I am going to buy a Moto X in the US and use it abroad. May I get some suggestion about which version to buy other than the Dev Ed because I managed to get a promotion code which can only be used for MotoMaker ones.
Is there any version that is unlocked for sim cards other than the carrier indicated?
which version is easier to root and unlock the BL of Moto X?
Thank you very much.
charcoalbox said:
I am going to buy a Moto X in the US and use it abroad. May I get some suggestion about which version to buy other than the Dev Ed because I managed to get a promotion code which can only be used for MotoMaker ones.
Is there any version that is unlocked for sim cards other than the carrier indicated?
which version is easier to root and unlock the BL of Moto X?
Thank you very much.
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TMo
TMO is sim unlocked and bootloader unlockable
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TMo
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Thank you!
yghrv said:
TMO is sim unlocked and bootloader unlockable
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Thanks alot.
I'm going to Mexico in January and I have the Verizon Dev edition; as far as I know, it has the same internals as the standard moto x, only the bootloader being unlockable is different. It's my understanding that Verzion phones come carrier unlocked, and the new ones (including the x) have gsm bands as well as cdma and LTE bands. My mexican (telcel) sim card shipped today so I should find out soon. These are the bands included in the verizon moto x:
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
LTE B13/4 700/1700
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS( 850/900/1900/2100), HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 20), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
As long as your overseas carrier offers one of those you should be fine. Also, if you're about to buy, I'd hold off for a week if you can. I hear wood backs are coming to moto maker.
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I'm going to Mexico in January and I have the Verizon Dev edition; as far as I know, it has the same internals as the standard moto x, only the bootloader being unlockable is different. It's my understanding that Verzion phones come carrier unlocked, and the new ones (including the x) have gsm bands as well as cdma and LTE bands. My mexican (telcel) sim card shipped today so I should find out soon. These are the bands included in the verizon moto x:
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
LTE B13/4 700/1700
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS( 850/900/1900/2100), HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 20), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
As long as your overseas carrier offers one of those you should be fine. Also, if you're about to buy, I'd hold off for a week if you can. I hear wood backs are coming to moto maker.
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Have you confirmed if it worked or not? I am thinking of sending a few to Honduras to run on Claro and it looks like they should be able to get nano sims there since Claro offers the iPhone 5S. They currently all have Droid 3 phones.
I've got an ATT Moto X, proparly unlocked; works fine in Europe, w/o any issues! Few ATT spamware (phonebook, backup) disabled, everything else is just fine pure Android experience. Got mine from Ebay.
Best to get the T-Mobile Moto X. Why is because it comes unlocked for GSM networks right out of the box and furthermore, it doesn't even have a carrier logo on the back.
I got one and its happily working fine in Malaysia with no network issues.
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I believe the T-Mobile one is the best global solution as xylencia mentioned, it comes carrier unlocked (not bootloader unlocked, as some confuse the difference). I just took my moto to Canada and got a nano Sim from telus, paid $30 for a month and its working great.
I moved away from Verizon because their phones don't work on any other network (unless things have changed recently)
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I believe the T-Mobile one is the best global solution as xylencia mentioned, it comes carrier unlocked (not bootloader unlocked, as some confuse the difference). I just took my moto to Canada and got a nano Sim from telus, paid $30 for a month and its working great.
I moved away from Verizon because their phones don't work on any other network (unless things have changed recently)
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Verizon LTE devices come sim unlocked for GSM carriers. It's part of an agreement with the FCC. You can use it stateside and globally.
T-Mobile or the Dev gsm is best for travel other than for Korea and Japan and even then you will have 3g
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xylencia said:
Best to get the T-Mobile Moto X. Why is because it comes unlocked for GSM networks right out of the box and furthermore, it doesn't even have a carrier logo on the back.
I got one and its happily working fine in Malaysia with no network issues.
