I have a Moto X XT1050. Its suppose to be carrier unlocked but every one i try i get the same, they cant activate.
It was recently activated on Alltel but the were just bought out by at&t. Idk what carrier this phone will work under
Can anyone help??
From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
KidJoe said:
From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
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Ok so I called Verizon and the guy said it was carrier unlocked and they dont support it. I checked a few others through thier website but no luck.
The bootloader has been unlocked, the phone is rooted....the SIM I'm not sure about. It doesn't have SIM in it but it gets 2 bars of signal
KidJoe said:
From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
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So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
I used xt1050 in Indonesia use gsm carrier and it work fine. So i think my device is sim unlock
Josephdbrewer25 said:
So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
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Verizon will not activate any phones that aren't Verizon branded. That's what the rep. means by "unsupported".
Some CDMA MVNOs may support it, I haven't checked around to see. Chances are T-Mo or AT&T will. As noted by another poster he found a GSM carrier in Indonesia that it works with. Chances are any European carrier will too, but that won't help him at the moment.
At&t won't take it either. I don't get it. What's the point in an unlocked phone if nobody will take it??
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So even if I activate a Verizon SIM and put it in the phone it won't work??
And Verizon has activated a non branded before.
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Josephdbrewer25 said:
Ok so I called Verizon and the guy said it was carrier unlocked and they dont support it. I checked a few others through thier website but no luck.
The bootloader has been unlocked, the phone is rooted....the SIM I'm not sure about. It doesn't have SIM in it but it gets 2 bars of signal
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Verizon uses the XT1060... IF the listing on Wikipedia are correct, the XT1050 and XT1060 use slightly different frequency for CDMA.
Not to mention, as @glarepate has already said, Verizon will not activate a device that isn't Verizon Branded.
IN the OP you say its SIM Unlocked, now you say you're not sure about the SIM??
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Josephdbrewer25 said:
So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
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SIM unlocked = Carrier Unlocked yes, at least for GSM carriers. But the GSM carriers might not offer much support getting your device working.
CDMA carriers, like Verizon, might have the GSM side unlocked (i.e. you can pop an ATT or T-Mobile or other SIM in there and use it), but the CDMA side is LOCKED. Sprint, another CDMA carrier, has the GSM side SIM LOCKED on their 2013 X (XT1056)
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Verizon uses the XT1060... IF the listing on Wikipedia are correct, the XT1050 and XT1060 use slightly different frequency for CDMA.
Not to mention, as @glarepate has already said, Verizon will not activate a device that isn't Verizon Branded.
IN the OP you say its SIM Unlocked, now you say you're not sure about the SIM??
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SIM unlocked = Carrier Unlocked yes, at least for GSM carriers. But the GSM carriers might not offer much support getting your device working.
CDMA carriers, like Verizon, might have the GSM side unlocked (i.e. you can pop an ATT or T-Mobile or other SIM in there and use it), but the CDMA side is LOCKED. Sprint, another CDMA carrier, has the GSM side SIM LOCKED on their 2013 X (XT1056)
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The verizon rep said it is carrier unlocked. All I know is that my step dad had it on alltel CDMA. Alltel just got bought out so that's a no go there. But the rep ask if i had a sim card, i was thinking maybe i could pop in a verizon one and it would work. Idk much about GSM but im gonna take it to a phone place in town tomorrow and see what they say.
Thanks for all of your replies
Josephdbrewer25 said:
The verizon rep said it is carrier unlocked. All I know is that my step dad had it on alltel CDMA. Alltel just got bought out so that's a no go there. But the rep ask if i had a sim card, i was thinking maybe i could pop in a verizon one and it would work. Idk much about GSM but im gonna take it to a phone place in town tomorrow and see what they say.
Thanks for all of your replies
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Verizon doesn't sell the XT1050, so I wouldn't put any faith into what they tell you. If its not a Verizon Branded Xt1060, they will not activate it on their service PERIOD.
Verizon still uses CDMA for voice and 3G data. So even if you put a Verizon 4GLTE SIM in there, it wont work.
The Verizon XT1060 is GSM Unlocked out of the box. (This is due to FCC C-Block Rules), so IF this was a Verizon XT1060, you could put a T-Mobile, ATT, Rogers, etc SIM in there and use the GSM side.
BUT you said this phone is an XT1050. So its not the same.
Good luck.
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Verizon doesn't sell the XT1050, so I wouldn't put any faith into what they tell you. If its not a Verizon Branded Xt1060, they will not activate it on their service PERIOD.
Verizon still uses CDMA for voice and 3G data. So even if you put a Verizon 4GLTE SIM in there, it wont work.
The Verizon XT1060 is GSM Unlocked out of the box. (This is due to FCC C-Block Rules), so IF this was a Verizon XT1060, you could put a T-Mobile, ATT, Rogers, etc SIM in there and use the GSM side.
BUT you said this phone is an XT1050. So its not the same.
Good luck.
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Well something weird happened while my X was in recovery mode. It was plugged into my laptop and it popped up up "Install drivers for your XT1060." Do they all say that or is mine just being stupid?
How can I determine what model of the X I have, I'm so confused about this phone man.
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Verizon will not activate any phones that aren't Verizon branded. That's what the rep. means by "unsupported".
