change. For some reason, I could not make a plan change online so I had to call in. They recognized that my phone was not a VZW phone and I believe took it off the account to make the plan change.
Now it pops up with a message that says Sign into Verizon wireless, and your Device can not be activated. Not sure what to do at this point.
I have already tried restarting the phone and no luck. I think if I pop my sim in my old M8 it might work but I am stuck at work and cant access it until I am off. Any ideas?

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So like everyone else, I bought my Nexus Carrier Free online and just popped in my sim from my M8 and it worked.......up until 30 mins ago when I called in to make a plan change. For some reason, I could not make a plan change online so I had to call in. They recognized that my phone was not a VZW phone and I believe took it off the account to make the plan change.
Now it pops up with a message that says Sign into Verizon wireless, and your Device can not be activated. Not sure what to do at this point.
I have already tried restarting the phone and no luck. I think if I pop my sim in my old M8 it might work but I am stuck at work and cant access it until I am off. Any ideas?
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You can't make plan changes with a non-Verizon device tied to your account. They probably moved the sim to make the changes. If you're lucky you can reactivate the sim in your M8 but I'd bet you're going to have to get a new sim. Next time just take the sim out of your Nexus, put it in the M8, make your plan changes, and then switch back. I've done this a few times with an old Moto X.

That's what I figured. Well as long as they don't block my Nexus from network access, I should be alright. I hope at least. I wait till I get home and keep my fingers crossed.

Glad I saw this. I will be making a plan change before swapping to the nexus when it arrives

UPDATE. NEEDED TO ACTIVATE MY OLD PHONE WITH NEW SIM. If you want to make a plan change, pop your sim into your old phone, make the change, then into the Nexus,

I have an major issue, I don't have a Verizon device to use to activate my Sim on my nexus 6. I have service already but my Sim got damaged and the device I used to activate my Sim card the Sim card port is damaged,which is preventing my new Sim activation. I don't know anyone with a Verizon device I can use to activate the new Sim. Guess I'll just cancel my vzw service. I can't win for loosing.

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I have an major issue, I don't have a Verizon device to use to activate my Sim on my nexus 6. I have service already but my Sim got damaged and the device I used to activate my Sim card the Sim card port is damaged,which is preventing my new Sim activation. I don't know anyone with a Verizon device I can use to activate the new Sim. Guess I'll just cancel my vzw service. I can't win for loosing.
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Thats wierd for my store they know me as the rooter (hence the name), and when they see me coming in. I bring in my nexus 6, and the sales rep just takes one of their in store phones activate the sim that way and then i pop it in the nexus 6. Done that twice now with no problems.

@mwebb34
Did you read this thread > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-verizon-nano-sim-nexus-6-t2944308

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Thats wierd for my store they know me as the rooter (hence the name), and when they see me coming in. I bring in my nexus 6, and the sales rep just takes one of their in store phones activate the sim that way and then i pop it in the nexus 6. Done that twice now with no problems.
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My retail Verizon store reps are a bunch of stupid ****in **** suckers, I'm solo pissed
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@mwebb34
Did you read this thread > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-verizon-nano-sim-nexus-6-t2944308
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Yeah I already know how to do that. That's not my issue. I don't have a device to activate my new micro Sim card.

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My retail Verizon store reps are a bunch of stupid ****in **** suckers, I'm solo pissed
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Yeah I already know how to do that. That's not my issue. I don't have a device to activate my new micro Sim card.
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That was my issue in the thread referenced - after failing to get beyond the website, people on the phone (including Tech Support) and people in the store, I obtained someone's Moto X in order to activate the nano SIM on my line and then swapped it to the Nexus 6. The other option was to wait until Verizon recognizes the phone (hopefully soon), but I decided to do it early because their SIM activation process is more of a hassle than it needs to be and wanted to thwart Verizons controls, in just this little way .
And yet, some folks - especially towards the current end of that topic - have been saying that they found friendly and helpful Representatives who helped them activate directly with the Nexus 6. I don't know how that was accomplished due to the system checks in place, though.
Finding someone who can lend a phone just to activate the SIM on your line might be a consideration.
- ooofest

