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Amidst all the threads with 4.2 bashing and complaining and websites calling 4.2 the worst since Honeycomb, I wanted to just say that 4.2 is the best version of the OS to date. I've been sole on Android since 2009 with the Droid release and had experience since eclair. A major gripe I've always had with Android is that regular reboots were required to keep the system running efficiently. Custom Roms were required to have good features. But Android has matured to the point of greatness.
I have a De-Odexed version of 4.2 with not one reboot in over 100 hours on my Nexus 7 and Ive been draining the battery to at least 10% each day. (I use it a lot Lol). This is something I would never have been able to do on any other version of the OS. It is fast, stable and very efficient.
Way to go Google... Can't wait for the next one
Don't worry, it's always the same handful of whingers. Besides them, there are millions of satisfied owners...
If there were a company in the market who had changed their business model from innovation to litigation,
and they had more cash than any other company on earth,
you would think they might be spending some of that cash throwing up FUD for their competitors.
No one says they have to play fair.
Same here, really like and enjoy 4.2.
Of course there's a couple of bugs, esp. with new features, but that's nothing unusual and they will be fixed.
On another note: would you mind telling me how and what you used to deodex 4.2?
Wanna mess around again the ROM but the tools I got barely worked on 4.0 so can't even think of using them on 4.1 or even 4.2.... :-/
Appreciated
HellcatDroid said:
Same here, really like and enjoy 4.2.
Of course there's a couple of bugs, esp. with new features, but that's nothing unusual and they will be fixed.
On another note: would you mind telling me how and what you used to deodex 4.2?
Wanna mess around again the ROM but the tools I got barely worked on 4.0 so can't even think of using them on 4.1 or even 4.2.... :-/
Appreciated
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Its the Dev section....
The system apps are deodex but not framework...
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Don't worry, it's always the same handful of whingers. Besides them, there are millions of satisfied owners...
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Whingers you say, funnily enough in the years I've been on XDA I've not come across as many people complaining about an Android update as I have about 4.2 but if you say everyone one of these people are *whingers* then it must be true eh
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I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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I just prefer 4.1.2. I just haven't been whining about it all over the forum.
The only feature that I actually used on 4.2 was the keyboard. So I downgraded back to 4.1.2 and just flashed the keyboard. And 4.1.2 performs better on my device.
wpghtc said:
I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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I love it. Chrome seems light years faster.
As much as I would love to give my thanks to google for this update I can not. I've been using android since cupcake and one of the biggest fans. Eleven different devices running android over the years. I am always one of the lucky ones and don't have the issues others complain about, untill now.
I've had my n7 since launch and it is the only android I never bothered to root as it was perfect from the start and I had little use for my rooted apps. After the ota I had constant hot reboots and a somewhat flawed ui (not that's a real complaint as much of that was supposed to happen) not to mention worse battery life and slower charges.
I was forced to root, and am happy I did, alrdeay running three different custom roms and pretty impresses, much more so than googles official 4.2 update
This is the first time that in my opinon the update was worse than the previous.
So I guess I like it as it finally made me root my n7!
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I quite like 4.2 the only thing I would like added is a restart option on the power button. Have had some random reboots but its nothing major for me and as apps get updated they are getting less frequent.
I don't think I have ever bashed a release version in over 3 years of solely using droid os.
Cursed a few custom ROMs tho
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wpghtc said:
I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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December isn't gone. Run the stock calendar app and you'll see it just fine. The place where it's AWOL is in the "People" app.
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demkantor said:
As much as I would love to give my thanks to google for this update I can not. I've been using android since cupcake and one of the biggest fans. Eleven different devices running android over the years. I am always one of the lucky ones and don't have the issues others complain about, untill now.
I've had my n7 since launch and it is the only android I never bothered to root as it was perfect from the start and I had little use for my rooted apps. After the ota I had constant hot reboots and a somewhat flawed ui (not that's a real complaint as much of that was supposed to happen) not to mention worse battery life and slower charges.