Some CDMA MVNOs may support it, I haven't checked around to see. Chances are T-Mo or AT&T will. As noted by another poster he found a GSM carrier in Indonesia that it works with. Chances are any European carrier will too, but that won't help him at the moment.
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Can you tell me any other carriers inside the US, lol. I already checked with AT&t, got the same thing as with Verizon. Not sure about T-Mo, that's the only one I haven't checked that picks up where I live. I have a great phone and can't even activate it. It kinda sucks.
And one more thing, sorry if I'm being a pain but why couldn't I use a Verizon SIM in it and it'd work??
I have used my XT1050 on Verizon by swapping out the Sim. It is carrier unlocked. I was also able to unlock my bootloader using the Motorola website.
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Josephdbrewer25 said:
Can you tell me any other carriers inside the US, lol. I already checked with AT&t, got the same thing as with Verizon. Not sure about T-Mo, that's the only one I haven't checked that picks up where I live. I have a great phone and can't even activate it. It kinda sucks.
And one more thing, sorry if I'm being a pain but why couldn't I use a Verizon SIM in it and it'd work??
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By all means check with T-Mo. They are trying to get more customers and may be willing to work with you. They tend to be more flexible that AT&T anyway.
Ting uses Sprint (so that may not work for you if there is no coverage) and Cricket uses AT&T, both have BYOD.
https://ting.com/byod
https://www.cricketwireless.com/shop/byod.html
I know there are others but these are just off the top of my head.
zachw91 said:
I have used my XT1050 on Verizon by swapping out the Sim. It is carrier unlocked. I was also able to unlock my bootloader using the Motorola website.
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So all I gotta do is use a verizon sim in it?? I'm gonna try it. I'm just trying to figure out what the phone can be activated with, lol.
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By all means check with T-Mo. They are trying to get more customers and may be willing to work with you. They tend to be more flexible that AT&T anyway.
Ting uses Sprint (so that may not work for you if there is no coverage) and Cricket uses AT&T, both have BYOD.
https://ting.com/byod
https://www.cricketwireless.com/shop/byod.html
I know there are others but these are just off the top of my head.
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Sprint doesn't have coverage here, not sure about T-Mo. At&t gets coverage here now, they use to not.
The last carrier the phone was activated with was Alltel but they were bought out. I'll check and call around
Thanks everybody!!
Josephdbrewer25 said:
Well something weird happened while my X was in recovery mode. It was plugged into my laptop and it popped up up "Install drivers for your XT1060." Do they all say that or is mine just being stupid?
How can I determine what model of the X I have, I'm so confused about this phone man.
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THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
KidJoe said:
THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
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I have the stock ROM installed but a custom recovery. It's the XT1050. This phone is weird lol
KidJoe said:
THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
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Hey @KidJoe, guess what? I called the postpaid department of Verizon and the lady told me that since my Moto X was on Alltel last that I could bring it to a store and they can put it in their system. I told her everything i knew about the phone. She said it can NOT be activated on prepaid BUT it can on postpaid. Got that same info from 2 or 3 other online support reps, lol.. So in that case you CAN activate NON verizon phones on Verizon.... oh AND I flashed the Verizon firmware on it and it works great.
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I just got off of the phone with a Sprint support rep in the International services department, and according to her the SIM slot in the Sprint version of the Moto X is unlocked from the factory.
Can anyone verify that this is true?
Bump, I'm interested very much too!
Any one confirm this?
Can Any one confirm this?
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That's the point, so Americans can use Sprint in the US, but when we travel just pop in an international sim.
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I contacted Sprint support, they said before using it in other networks (gsm/umts) you must activate international service (which unlocks gsm). mine was not activated and here in Russia I'm stuck - phone sees our carriers but can't register. and sprint support can't help me as the phone isn't online on sprint or smth like that. that's such a pain in the ass 'cause I've had a Sprint Photon 4G before and it worked without any "making love"
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I contacted Sprint support, they said before using it in other networks (gsm/umts) you must activate international service (which unlocks gsm). mine was not activated and here in Russia I'm stuck - phone sees our carriers but can't register. and sprint support can't help me as the phone isn't online on sprint or smth like that. that's such a pain in the ass 'cause I've had a Sprint Photon 4G before and it worked without any "making love"
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Is your phone displaying "Invalid SIM"? I might be having the same issue
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Is your phone displaying "Invalid SIM"? I might be having the same issue
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Yes, "INVALID CARD - NO SERVICE"
Yes same issue here. The unlock windows wont pop up.
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Moral of the story is to not buy a Sprint Moto X for anything other then Sprint. Do your research and buy a proper GSM version.
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Yes, "INVALID CARD - NO SERVICE"
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Thanks for your response, I feel relieved. Does this means that when i go back to the US i can activate for international use?
abdulhameed said:
Thanks for your response, I feel relieved. Does this means that when i go back to the US i can activate for international use?
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Yes, I think
alexh3791 said:
I just got off of the phone with a Sprint support rep in the International services department, and according to her the SIM slot in the Sprint version of the Moto X is unlocked from the factory.
Can anyone verify that this is true?
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Based on the many posts of people asking for how to SIM Unlock the Sprint Moto X, I'd say its not true.