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Cool. Moreover, I actually used LiveChat with a Motorola rep and she confirmed that only T-Mobile's version comes carrier unlocked out of the box. Even though NO CONTRACT options are also available with the other carriers.
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To all international buyers: use the attached table to choose the best version for you
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Correct me if I am wrong, Europe uses 4G band 7 right? Which GSM Dev Moto X doesn't support.
kolyan said:
Correct me if I am wrong, Europe uses 4G band 7 right? Which GSM Dev Moto X doesn't support.
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You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
amarguli said:
You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
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That sucks. I am pretty sure T-Mobile S4 had band 7... ..I checked Nexus 5 also doesn't have it.
Well if u really need LTE on 2600, just buy the ATT version and have it unlocked by a third party. Probably cost u something like ten bucks.
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You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
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Now is not the only model at the moment. European Moto X (I don't know model number yet) supports band 7 too
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Well if u really need LTE on 2600, just buy the ATT version and have it unlocked by a third party. Probably cost u something like ten bucks.
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But ATT doesn't have 1700. All Motos missing something.....sucks
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Does anyone know whether the radios packed into Verizon's Moto X will be able to get 4G data in Hong Kong or Singapore? If I walk into a 7eleven, would I just be able to pick up any SIM and get voice + decent data speeds?
Any help would be most appreciated!
Anthony.
Short and simple answer: no. I believe voice and 3G data shouldn't be a problem, but 4G spectra adopted by both Hong Kong and Singapore are not compatible with that used by Verizon.
Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Yes you can use it on Asia, mostly UTMS / 3G/WCDMA Is using band 2100 mhz, I'm also use Att Moto X unlocked on Indonesia, and Verizon Moto x GSM is already unlock, so you just put you local sim card
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deviantartjr said:
Yes you can use it on Asia, mostly UTMS / 3G/WCDMA Is using band 2100 mhz, I'm also use Att Moto X unlocked on Indonesia, and Verizon Moto x GSM is already unlock, so you just put you local sim card
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OP was asking about 4G.
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stringbean98 said:
Does anyone know whether the radios packed into Verizon's Moto X will be able to get 4G data in Hong Kong or Singapore? If I walk into a 7eleven, would I just be able to pick up any SIM and get voice + decent data speeds?
Any help would be most appreciated!
Anthony.
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I don't think the VZW ones support the 4G data in HongKong. AFAIK, the reogers ones support it.
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OP was asking about 4G.
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Ops..
about 4G lte ,can;t use it because different band
Thanks for the info. I guess having 3G data will be better than nothing. Maybe i won't blow through my data allowance so quickly. Thanks!
deviantartjr said:
Yes you can use it on Asia, mostly UTMS / 3G/WCDMA Is using band 2100 mhz, I'm also use Att Moto X unlocked on Indonesia, and Verizon Moto x GSM is already unlock, so you just put you local sim card
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How did you get your moto x? Im looking for one to use in brunei
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How did you get your moto x? Im looking for one to use in brunei
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i bought it from swappa,then ask my friend at USA to shipping the moto x to indonesia
I am not sure about Verizon. But GSM Developer Edition works will in Singapore. I am using Developer Edition in Singapore
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In addition to CDMA for Verizon, the XT1060 Verizon X supports the following bands...
EDGE/GSM 850/900/1800/1900
HSPA/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100 with Rates of 42.2 Mbps down and 5.76Mbps up depending on the carrier network you connect to.
LTE band 4(AWS) and 13 <- likely not used outside the USA.
So if your carrier uses those, then you should be able to make use of the Verizon X.
You might also have to adjust the phone's APN settings for your carrier.
If you have a Retail or Moto Maker Verizon X, you might have troubles saving any changes you make to the APN settings due to write protection being enabled. (If you have 4.2.2 or 4.4 on your phone, you can Root and Disable Write Protection with the RockMyMoto, SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo processes). If you have a Developer Edition Verizon X, you can unlock its bootloader which will disable Write Protection and makes it easy to root too (once bootloader unlocked, you can flash custom recovery, and install SuperSU from custom recovery to root).
