Hi.
I'm going abroad on Jan 1 for 12 months and want to get the GSM version Moto X to bring it with me, but I don't know if this can be done.
The options are AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T requires 6 months usage before they unlock, and T-Mobile requires 40 days, of which the last 7 must be in the US. So these are not options.
I then read about various "unlock" services online, but don't know how reliable these are. What are the odds they can unlock my phone, either AT&T or T-Mobile? This link: http: //www .technobuffalo.com/2013/11/14/att-unlock-changes-putting-resellers-out-of-business/ for example claims that there was a change just 1-2 months ago so that it's virtually impossible to unlock AT&T for 3rd parties now. If I buy this phone, I need to be almost 100% certain it's possible to unlock it, or it's not worth taking the risk.
Finally, would it be possible to unlock the phone by rooting it? I understand the bootloader for the T-Mobile version can be unlocked, but have no idea if, and if so how, this helps me.
Thanks in advance.
mxx2 said:
Hi.
I'm going abroad on Jan 1 for 12 months and want to get the GSM version Moto X to bring it with me, but I don't know if this can be done.
The options are AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T requires 6 months usage before they unlock, and T-Mobile requires 40 days, of which the last 7 must be in the US. So these are not options.
I then read about various "unlock" services online, but don't know how reliable these are. What are the odds they can unlock my phone, either AT&T or T-Mobile? This link: http: //www .technobuffalo.com/2013/11/14/att-unlock-changes-putting-resellers-out-of-business/ for example claims that there was a change just 1-2 months ago so that it's virtually impossible to unlock AT&T for 3rd parties now. If I buy this phone, I need to be almost 100% certain it's possible to unlock it, or it's not worth taking the risk.
Finally, would it be possible to unlock the phone by rooting it? I understand the bootloader for the T-Mobile version can be unlocked, but have no idea if, and if so how, this helps me.
Thanks in advance.
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Many including me have unlocked their phones. I myself had the AT&T model. Sites such as cellunlocker, unlockcode247 get you the code within a couple of days 99% of the time. The 6 months/ 40 days usage only applies if you talk to the carrier CS for the code.
If you dont want to go that route, you could always get the T-Mobile version. Comes SIM unlocked OOTB. So does the DEV Ed.
Rooting does not unlock your phone. Unlocking the BL comes handy if you do a lot of flashing.
I know this doesn't answer your question (since the post above mine does) but the Nexus 5 and Moto G are two nice smartphones that come unlocked. N5 will run you 349, Moto G 179. No contract, unlocked. I prefer the Moto X, but if you want a 100% guarantee, buy an unlocked phone.
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Many including me have unlocked their phones. I myself had the AT&T model. Sites such as cellunlocker, unlockcode247 get you the code within a couple of days 99% of the time. The 6 months/ 40 days usage only applies if you talk to the carrier CS for the code.
If you dont want to go that route, you could always get the T-Mobile version. Comes SIM unlocked OOTB. So does the DEV Ed.
Rooting does not unlock your phone. Unlocking the BL comes handy if you do a lot of flashing.
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Thanks anirudh!
Are you saying that the T-Mobile Moto X without contract is NOT SIM locked to T-Mobile? It would be fantastic if that's the case. Is there an official source? I checked with Motorola a few days ago, and they told me that whatever phone I buy will be SIM locked to the operator, but they might be incorrect?
(Also, when did you unlock your AT&T phone? The article I linked says it became considerably more difficult/impossible just last month, which made me worried.)
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the Nexus 5 and Moto G are two nice smartphones that come unlocked. N5 will run you 349, Moto G 179. No contract, unlocked. I prefer the Moto X, but if you want a 100% guarantee, buy an unlocked phone.
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Thanks Bacon. Yeah, I'll fall back to the Nexus 5 if the Moto X doesn't work out.
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Thanks anirudh!
Are you saying that the T-Mobile Moto X without contract is NOT SIM locked to T-Mobile? It would be fantastic if that's the case. Is there an official source? I checked with Motorola a few days ago, and they told me that whatever phone I buy will be SIM locked to the operator, but they might be incorrect?
(Also, when did you unlock your AT&T phone? The article I linked says it became considerably more difficult/impossible just last month, which made me worried.)
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Thanks Bacon. Yeah, I'll fall back to the Nexus 5 if the Moto X doesn't work out.