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stanislavshulgin said:
I contacted Sprint support, they said before using it in other networks (gsm/umts) you must activate international service (which unlocks gsm). mine was not activated and here in Russia I'm stuck - phone sees our carriers but can't register. and sprint support can't help me as the phone isn't online on sprint or smth like that. that's such a pain in the ass 'cause I've had a Sprint Photon 4G before and it worked without any "making love"
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Interesting. This is the first i've heard of that. There were other reports/posts that if your phone has active sprint service/account, you can call sprint and get the sim unlock code. Nothing was said about needing to just add international service to the account for the phone to be unlocked.
In any case, the moral of the story seems to be what Steve-x posted... If you are NOT a Sprint Customer, don't buy a Sprint X for international use due to all the posts of troubles and what seems to be impossibilities getting them SIM Unlocked (you can't just pop a non-sprint sim in "out of the box", Sprint will only unlock if your their customer, it seems no online services have the unlock codes for sprint moto X, etc).
I'm looking to get a non contract moto X but am confused by all the versions. For instance, Republic sells it for $299.
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-x
Is that the same moto X sold for $349 on cyber Wednesday and Saturday at
http://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-shop-all/motorola-shop-all-sale.html
If different, what's the difference?
(**I need to be able to root the phone).
Thanks
Anderson2 said:
I'm looking to get a non contract moto X but am confused by all the versions. For instance, Republic sells it for $299.
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-x
Is that the same moto X sold for $349 on cyber Wednesday and Saturday at
http://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-shop-all/motorola-shop-all-sale.html
If different, what's the difference?
(**I need to be able to root the phone).
Thanks
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Republic wireless phone only works with republic wireless.
Start with your carrier then go from there. If GSM and you NEED root i suggest t-mobile or dev edition so u can unlock bootloader and always guarantee root.
What carrier are you on? As the other guy said, if you have a GSM carrier (AT&T, tmobile, other mvno's of those carriers), then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. If you have verizon, then get the CDMA dev edition.
aooga said:
then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. .
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Sorry for jacking the thread... but does the T-mo version work on AT&T LTE?
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Sorry for jacking the thread... but does the T-mo version work on AT&T LTE?
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What carrier are you on? As the other guy said, if you have a GSM carrier (AT&T, tmobile, other mvno's of those carriers), then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. If you have verizon, then get the CDMA dev edition.
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I want it as a non contract phone. Currently I'm on straighttalk and they have a system where you buy a sim from them. But I may go elsewhere. I'm debating between a moto X or a nexus 5.
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I want it as a non contract phone. Currently I'm on straighttalk and they have a system where you buy a sim from them. But I may go elsewhere. I'm debating between a moto X or a nexus 5.
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Then get a tmobile version. Sim and bootloader unlocked, so you can use it on straigttalk or att or any of those other mvno's.
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Then get a tmobile version. Sim and bootloader unlocked, so you can use it on straigttalk or att or any of those other mvno's.
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Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating questions, but I'm not from the US.
So I'm not too familiar with mobile phones being locked and sim locked and things like these.
My question is, I'm thinking of bringing a Moto X into Singapore for my daily use.
Just wondering, according to all the above comments, I should bring in a T-Mobile version instead since sim and bootloader is not locked to any carrier?
And I got one more question
All these different carrier version, the radios are the same? or do they all differ slightly? I'm asking because in Singapore, I think the radios here are a little different from the US
savagedp said:
Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating questions, but I'm not from the US.
So I'm not too familiar with mobile phones being locked and sim locked and things like these.
My question is, I'm thinking of bringing a Moto X into Singapore for my daily use.
Just wondering, according to all the above comments, I should bring in a T-Mobile version instead since sim and bootloader is not locked to any carrier?
And I got one more question
All these different carrier version, the radios are the same? or do they all differ slightly? I'm asking because in Singapore, I think the radios here are a little different from the US
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The radios all differ slightly. And yes, you should get the tmobile one since it's sim unlocked. I don't know the bands of your carrier, so you might have to look it up and compare it with the US bands.
Ok just checked. Seems like only 3G will work in Singapore. LTE here is band 3 and 7. whereas T-mobile seems to be just on band 4.
So I've been searching around, and some people say that AT&Ts LTE works perfectly, but some say that there is a missing band
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I have seen several posts on flashing XT1053(retail/tmobile/developer) firmware on XT1058(AT&T/Rogers/etc) hardware. I believe most people were only doing the OS though and not the entire flash(including the radio/modem)
The XT1053 is FCC ID ihdt56pa2 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 1700/850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04 and 17
The XT1058 is FCC ID ihdt56pa1 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04,05 and 17
So the differences are that the XT1053 supports wcdma 1700 and the XT1058 supports LTE band 05.
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But on the CyanogenMod page about the devices, they have the exact same bands:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1053_Info
So the reason I'm choosing the Tmobile X over the native ATT one is because ATT locked the bootloader, and has ugly logos on the phone, plus bloatware. Unlocked bootloader is the main thing. I'm not getting the developer edition because I really want to customize my phone .
So, can SOMEONE confirm if you can use E/3G/4G/LTE on the TMobile Moto X?
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So I've been searching around, and some people say that AT&Ts LTE works perfectly, but some say that there is a missing band
But on the CyanogenMod page about the devices, they have the exact same bands:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1053_Info
So the reason I'm choosing the Tmobile X over the native ATT one is because ATT locked the bootloader, and has ugly logos on the phone, plus bloatware. Unlocked bootloader is the main thing. I'm not getting the developer edition because I really want to customize my phone .
