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Is there anyway to FORCE the apps to use the MicroSD memory instead of the Internal storage?
It seems every app I've installed ( Dropbox, Google Docs, Evernote, etc) uses the internal memory. I have a 32GB MicroSD that seems to be useless right now. I tried moving all the apps to SD, but they still use the Internal Memory to store cache/files
I have yet to see a fix for this as well. The way I work around this is if the app saves files to the internal storage there is usually a setting in the settings menu that will allow you to change where it saves files. For instance with the TapeRecorder app. It automatically saves files to the sdcard (which Motorola stupidly named the internal storage for). I go to the settings and change the "sdcard" to "sdcard-ext", then it works!
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
Sorry this next generation android phone just like Droid X it has dedicated app memory. That memory is used strictly for those apps. U can put 500 apps and not run out of room. SD card is used for media music movies etc
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Groid said:
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
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Is this why When I selected "Move to Media Area" the application shortcut disappears from the "All Apps" menu?
I moved 2 games to the "Media Area" and now they are gone... they are still installed, but I have no way of accessing them. (I know they are still installed because when I went to reinstall, it said something about it replacing an app thats already install)
After researching more, and fumbling through the phone I discovered that Motorola has deemed the 8GB of Internal memory as an SDCard.
Another FAIL for Motorola, and I doubt there will ever be a fix for this. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Stated on the Motorola Forums:
Folks, it's the storage naming system in Android. If you go to any forum for any phone with internal and external memory you'll see the same complaints. There are multiple threads about it here.
Even though in Motorola's file manager you see "internal phone memory" and "SD Card", the internal memory is actually "sdcard" and the external is "sdcard-ext". Like I said, it's like this on every brand of phone with this set up.
So, what's happening is the apps are saving to the internal memory because it is, in fact, the SD card. Motorola has tried to remedy this confusion by discontinuing to say "move to SD" and instead now calls it "Move to Media area".
And no, your external SD is not useless. You can still set your photos from the camera to save directly to your external, you can still put music and movies and all kinds of media on your external and your phone will see them just fine. This is why there is a 16GB card included with your phone, so you can use it for media and if you want to move your apps off of the system memory to save space you move it to the 8GB internal area. Of course 8GB is still plenty of space for apps and other media as well
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EDIT: BFirebird101 stated this to, I don't know why, but when I was scrolling it passed over his post. Didn't mean to restate what he said.
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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Tornlogic said:
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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The Stock Music App seems to find the music files just fine on the MicroSD (just add some to try) and the Gallery Finds the Pictures. But I don't give a damn about Music or Pictures.
I have 123MB of the "Internal Memory" (SDCard) left - after I loaded all my work documents (spreadsheets, powerpoints, etc) & E-books. Right now I have to Move the file from the SDcard (InternalMemory) to the SDCard-Ext(MicroSD) after I've edit it and reuploaded it to Google Docs, then if I want to Edit it agian, I have to move it back to the SDCard(Internal Memory) Just so Google Docs will see it again.
Stock? That's okay, I'll pass. I froze those apps with TiBackup.
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i use videovault and when i pulled my video vault folder from my old backup and loaded it to the external SD, the VideoVault did not find them. There is no way i will load 4GB of videos into my Internal 8GB card just so i can haz my pronz!
What I noticed is this seems to be very similar to how the Xoom and Honeycomb handles sdcards and internal storage (minus the fact that we still cant write to sdcards on stock honeycomb....) so it could be Motorola setup the phone this way for a smoother migration to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out?
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
You would think with all the Smart/Nerdy People on this site, someone would come up with a way to Rename the partitions Motorola has setup.
If it was just possible to rename the "SDCard-Ext" To "SDCard" ...
The reason you have no issue is Asus did a hack mod to get the SD card to work. Moto did the same on European xooms but on USA version its a google product there fore moto has no control on software manipulation. As for apps to SD card there is no need the device has dedicated app storage stritctly for apps.
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If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
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I just have a weired problem on my HTC One.
When I plug it into PC there is a folder called "Storage", in it are some of my music files (only SOME).
Also some of my files (those mentioned above) are 2 times in my Music App. One time at "storage/emulated/legaxy/Music/" and at "storage/emulated/0", but its one file because when I delete it frmo one location it gets deleted at the other too.
Anyone can help me to get rid of one of that storage lpcations?
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It's intentional, there are a few ways of getting to the sdcard location, they're just symlinks. Without them, older apps won't work.
Not sure why your music app can see both, did you mess with it's search paths?
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It's intentional, there are a few ways of getting to the sdcard location, they're just symlinks. Without them, older apps won't work.