So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
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So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
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i thought that Roger's had something going on that the device is basically locked in to their network... someone else can chime in here.
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So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
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personally i wouldnt mess with trying to switch carriers with the phone.
The Rogers phone can be carrier unlocked. I have one, it's unlocked and working on telus, lte and all.
But, better do some searching, cause I thought I read somewhere that it won't work on wind. Maybe I'm wrong, but better look into it or you may be disappointed.
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It works fine on wind. Had to sim unlock it, but that was it
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OP, based on the replies here, if you have yet to go through with the purchase, be sure to read up on the complications of unlocking the device for other carriers before making the decision that this phone is for you.
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It works fine on wind. Had to sim unlock it, but that was it
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A Rogers XT1058 will not work on Wind, it does not support HSPA on the 1700/2100 Mhz frequency band.
To the OP, you need an XT1053 model of the Moto X to use it with Wind Mobile.
The XT1053 is not sold in Canada, it is sold in the US as the retail/tmobile/gsm dev edition.
Unlocking a Rogers XT1058 is easy and less then 10 bucks but it still won't enable the AWS bands for HSPA. It will only work on Telus, Koodo, Bell, Virgin, Rogers and Fido.
Yup ^^^
That's about what I read. And most unlocked phones I looked at before buying my Moto X said work on all carriers.. Except wind. Not just the Moto x either... The G2 was another for sure.
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Hi
I have ordered Moto x through my friend in US and i am planning to use in India with GSM network
I have confirmed with Motorola help desk and they confirmed saying it will work with International GSM providers.
Is anyone using it now, buying non contract 399$ phone and using it in India or outside US?
Me along with many other forumers that post around here. Using mines all good in The Bahamas. You will be fine.
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It's all about the frequencies that your country/carrier use.
Isn't it a little late to ask this question now when you already have bought the phone?
There are many different Moto X models. Not all can be used internationally. In addition you might need to buy SIM unlock code
Thanks a lot for your replies
I have purchased the unlocked one only
Anyone using in India?
Get the T-Mobile version, it supports the most frequencies, and it's carrier unlocked. That's your best bet.
If you want to make sure, here are the MotoX variants, you can compare the bands they use to your carriers used bands.
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Get the T-Mobile version, it supports the most frequencies, and it's carrier unlocked. That's your best bet.
If you want to make sure, here are the MotoX variants, you can compare the bands they use to your carriers used bands.
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Actually the AT&T version supports the most LTE Bands. Though it's downfall is its carrier locked and comes with AT&T bloat and branding on the back. But unlock codes can be purchased for it though.
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Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
markj1999 said:
Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
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import tax only =))
using AT&T Moto x in Ireland, no probs! The only warning - don't take Sprint's one - you won't be able to unlock it, as it appeared to be pure CDMA device
Basically what okaban said. I'd see if you could get the GSM unlocked version (as called the T-Mobile version) but if there's an AT&T Moto X you really like you should be fine. If you see a Verizon one you like, I don't think you need to modify anything if you're not in the US. I know this was the case with my RAZR M (I had to unlock the radio for it to work in the US though).
markj1999 said:
Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
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You can't have UK LTE bands on US phones: I think that LTE might be already a factor deserving consideration in the UK. In the UK you have 800/1800/2600 MHz and the only US model which supports at least 2600 is ATT. It might be better with Latin America models but I'm not sure.
If LTE is an issue for you, I would wait for the 32gb European model.
If it's not an issue for you, you would be ok with a ATT or the Dev Edition GSM version (which I have been using since Thursday in Ireland)
Tapatalked from my MotoX Dev Edition.
I have at&t moto x and it shows 4G sign in UK, so it must be working
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I have at&t moto x and it shows 4G sign in UK, so it must be working
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4G label is how Moto X shows HDSPA+ network connection.