So, can SOMEONE confirm if you can use E/3G/4G/LTE on the TMobile Moto X?
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I can confirm that the "T-Mobile" Moto X (XT1053) works 100% on AT&T 3G and LTE. I am using this model on AT&T's GoPhone service without any issues, both 3G HSPA+ and LTE work fine.
It is true that the XT1053 model is "missing" an LTE band (Band 5) -- however, AT&T does NOT use this band in the United States (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas), and the T-Mobile version has Bands 4 and 17 that AT&T uses in the U.S. So, if you're using AT&T in the U.S., the T-Mobile XT1053 model will work fine on LTE.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Moto X's IMEI will not be automatically provisioned by AT&T for LTE access since it's not an AT&T branded phone (AT&T's network assumes that non-AT&T phones are "dumbphones" that only work with HSPA+) -- you'll need to provide them with an IMEI of an AT&T LTE phone to get LTE access. This was confusing to me at first, because when I first activated my Moto X on the AT&T network I only could connect to HSPA+. I eventually had to go to an AT&T store, write down the IMEI of a Galaxy Note 2 floor model (but any LTE phone in the store would work), and give that IMEI to AT&T. After that, LTE worked perfectly.
Hope this helps!
James
Jimbogiant said:
One thing to keep in mind is that the Moto X's IMEI will not be automatically provisioned by AT&T for LTE access since it's not an AT&T branded phone (AT&T's network assumes that non-AT&T phones are "dumbphones" that only work with HSPA+) -- you'll need to provide them with an IMEI of an AT&T LTE phone to get LTE access. This was confusing to me at first, because when I first activated my Moto X on the AT&T network I only could connect to HSPA+. I eventually had to go to an AT&T store, write down the IMEI of a Galaxy Note 2 floor model (but any LTE phone in the store would work), and give that IMEI to AT&T. After that, LTE worked perfectly
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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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I've never had to give them a fake IEMI. I just had to call and give them the one from my phone, and they then added LTE to it.
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I've never had to give them a fake IEMI. I just had to call and give them the one from my phone, and they then added LTE to it.
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So I can take the IMEI from my iPhone (LTE), call AT&T up tell them I have a phone that supports LTE, but it's only getting 3G? What am I supposed to say?
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So I can take the IMEI from my iPhone (LTE), call AT&T up tell them I have a phone that supports LTE, but it's only getting 3G? What am I supposed to say?
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Just call them. Say you aren't getting LTE and want to see what's wrong. They'll ask for the IEMI, and provision it. In a fringe scenario, they'll ask you to goto a store and get a new SIM card, where they'll do the same thing and read the IEMI.
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Just call them. Say you aren't getting LTE and want to see what's wrong. They'll ask for the IEMI, and provision it. In a fringe scenario, they'll ask you to goto a store and get a new SIM card, where they'll do the same thing and read the IEMI.
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They provisioned mine at the store as I needed a new nano sim card. I had a gophone HSPA+ account with my Nexus 4 and they added the IEMI from the Moto X to my account, changed my plan to an LTE plan and I got LTE on the Moto X. Took 5 minutes.
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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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No one is "faking" IMEIs or doing anything illegal. I'm sure people's experiences will differ from one store to the next, I'm just telling you what I had to do.
When I first got my Moto X, LTE did not work. I tried calling AT&T's customer support, and they told me my phone was "unsupported by the network," which is a huge pile of BS. So, I went to my local AT&T store and told a rep what was going on. He said "I'll be right back," grabbed a Galaxy Note 2 from a display, and wrote down its IMEI. He punched that into the system and voilá, the Moto X's LTE worked and it's been great ever since.
This was back in September, so maybe AT&T automatically recognizes Moto X IMEIs and provisions them for LTE. If not, just go in to a store and they'll get it figured out for you.
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Anybody know if my microcell from atnt will work with the Tmobile version of the moto x?
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No one is "faking" IMEIs or doing anything illegal. I'm sure people's experiences will differ from one store to the next, I'm just telling you what I had to do.
When I first got my Moto X, LTE did not work. I tried calling AT&T's customer support, and they told me my phone was "unsupported by the network," which is a huge pile of BS. So, I went to my local AT&T store and told a rep what was going on. He said "I'll be right back," grabbed a Galaxy Note 2 from a display, and wrote down its IMEI. He punched that into the system and voilá, the Moto X's LTE worked and it's been great ever since.
This was back in September, so maybe AT&T automatically recognizes Moto X IMEIs and provisions them for LTE. If not, just go in to a store and they'll get it figured out for you.
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Did you account not already have an LTE device on it? I plan on switching my sim from an already LTE device.
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Did you account not already have an LTE device on it? I plan on switching my sim from an already LTE device.
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I activated a brand new account with the Moto X, so I didn't already have an LTE device on it like you do. I bet yours will work right out of the gate. I wasn't trying to scare you or imply that your phone wasn't going to work, but I wanted to let you know of the possibility of that happening and what to do if it did happen. Having been in the same situation you will be in (using AT&T on a T-Mobile Moto X), I just wanted you to have all the info.
