So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
Legend28469 said:
So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
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i thought that Roger's had something going on that the device is basically locked in to their network... someone else can chime in here.
Legend28469 said:
So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
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personally i wouldnt mess with trying to switch carriers with the phone.
The Rogers phone can be carrier unlocked. I have one, it's unlocked and working on telus, lte and all.
But, better do some searching, cause I thought I read somewhere that it won't work on wind. Maybe I'm wrong, but better look into it or you may be disappointed.
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It works fine on wind. Had to sim unlock it, but that was it
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OP, based on the replies here, if you have yet to go through with the purchase, be sure to read up on the complications of unlocking the device for other carriers before making the decision that this phone is for you.
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It works fine on wind. Had to sim unlock it, but that was it
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A Rogers XT1058 will not work on Wind, it does not support HSPA on the 1700/2100 Mhz frequency band.
To the OP, you need an XT1053 model of the Moto X to use it with Wind Mobile.
The XT1053 is not sold in Canada, it is sold in the US as the retail/tmobile/gsm dev edition.
Unlocking a Rogers XT1058 is easy and less then 10 bucks but it still won't enable the AWS bands for HSPA. It will only work on Telus, Koodo, Bell, Virgin, Rogers and Fido.
Yup ^^^
That's about what I read. And most unlocked phones I looked at before buying my Moto X said work on all carriers.. Except wind. Not just the Moto x either... The G2 was another for sure.
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I am going to buy a Moto X in the US and use it abroad. May I get some suggestion about which version to buy other than the Dev Ed because I managed to get a promotion code which can only be used for MotoMaker ones.
Is there any version that is unlocked for sim cards other than the carrier indicated?
which version is easier to root and unlock the BL of Moto X?
Thank you very much.
charcoalbox said:
I am going to buy a Moto X in the US and use it abroad. May I get some suggestion about which version to buy other than the Dev Ed because I managed to get a promotion code which can only be used for MotoMaker ones.
Is there any version that is unlocked for sim cards other than the carrier indicated?
which version is easier to root and unlock the BL of Moto X?
Thank you very much.
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TMo
TMO is sim unlocked and bootloader unlockable
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TMo
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Thank you!
yghrv said:
TMO is sim unlocked and bootloader unlockable
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Thanks alot.
I'm going to Mexico in January and I have the Verizon Dev edition; as far as I know, it has the same internals as the standard moto x, only the bootloader being unlockable is different. It's my understanding that Verzion phones come carrier unlocked, and the new ones (including the x) have gsm bands as well as cdma and LTE bands. My mexican (telcel) sim card shipped today so I should find out soon. These are the bands included in the verizon moto x:
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
LTE B13/4 700/1700
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS( 850/900/1900/2100), HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 20), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
As long as your overseas carrier offers one of those you should be fine. Also, if you're about to buy, I'd hold off for a week if you can. I hear wood backs are coming to moto maker.
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I'm going to Mexico in January and I have the Verizon Dev edition; as far as I know, it has the same internals as the standard moto x, only the bootloader being unlockable is different. It's my understanding that Verzion phones come carrier unlocked, and the new ones (including the x) have gsm bands as well as cdma and LTE bands. My mexican (telcel) sim card shipped today so I should find out soon. These are the bands included in the verizon moto x:
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
LTE B13/4 700/1700
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS( 850/900/1900/2100), HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 20), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
As long as your overseas carrier offers one of those you should be fine. Also, if you're about to buy, I'd hold off for a week if you can. I hear wood backs are coming to moto maker.
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Have you confirmed if it worked or not? I am thinking of sending a few to Honduras to run on Claro and it looks like they should be able to get nano sims there since Claro offers the iPhone 5S. They currently all have Droid 3 phones.
I've got an ATT Moto X, proparly unlocked; works fine in Europe, w/o any issues! Few ATT spamware (phonebook, backup) disabled, everything else is just fine pure Android experience. Got mine from Ebay.
Best to get the T-Mobile Moto X. Why is because it comes unlocked for GSM networks right out of the box and furthermore, it doesn't even have a carrier logo on the back.
I got one and its happily working fine in Malaysia with no network issues.
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I believe the T-Mobile one is the best global solution as xylencia mentioned, it comes carrier unlocked (not bootloader unlocked, as some confuse the difference). I just took my moto to Canada and got a nano Sim from telus, paid $30 for a month and its working great.