I was forced to root, and am happy I did, alrdeay running three different custom roms and pretty impresses, much more so than googles official 4.2 update
This is the first time that in my opinon the update was worse than the previous.
So I guess I like it as it finally made me root my n7!
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Did you perform a full wipe after updating to 4.2. If not it might have been some incompatible apps making your n7 do the reboots and other things. By the way do you have an 8 or 16 GB n7? I have 16, and haven't had a single problem after updating.
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I dont feel like saying thanks google because its their job. and on one side am happy on the other i wait for 4.2.1 to fix all the bugs ..so its balanced
I haven't had an issue with performance at all did a clean install from a image and been great.
The only thing that I find useless are the " quick settings" cause they are not quick making a five step process into a four step process is not quick
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Brian, do you use a second multi user profile?
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A full wipe doesn't help. I did one before installing 4.2. I haven't had a reboot since I uninstalled HD Widgets, but it hasn't been that long. It may not be causing the problem, but it certainly does seem to make the problem come to the forefront.
Well I have noticed that HD widgets are fine until you use a lock screen widget then all hell breaks loose.
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Brian, do you use a second multi user profile?
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no
Am I to assume that the update for three nex7 I'd totally different than the one for the gnex? I mean I know they are totally different devices but I have a stock 4.2 rom on my phone and it's fine. Battery life is way better than the cm Rom I was running and I haven't had any problems.
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it looks like kit kat might be very well suited to our phones, as it's specifically designed to work on older, GB-based phones. the exhibit gets resurrected yet again!
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Proud2banoob said:
it looks like kit kat might be very well suited to our phones, as it's specifically designed to work on older, GB-based phones. the exhibit gets resurrected yet again!
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so is lollipop
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so is lollipop
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and macaroon and Nougat
Kit Kat for my SGH-T679
Proud2banoob said:
it looks like kit kat might be very well suited to our phones, as it's specifically designed to work on older, GB-based phones. the exhibit gets resurrected yet again!
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So this may be a stupid question, Im new here, but can i get 4.4 on my SGH-T679? Is there a rom ready for us? I love my T679 so i think i will stick with it as long as the keep the roms coming!
No kit kat yet but it will come
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No kit kat yet but it will come
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the source code was just released yesterday, wasn't it? even cam wasn't that fast.
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Cam is already playing with kitkat but by the screenshot it's for the nexus
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Cam is already playing with kitkat but by the screenshot it's for the nexus
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I think cam is done with the Exhibit. Shame, but it is what it is.
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well if cam is only doing kit kat for the nexus once i get ion stable enough, won't be hard to port it over with newer drivers for our exhibit. I just got this phone recently and plan on using for as long as possible. yes it wouldn't be hard to port it over now with pmem but to me if we are going to get any major performance boost we will need ION. Which is my biggest priority and most of the time working on.
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well if cam is only doing kit kat for the nexus once i get ion stable enough, won't be hard to port it over with newer drivers for our exhibit. I just got this phone recently and plan on using for as long as possible. yes it wouldn't be hard to port it over now with pmem but to me if we are going to get any major performance boost we will need ION. Which is my biggest priority and most of the time working on.
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time for another learning moment. ION is a shell, correct? you would use it to build another rom for the phone? on which shell was AOIP based? thanks
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time for another learning moment. ION is a shell, correct? you would use it to build another rom for the phone? on which shell was AOIP based? thanks
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No ION is a memory manger as is pmem. Its part of the kernel. PMEM is an older architecture which is what our phones currently use. Yes I will be releasing a custom version of AOIP as this is my first for dev android. Then I will release my own after that. Hope that clears things up a little more
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No ION is a memory manger as is pmem. Its part of the kernel. PMEM is an older architecture which is what our phones currently use. Yes I will be releasing a custom version of AOIP as this is my first for dev android. Then I will release my own after that. Hope that clears things up a little more
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yes. it does. thank you. moving to ion will definitely help us. I gotta get a newer version of TWRP so I can upload these 4.4 roms.