Yep, I'm using a GSM DE (xt1053) in Spain and it shows "4G", where 3g+-only phones would display "H".
This is not LTE, and no US model will ever work on any European LTE (real 4G) network that I'm aware of regardless of whether or not you try flashing country-specific firmware. The LTE radios are physically different. LTE doesn't exist where I am so it's not a concern, but if you have access to an LTE signal then DEFINITELY spend the extra cash for your country-specific model.
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4G label is how Moto X shows HDSPA+ network connection.
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Not true....
I have an XT1058 in Chile, I get 4G as LTE.
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Not true....
I have an XT1058 in Chile, I get 4G as LTE.
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The US market is a little nuts so US phones show 4G for HSPA and 4GLTE for LTE connections. The rest of the world(most of it anyway) shows the proper protocol for the connection type. (H, LTE etc)
Hello
My friend spoted on ebay that the Moto X Xt1058 is in good price 280$ (at least for me this is good price - I would prefere a version from moto maker but its to expensive)
Will this version work properly in Poland with my GSM provieder?
The bands of my GSM provider are:
"PLAY" uses EGSM 900 for its 2G services and UMTS 2100 and UMTS 900 for 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_(telecommunications)
Play - LTE 1800 MHz
thanks for support
It will work but LTE is probably not going to work
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Penetratore said:
Hello
My friend spoted on ebay that the Moto X Xt1058 is in good price 280$ (at least for me this is good price - I would prefere a version from moto maker but its to expensive)
Will this version work properly in Poland with my GSM provieder?
The bands of my GSM provider are:
"PLAY" uses EGSM 900 for its 2G services and UMTS 2100 and UMTS 900 for 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_(telecommunications)
Play - LTE 1800 MHz
thanks for support
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All XT1058 Variants support ALL the GSM & UMTS bands you have listed.
If possible, don't get the AT&T version because you cannot unlock the bootloader, and it comes SIM-locked. If you can get the Rogers Canada version or pretty much ANY other XT1058 you should be able to unlock the bootloader and AFAIK all the variants except AT&T come sim-unlocked...
Good Luck
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If possible, don't get the AT&T version because you cannot unlock the bootloader, and it comes SIM-locked. ...
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Thanks for the tip. Root and loading mods is very important to me.
Now the moto x is still the flagship. But soon we will have the succesor. Do you Think it will supported in 1-2 years?
I use an xt1058 (att version) for more than a year in the Netherlands (and the rest of Europe); never had any issues with it, even 4g works as charm.
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I use an xt1058 (att version) for more than a year in the Netherlands (and the rest of Europe); never had any issues with it, even 4g works as charm.
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Thanks for the comment bmszabo. Are you the original owner? Likely someone (yourself even?) had it sim-unlocked....or are the AT&T variants already sim-unlocked for international use? I know for certain that the Sprint XT1056 variants are SIM-locked for both domestic AND international.
As for the bootloader, unless you used the China Middleman, it should still be locked down.
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Thanks for the comment bmszabo. Are you the original owner? Likely someone (yourself even?) had it sim-unlocked....or are the AT&T variants already sim-unlocked for international use? I know for certain that the Sprint XT1056 variants are SIM-locked for both domestic AND international.
As for the bootloader, unless you used the China Middleman, it should still be locked down.
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It was an eBay bargain; sim-unlocked ATT Moto X; don't know HOW it was unlocked, but it works just perfect with my Dutch provider (and any other European carriers). In US workes fine with ATT; only thing, but only if I am in the US is a nag message about 'unable to sign in to ATT', or something similar..
What about the version with "bad ESN" ?
Is it only blocked for US or also for europe ?
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What about the version with "bad ESN" ?
Is it only blocked for US or also for europe ?
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It will depend entirely on whether or not AT&T adds blacklisted IMEIs to the international banned list. Can someone comment on whether or not this data is shared internationally?