Not sure why your music app can see both, did you mess with it's search paths?
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No haven't changed anything there... Maybe a app like SD Maid or CleanMaster is causing this?
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With Interop Unlock, there's any chance to install or move apps on SD cards?
Currently testing this out. Games won't work too well on an SD card unless you own a class 10
Could you post which registry key to change to install on SD?
Its not simply a registry key.
It's not even about wether it is class 10 or not. WP7 devices had huge problems with their internal SD cards due to the fact that the random access time was terrible. The SD card class tells you only about transfer rate though.
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It's not even about wether it is class 10 or not. WP7 devices had huge problems with their internal SD cards due to the fact that the random access time was terrible. The SD card class tells you only about transfer rate though.
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yep. random access is worse on most (big) class 10 cards afaik
It should be possible. You might have to install the app on your phone. Create the directory on the SD card and move the files to the SD card. And find a way to redirect all entries from the phone to the SD card. Access time shouldn't be a big factor, because windows phone apps load into the phones memory. This is all speculation though. I don't think you can install from the store to the phone. Unless there's a way to change the install path of apps in the registry. Again, all speculation.
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Access time was a huge issue with SD cards on WP7. And it was "supported" there. I don't assume it would have become less of an issue on an OS that does NOT support it.
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It should be possible. You might have to install the app on your phone. Create the directory on the SD card and move the files to the SD card. And find a way to redirect all entries from the phone to the SD card. Access time shouldn't be a big factor, because windows phone apps load into the phones memory. This is all speculation though. I don't think you can install from the store to the phone. Unless there's a way to change the install path of apps in the registry. Again, all speculation.
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I've got the same thought recently. If it would be possible to create a junction link in Phone\Data\programs, then it should work, cause windows doesn't really "know" that junctions are only links, it handles this as a directory...
on a "normal" Windows it must be a shell command like
mklink /j C:\Data\programs\{GUID from App} D:\{copy of the entire GUID-App-Directory from C:\Data\programs}
sorry for my "poor" description, but maybe someone got an idea...?
You all are missing a really critical problem: apps (unless they have ID_CAP_PUBLIC_FOLDER_FULL or similar) cannot actually access the SD card (ID_CAP_REMOVABLESTORAGE goes through an out-of-process RPC service; the app itself still can't access the card). Trust me, moving an app's binaries and data files to a location that the app cannot access does *not* end well (in related news, I can't launch Calculator on my phone anymore).
Oh, by the way, symlinks require some registry tweaks (in HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FileSystem) to work. Otherwise, you get these nasty and useless error messages about the link being "disabled" if you try to do anything with it (creating it works, but not much else). This probably won't affect hardlinks or junctions, though.
how to downloada app higher than 50 MB in phone without wi fi connection????
my phone is lumia 720. I have no wi fi connection, so i can't able to download the games like Six Guns from the store.
is there any way to download the app in uc browser and install manually in windows phone. I downloaded the app google.xap from windowsphone.com app and games section in uc browser. But when i try to install the file it shows a error.
First point: stop using all bold. It's just kind of annoying.
Second point. it's up to your carrier. Overriding that setting is currently not possible on Nokia WP8 devices.
Third point: If you phone has a microSD card (I forget whether the Lumia 720 supports one or not), then yes, there is a way. Download the app (on your PC) from the Windows Phone Apps + Games website. It will be a .XAP file (don't bother trying to open it; it's encrypted using PlayReady DRM). Put that file on the microSD card (either by removing the card from the phone and using a card-writer on your PC, or by attaching the phone over USB and writing to the SDCard "folder" using Windows Explorer). Then on the phone, open the Store. You should see an option of "SD Card", and you should be able to install the app from there. Note: this only works for store apps, and it still needs an Internet connection, but it works for large apps.
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First point: stop using all bold. It's just kind of annoying.
Second point. it's up to your carrier. Overriding that setting is currently not possible on Nokia WP8 devices.
Third point: If you phone has a microSD card (I forget whether the Lumia 720 supports one or not), then yes, there is a way. Download the app (on your PC) from the Windows Phone Apps + Games website. It will be a .XAP file (don't bother trying to open it; it's encrypted using PlayReady DRM). Put that file on the microSD card (either by removing the card from the phone and using a card-writer on your PC, or by attaching the phone over USB and writing to the SDCard "folder" using Windows Explorer). Then on the phone, open the Store. You should see an option of "SD Card", and you should be able to install the app from there. Note: this only works for store apps, and it still needs an Internet connection, but it works for large apps.