I moved away from Verizon because their phones don't work on any other network (unless things have changed recently)
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skotturi said:
I believe the T-Mobile one is the best global solution as xylencia mentioned, it comes carrier unlocked (not bootloader unlocked, as some confuse the difference). I just took my moto to Canada and got a nano Sim from telus, paid $30 for a month and its working great.
I moved away from Verizon because their phones don't work on any other network (unless things have changed recently)
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Verizon LTE devices come sim unlocked for GSM carriers. It's part of an agreement with the FCC. You can use it stateside and globally.
T-Mobile or the Dev gsm is best for travel other than for Korea and Japan and even then you will have 3g
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xylencia said:
Best to get the T-Mobile Moto X. Why is because it comes unlocked for GSM networks right out of the box and furthermore, it doesn't even have a carrier logo on the back.
I got one and its happily working fine in Malaysia with no network issues.
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Cool. Moreover, I actually used LiveChat with a Motorola rep and she confirmed that only T-Mobile's version comes carrier unlocked out of the box. Even though NO CONTRACT options are also available with the other carriers.
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To all international buyers: use the attached table to choose the best version for you
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Correct me if I am wrong, Europe uses 4G band 7 right? Which GSM Dev Moto X doesn't support.
kolyan said:
Correct me if I am wrong, Europe uses 4G band 7 right? Which GSM Dev Moto X doesn't support.
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You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
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You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
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That sucks. I am pretty sure T-Mobile S4 had band 7... ..I checked Nexus 5 also doesn't have it.
Well if u really need LTE on 2600, just buy the ATT version and have it unlocked by a third party. Probably cost u something like ten bucks.
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You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
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Now is not the only model at the moment. European Moto X (I don't know model number yet) supports band 7 too
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Well if u really need LTE on 2600, just buy the ATT version and have it unlocked by a third party. Probably cost u something like ten bucks.
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But ATT doesn't have 1700. All Motos missing something.....sucks
Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
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Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
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import tax only =))
using AT&T Moto x in Ireland, no probs! The only warning - don't take Sprint's one - you won't be able to unlock it, as it appeared to be pure CDMA device
Basically what okaban said. I'd see if you could get the GSM unlocked version (as called the T-Mobile version) but if there's an AT&T Moto X you really like you should be fine. If you see a Verizon one you like, I don't think you need to modify anything if you're not in the US. I know this was the case with my RAZR M (I had to unlock the radio for it to work in the US though).
markj1999 said:
Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
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You can't have UK LTE bands on US phones: I think that LTE might be already a factor deserving consideration in the UK. In the UK you have 800/1800/2600 MHz and the only US model which supports at least 2600 is ATT. It might be better with Latin America models but I'm not sure.
If LTE is an issue for you, I would wait for the 32gb European model.
If it's not an issue for you, you would be ok with a ATT or the Dev Edition GSM version (which I have been using since Thursday in Ireland)
Tapatalked from my MotoX Dev Edition.
I have at&t moto x and it shows 4G sign in UK, so it must be working
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I have at&t moto x and it shows 4G sign in UK, so it must be working
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4G label is how Moto X shows HDSPA+ network connection.
Yep, I'm using a GSM DE (xt1053) in Spain and it shows "4G", where 3g+-only phones would display "H".
This is not LTE, and no US model will ever work on any European LTE (real 4G) network that I'm aware of regardless of whether or not you try flashing country-specific firmware. The LTE radios are physically different. LTE doesn't exist where I am so it's not a concern, but if you have access to an LTE signal then DEFINITELY spend the extra cash for your country-specific model.
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4G label is how Moto X shows HDSPA+ network connection.
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Not true....
I have an XT1058 in Chile, I get 4G as LTE.
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Not true....
I have an XT1058 in Chile, I get 4G as LTE.
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The US market is a little nuts so US phones show 4G for HSPA and 4GLTE for LTE connections. The rest of the world(most of it anyway) shows the proper protocol for the connection type. (H, LTE etc)
Hello
My friend spoted on ebay that the Moto X Xt1058 is in good price 280$ (at least for me this is good price - I would prefere a version from moto maker but its to expensive)
Will this version work properly in Poland with my GSM provieder?
The bands of my GSM provider are:
"PLAY" uses EGSM 900 for its 2G services and UMTS 2100 and UMTS 900 for 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_(telecommunications)
Play - LTE 1800 MHz
thanks for support
It will work but LTE is probably not going to work
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Penetratore said:
Hello
My friend spoted on ebay that the Moto X Xt1058 is in good price 280$ (at least for me this is good price - I would prefere a version from moto maker but its to expensive)
Will this version work properly in Poland with my GSM provieder?