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That was my issue in the thread referenced - after failing to get beyond the website, people on the phone (including Tech Support) and people in the store, I obtained someone's Moto X in order to activate the nano SIM on my line and then swapped it to the Nexus 6. The other option was to wait until Verizon recognizes the phone (hopefully soon), but I decided to do it early because their SIM activation process is more of a hassle than it needs to be and wanted to thwart Verizons controls, in just this little way .
And yet, some folks - especially towards the current end of that topic - have been saying that they found friendly and helpful Representatives who helped them activate directly with the Nexus 6. I don't know how that was accomplished due to the system checks in place, though.
Finding someone who can lend a phone just to activate the SIM on your line might be a consideration.
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Iv asked everyone that I know if they had a Verizon 4g unactivated phone I could use to activate my Sim with and no luck. Just to be sure the phone that I need to borrow needs to be unactivated meaning if its already activated then it won't work right?

mwebb34 said:
Iv asked everyone that I know if they had a Verizon 4g unactivated phone I could use to activate my Sim with and no luck. Just to be sure the phone that I need to borrow needs to be unactivated meaning if its already activated then it won't work right?
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Hm, someone else might know better than I would, but I've moved phones temporarily off an active line - replacing them with an older 3G backup phone with completely different SIM - in order to use the newly freed phone to activate my new SIM on another line on behalf of a different phone. Then I just reactivate the 4G phone back on its original line after putting its original SIM back in.
For the Nexus 6, I still have the Moto X on hand from the nano SIM activation and it no longer shows up in my account for the line - instead, I get that "unrecognized" phone message from Verizon with no picture. For all I know, this Moto X is no longer considered active on my line or in this account, so might work for your line activation purposes if you're in the NY metro region, actually. PM if interested.
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ooofest said:
Hm, someone else might know better than I would, but I've moved phones temporarily off an active line - replacing them with an older 3G backup phone with completely different SIM - in order to use the newly freed phone to activate my new SIM on another line on behalf of a different phone. Then I just reactivate the 4G phone back on its original line after putting its original SIM back in.
For the Nexus 6, I still have the Moto X on hand from the nano SIM activation and it no longer shows up in my account for the line - instead, I get that "unrecognized" phone message from Verizon with no picture. For all I know, this Moto X is no longer considered active on my line or in this account, so might work for your line activation purposes if you're in the NY metro region, actually. PM if interested.
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I live in KY,I really do appreciate the offer I would take u up on it if I lived close by were I could meet up with ya and activate my Sim then hand you back the device. It will probably take me a week or so to activate a Sim because my local Verizon store reps are assholes.
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Did you read this thread > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-verizon-nano-sim-nexus-6-t2944308
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Iv seen that thread already. Thank you though for trying to help I appreciate it very much.

Finally got my nexus activated. I had to go to Walmart and buy a 4g prepaid LG transpyer I then used my imei from my old note 2. I'm now gonna return the LG to Walmart and get my 80$ back.

Same Issue Today
My finance saw Verizon cutting the data plan by $10's so she jumped on it and kicked my phone off the Verizon network in the process. Had to go to the Verizon store and get the guy to grab a return phone, program said SIM and pop it into a phone. Too bad my backup phone doesn't take the small SIMS...

What carrier for XT1050??

I have a Moto X XT1050. Its suppose to be carrier unlocked but every one i try i get the same, they cant activate.
It was recently activated on Alltel but the were just bought out by at&t. Idk what carrier this phone will work under
Can anyone help??

From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.

KidJoe said:
From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
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Ok so I called Verizon and the guy said it was carrier unlocked and they dont support it. I checked a few others through thier website but no luck.
The bootloader has been unlocked, the phone is rooted....the SIM I'm not sure about. It doesn't have SIM in it but it gets 2 bars of signal

KidJoe said:
From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
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So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?

