ART on Moto x - Moto X Q&A

Does any one have been tested ART?

gueszman said:
Does any one have been tested ART?
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It works, but has the same problems as any other phone with ART.

Problem? You mean some apps do not work
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gueszman said:
Problem? You mean some apps do not work
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Yeah

Do you know how many apps doesnt work?... I know about whatsapp, but there is a patch now.
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gueszman said:
Do you know how many apps doesnt work?... I know about whatsapp, but there is a patch now.
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That was the only one I knew. I didn't even know that they patched it.

Well...i saw a patch hanged in here for Nexus 4...but i am not sure if it work with any smartphone.
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gueszman said:
Does any one have been tested ART?
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I've been using ART for a week now. Have a lot of apps, business, productivity, even third party's, but no games. I must say that I haven't had any single crash or malfunction and the system is amazingly fast and stable. I'm on stock 4.4 though. Never thought to go back to dalvik.

piskr said:
I've been using ART for a week now. Have a lot of apps, business, productivity, even third party's, but no games. I must say that I haven't had any single crash or malfunction and the system is amazingly fast and stable. I'm on stock 4.4 though. Never thought to go back to dalvik.
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Same here. ART has been working fine for me as well. I don't know that I really notice it being a lot faster but it sure doesn't appear any slower either. I believe Titanium Backup, which I use, had an issue as well but a THINK they have issued an update for that.

Xposed (and thus gravitybox ) are not art compatible yet. I'll switch when that changes
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I haven't switched to ART on my Moto X yet because I generally treat me phone as needing to be stable all the time. I did switch to ART on my Nexus 7, though, and most apps worked just fine. My Yahoo Sports app experiences a very long delay (~5 seconds) when I try to look at any individual game stats for the first time after I open the app.
My NFL Sunday Ticket app also doesn't appear to be as stable, sometimes force closing which I didn't usually get before, but I haven't done back-to-back testing to see if it's actual cause/effect.

Good to know. Im using Gravitybox and i have noticed the performance slowed down a bit. But nothing important.
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So what exactly is the benefit of switching to ART?
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binary visions said:
I haven't switched to ART on my Moto X yet because I generally treat me phone as needing to be stable all the time. I did switch to ART on my Nexus 7, though, and most apps worked just fine. My Yahoo Sports app experiences a very long delay (~5 seconds) when I try to look at any individual game stats for the first time after I open the app.
My NFL Sunday Ticket app also doesn't appear to be as stable, sometimes force closing which I didn't usually get before, but I haven't done back-to-back testing to see if it's actual cause/effect.
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I just switched to ART last night on my moto x and am having the same experience you detail. If an app is already open, its lightening fast to respond/open back up. But some apps when opening for the first time take longer than they did on dalvik. Facebook for instance, takes nearly twice as long to initially open.
Tip (if you havent already) - under developer options, change the window, transition and animator duration to .5 seconds (down from 1 second). Its literally instantaneous moving between apps and such.

Anyone having issues with switching to ART? Every time I pick the ART option, the phone reboots and just reverts back to Dalvik. This is on a Moto X Dev. Edition.

I switched to apps and I think I noticed things going smoother and faster (scrolling and opening-switching apps). But that just might be the placebo effect at work.
Then WhatsApp stopped working so I had to switch back to dalvik

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Unwanted scrolling up when swiping up active notifications

The title is self explanatory. It's getting annoying.
It seem's like swiping up in active notification the "swiped" distance is passed to the app. For example, in whatsapp y have to scroll all the way down to read the new messages after swiping up.
anoyone else with this problem?? it started since the update from play store
I've been having the same issue, does anyone knows how to fix this?
Same issue here
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Same problem here.
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Still having this issue..
Count me in for this issue...
groupme works just fine.
whatsapp is full of fail.
It's a whatsapp issue. When are they fixing this?
it happens even on hangouts app
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I realized that it doesn't happen when I use a PIN to lock my phone, anybody else?
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waiflih said:
it happens even on hangouts app
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I use hangouts all the time, and I don't get this. Weird. 4.4 VZW, but I am rooted, and that's all.
syntrix said:
I use hangouts all the time, and I don't get this. Weird. 4.4 VZW, but I am rooted, and that's all.
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this. never had this issue. It sounds like an app issue.