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Proud2banoob said:
yes. it does. thank you. moving to ion will definitely help us. I gotta get a newer version of TWRP so I can upload these 4.4 roms.
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CWM 6.0.4.4 cam posted does 4.4 Roms. But I know the feeling of having something more preferred than something else. For example I love Windows (anything before WIN8 as they killed my taskbar and start menu.) but absolutely hate ANYTHING APPLE.
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CWM 6.0.4.4 cam posted does 4.4 Roms. But I know the feeling of having something more preferred than something else. For example I love Windows (anything before WIN8 as they killed my taskbar and start menu.) but absolutely hate ANYTHING APPLE.
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I just know nothing about using cwm. I wouldn't know which buttons to push to do what and although I could always read up on it, my drive to learn a new recovery isn't that strong. I'm happy with my phone. kit cat might be nice. I'll have to wait and see.
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I just know nothing about using cwm. I wouldn't know which buttons to push to do what and although I could always read up on it, my drive to learn a new recovery isn't that strong. I'm happy with my phone. kit cat might be nice. I'll have to wait and see.
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its a lot like stock recovery. menu is enter key the arrow back is the back button and vol is the scroll up and down. The rest should be easy after that if you already know what to wipe and what not.
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its a lot like stock recovery. menu is enter key the arrow back is the back button and vol is the scroll up and down. The rest should be easy after that if you already know what to wipe and what not.
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I just like the touch interface of TWRP. I'm afraid I'm a bit of an Apple guy (but I like android. go figure) and I prefer a GUI.
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So I remember when 4.3 hit there were all manner of little random quirks with various apps not being compatible and little things not working right. It took about a month for most major apps like MX Player, Lightflow, some others to get ironed out after it released. Also took a couple days to make rooting easy and stable. With us having to wait on *Official* Kit Kat by the time it comes out most the apps will be ready. Several of my apps have been updated recently and I've noticed 4.4 compatibility in the change log. So I guess I don't mind waiting a couple weeks. Although it still doesn't help me really understand why....
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Is there any word when? I remember hearing something about a week or two, a week ago.
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So I remember when 4.3 hit there were all manner of little random quirks with various apps not being compatible and little things not working right. It took about a month for most major apps like MX Player, Lightflow, some others to get ironed out after it released. Also took a couple days to make rooting easy and stable. With us having to wait on *Official* Kit Kat by the time it comes out most the apps will be ready. Several of my apps have been updated recently and I've noticed 4.4 compatibility in the change log. So I guess I don't mind waiting a couple weeks. Although it still doesn't help me really understand why....
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Yes, I think you are totally true, but this could perfectly be a comment in a previously opened thread. Please use opened threads
Android 4.4 Kit Kat Discussion Thread
Romman0 said:
Is there any word when? I remember hearing something about a week or two, a week ago.
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You're right.. It's late and I'm overly excited.. Lol. Mod can delete if you want. I won't cry...
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I wouldn't get too excited about this. It's not like android 5. It's gonna be incremental, esp on nexus 4,etal. You want the launcher you are going to have to pay for the nexus 5
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jcnbama said:
You're right.. It's late and I'm overly excited.. Lol. Mod can delete if you want. I won't cry...
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Yeah well I need to at least be able to say I lived through one ACTUAL OTA update.. Lol. I would like to see it before too long. Once Nexus 5's get out there more mainstream and Google sees everything going well I would say 2-3 weeks. I think they'll start rolling it out. Probably have it by Christmas..
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howard bamber said:
I wouldn't get too excited about this. It's not like android 5. It's gonna be incremental, esp on nexus 4,etal. You want the launcher you are going to have to pay for the nexus 5
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The look of the new launcher will also be possible with 3rd party launchers once they've been updated, since now Android supports transparent menu and status bars out of the box. Also, I think with those launchers we won't have this hideous gradient.
