I have a unlocked moto x that I am trying to use with a sprint sim card. anyone know how I can get this to work
You will need to be more specific on which Moto X you have. However if it isn't a factory Sprint Moto X I think the chances of it working are extremely slim. Sprint uses CDMA, a normal unlocked Moto X uses GSM.
This is unlocked from Motorola
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Well you didn't answer the question at all so its tough to help. The long and short of it is that if you want to use a Moto X with Sprint you need to buy the Sprint version.
I guess I didn't realize Motorola sold more than one type of unlocked moto x. I knew they sold locked ones for each service provider but my understanding was that the developer edition moto x was the only one you could purchase from motorola unlocked...
Sprint doesn't have a developer edition. Only VZW and AT&T make those available to be purchased.
Verizon and Sprint use a different phone technology than other phone companies, called CDMA. To use a phone on those companies, you need a phone with built in support for their CDMA service. CDMA doesn't support removable SIM cards or changing carriers (or even changing phones, without having the carrier switch service to the new phone).
Some (many) phones on those services can also be used on the more common GSM phones services, because both Sprint and Verizon are new using that technology for data. That's where "unlocked" comes in. If you get the unlocked version of a CDMA phone you can use it on other (GSM) carriers. Sprint tend to only unlock phones for international use, not for use by their competitors. I'm less familiar with Verizon.
Either way, to use a phone on Sprint (or on Verizon) you generally need to buy a phone earmarked for that carrier. That is true of the Moto X.
If you can still return that phone, you should do so.
I wonder if the "No Contact" or "Off Contract" $399 Moto X is GSM unlocked for international use or US only?
Can someone please confirm?
Thanks
Unlocked is unlocked.
Its unlocked for anything.....or its not unlocked ....there's no in between.
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Depends which lock you are talking about: bootloader, radio, or SIM.
Dev Edition, Rogers/AT&T model XT1058 have unlockable bootloaders.
Rogers/AT&T radio is not locked. I believe the Verizon version is so won't work on other US carriers. But they will all work on non-US carriers.
And they are all SIM locked, but easy to unlock.
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Depends which lock you are talking about: bootloader, radio, or SIM.
Dev Edition, Rogers/AT&T model XT1058 have unlockable bootloaders.
Rogers/AT&T radio is not locked. I believe the Verizon version is so won't work on other US carriers. But they will all work on non-US carriers.
And they are all SIM locked, but easy to unlock.
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Are you sure about those models? I think the TMO can be unlocked, not the AT&T. This is what the official Moto X website says.
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Depends which lock you are talking about: bootloader, radio, or SIM.
Dev Edition, Rogers/AT&T model XT1058 have unlockable bootloaders.
Rogers/AT&T radio is not locked. I believe the Verizon version is so won't work on other US carriers. But they will all work on non-US carriers.
And they are all SIM locked, but easy to unlock.
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That is not accurate.
You mention ATT has an unlockable bootloader. Unfortunately the Retail and MotoMaker version for ATT and Verizon have locked bootloaders which can not be unlocked, along with a few other carriers. The codes are not available from Moto's web site, and there is no other path to unlock those bootloaders. The VZW Dev Edition X can have its bootloader unlocked.
As for the Verizon version sim locked and working on other carriers.. The Verizon version (retail, motomaker and dev) is NOT "radio locked" nor is it sim locked, so it will work with a Non-Verizon GSM SIM. Depending on the frequencies of your carrier, the Verizon version will work for GSM/GPRS/EDGE, and possibly work for HSPA/HSPA+, and in some rare cases even LTE can work. It just depends on the bands/frequencies your carrier uses, compared to those supported by the X. I've posted about my VZW X working using my T-Mobile US sim, as have a few others. And I've seen posts of VZW X with ATT sim working.
The ATT version is SIM locked, and you need the unlock codes to use a Non-ATT SIM.