I'm definitely not the only one to have run into a similar issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45965273&postcount=169 . This was a reply from someone helping me out w/ the LTE issue when I first got the phone in September:
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Mine works on AT&T LTE out of the box. You might have to try several things: call CS and make sure your IMEI is in the system. This should update and provision your account for LTE hopefully, though sometimes they don't recognize non-AT&T phones. Make sure to shut off your phone, go outside where it's clear and reboot after they do that as it needs to a very clear signal to latch onto the tower for the first time for LTE. If that doesn't work, you need to call CS and make sure you get Tech Support and basically geek out to one of them (about how you know what bands it has and what an APN is and double check you've got the correct one, etc) as they'll have to do all sorts of things to possibly get it to work. I finally had to use my old AT&T LTE phone IMEI and keep that on the account to keep it correctly provisioned. Weird, but just my experience.
It does work though on AT&T LTE.
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Thank you everyone! Looks like I'm getting a T-Mobile X.
I got one today, more worried about it not connecting to my microcell. 32 gb Super stoked!!!
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Are most of you planning on getting a new nano sim or are you just going to cut yours down from a larger size?
I have an S4 right now which has a micro-sim. So I was thinking of cutting it down to a nano sim. Anyone done this?
I'm a little confused now on this IMEI stuff. I've got a GS3 (i747) on AT&T right now w/ LTE. I've purchased a XT1053 (T-Mobile variant of moto x).
When it comes next week and I go in to get a nano sim card will they give me a hard time because they'll want to register the IMEI of the Moto X and it won't be in their DB?
I also want to sell my i747 on swappa, but swappa you're supposed to unregister any devices from your account first right? So don't I need to remove the IMEI of my i747 from my account and have the Moto X IMEI registered then?
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I'm a little confused now on this IMEI stuff. I've got a GS3 (i747) on AT&T right now w/ LTE. I've purchased a XT1053 (T-Mobile variant of moto x).
When it comes next week and I go in to get a nano sim card will they give me a hard time because they'll want to register the IMEI of the Moto X and it won't be in their DB?
I also want to sell my i747 on swappa, but swappa you're supposed to unregister any devices from your account first right? So don't I need to remove the IMEI of my i747 from my account and have the Moto X IMEI registered then?
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From the sounds of it, my information from earlier in the thread may be outdated. I had the IMEI issues back in September, but from what I can gather now (and based on my experience with the Nexus 5), I think AT&T's IMEI database has been updated to automatically provision new unlocked phones to LTE.
I would just take your Moto X into an AT&T store when you get it and try it with its own IMEI -- if LTE doesn't work, just ask one of the reps if they have a placeholder LTE-enabled IMEI they could punch in instead, this is what they did for me back in September.
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Are most of you planning on getting a new nano sim or are you just going to cut yours down from a larger size?
I have an S4 right now which has a micro-sim. So I was thinking of cutting it down to a nano sim. Anyone done this?
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I've cut down a micro SIM to a nano SIM with no problems. AT&T will give you a nano SIM for free if you walk into a store and ask for one though.
Great info guys. I'm planning to get the T-Mobile Moto X myself to use on AT&T, do I need to unlock the phone? and how do you do that?
The T-Mo version is not Sim locked, so you'll be fine. Sounds like you'll need to talk to AT&T to get LTE access, though.
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The T-Mo version is not Sim locked, so you'll be fine. Sounds like you'll need to talk to AT&T to get LTE access, though.
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I already have a Galaxy S3 with LTE enabled, all I need to do is to cut the sim card right? to have LTE on T-Mobile Moto X
I'm not sure how that works... Is it really as simple as swapping the Sim card? I just got a T-Mo Moto X to replace the AT&T version I've been using on T-Mo prepaid and I thought I'd at least have to register the new IMEI before I could use it.
EDIT: Well I just successfully swapped my sim into a new T-Mo Moto X and it connected right away to LTE. So that answers that. No need to call or otherwise notify T-Mo. The above discussion suggests it may be more complicated on AT&T, though.
I am a Rodgers subscriber and have purchased a used Sprint Moto X. I have unlocked it so I could just put in a SIM and go. Is this my best option or should/can I flash this with custom firmware, updated Sprint firmware (KitKat), or switch over to Rogers firmware. Any other Sprint Moto X users in Canada out there? Current software is 161.44.32.ghost_Sprint.en.US
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I am a Rodgers subscriber and have purchased a used Sprint Moto X. I have unlocked it so I could just put in a SIM and go. Is this my best option or should/can I flash this with custom firmware, updated Sprint firmware (KitKat), or switch over to Rogers firmware. Any other Sprint Moto X users in Canada out there? Current software is 161.44.32.ghost_Sprint.en.US
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Were you able to sim unlock your Sprint Moto X ?? How did you do that?
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Were you able to sim unlock your Sprint Moto X ?? How did you do that?
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I was under the impression that the unlock of the phone would allow any SIM to be put in. The point of unlocking the phone would be to allow a person to take a phone and use it with any other provider. I do not have the right size SIM to put in but the phone is connected to the Rodgers network right now and I can dial 911 (emergency dial). It could be that I do not understand the definition of unlock and now have a phone I can still only use with Sprint.....