For the ones who know me, I had a note 1 and note 2 for AT&T. I've done my little share or Rom development and theming apps...
So anyone who knows me..what's up guys....Looks like we need alot of work here I take it?
Hey. I remember you in the 2 forums. Yeah it's dead over here but there's a thread in general that kinda let's us flash roms. Someone just verified it working and starting to dig deeper into it to maybe get us some roms made up. Check the thread out.
And if you are running mi9 then root with dlv and disable your update cause once you are on mj5 you can't go back as it stands right now. It will auto update if you wait to long
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wish777 said:
For the ones who know me, I had a note 1 and note 2 for AT&T. I've done my little share or Rom development and theming apps...
So anyone who knows me..what's up guys....Looks like we need alot of work here I take it?
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It's funny that you mention it, just today we discovered that it is possible to flash custom ROMs. If you're on MJ5 and something goes wrong, you won't be able to un-brick your device. However if you're running an earlier firmware you can use Odin to re-flash stock. Can't wait to wipe this TouchJizz off the face of the earth, just waiting for that MJ5 Odin. :good:
Wish!
Good to see ya around here...Ya, I'm patiently waiting for this thing to take off. This is just upsetting that we have to deal with this nonsense with the locked bootloaders
Hope you make the jump wish....your a helpful guy
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Agreed this is like a veterans thread
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I remember alot of you guys...That's great..The forums are so much better with vets that are technically inclined, and have alot in common...
roughneckboren said:
And if you are running mi9 then root with dlv and disable your update cause once you are on mj5 you can't go back as it stands right now. It will auto update if you wait to long
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Bro...Soon as I read this my dam phone just updated....Dam...I just got the note 3 today....
wish777 said:
Bro...Soon as I read this my dam phone just updated....Dam...I just got the note 3 today....
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Damn it....mine did the same thing, it updated while i was driving home from best buy....lol
Once your on Mj5 as of right now the most you can do is Root and theme. im Hoping we can get a Odin Package for MJ5 soon so we dont have to worry about bricks and we can start testing more things with out worrying about not being able to recover.
true..root ,theme and debloat ....You would think.after debloating this rom. And using sd read/write values that would increase a decent amount for such a early development.
Is phone sure loves to use alot of stock ram for some reason..
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Bro...Soon as I read this my dam phone just updated....Dam...I just got the note 3 today....
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I tired everything to get it to not update and as soon as I put my battery back in it was updating. Yours seemed to update a lot faster than mine did. It was like two days. I just got mine the other day
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Hey I remember you from my old note 2.
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wish777 said:
Bro...Soon as I read this my dam phone just updated....Dam...I just got the note 3 today....
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Bring it back and exchange you're within your 14 days.
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Yeah u don't want to play with a phone that has no Odin for it
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We will have Odin soon enough. For now root, Debloat, and xposed is good enough for me. My 2 biggest gripes were the green eqs tabs, and the green battery. I themed to match the blue tw jelly bean theme, and removed the battery icon. Looks much better. Also did some other things with xposed. Very happy for now.
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I've been patiently waiting as my phone updated to mj5 also so I'm stuck with stock for now, I don't want to start modding without a way to recover. Good to see you here Wish777 hopefully we see the ball rolling soon with this beast.
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roloracer said:
I've been patiently waiting as my phone updated to mj5 also so I'm stuck with stock for now, I don't want to start modding without a way to recover. Good to see you here Wish777 hopefully we see the ball rolling soon with this beast.
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Hey racer...Yeah I'm staying stock for just a bit longer to better understand the this device..good to see ya here as well.
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Hey racer...Yeah I'm staying stock for just a bit longer to better understand the this device..good to see ya here as well.
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Yeah I hear you, I want to see custom recovery before I go all out on this, definitely need nandroid as a safety net. Luckily this phone is badass stock so I'm pretty content at the moment.