The bands of my GSM provider are:
"PLAY" uses EGSM 900 for its 2G services and UMTS 2100 and UMTS 900 for 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_(telecommunications)
Play - LTE 1800 MHz
thanks for support
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All XT1058 Variants support ALL the GSM & UMTS bands you have listed.
If possible, don't get the AT&T version because you cannot unlock the bootloader, and it comes SIM-locked. If you can get the Rogers Canada version or pretty much ANY other XT1058 you should be able to unlock the bootloader and AFAIK all the variants except AT&T come sim-unlocked...
Good Luck
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Thanks for the tip. Root and loading mods is very important to me.
Now the moto x is still the flagship. But soon we will have the succesor. Do you Think it will supported in 1-2 years?
I use an xt1058 (att version) for more than a year in the Netherlands (and the rest of Europe); never had any issues with it, even 4g works as charm.
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I use an xt1058 (att version) for more than a year in the Netherlands (and the rest of Europe); never had any issues with it, even 4g works as charm.
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Thanks for the comment bmszabo. Are you the original owner? Likely someone (yourself even?) had it sim-unlocked....or are the AT&T variants already sim-unlocked for international use? I know for certain that the Sprint XT1056 variants are SIM-locked for both domestic AND international.
As for the bootloader, unless you used the China Middleman, it should still be locked down.
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Thanks for the comment bmszabo. Are you the original owner? Likely someone (yourself even?) had it sim-unlocked....or are the AT&T variants already sim-unlocked for international use? I know for certain that the Sprint XT1056 variants are SIM-locked for both domestic AND international.
As for the bootloader, unless you used the China Middleman, it should still be locked down.
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It was an eBay bargain; sim-unlocked ATT Moto X; don't know HOW it was unlocked, but it works just perfect with my Dutch provider (and any other European carriers). In US workes fine with ATT; only thing, but only if I am in the US is a nag message about 'unable to sign in to ATT', or something similar..
What about the version with "bad ESN" ?
Is it only blocked for US or also for europe ?
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What about the version with "bad ESN" ?
Is it only blocked for US or also for europe ?
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It will depend entirely on whether or not AT&T adds blacklisted IMEIs to the international banned list. Can someone comment on whether or not this data is shared internationally?
Hi -
Currently I am using a Verizon Moto X 16gb stock phone. I am going to be going to Spain for the year and am trying to figure out if I will be able to use the phone as is in Europe, or if I will need to do anything to it. Any help would be appreciated. I've read through the forums and there are a lot of threads out there on Tmobile and ATT phones, but can't seem to find a clear answer on my Verizon Moto X.
Thanks in advance!
There are several things to consider.
The Verizon Moto X is sim unlocked, so you can insert a SIM card from another carrier and use it.
Depending on the European carrier you pick, you may only get EDGE service. It really depends on the UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ frequencies those carriers use, and are they compatible with what the Verizon X supports. (VZW X supports the following bands for UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B2/B1)
Do not expect to get LTE over seas. The Verizon Moto X supports LTE Band 13 and band 4. I do not believe these are used in Europe.
You might have to enter the APN settings for the European carrier to get working voice, data, sms, mms, etc. The carrier you pick should be able to help you with this if its needed.
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Currently I am using a Verizon Moto X 16gb stock phone. I am going to be going to Spain for the year and am trying to figure out if I will be able to use the phone as is in Europe, or if I will need to do anything to it. Any help would be appreciated. I've read through the forums and there are a lot of threads out there on Tmobile and ATT phones, but can't seem to find a clear answer on my Verizon Moto X.
Thanks in advance!
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From what I understand, the VZW Moto X is already SIM unlocked for international use. There are reports that the most recent updates caused problems using domestic (U.S.) GSM providers, but I'm pretty sure you can use international GSM services without issue.
One way to find out....pop a SIM in and try! This may be difficult if you are still in the U.S., so perhaps someone with the VZW variant can comment here and confirm.
OR...if you don't plan to use Verizon again, you might consider selling it on Swappa and buying a GSM Unlocked version...the European model would probably be most likely to support all the frequencies you will encounter in Spain - if you can get your hands on one.
Good Luck
Quick rundown of my situation....