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Moto X WILL work out. Even though the N5 is a great phone, I hate the 'bigger is better' race we have going on today. Phones like watches are tools. They go everywhere you do. The X is so much more handy than the N5. Removing the Nav Bar and using LMT makes it even better. This is EXACTLY the phone I was looking to get for so many years.
As for unlocking, I got mine unlocked a week ago. So did plenty of others. There are several threads in the Q&A/ General section on this. If however, you dont want to go that route, get the Dev Edition which comes unlocked. Also the T-Mobile edition. And dont base your decision based on what the CS says. There dont know squat about the X. They told me theres no way T-Mobile BL can be unlocked.
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Thanks anirudh!
Are you saying that the T-Mobile Moto X without contract is NOT SIM locked to T-Mobile? It would be fantastic if that's the case. Is there an official source? I checked with Motorola a few days ago, and they told me that whatever phone I buy will be SIM locked to the operator, but they might be incorrect?
(Also, when did you unlock your AT&T phone? The article I linked says it became considerably more difficult/impossible just last month, which made me worried.)
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AFAIK, the Verizon and T-Mobile versions are SIM unlocked. The system version for the T-Mobile version is ghost_row.retail (not ghost_att.ATT or ghost_verizon.Verizon), so there's actually no carrier in the the system version. So, the T-Mobile variant is just a retail version of the phone that has all of the available US GSM bands unlocked. Obviously, some carrier specific LTE bands may not be available, like Verizon's upper 700MHz band 13. It does support AT&T's lower 700MHz band 17 LTE, and of course T-Mobile, Verizon's AWS band 4 LTE though.
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I should be receiving my no-contract Moto X, AT&T branded, on December 18th. I need to get it unlocked so that I can use it with other GSM carriers. One of the senior members here recommended that I get the T-Mobile version because it comes with unlocked sim. I spoke to Motorola - I
would have to return the phone, get a refund, and order the T-Mobile version.
If I can find a good reliable unlock for AT&T Moto X, I will just keep the phone and unlock it. Any recommendation/suggestions for a good reliable unlock?
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I should be receiving my no-contract Moto X, AT&T branded, on December 18th. I need to get it unlocked so that I can use it with other GSM carriers. One of the senior members here recommended that I get the T-Mobile version because it comes with unlocked sim. I spoke to Motorola - I
would have to return the phone, get a refund, and order the T-Mobile version.
If I can find a good reliable unlock for AT&T Moto X, I will just keep the phone and unlock it. Any recommendation/suggestions for a good reliable unlock?
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unlockcode247 and cellunlocker both worked for me. Have the AT&T version myself. Took a couple of days for the code to be generated. Many have had success with these two sites.
You should be able to just enter the request at the official AT&T device unlock site. Just google "AT&T device unlock".
roopesh said:
You should be able to just enter the request at the official AT&T device unlock site. Just google "AT&T device unlock".
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To build on what roopesh said, AT&T provides unlocking services at their discretion. Information about this can be found here: att.com/deviceunlock/.
Most of the time, this isn't a problem and AT&T will remotely unlock your device for you (takes up to 24 hours after confirmation). Although sometimes, they will decline to unlock your phone for a multitude of reasons.
AT&T reserves the right to deny any unlock request that it concludes would result in an abuse of this policy or is part of an effort to defraud AT&T or its customers. AT&T further reserves the right to alter this unlocking policy at its discretion without advance notice.
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As long as you're in good standing (basically means you don't owe them any money), it should be an automated process in which you'll end up waiting a day or two. If you encounter any questions, my recommendation is to claim that you're taking the phone overseas and will need to operate on international GSM providers.
I am in the market to get either the nexus 5 or moto x. Finally switching off of Verizon and thinking of going to AT&T.
I want to MotoMake my own Moto with the unlocked (T Mobile) option, if i do so, is there bloatware or carrier logo?
And if no, then my next question would be if I used it on AT&T, do I lose LTE? I was told mixed things, that I would and I may not have AT&T 4G LTE.
Because then I may just get the Nexus 5.
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justinisloco said:
I am in the market to get either the nexus 5 or moto x. Finally switching off of Verizon and thinking of going to AT&T.
I want to MotoMake my own Moto with the unlocked (T Mobile) option, if i do so, is there bloatware or carrier logo? ...
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There is no carrier branding or bloatware on the T-Mobile version (XT1053).
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There is no carrier branding or bloatware on the T-Mobile version (XT1053).
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Thanks, would you be able to answer the second question as well?