As for all being easy to SIM Unlock, it should be noted that when it comes to the Sprint Moto X, it is sim locked, and Sprint will give SIM Unlock code only if you are a current Sprint Customer with the X on your line/account. No 3rd party places that sell unlock codes have them for sprint moto X. So if the phone is not active on Sprint Service, you wont be able to get a SIM Unlock code for it. But I believe you are correct that any other X which is SIM locked should be "easy" to purchase or otherwise obtain the SIM Unlock codes.
T-Mobile X has an unlockable bootloader. But unlike the Dev Edition, unlocking the bootloader on the MotoMaker for T-Mobile version voids the warranty. The T-Mobile X is also SIM Unlocked out of the box.
I can't comment on Rogers or others.
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I wonder if the "No Contact" or "Off Contract" $399 Moto X is GSM unlocked for international use or US only?
Can someone please confirm?
Thanks
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Where are you looking? If you buy a "USA carrier branded" X off Moto Maker, or directly from a carrier it will very likely be SIM locked even if its "no contract." The exception being T-Mobile and Verizon which I know are not sim locked, and will work for USA and Non-USA GSM service (depending on the frequencies of the carrier you will be using... it could be as slow as EDGE, or as fast as HSPA+ or LTE).
I'm thinking of buying a used "unlocked" Sprint Moto X from someone local.
1. Is it possible / easy to root it & flash custom ROMs?
2. Is it true that it supports GSM as well as CDMA? E.g., could I use it with Sprint locally, and then with a GSM card overseas?
thanks
Sprint X can have its bootloader unlocked. If it isn't already unlocked, you can request the code from Moto's web site. NOTE: this does void the warranty, then again, the warranty paperwork says the warranty is non-transferable, so buying one used means no warranty anyway.
Once the bootloader is unlocked, you can easily root it. Follow this -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
as for GSM side... The Sprint X is sim locked, and you can only get the sim unlock code from Sprint, and only if the phone is on a currently active account and met their conditions. 3rd Party SIM unlock is not available.
I think the Sprint X supports quad band GSM. I'm not sure about its UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ abilities.
SIM unlock for Page Plus
I am currently using a Sprint Moto X on Page Plus but cannot get the data to work. I read that it get it APN info from the SIM card. Does this mean I would require a SIM unlock to use data with Page Plus?
Thanks
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I am currently using a Sprint Moto X on Page Plus but cannot get the data to work. I read that it get it APN info from the SIM card. Does this mean I would require a SIM unlock to use data with Page Plus?
Thanks
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You might want to ask in other thread.. see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-flash-sprint-moto-x-to-page-plus-t2732342
actually, never mind., I see you have since posted there.
I have a Moto X XT1050. Its suppose to be carrier unlocked but every one i try i get the same, they cant activate.
It was recently activated on Alltel but the were just bought out by at&t. Idk what carrier this phone will work under
Can anyone help??
From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
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From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
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Ok so I called Verizon and the guy said it was carrier unlocked and they dont support it. I checked a few others through thier website but no luck.
The bootloader has been unlocked, the phone is rooted....the SIM I'm not sure about. It doesn't have SIM in it but it gets 2 bars of signal
KidJoe said:
From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
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So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
I used xt1050 in Indonesia use gsm carrier and it work fine. So i think my device is sim unlock
Josephdbrewer25 said:
So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
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Verizon will not activate any phones that aren't Verizon branded. That's what the rep. means by "unsupported".
Some CDMA MVNOs may support it, I haven't checked around to see. Chances are T-Mo or AT&T will. As noted by another poster he found a GSM carrier in Indonesia that it works with. Chances are any European carrier will too, but that won't help him at the moment.
At&t won't take it either. I don't get it. What's the point in an unlocked phone if nobody will take it??
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So even if I activate a Verizon SIM and put it in the phone it won't work??
And Verizon has activated a non branded before.
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Ok so I called Verizon and the guy said it was carrier unlocked and they dont support it. I checked a few others through thier website but no luck.