I was using an XT1097 on AT&T, broke my screen and went through Motorola to replace it. For a replacement they sent me an XT1095. Opened it up and immediately took the Lollipop update but everything on it is T-Mo, including the baseband. Maybe it's just in my head but I feel like the 4G coverage is not the same. Places at my job I used to get service and 4G do not work anymore or are very spotty. Would having all the T-Mo info on it affect me? Is there anyway to put the AT&T stuff back on it? I unlocked the bootloader, rooted and installed TWRP.
Just not sure what my options are....
KB
KB Smoka said:
Quick rundown of my situation....
I was using an XT1097 on AT&T, broke my screen and went through Motorola to replace it. For a replacement they sent me an XT1095. Opened it up and immediately took the Lollipop update but everything on it is T-Mo, including the baseband. Maybe it's just in my head but I feel like the 4G coverage is not the same. Places at my job I used to get service and 4G do not work anymore or are very spotty. Would having all the T-Mo info on it affect me? Is there anyway to put the AT&T stuff back on it? I unlocked the bootloader, rooted and installed TWRP.
Just not sure what my options are....
KB
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The hardware is different. AT&T uses a LTE band that the 1095 is missing. Maybe changing the APN could have more signal but I doubt ...
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Didn't Motorola restore the missing bands in the PE with the 5.0 update?
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Didn't Motorola restore the missing bands in the PE with the 5.0 update?
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XT1095 (GSM Unlocked US Pure edition), UMTS Bands (850/900/1700/1900/2100), LTE Bands (2/3/4/5/7/17/29) [Sim unlocked and capatable with most GSM networks including AT&T and T-Mobile; LTE bands software restricted to 2/4/17]
XT1097 (AT&T US, Retail Brazil), UMTS Bands (850,900,1700,1900,2100), LTE Bands (2/3/4/5/7/17/29) [The AT&T doesn't support LTE band 29 (software restricted) and is SIM locked whereas the non-US variants are SIM unlocked]
try flashing a xt1097 modem in order to use the LTE bands you company requires.
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try flashing a xt1097 modem in order to use the LTE bands you company requires.
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I was't sure if there were any risks in doing that but I will certainly look into it....
I guess I've been lucky, my xt1095 works just as great as my xt1097 did on att.
There is a thread over on motorola's forum that states that the software restriction to 2/4/17 present on XT1095 with KK was removed with the OTA to LL. So it should support the same LTE bands as the ATT version.
Performance between the two phones should be identical as they have the exact same hardware and Motorola enabled all of the bands on the XT1095.
I have seen phones take time to build a list of available signals in the area though.
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Performance between the two phones should be identical as they have the exact same hardware and Motorola enabled all of the bands on the XT1095.
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So once MoFo is opened up for the ATT XT1097, they should be able to flash XT1095 images as long as they are in ext4 format?
Or another way of thinking about it, if the ATT XT1097's bootloader could be unlocked (i know currently it can't be) then they should be able to flash XT1095 Custom ROMs correct?
Yes it should be fine. It's the same thing done with XT1097's from other providers that do allow boot loader unlocking such as Telus and Wind Mobile in Canada.
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There is a thread over on motorola's forum that states that the software restriction to 2/4/17 present on XT1095 with KK was removed with the OTA to LL. So it should support the same LTE bands as the ATT version.
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No, it hasn't been removed yet. It's been confirmed that at some point they will activate those bands but it hasn't been done yet.
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Performance between the two phones should be identical as they have the exact same hardware and Motorola enabled all of the bands on the XT1095.
I have seen phones take time to build a list of available signals in the area though.
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It's definitely not identical and from what I've read they have not activated all of the bands yet. Hopefully soon.
There is no way to tell what bands are available on the phone is there?
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No, it hasn't been removed yet. It's been confirmed that at some point they will activate those bands but it hasn't been done yet.
It's definitely not identical and from what I've read they have not activated all of the bands yet. Hopefully soon.
There is no way to tell what bands are available on the phone is there?
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Are you sure? There are people posting over at Motorola's forum saying that since they took the LL OTA with the new baseband, they have been able to get LTE on bands 3,5 and 7.
I can't check this myself. I always connect to ATT's LTE on band 17 on my XT1095. I used LTE discovery to see what band I was using when connected.
From what I've seen/read they still weren't added but I could be wrong. I really hope I am right because in my case the experience between the XT1097 and XT1095 has been very different. I will give LTE discovery a try and see what's up.
Thanks!
I am 99.99999% sure the bands were enabled. Several people in Canada are using the XT1095 with LTE bands 2,4,5,7 and 17.