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You don't lose LTE. You may have to call up AT&T to make sure AT&T lists it as a LTE device, as a few people here have done.
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I'm using the T-Mobile variant on straight talk and I pick up LTE off of at&ts towers
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So !y last question would be updating/rooting. So would I get a upgrade close to the date of when Motorola releases it? Or when AT&T approves it, even though its carrier unlocked?
And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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justinisloco said:
So !y last question would be updating/rooting. So would I get a upgrade close to the date of when Motorola releases it? Or when AT&T approves it, even though its carrier unlocked?
And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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Which upgrade are you taking about? If you mean the 4.4 KitKat, then you'll probably see it soon after you turn on the phone unless it ships with it already. Any subsequent updates you should see soon after T-Mobile releases it no matter the carrier.
If you're talking the two year upgrade for a new phone, then it's two years from the date you sign the contact. Although that doesn't matter if you're buying your device outright.
For the last question, the only devices that have a safely unlockable bootloader are the dev devices, not the MotoMaker ones. You can unlock the bootloader on the T-Mobile phone, but in doing so you will void your warranty. Unlocking the bootloader on Dev device will not void the warranty
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Edit: clarifying my train of thought after just waking up.
chrstndsgnr said:
Which upgrade are you taking about? If you mean the 4.4 KitKat, then you'll probably see it soon after you turn on the phone unless it ships with it already. Any subsequent updates you should see soon after T-Mobile releases it no matter the carrier.
If you're talking the two year upgrade for a new phone, then it's two years from the date you sign the contact. Although that doesn't matter if you're buying your device outright.
For the last question, the only devices that have a safely unlockable bootloader are the dev devices, not the MotoMaker ones. You can unlock the bootloader on the T-Mobile phone, but in doing so you will void your warranty. Unlocking the bootloader on Dev device will not void the warranty
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Thanks, yes I meant the kit Kat, but I'm thinking future updates (like 4.4.1) would I get it when AT&T gets it or when TMo gets it, although I'll be on AT&T.
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Thanks, yes I meant the kit Kat, but I'm thinking future updates (like 4.4.1) would I get it when AT&T gets it or when TMo gets it, although I'll be on AT&T.
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You'll get it when T-Mobile releases it. I've never been on their service and I got the notification for kitkat about 10 minutes after I inserted my straight talk sim card that's using at&ts towers
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Can't get straight answers!....HELP if you please
I've been doing research and making a lot of calls to both AT&T and to motorola regarding the GSM unlocked(Tmo) version of the MOTO X on the ATT network. Specifically, I have asked ATT about the 850 Mhz LTE band (which is not supported on the GCM unlocked X) and how, If at all, would my service be affected by the lack of this freq. NO one at ATT seems to know anything. I asked moto(numerous times) before I ordered and was told it's the "same phone" or that it "will work". No one seems to be able to tell me specifically if not having this band will adversely effect my ability to get service as I travel the country(US). The phone arrives wed and I'll post again with the results. After I update the APN settings(if needed) we'll see what happens. The only reason I opted for the GSM unlocked version is to be able to use PDA NET + to tether and use another carrier if I desire. (grandfathered unlimited data).
Another question:
Will I need to root the phone to use PDA net, or can u I just use native tethering on the GSM unlocked on the ATT network. ?? Thanks in advance.
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And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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No, you have to get an unlock code from Motorola and it voids your warranty.
Why not just get the GSM Dev Ed and keep your warranty after you unlock it?
I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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Zcam said:
I've been doing research and making a lot of calls to both AT&T and to motorola regarding the GSM unlocked(Tmo) version of the MOTO X on the ATT network. Specifically, I have asked ATT about the 850 Mhz LTE band (which is not supported on the GCM unlocked X) and how, If at all, would my service be affected by the lack of this freq. NO one at ATT seems to know anything. I asked moto(numerous times) before I ordered and was told it's the "same phone" or that it "will work". No one seems to be able to tell me specifically if not having this band will adversely effect my ability to get service as I travel the country(US). The phone arrives wed and I'll post again with the results. After I update the APN settings(if needed) we'll see what happens. The only reason I opted for the GSM unlocked version is to be able to use PDA NET + to tether and use another carrier if I desire. (grandfathered unlimited data).
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AFAIK, the 850MHz band is only used for 2G/3G, which is usable by the unlocked X. From my research, I don't see anyone with any plans to use LTE on that frequency.