The bootloader has been unlocked, the phone is rooted....the SIM I'm not sure about. It doesn't have SIM in it but it gets 2 bars of signal
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Verizon uses the XT1060... IF the listing on Wikipedia are correct, the XT1050 and XT1060 use slightly different frequency for CDMA.
Not to mention, as @glarepate has already said, Verizon will not activate a device that isn't Verizon Branded.
IN the OP you say its SIM Unlocked, now you say you're not sure about the SIM??
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So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
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SIM unlocked = Carrier Unlocked yes, at least for GSM carriers. But the GSM carriers might not offer much support getting your device working.
CDMA carriers, like Verizon, might have the GSM side unlocked (i.e. you can pop an ATT or T-Mobile or other SIM in there and use it), but the CDMA side is LOCKED. Sprint, another CDMA carrier, has the GSM side SIM LOCKED on their 2013 X (XT1056)
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Verizon uses the XT1060... IF the listing on Wikipedia are correct, the XT1050 and XT1060 use slightly different frequency for CDMA.
Not to mention, as @glarepate has already said, Verizon will not activate a device that isn't Verizon Branded.
IN the OP you say its SIM Unlocked, now you say you're not sure about the SIM??
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SIM unlocked = Carrier Unlocked yes, at least for GSM carriers. But the GSM carriers might not offer much support getting your device working.
CDMA carriers, like Verizon, might have the GSM side unlocked (i.e. you can pop an ATT or T-Mobile or other SIM in there and use it), but the CDMA side is LOCKED. Sprint, another CDMA carrier, has the GSM side SIM LOCKED on their 2013 X (XT1056)
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The verizon rep said it is carrier unlocked. All I know is that my step dad had it on alltel CDMA. Alltel just got bought out so that's a no go there. But the rep ask if i had a sim card, i was thinking maybe i could pop in a verizon one and it would work. Idk much about GSM but im gonna take it to a phone place in town tomorrow and see what they say.
Thanks for all of your replies
Josephdbrewer25 said:
The verizon rep said it is carrier unlocked. All I know is that my step dad had it on alltel CDMA. Alltel just got bought out so that's a no go there. But the rep ask if i had a sim card, i was thinking maybe i could pop in a verizon one and it would work. Idk much about GSM but im gonna take it to a phone place in town tomorrow and see what they say.
Thanks for all of your replies
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Verizon doesn't sell the XT1050, so I wouldn't put any faith into what they tell you. If its not a Verizon Branded Xt1060, they will not activate it on their service PERIOD.
Verizon still uses CDMA for voice and 3G data. So even if you put a Verizon 4GLTE SIM in there, it wont work.
The Verizon XT1060 is GSM Unlocked out of the box. (This is due to FCC C-Block Rules), so IF this was a Verizon XT1060, you could put a T-Mobile, ATT, Rogers, etc SIM in there and use the GSM side.
BUT you said this phone is an XT1050. So its not the same.
Good luck.
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Verizon doesn't sell the XT1050, so I wouldn't put any faith into what they tell you. If its not a Verizon Branded Xt1060, they will not activate it on their service PERIOD.
Verizon still uses CDMA for voice and 3G data. So even if you put a Verizon 4GLTE SIM in there, it wont work.
The Verizon XT1060 is GSM Unlocked out of the box. (This is due to FCC C-Block Rules), so IF this was a Verizon XT1060, you could put a T-Mobile, ATT, Rogers, etc SIM in there and use the GSM side.
BUT you said this phone is an XT1050. So its not the same.
Good luck.
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Well something weird happened while my X was in recovery mode. It was plugged into my laptop and it popped up up "Install drivers for your XT1060." Do they all say that or is mine just being stupid?
How can I determine what model of the X I have, I'm so confused about this phone man.
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Verizon will not activate any phones that aren't Verizon branded. That's what the rep. means by "unsupported".
Some CDMA MVNOs may support it, I haven't checked around to see. Chances are T-Mo or AT&T will. As noted by another poster he found a GSM carrier in Indonesia that it works with. Chances are any European carrier will too, but that won't help him at the moment.