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I was under the impression that the unlock of the phone would allow any SIM to be put in. The point of unlocking the phone would be to allow a person to take a phone and use it with any other provider. I do not have the right size SIM to put in but the phone is connected to the Rodgers network right now and I can dial 911 (emergency dial). It could be that I do not understand the definition of unlock and now have a phone I can still only use with Sprint.....
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If you went to the Motorola site and did their unlock procedure.... Then you unlocked the boot loader. That won't let you use the phone on another carrier. Unlocking boot loader would be done with fast boot.
If you sim unlocked....you would have had a code from sprint....or somewhere, and when you put the other carrier sim card in....it would ask you for a code, and you would enter the code.
What exactly did you do???
Just the bootloader, should have done more research. There are sites that suggest for a small fee the sim can be unlocked. Can they unlock sprint phones or am I going to have to sell it?
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Just the bootloader, should have done more research. There are sites that suggest for a small fee the sim can be unlocked. Can they unlock sprint phones or am I going to have to sell it?
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I may be wrong, but since there's an unlock sprint sim bounty thread....I am pretty sure those sites can't unlock sprint moto x's.
Sorry!!!
No the bounty threads are to unlock the bootloader. As for Sim unlocking, I don't know anything about it related to CDMA network.
According to Wikipedia, Rogers is a GSM network. Sprint is a CDMA network. Therefore the Sprint Moto X will not work with Rogers, unless I'm missing something. There is an exception that Verizon phones are world phones which mean they support CDMA, but their newer phones also have the radio to support GSM, which means their phone are GSM unlocked to work for GSM networks outside of US (from what I understand they prevent it from working with GSM carriers within US unless you sim unlock it).
Sorry but the Sprint Moto X won't work with Rogers network. You just need to buy a GSM unlocked Moto X (xt1053) and stick the sim in, then enter the Rogers APN information. You can also get an unlocked ATT Moto X (xt1058) or presumably a Verizon Moto X.
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No the bounty threads are to unlock the bootloader. As for Sim unlocking, I don't know anything about it related to CDMA network.
According to Wikipedia, Rogers is a GSM network. Sprint is a CDMA network. Therefore the Sprint Moto X will not work with Rogers, unless I'm missing something. There is an exception that Verizon phones are world phones which mean they support CDMA, but their newer phones also have the radio to support GSM, which means their phone are GSM unlocked to work for GSM networks outside of US (from what I understand they prevent it from working with GSM carriers within US unless you sim unlock it).
Sorry but the Sprint Moto X won't work with Rogers network. You just need to buy a GSM unlocked Moto X (xt1053) and stick the sim in, then enter the Rogers APN information. You can also get an unlocked ATT Moto X (xt1058) or presumably a Verizon Moto X.
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Bounty threads are all the rage for the X.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729744
Sprint phones can't be sim unlocked. So buying one to use on another carrier isn't really an option.
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Bounty threads are all the rage for the X.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729744
Sprint phones can't be sim unlocked. So buying one to use on another carrier isn't really an option.
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You say that buying Sprint Moto X isn't option but there is some way to unlock Moto X because there is solutions for Sprint HTC One, Sprint LG G2, Sprint Galaxy S4 and etc so it's don't be hard to make solution to unlock Sprint Moto X too so maybe there could be found developers who will do it I have hope.
P.S. and one news I PM ysabxe for information progress on this project but he say that this thread is not actual for him more I thin cause nobody send him that files what he needed for unlock he need already unlocked Moto X TWRP backup.
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No the bounty threads are to unlock the bootloader. As for Sim unlocking, I don't know anything about it related to CDMA network.
According to Wikipedia, Rogers is a GSM network. Sprint is a CDMA network. Therefore the Sprint Moto X will not work with Rogers, unless I'm missing something. There is an exception that Verizon phones are world phones which mean they support CDMA, but their newer phones also have the radio to support GSM, which means their phone are GSM unlocked to work for GSM networks outside of US (from what I understand they prevent it from working with GSM carriers within US unless you sim unlock it).
Sorry but the Sprint Moto X won't work with Rogers network. You just need to buy a GSM unlocked Moto X (xt1053) and stick the sim in, then enter the Rogers APN information. You can also get an unlocked ATT Moto X (xt1058) or presumably a Verizon Moto X.
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Don't trust Wikipedia. Just like the verizon X, the sprint X supports at least quad band gsm for global roaming, which are the same gsm frequencies also used in North America. (I haven't looked into the other frequencies the sprint x supports).
The problem comes in that the Sprint X is sim locked to only use their Sims. You can only get the sim unlock code from sprint directly, no 3rd party sellers seem to have them. Sprint will only give it if you are a current customer, with the X active on your line, and other condiitions are met.... So if you buy a used Sprint Moto X that hasn't been sim unlocked, you are screwed. But if you buy one that has been sim unlocked, you'll be able to get at least basic gsm.
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You say that buying Sprint Moto X isn't option but there is some way to unlock Moto X because there is solutions for Sprint HTC One, Sprint LG G2, Sprint Galaxy S4 and etc so it's don't be hard to make solution to unlock Sprint Moto X too so maybe there could be found developers who will do it I have hope.
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Because other phones can, you must be able to on X.... Unfortunately that is faulty logic.
For whatever reason, the only way to sim unlock a Sprint Moto X has been to be a current Sprint customer and get the code from them. For all the posts on XDA asking for Sprint X sim unlock code for those who are no longer Sprint customers, no one has found a way. None of the 3rd party code sellers have a way.