Short answer: If AT&T or one of their roaming partners has service, you should be fine.
Another question:
Will I need to root the phone to use PDA net, or can u I just use native tethering on the GSM unlocked on the ATT network. ?? Thanks in advance.
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You would not be able to use native tethering unless you pay for the tethering service to the best of my knowledge.
From what I remember of PDA.net from years ago was that it did not need root to function.
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Thraxzzz said:
I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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That was/is the original stance by Motorola. They got a bit of backlash and reversed the decision for the Dev devices only.
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Thraxzzz said:
I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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That was their old policy. Motorola has reversed themselves on that policy.
I am getting ready to order a couple of X's for my wife and me. I have a couple of questions....
We are with at&t. Is there a difference between the at&t branded ones and the GSM dev models? I have Googled this, but I am still confused as to whether there are hardware differences which would make the dev model less useful on at&t and whether there is bloat on the at&t model....
We have a SG4 and an iPhone 5 which still under contract which we will keep as spares for the family. I assume that we can buy the X at&t branded through Moto Maker without a contract? and just stay on the plan?
Thank you. I have spent hours on this and I am still confused, probably because it keeps changing....
I would like to know to. I'm getting ready to buy a moto x also
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I am getting ready to order a couple of X's for my wife and me. I have a couple of questions....
We are with at&t. Is there a difference between the at&t branded ones and the GSM dev models? I have Googled this, but I am still confused as to whether there are hardware differences which would make the dev model less useful on at&t and whether there is bloat on the at&t model....
We have a SG4 and an iPhone 5 which still under contract which we will keep as spares for the family. I assume that we can buy the X at&t branded through Moto Maker without a contract? and just stay on the plan?
Thank you. I have spent hours on this and I am still confused, probably because it keeps changing....
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the developer edition are unlocked and u can unlock ur bootloader without losing ur warranty
being unlocked u can use with other carriers
if u buy at&t u can use only with at&t
if u want a phone that u can use with gsm carriers and with other carriers take or a developer edition or a unlockable one without contract
I got the T-Mobile unlockable (and unbranded!) version from Motomaker off-contract. Works great on AT&T and it beat paying the extra dough for a developer edition, since it's practically the same damn thing! (I also don't care about voiding warranty having unlocked my bootloader. I take care of my phone. If warranty is something you desire, then go dev edition or stick with your current carrier's version).
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I got the T-Mobile unlockable (and unbranded!) version from Motomaker off-contract. Works great on AT&T and it beat paying the extra dough for a developer edition, since it's practically the same damn thing! (I also don't care about voiding warranty having unlocked my bootloader. I take care of my phone. If warranty is something you desire, then go dev edition or stick with your current carrier's version).
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I'm pretty sure the developer edition is the same price as the moto maker version so it won't cost any "extra dough." And it doesn't matter how well you care for your phone. That's not what a warranty is for. It covers failures NOT caused by the user. You could wrap your phone in bubble wrap, never flash a third party app, and only use it under tightly controlled environmental conditions, insuring the phone is never exposed to any abuse, and a part could still fail, thus necessitating the use of the warranty. Which you voided by unlocking the boot loader on a non-developer edition.
You can pick either the AT&T branded one, the T-Mobile variant, or the unlocked. The T-mobile is actually unbranded, SIM unlocked and has no carrier apps.
I'm in the same boat still in contract with AT&T and purchased the T-Mobile one to leave my options open to switch to T-Mobile later and be able to purchase SIM cards for use abroad without having to fight the death star to get an unlock code.
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I'm pretty sure the developer edition is the same price as the moto maker version so it won't cost any "extra dough." And it doesn't matter how well you care for your phone. That's not what a warranty is for. It covers failures NOT caused by the user. You could wrap your phone in bubble wrap, never flash a third party app, and only use it under tightly controlled environmental conditions, insuring the phone is never exposed to any abuse, and a part could still fail, thus necessitating the use of the warranty. Which you voided by unlocking the boot loader on a non-developer edition.
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If I could've bought the developer version easily I certainly would have.
But to me...I'll risk the 400 bucks to unlock..root..etc. I have on every device I've owned. LOL. I need my customization, battery life control..etc etc.