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Can you tell me any other carriers inside the US, lol. I already checked with AT&t, got the same thing as with Verizon. Not sure about T-Mo, that's the only one I haven't checked that picks up where I live. I have a great phone and can't even activate it. It kinda sucks.
And one more thing, sorry if I'm being a pain but why couldn't I use a Verizon SIM in it and it'd work??
I have used my XT1050 on Verizon by swapping out the Sim. It is carrier unlocked. I was also able to unlock my bootloader using the Motorola website.
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Can you tell me any other carriers inside the US, lol. I already checked with AT&t, got the same thing as with Verizon. Not sure about T-Mo, that's the only one I haven't checked that picks up where I live. I have a great phone and can't even activate it. It kinda sucks.
And one more thing, sorry if I'm being a pain but why couldn't I use a Verizon SIM in it and it'd work??
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By all means check with T-Mo. They are trying to get more customers and may be willing to work with you. They tend to be more flexible that AT&T anyway.
Ting uses Sprint (so that may not work for you if there is no coverage) and Cricket uses AT&T, both have BYOD.
https://ting.com/byod
https://www.cricketwireless.com/shop/byod.html
I know there are others but these are just off the top of my head.
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I have used my XT1050 on Verizon by swapping out the Sim. It is carrier unlocked. I was also able to unlock my bootloader using the Motorola website.
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So all I gotta do is use a verizon sim in it?? I'm gonna try it. I'm just trying to figure out what the phone can be activated with, lol.
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By all means check with T-Mo. They are trying to get more customers and may be willing to work with you. They tend to be more flexible that AT&T anyway.
Ting uses Sprint (so that may not work for you if there is no coverage) and Cricket uses AT&T, both have BYOD.
https://ting.com/byod
https://www.cricketwireless.com/shop/byod.html
I know there are others but these are just off the top of my head.
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Sprint doesn't have coverage here, not sure about T-Mo. At&t gets coverage here now, they use to not.
The last carrier the phone was activated with was Alltel but they were bought out. I'll check and call around
Thanks everybody!!
Josephdbrewer25 said:
Well something weird happened while my X was in recovery mode. It was plugged into my laptop and it popped up up "Install drivers for your XT1060." Do they all say that or is mine just being stupid?
How can I determine what model of the X I have, I'm so confused about this phone man.
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THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
KidJoe said:
THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
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I have the stock ROM installed but a custom recovery. It's the XT1050. This phone is weird lol
KidJoe said:
THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
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Hey @KidJoe, guess what? I called the postpaid department of Verizon and the lady told me that since my Moto X was on Alltel last that I could bring it to a store and they can put it in their system. I told her everything i knew about the phone. She said it can NOT be activated on prepaid BUT it can on postpaid. Got that same info from 2 or 3 other online support reps, lol.. So in that case you CAN activate NON verizon phones on Verizon.... oh AND I flashed the Verizon firmware on it and it works great.
I mentioned this before in another thread but maybe the wrong one. If anyone remembers the Droid Turbo XT1254 awaiting bootloader unlock 4ever... Someone mentioned a Non-Verizon CDMA version the Moto Maxx XT1250! If you found one from a rural Carrier near you, you could unlock the boitloader through Motorola no problem ! I know for a fact because im typing with my XT1250 right now that ive had ever since then.
Anyway the same company here in Wisconsin called cellcom has CDMA Moto Z2 Force's for thier cell plans or to buy retail ! I just dont know the model number that this would be.... Still trying to find out.
Thanks for the info, but US Cellular variant has same features (unlockable bootloader; compatible with VZW LTE bands). Shows up on Verizon account as a "Non-VZW Device" (FWIW).
Yea but you get it to work on Verizon by first having your sim in a Verizon device, then putting in the z2 force, unlock bootloader and flash Verizon firmware if you want to be that legit, otherwise it works fine putting the sim in even tho it said non Verizon device. my account said I'm using 2 non Verizon devices and everything works fine.