I used xt1050 in Indonesia use gsm carrier and it work fine. So i think my device is sim unlock

Josephdbrewer25 said:
So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
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Verizon will not activate any phones that aren't Verizon branded. That's what the rep. means by "unsupported".
Some CDMA MVNOs may support it, I haven't checked around to see. Chances are T-Mo or AT&T will. As noted by another poster he found a GSM carrier in Indonesia that it works with. Chances are any European carrier will too, but that won't help him at the moment.

At&t won't take it either. I don't get it. What's the point in an unlocked phone if nobody will take it??
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So even if I activate a Verizon SIM and put it in the phone it won't work??
And Verizon has activated a non branded before.
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Ok so I called Verizon and the guy said it was carrier unlocked and they dont support it. I checked a few others through thier website but no luck.
The bootloader has been unlocked, the phone is rooted....the SIM I'm not sure about. It doesn't have SIM in it but it gets 2 bars of signal
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Verizon uses the XT1060... IF the listing on Wikipedia are correct, the XT1050 and XT1060 use slightly different frequency for CDMA.
Not to mention, as @glarepate has already said, Verizon will not activate a device that isn't Verizon Branded.
IN the OP you say its SIM Unlocked, now you say you're not sure about the SIM??
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Josephdbrewer25 said:
So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
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SIM unlocked = Carrier Unlocked yes, at least for GSM carriers. But the GSM carriers might not offer much support getting your device working.
CDMA carriers, like Verizon, might have the GSM side unlocked (i.e. you can pop an ATT or T-Mobile or other SIM in there and use it), but the CDMA side is LOCKED. Sprint, another CDMA carrier, has the GSM side SIM LOCKED on their 2013 X (XT1056)

KidJoe said:
Verizon uses the XT1060... IF the listing on Wikipedia are correct, the XT1050 and XT1060 use slightly different frequency for CDMA.
Not to mention, as @glarepate has already said, Verizon will not activate a device that isn't Verizon Branded.
IN the OP you say its SIM Unlocked, now you say you're not sure about the SIM??
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SIM unlocked = Carrier Unlocked yes, at least for GSM carriers. But the GSM carriers might not offer much support getting your device working.
CDMA carriers, like Verizon, might have the GSM side unlocked (i.e. you can pop an ATT or T-Mobile or other SIM in there and use it), but the CDMA side is LOCKED. Sprint, another CDMA carrier, has the GSM side SIM LOCKED on their 2013 X (XT1056)
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The verizon rep said it is carrier unlocked. All I know is that my step dad had it on alltel CDMA. Alltel just got bought out so that's a no go there. But the rep ask if i had a sim card, i was thinking maybe i could pop in a verizon one and it would work. Idk much about GSM but im gonna take it to a phone place in town tomorrow and see what they say.
Thanks for all of your replies

Josephdbrewer25 said:
The verizon rep said it is carrier unlocked. All I know is that my step dad had it on alltel CDMA. Alltel just got bought out so that's a no go there. But the rep ask if i had a sim card, i was thinking maybe i could pop in a verizon one and it would work. Idk much about GSM but im gonna take it to a phone place in town tomorrow and see what they say.
Thanks for all of your replies
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Verizon doesn't sell the XT1050, so I wouldn't put any faith into what they tell you. If its not a Verizon Branded Xt1060, they will not activate it on their service PERIOD.
Verizon still uses CDMA for voice and 3G data. So even if you put a Verizon 4GLTE SIM in there, it wont work.
The Verizon XT1060 is GSM Unlocked out of the box. (This is due to FCC C-Block Rules), so IF this was a Verizon XT1060, you could put a T-Mobile, ATT, Rogers, etc SIM in there and use the GSM side.
BUT you said this phone is an XT1050. So its not the same.
Good luck.