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Buy the unlocked one. Works just fine with att. I'm in the middle of my contract and just had to go to a store and pick up a new sim
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i think it is a good mob
so if you get it feed us back
So, I'm assuming the whole bootloader unlocking process has less to do with the carrier itself and more with the software different carriers actually use on the phone. However, I was wondering if there was a possibility for me to unlock my AT&T MOTO X bootloader if I switch carriers. I'm moving to Europe in about a week and we are discontinuing our AT&T service and unlocking phones to move to a European carrier. Will this allow the possibility to unlock my bootloader? This is probably a stupid question but I was really wondering how it works. I'm not exchanging phone models or anything, I'm keeping the XT1058.
Edit: I won't be on a contract. I'll be using Italian pay-as-you-go services.
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The carrier you are using has nothing to do with the bootloader. Since you have an at&t xt1058, your only option to unlock is the China middleman.
Good luck
Edit: the xt1058 is also Sim locked to at&t so you will need to sim-unlock it to use it on another carrier. This service is available from several online merchants.
Sim unlock and bootloader are two different things. You probably already knew that, but wanted to be sure.
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The carrier you are using has nothing to do with the bootloader. Since you have an at&t xt1058, your only option to unlock is the China middleman.
Good luck
Edit: the xt1058 is also Sim locked to at&t so you will need to sim-unlock it to use it on another carrier. This service is available from several online merchants.
Sim unlock and bootloader are two different things. You probably already knew that, but wanted to be sure.
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I feared as much. I just got the phone about 6 hours ago and I can still return it for a small restocking fee. I will call tomorrow and see if any stores carry the Developer Edition. I also understand the difference between SIM and Bootloader unlock. Thanks for the swift reply, it cleared everything up for me. I have searched about the Chinese Middleman and apparently his services have been discontinued?
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I feared as much. I just got the phone about 6 hours ago and I can still return it for a small restocking fee. I will call tomorrow and see if any stores carry the Developer Edition. I also understand the difference between SIM and Bootloader unlock. Thanks for the swift reply, it cleared everything up for me. I have searched about the Chinese Middleman and apparently his services have been discontinued?
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Find the thread titled "China middleman back". He is available, but can only unlock devices with a 2014 manufacture date (with a few exceptions).
AFAIK, the Developer Editions are only available direct from Motorola. You can also buy the "GSM Unlocked" T-Mobile variant. It comes bootloader-unlockable (straight from Moto's website), AND sim-unlocked for any carrier.
The GSM Unlocked "T-Mobile" variant is identical in every way to the GSM Developer edition, EXCEPT that your warranty is void when you unlock the bootloader. The Dev Edition retains warranty, even after being unlocked. Both of them use the same exact ROM, and neither have any carrier branding or 'bloatware'.
Hope this helps.
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Find the thread titled "China middleman back". He is available, but can only unlock devices with a 2014 manufacture date (with a few exceptions).
AFAIK, the Developer Editions are only available direct from Motorola. You can also buy the "GSM Unlocked" T-Mobile variant. It comes bootloader-unlockable (straight from Moto's website), AND sim-unlocked for any carrier.
The GSM Unlocked "T-Mobile" variant is identical in every way to the GSM Developer edition, EXCEPT that your warranty is void when you unlock the bootloader. The Dev Edition retains warranty, even after being unlocked. Both of them use the same exact ROM, and neither have any carrier branding or 'bloatware'.
Hope this helps.
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Damn, that's bad news for me. The Moto X was virtually a free upgrade for me through AT&T, so getting the Dev Edition through Motorola, I expect I'd have to pay full price regardless. I guess that isn't an option. I looked into that thread and I'm considering purchasing a code, but there is a pretty large possibility I'll just exchange for a different phone and avoid any costs. Its really too bad, I really liked this phone. Should've done my research. Thanks a lot for all the help.
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Damn, that's bad news for me. The Moto X was virtually a free upgrade for me through AT&T, so getting the Dev Edition through Motorola, I expect I'd have to pay full price regardless. I guess that isn't an option. I looked into that thread and I'm considering purchasing a code, but there is a pretty large possibility I'll just exchange for a different phone and avoid any costs. Its really too bad, I really liked this phone. Should've done my research. Thanks a lot for all the help.
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Just one last heads-up:
The XT1058 supports 2 extra LTE bands that the XT1053 (Dev edition OR T-Mobile variant) do not. It is better optimized for use overseas since it supports nearly all the bands used overseas. The Dev / T-Mobile variants DO support one extra UMTS band (AWS band - for HSPA/HSPA+) that is used almost exclusively by T-Mobile.