Because other phones can, you must be able to on X.... Unfortunately that is faulty logic.
For whatever reason, the only way to sim unlock a Sprint Moto X has been to be a current Sprint customer and get the code from them. For all the posts on XDA asking for Sprint X sim unlock code for those who are no longer Sprint customers, no one has found a way. None of the 3rd party code sellers have a way.
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If you are active user look unlocking steps there is always used omadm.apk on Sprint HTC one and Sprint LG G2 so there is way to unlock Sprint X too but need already sprint customer who already have unlocked their Sprint X and need files from already unlocked Sprint X ysabxe was asking make backup and link it on dropbox or some cloud but nobody did it. so it doesn't mean that it is impossible to unlock Sprint X
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If you are active user look unlocking steps there is always used omadm.apk on Sprint HTC one and Sprint LG G2 so there is way to unlock Sprint X too but need already sprint customer who already have unlocked their Sprint X and need files from already unlocked Sprint X ysabxe was asking make backup and link it on dropbox or some cloud but nobody did it. so it doesn't mean that it is impossible to unlock Sprint X
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Again, you're assuming the same method and software used to SIM unlock phones by other makers is how its done on the X too.
While it may not be impossible, I would say its improbable... The X has been out since August yet with all the requests by those looking to SIM unlock the Sprint X, as of today, no one has posted a way to do it, other than be an active sprint customer and request the code from them.
So, i've been trying to help @Wile_e with his xt1250 let me start from the beginning.
he bought an XT1250 for Cellcom, He wants to use GSM while he is on Finland and Wants to use CDMA on verizon on USA.
Actually he is trying to use with Carrier Saunalahti the carrier uses 900/1800/2100 GSM bands and those are supported by Droid Turbo/ Moto Maxx.
For some reason when he pops in the sim card he says it cant found any networks, but he puts it in on a RAZR I and it works.
I made him look into Global mode and GSM/LTE, also nothing.
First thing i made him do was, Unlock the bootloader.
Then i made him install the unbranded Firmware for XT1250.
He did that, nothing changed, no networks detected.
Then i made him flash droid turbo radio, same nothing happened and lost wifi, so, thats not a way.
so im thinking as xt1250 is closer to moto maxx, recommend him flash moto maxx kitkat radio, but im afraid it will lose the CDMA properties.
im also thinking into flashing full lollipop but that would make him not come back to stock xt1250 firmware due to gt.bin updating.
i also remember someone said that moto turbo firmware and radio had both options but im not sure.
what do you guys think will be a good solution?
invoking the help of @chazzmat , @Semseddin , @Skrilax_CZ
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The way my Moto Maxx was locked to Claro until the dealer unlocked it, could be something similar? Can an online service "unlock" it for him?
I was thinking last night we tried to use the XT1250 original with the Droid Turbo radio. What if we used the radio from cyanogenmod? I imagine that team has unlocked all radios, no?
I think it is not globally unlocked like like XT1254 since it has the basic gsm bands for sure.
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The way my Moto Maxx was locked to Claro until the dealer unlocked it, could be something similar? Can an online service "unlock" it for him?
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I think it is not globally unlocked like like XT1254 since it has the basic gsm bands for sure.
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This phone definitely works with Verizon (many, many people have proved this) -- but this specific carrier (Cellcom) may have locked the global capabilities. Just needs to be unlocked.
How to Unlock Motorola Phones
http://www.wikihow.com/Unlock-Motorola-Phones-with-Windows
When you buy a new mobile phone you will probably get a good deal by signing up with a service provider at the same time. To make sure you stick with the plan, your service provider will lock your phone, making it impossible to use the phone with other providers or take advantage of the full GSM capabilities of your handset when traveling the world. Nor will you be able to use your sim card in other phones, or other sim cards in your phone. Unlocking the phone gets rid of these limitations and allows you to use multiple sim cards and multiple providers on your phone, in addition to greatly increasing the resale value of the phone.
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http://www.cellcom.com/unlocking-devices.html said:
Unlocking Devices
Cellcom does not lock most devices, including devices that were released after February 2015. Our devices are typically not programmed with locks or unique service programming codes, so there is no need to perform any "unlocking". "Unlocking" a device refers only to disabling software that would prevent a consumer from attempting to activate a device designed for one carrier's network on another carrier's network, even if that network is technologically compatible.
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This is from cellcom page
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Well, the phone was released before Februrary 2015, and they say "most".
Something is blocking the GSM.
I still haven't heard that he changed to LTE/GSM from LTE/CDMA/GSM. I know he wants to use CDMA in U.S. but for now change it just to see...
Also haven't heard that he manually chose an APN.
Those were my other two suggestions...
Then there's the unlocking thing to try, even if Cellcom claims it's not locked.
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Well, the phone was released before Februrary 2015, and they say "most".
Something is blocking the GSM.
I still haven't heard that he changed to LTE/GSM from LTE/CDMA/GSM. I know he wants to use CDMA in U.S. but for now change it just to see...
Also haven't heard that he manually chose an APN.
Those were my other two suggestions...
Then there's the unlocking thing to try, even if Cellcom claims it's not locked.