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Verizon doesn't sell the XT1050, so I wouldn't put any faith into what they tell you. If its not a Verizon Branded Xt1060, they will not activate it on their service PERIOD.
Verizon still uses CDMA for voice and 3G data. So even if you put a Verizon 4GLTE SIM in there, it wont work.
The Verizon XT1060 is GSM Unlocked out of the box. (This is due to FCC C-Block Rules), so IF this was a Verizon XT1060, you could put a T-Mobile, ATT, Rogers, etc SIM in there and use the GSM side.
BUT you said this phone is an XT1050. So its not the same.
Good luck.
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Well something weird happened while my X was in recovery mode. It was plugged into my laptop and it popped up up "Install drivers for your XT1060." Do they all say that or is mine just being stupid?
How can I determine what model of the X I have, I'm so confused about this phone man.

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Verizon will not activate any phones that aren't Verizon branded. That's what the rep. means by "unsupported".
Some CDMA MVNOs may support it, I haven't checked around to see. Chances are T-Mo or AT&T will. As noted by another poster he found a GSM carrier in Indonesia that it works with. Chances are any European carrier will too, but that won't help him at the moment.
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Can you tell me any other carriers inside the US, lol. I already checked with AT&t, got the same thing as with Verizon. Not sure about T-Mo, that's the only one I haven't checked that picks up where I live. I have a great phone and can't even activate it. It kinda sucks.
And one more thing, sorry if I'm being a pain but why couldn't I use a Verizon SIM in it and it'd work??

I have used my XT1050 on Verizon by swapping out the Sim. It is carrier unlocked. I was also able to unlock my bootloader using the Motorola website.
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Josephdbrewer25 said:
Can you tell me any other carriers inside the US, lol. I already checked with AT&t, got the same thing as with Verizon. Not sure about T-Mo, that's the only one I haven't checked that picks up where I live. I have a great phone and can't even activate it. It kinda sucks.
And one more thing, sorry if I'm being a pain but why couldn't I use a Verizon SIM in it and it'd work??
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By all means check with T-Mo. They are trying to get more customers and may be willing to work with you. They tend to be more flexible that AT&T anyway.
Ting uses Sprint (so that may not work for you if there is no coverage) and Cricket uses AT&T, both have BYOD.
https://ting.com/byod
https://www.cricketwireless.com/shop/byod.html
I know there are others but these are just off the top of my head.

zachw91 said:
I have used my XT1050 on Verizon by swapping out the Sim. It is carrier unlocked. I was also able to unlock my bootloader using the Motorola website.
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So all I gotta do is use a verizon sim in it?? I'm gonna try it. I'm just trying to figure out what the phone can be activated with, lol.

glarepate said:
By all means check with T-Mo. They are trying to get more customers and may be willing to work with you. They tend to be more flexible that AT&T anyway.
Ting uses Sprint (so that may not work for you if there is no coverage) and Cricket uses AT&T, both have BYOD.
https://ting.com/byod
https://www.cricketwireless.com/shop/byod.html
I know there are others but these are just off the top of my head.
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Sprint doesn't have coverage here, not sure about T-Mo. At&t gets coverage here now, they use to not.
The last carrier the phone was activated with was Alltel but they were bought out. I'll check and call around
Thanks everybody!!

Josephdbrewer25 said:
Well something weird happened while my X was in recovery mode. It was plugged into my laptop and it popped up up "Install drivers for your XT1060." Do they all say that or is mine just being stupid?
How can I determine what model of the X I have, I'm so confused about this phone man.
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THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.

KidJoe said:
THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
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I have the stock ROM installed but a custom recovery. It's the XT1050. This phone is weird lol

KidJoe said:
THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
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Hey @KidJoe, guess what? I called the postpaid department of Verizon and the lady told me that since my Moto X was on Alltel last that I could bring it to a store and they can put it in their system. I told her everything i knew about the phone. She said it can NOT be activated on prepaid BUT it can on postpaid. Got that same info from 2 or 3 other online support reps, lol.. So in that case you CAN activate NON verizon phones on Verizon.... oh AND I flashed the Verizon firmware on it and it works great.