If you ARE able to get a BL unlock code, your 1058 will be better suited for you to use overseas. SIM-Unlock shouldn't be hard at all, and the codes are very cheap.
So for $45 (BL Unlock) + $10-$15 to SIM-Unlock, you will end up with a device that will work better than the DEV edition will.
See here for a list of supported frequency bands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
If you can successfully unlock, you'll be in great shape.....and if you don't, well you will get refunded and then you might consider returning the XT1058....
If you got the phone virtually free, you won't be out much.
Just out of curiosity: If AT&T subsidized your 'upgrade', and you plan to leave them and switch to an overseas carrier, how are you getting out of paying an early termination fee??
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Just one last heads-up:
The XT1058 supports 2 extra LTE bands that the XT1053 (Dev edition OR T-Mobile variant) do not. It is better optimized for use overseas since it supports nearly all the bands used overseas. The Dev / T-Mobile variants DO support one extra UMTS band (AWS band - for HSPA/HSPA+) that is used almost exclusively by T-Mobile.
If you ARE able to get a BL unlock code, your 1058 will be better suited for you to use overseas. SIM-Unlock shouldn't be hard at all, and the codes are very cheap.
So for $45 (BL Unlock) + $10-$15 to SIM-Unlock, you will end up with a device that will work better than the DEV edition will.
See here for a list of supported frequency bands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
If you can successfully unlock, you'll be in great shape.....and if you don't, well you will get refunded and then you might consider returning the XT1058....
If you got the phone virtually free, you won't be out much.
Just out of curiosity: If AT&T subsidized your 'upgrade', and you plan to leave them and switch to an overseas carrier, how are you getting out of paying an early termination fee??
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You've rekindled my hopes a fair bit. I was just afraid if my code from the middleman didn't work I'd be out $45. Maybe I will give it a try. I love this phone so much even after just a day. I guess the price would be worth it. As for the whole overseas switching and fee payment, my father is in the military. We are being stationed overseas per military orders, so AT&T is basically waiving the fees. We get upgrades and get out of the contract a little under a year early with virtually no repercussions, which is great. In the end, as much as I desire an unlocked bootloader, I may just keep the phone regardless of whether I can unlock or not. It is really amazing and Im not sure if I'd be happy with another phone I can get through AT&T. If only I could upgrade to Nexus 5 through AT&T, I don't really like Samsung or HTC.
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Yo what about the XT1056?
dmonleo said:
Yo what about the XT1056?
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I'm really not sure what you are asking... "Yo what about the XT1056"???
The XT1056 is SIM-Locked to Sprint. If you are a current Sprint customer, and meet certain criteria, sprint will "OTA-Unlock" your XT1056 for international use ONLY. XT1056 cannot be used domestically on any U.S. GSM carrier, even with "OTA-Unlock". Additionally, with the XT1056 you cannot "buy" a SIM-Unlock code from an online merchant. The ONLY way to unlock is through Sprint, and only if you are a current customer and meet other criteria, and even then, it's international GSM use only.
Your phone is brand new, and it was free. See what you can get on swappa for it, and pick up a mint-ish XT1053. No point in paying money to return your phone in my opinion. I was only out another $80 or so doing just that, but I got a bootloader unlock and twice the storage space!
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That Ain't Falco!!! said:
Your phone is brand new, and it was free. See what you can get on swappa for it, and pick up a mint-ish XT1053. No point in paying money to return your phone in my opinion. I was only out another $80 or so doing just that, but I got a bootloader unlock and twice the storage space!
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Yeah, that's an incredibly smart route to take. Unfortunately, I'm leaving the states too soon to do any deals on swappa. Pie root and Xposed Framework is good enough for the time being I suppose.
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Hey y'all, Verizon Moto E4 Plus (XT1774) owner here. I've seen a couple posts on XDA and other Android forums about bootloader unlocking for Verizon-specific Moto devices relating to subsidy (SIM) unlocking.
As we all know, the XT1774's bootloader is locked, there is no way around that yet. I have seen people mention that subsidy unlocking allowed their bootloader to be unlocked, but from my testing that is not true.
I tried an H20-Wireless sim, and an US Cellular sim; obviously I also got an unlock code. Neither of the sims changed my get_unlock_data, so neither would unlock the bootloader.
Just wanted to disprove any of these claims so no one wastes their time. Thanks.