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he already did the apn things and band stuff. maybe the phone its from the last year so not yet unlocked?
Yes I've tried all suggestions, sorry for not posting earlier about it. I suppose I could try the unlocking, don't see a downside to trying. But wouldn't flashing a new ROM/Radio bypass that lock anyway?
I'm going to attempt contacting the carrier for an unlock code, but I am not too hopeful as I am not a customer of theirs. In the event they say no, does anybody know of a reputable imei unlocking company? I'd prefer not to trust the first one in my google results. Thanks!
Swiftunlocks.com
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Radio is likely not to be compatible, since there is actual HW difference (you can flash the radio from Brazil XT1225, and in build.prop under /system change ro.fsg-id from "lra" to "singlela"), same thing needs to be done when using verizon radio I think, but unsure if that doesn't have the XT1250 LRA bundled with itself. You can switch to VZW radio if you change ro.fsg-id from "lra' to "verizon". To play with ro.fsg-id, check the files under /fsg - then the radio will select the one in format as: quark_XXXX_N.img.gz, where N is just some number and it XXXX is what's under your ro.fsg-id.
You can try lollipop for VZW freely with unlocked bootloader, since not being to able to downgrade bootloader / gpt.bin isn't a big deal with that (just be careful not to re-lock your device or apply OTA after downgrade).
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Thanks but unfortunately the Moto Maxx is not listed as one of their phones that can be unlocked. And not surprising no other imei unlocker that I've found has it listed as an un-lockable device.
If that was good enough news, here's some more.
From a discussion with Cellcom today:
Cellcom: There is no way to unlock it with our system. The process cannot be reversed if it was locked. Our company does not have that ability.
Looks like I am scrod, unless I can navigate the unlocking process manually.
I believe in what Cellcom told to you, You might try your luck contacting motorola usa - white gloves deparment. Btw did you try another foreign simcard from another operator in your maxx ? (assuming the simcard is broken)
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I believe in what Cellcom told to you, You might try your luck contacting motorola usa - white gloves deparment. Btw did you try another foreign simcard from another operator in your maxx ? (assuming the simcard is broken)
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I haven't tried another SIM but I do use this SIM currently in my other phone, the Moto RAZR I. I also used this same SIM in my Droid Turbo when it was still alive. So I don't think it's the SIM card.
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Thanks but unfortunately the Moto Maxx is not listed as one of their phones that can be unlocked. And not surprising no other imei unlocker that I've found has it listed as an un-lockable device.
If that was good enough news, here's some more.
From a discussion with Cellcom today:
Cellcom: There is no way to unlock it with our system. The process cannot be reversed if it was locked. Our company does not have that ability.
Looks like I am scrod, unless I can navigate the unlocking process manually.
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I wish they could give you a clear answer if it's locked or not.
That's the only reason I can come up with at the moment.
By law U.S. carriers are required to unlock phones so you can use on other carriers.
I would remind them of that, see if it motivates them to help you.
It appears I have come to a dead end. We have exhausted all suggestions here as well as all ideas that have arisen in-between. Thanks to all that offered support, especially @Jaocagomez. It is all appreciated.
When I head back Stateside I will be selling this phone and picking up another Droid Turbo.
Cheers.
Actually there's a thing that doesn't seem right. I've just noticed on the screens (in the other thread) that it does not recognise that the SIM is inserted, while if it's a carrier lock, it should usually recognise inserted SIM but refuse to register on the network. I wonder if there's actual hardware problem with reading the SIM card.
btw. Anyway I'd recommend buying XT1225 over XT1254, works just fine with Sonera and and supports all their 4G bands, and so it does in US for AT&T.
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Actually there's a thing that doesn't seem right. I've just noticed on the screens (in the other thread) that it does not recognise that the SIM is inserted, while if it's a carrier lock, it should usually recognise inserted SIM but refuse to register on the network. I wonder if there's actual hardware problem with reading the SIM card.
btw. Anyway I'd recommend buying XT1225 over XT1254, works just fine with Sonera and and supports all their 4G bands, and so it does in US for AT&T.
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No it does recognize the SIM is inserted, but cannot connect to any tower. I've taken some screenshots with the SIM unloaded as I still need to communicate (via my Razr I).
Unfortunately I need the CDMA portion of the XT1254, this is why I took such a gamble on the XT1250. Where I work in NY Verizon (CDMA) is the strongest signal by far.
The odd part is we're switching our service from Saunalahti to Elisa, and for a moment I inserted the yet-to-be activated SIM into my XT1250 and for a moment it recognized Sonera and Elisa's networks. But I couldn't do anything since the SIM was not activated. It might have been a fluke, but it gave me hope for a bit longer.
I still cannot understand how I can unlock the bootloader, re flash new ROMs, update the radios but still have the GSM bands 'locked'. This should be solvable. I just don't have the knowledge in this field to go any further, but this still feels to me like something is missing. It kills me to give up on this handset.
Ah I see. It still doesn't make much sense. Moto used to only lock other US carriers. Hmm anyway I wonder if you happen to have your IMEI blacklisted on Saunalahti / Elisa (more info: http://asiakastuki.elisa.fi/ohje/8/ ).
Also radio is separate from unlocking the bootloader, signature is enforcef there despite unlocking the boooader, for security & certification reasons. That's why it still doesn't help if it's sim locked.