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Hello all.
Im new to the note 3... but not to xda. I dont post much at all. However I do have a rooted skyrocket and give all credit to Vincom. I still read through his threads regularly. I got the s2 when it was the flagship and now ive upped the grade to the next one. I think its wrong of the manufacturer and carrier to charge us a boatload for this device and chain it to the dock so to speak. It seems there is some experience in this thread so I will be checking in often. I also had the mj5 update sneek in before I knew what happened and it does seem that we are all leary of the dread 600$ brick. Thanks to all who dare. You are my hero (s).
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I'm on Mj5 and I rooted with Kingo...
I cant post links to it per xda rules but if you google it you'll find it...I haven't had any issues .
You can use "wanan" app and "exposed framework" app to theme and some decent mods.
I'm sorry but has gotta be the most boring forum I ever encountered since being on XDA.
It just dead!!!! it either nobody got nothing to talk about, or the S5 has been a poor seller, all the other Galaxy forums on XDA are alot more active than this place, even the S4 one.
Or is there another reason why nobody bothering to post much these days?
Cause XDA has lost its touch. S5 is great but I have stopped development on phones like most devs have. XDA is boring. /My Opinion
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DesertHawk said:
Cause XDA has lost its touch. S5 is great but I have stopped development on phones like most devs have. XDA is boring. /My Opinion
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Maybe it's just such a great phone, easy to root, and with Xposed modules, you don't need anything else. Battery life and performance are great, the OS keeps improving.
Perhaps people are realizing that there is more to life than caring about minuscule incremental upgrades to your phone.
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Maybe it's just such a great phone, easy to root, and with Xposed modules, you don't need anything else. Battery life and performance are great, the OS keeps improving.
Perhaps people are realizing that there is more to life than caring about minuscule incremental upgrades to your phone.
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+1. Last few months I don't even change ROMs. No need.
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+1
Xposed & NOVA = perfect phone
Nothing more to add. Still using stock firmware, no need to change that untill stable CM or Google Play Edition firmware will show up. Untill then it's perfect as it is with towelroot.
I can agree with all above. Rooted and Xposed. So far so good. Cyanogen or Google play edition would be nice , but until then no worries.
Xposed + wanam + TouchWiz Xposed + Nova + Google everywhere = amazing everything
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I miss the old good days of XDA
It just needs more cowbell.
My phone works as it should!
There is not much to talk about.
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I'm just learning. Being new it's a fine line to actively contribute whilst trying to avoid getting 'search forum' to everything you post.
I can say I've learned vast -- incredibly vast -- amounts in my short time here. Been anxiously waiting my first rom flash. Had to get SD card (im new to smartphones also) but then my charge flap broke so now i need to take it in for a fix. Having towelroot only, and just started tinkering with nova & themer today.
I did not want to buy the S5 to be honest but I am glad I did. Great phone with zero lags an good battery life. No complaints so far ?
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to be honest i think most of the rom devs want the gps and camera errors to be fixed, then well get aokp pa and cm
Maybe because everyone already has experience in XDA so most problems are solved
And the fact a new phone is pushed out almost every month?
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XtreStolite works perfect,really amazing rom+nova and of course xposed give me a really smooth experience and almost 3 days battery power,couldnt be happier with this phone
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It is summer so there is not as much activity.
And we have a perfect root method and there are some good custom ROMs for TW and some kernels that are very good for modding and tweaking. We got pretty much what we need until the camera and gps issues is fixed for some custom roms, there is not too much to talk about right now. So the activity is not as high. Come up with some interesting topics if you feel there is something missing in SGS5 General!
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I miss the old good days of XDA
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Everything is changing.. that called life...
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Especialy new(er) menbers are different these days imo, users used to search and read up and now its as they expect on demand service and satisfaction. Spoiled & lazy brats, i`d love to kick some in the ass some times