A.Fitz said:
Hey y'all, Verizon Moto E4 Plus (XT1774) owner here. I've seen a couple posts on XDA and other Android forums about bootloader unlocking for Verizon-specific Moto devices relating to subsidy (SIM) unlocking.
As we all know, the XT1774's bootloader is locked, there is no way around that yet. I have seen people mention that subsidy unlocking allowed their bootloader to be unlocked, but from my testing that is not true.
I tried an H20-Wireless sim, and an US Cellular sim; obviously I also got an unlock code. Neither of the sims changed my get_unlock_data, so neither would unlock the bootloader.
Just wanted to disprove any of these claims so no one wastes their time. Thanks.
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You are correct. If unlocking your bootloader to customize the device is the goal, you need to steer clear of any Verizon branded devices. ATT, Sprint and a few others will also not allow bootloaders to be unlocked.
I have found that to be safe, purchase the device straight from Motorola as an unlocked device (Any US carrier/international) is the way to go. You will not get a discount like you do when purchasing through a carrier or big store name like Walmart but you will get a device that allows for bootloader unlocking.
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You are correct. If unlocking your bootloader to customize the device is the goal, you need to steer clear of any Verizon branded devices. ATT, Sprint and a few others will also not allow bootloaders to be unlocked.
I have found that to be safe, purchase the device straight from Motorola as an unlocked device (Any US carrier/international) is the way to go. You will not get a discount like you do when purchasing through a carrier or big store name like Walmart but you will get a device that allows for bootloader unlocking.
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I don't know about ATT, but all the Sprint/boost/virgin mobile devices ARE unlockable. It's only the Verizon variant that isn't. This is how it's been for some time.
aj2333 said:
I don't know about ATT, but all the Sprint/boost/virgin mobile devices ARE unlockable. It's only the Verizon variant that isn't. This is how it's been for some time.
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I agree, but lately, Sprint has stopped support for bootloader unlocking. I read this directly from there site. It may be a little while tool it trickles down to current production devices but beware. And I am taking about Sprint Branded devices, and not devices you bring in on your own.
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I agree, but lately, Sprint has stopped support for bootloader unlocking. I read this directly from there site. It may be a little while tool it trickles down to current production devices but beware. And I am taking about Sprint Branded devices, and not devices you bring in on your own.
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Thanks for the heads-up. I guess I'll have to start buying retail models. A little more $, but I'm very tired of the cdma data problems on custom ROMs every time there's a new Android version or new device anyway.
aj2333 said:
Thanks for the heads-up. I guess I'll have to start buying retail models. A little more $, but I'm very tired of the cdma data problems on custom ROMs every time there's a new Android version or new device anyway.
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I hear ya. Where I live Verizon is there only network that is any good/dependable. As much as I despise BigRed, I have to use it. If I had my way I would go Boost Mobile or any other GSM network carrier. That would open up the doors for my YouTube channel and allow me to test more devices the right way and not just in WiFi. I love my OnePlus5 but can only use it with WiFi. So I can't fully enjoy it. But it would in GSM.
They do make a device that is unlocked for the US Big 4 carriers and that's what I bought. Subsidy unlock to my knowledge does not bootloader unlock your device. If I see a really good Rom come out, I'll look at it, but Motorola did a really terrific job keeping what they did to it "light". At the price I paid for it ($159.99); I might buy another one and store it, though I have read a few threads that indicate that Motorola won't update the device to Oreo.
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They do make a device that is unlocked for the US Big 4 carriers and that's what I bought. Subsidy unlock to my knowledge does not bootloader unlock your device. If I see a really good Rom come out, I'll look at it, but Motorola did a really terrific job keeping what they did to it "light". At the price I paid for it ($159.99); I might buy another one and store it, though I have read a few threads that indicate that Motorola won't update the device to Oreo.
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I see if you got your device from Walmart. It will would be able to remove the bootloader? Do I have have to get Verizon to take the lock off? Or has anyone been able to take the bootloader off of Walmart prepaid Verizon xt1774? This will be my first build. I could use all the advice and help! Thanks
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I see if you got your device from Walmart. It will would be able to remove the bootloader? Do I have have to get Verizon to take the lock off? Or has anyone been able to take the bootloader off of Walmart prepaid Verizon xt1774? This will be my first build. I could use all the advice and help! Thanks
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You cannot unlock the bootloader of the XT1774. No ifs, and, nor buts.
just got new one today and was gonna to use xposed-after do some reading...smh, should have read before buying to make sure all is set to unlock and flash