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I know how install app from sd card.
just want to know how to download in mobile...
anyway thanx
You could try using a proxy server to override the maximum download over cellular data rule. The phone only checks that once a day though, I think, and it's checked in the background (you can't trigger it). Still, changing that value might do the trick.
I really can't imagine anywhere in the world where using that much cellular data costs less than going to somewhere with WiFi though, or even getting a WiFi adaptor for your PC.
Also, your phone *might* download via the PC's connection if you're connected over USB. WP7 would; I'm not sure if WP8 does or not. It still has a IP-over-USB connection, but the only thing I *know* it's used for is communicating with the Visual Studio debugger.
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First point: stop using all bold. It's just kind of annoying.
Second point. it's up to your carrier. Overriding that setting is currently not possible on Nokia WP8 devices.
Third point: If you phone has a microSD card (I forget whether the Lumia 720 supports one or not), then yes, there is a way. Download the app (on your PC) from the Windows Phone Apps + Games website. It will be a .XAP file (don't bother trying to open it; it's encrypted using PlayReady DRM). Put that file on the microSD card (either by removing the card from the phone and using a card-writer on your PC, or by attaching the phone over USB and writing to the SDCard "folder" using Windows Explorer). Then on the phone, open the Store. You should see an option of "SD Card", and you should be able to install the app from there. Note: this only works for store apps, and it still needs an Internet connection, but it works for large apps.
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Thanks! It helped me!
Hello,
I would like to know how I can make an app on my sd card...for example...es file manager...to automatically install itself onto a android tablet once inserted into the tablets sd card slot. I think scripting may be involved but I'm not sure. I have done nothing.
Thanks
Titanium backup should be able to run a Tasker app command..
haven't tried it though
Tasker
Thanks for your reply.
I'm wondering if is possible for an app to auto install without piggy backing on another app.
Riley32334 said:
Thanks for your reply.
I'm wondering if is possible for an app to auto install without piggy backing on another app.
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i believe you mean this?
but i can't remember exactly how i enabled that if what you're asking..
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Not quite. The Titanium backup will be necessary on the other device as well in order for an application to auto-run itself.
I am more interested in learning how to make apps I download to a chip auto install itself once I insert that chip into another device. Something like what a CD does when you put it into a computer.
Is this even possible?
Riley32334 said:
Hello,
I would like to know how I can make an app on my sd card...for example...es file manager...to automatically install itself onto a android tablet once inserted into the tablets sd card slot. I think scripting may be involved but I'm not sure. I have done nothing.
Thanks
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Please explain why you want to do this. Some context will help us give you a suitable answer.
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I bought this very cheap off-brand Android OS tablet off FB sales and it is limited to its pre-installed games. I can't do anything in the settings menu except view/uninstall the pre-installed apps and set the clock. This tablet doesn't have any USB ports, but it does have a micro SD card reader, headphone jack, and DC charging port. The card reader reads and plays (through the factory installed media player app) mp3 files and mp4 files on any micro SD card I place in it. I tried placing a micro SD card with other file formats (apk/pdf/epub) on it but nothing happens besides a notification saying, "SD card mounted." I am looking for a method that will have any APK ( specifically a file explorer app) on a micro SD card I insert auto-install or at least have the "install" dialog box pop up in order to expand the capabilities of this crappy tablet. Thank you for any and all assistance.
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I bought this very cheap off-brand Android OS tablet off FB sales and it is limited to its pre-installed games. I can't do anything in the settings menu except view/uninstall the pre-installed apps and set the clock. This tablet doesn't have any USB ports, but it does have a micro SD card reader, headphone jack, and DC charging port. The card reader reads and plays (through the factory installed media player app) mp3 files and mp4 files on any micro SD card I place in it. I tried placing a micro SD card with other file formats (apk/pdf/epub) on it but nothing happens besides a notification saying, "SD card mounted." I am looking for a method that will have any APK ( specifically a file explorer app) on a micro SD card I insert auto-install or at least have the "install" dialog box pop up in order to expand the capabilities of this crappy tablet. Thank you for any and all assistance.
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Okay, thanks for the explanation. I can tell you now, without any doubt whatsoever, that you cannot do what you're asking. You hit the nail on the head when you called it a "crappy tablet".
Without USB you're left with no options other than to install what it already allows you to install. Honestly, I'd say ditch it and get another cheap tablet, but make sure it just has regular Android on it and is not locked down.
Crap
Thanks for the information. I love saving a buck or two. I was really hoping to put movies, music, and apps on there for my daughter. I thought for sure I could get file manager on there some way.
Thanks again