ART runtime on moto x

I am on a Verizon moto x and wondering if I should switch to ART runtime or if it will brick my device in some way?
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I am on a Verizon moto x and wondering if I should switch to ART runtime or if it will brick my device in some way?
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I switched when I got this phone two weeks ago... no bricking or anything. I haven't measured anything but the phone feels quick and smooth.
It won't brick your device but do note that ART is in an alpha stage and not all apps are compatible with it yet, so you may not be able to run everything you can with Dalvik
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I used art for a couple of weeks. It FELT a little quicker, but only slightly so, and this could have been a placebo effect. I'm back on dalvik, now--mostly because xposed framework is not compatible with art.
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i don't personally feel it's a substantial enough speed increase and i have yet to see any type of battery increase. however, the primary benefit of ART is applications are compiled as they are installed, which means shorter load times and better usability. dalvik requires compilation at the launch of the app. if your dalvik cache is cleared, or gets too large, there can be complications with load times, system performance, etc. (which is why so many people suggest clearing that cache).
the fundamental benefits of ART are the reasons i chose to stick with it.
Jemmy Ducks said:
I used art for a couple of weeks. It FELT a little quicker, but only slightly so, and this could have been a placebo effect. I'm back on dalvik, now--mostly because xposed framework is not compatible with art.
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ART and Xposed with three mods working fine on mine. Try again
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slimdizzy said:
ART and Xposed with three mods working fine on mine. Try again
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Xposed doesn't work on ART. It automatically switches to Dalvik everytime you try to use ART. You've been using Dalvik for a long time and you didn't even noticed. One more reason to believe ART (at least on Moto X) is just placebo.
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I used ART for about a week before returning to Dalvik for the Xposed Framework, and I definitely have better battery life using Dalvik. I'd noted this in another topic and another member had replied in agreement. He'd also noted better scrolling in some apps but lesser battery life using ART. Now, that's not saying you'll get 3 hours screen time using ART versus 4.5 using Dalvik, but the difference was enough to be noticeable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48616638&postcount=6
I was using ART once 4.4 got pushed to our phones.
I turned it off once I saw all the changes for ART that went into 4.4.1 and 4.4.2, so once we get 4.4.2 I'll turn it back on....that is if i can give up xposed.
I will only switch to ART once Xposed is compatible with it. Until then Dalvik it is.
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slimdizzy said:
ART and Xposed with three mods working fine on mine. Try again
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I made the same mistake, thinking I was still on ART after installing Xposed Framework. The installer doesn't notify you that it's switching you back to dalvik. Your only indication of this change is when you get the 'android is updating' message upon rebooting.
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If you are unrooted, art WAY BETTER!
aviwdoowks said:
If you are unrooted, art WAY BETTER!
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Even if you're rooted ART is way better!
chaoslimits said:
Even if you're rooted ART is way better!
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Totally agree. I have great battery life and stability as well. I've used art almost from very beginning.
I've been using ART on stock 4.4.2 rooted and its been great. No problems with any of the apps I used, but I also don't use xposed. I didn't notice any differences in battery life between ART and Dalvik. :good:
aviwdoowks said:
If you are unrooted, art WAY BETTER!
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Hey - coming in from my photo thread to tell you that after switching to ART I had no problems with FV-5, and I checked afterwards to make sure I was still set to ART, which I was.
dmm108 said:
Hey - coming in from my photo thread to tell you that after switching to ART I had no problems with FV-5, and I checked afterwards to make sure I was still set to ART, which I was.
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I take it back. I am unable to get my moto x to boot iwith ART. I set it as an option, but something is causing it to default to dalvik during boot. I uninstalled Xposed but that did not change the result.
I have an "android is upgrading", with each power on for 4 items now. Unrooted & 442.
Seems strange to me.
Has anyone found a way to get the long press volume to skip track mod on art? That mod is the only think keeping me on dalvik because I use it a ton.
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I have an "android is upgrading", with each power on for 4 items now. Unrooted & 442.
Seems strange to me.
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ON ART rumtimes, Every boot: android is upgrading 1 of 4 apps!
Bump Bump Bump Bump = 4!

[Trick] Open widgets - Little late to the party?

I don't know if someone has discovered this neat feature or Bug(maybe?) of 4.4 (exists in 4.4.2 too).
Click on app drawer and quickly press 2 things, home button and then quickly single press the screen dots icon(which shows home many homescreens you have) present above the app drawer icon.
It opens widgets. I'm sure it didn't exist when I had nexus 4 with 4.3, Works on nexus 5. I could record a screen recording to show what m talking about but there is no option for that in stock(correct me if m wrong). I used to do that all the time in cataclysm ROM easily with toggles.
It's a known bug but it was removed in 4.4.1/2...at least for me.
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DryaT said:
It's a known bug but it was removed in 4.4.1/2...at least for me.
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on 4.4.2 right now and it works.
Neat! I didn't know of this.
japie06 said:
Neat! I didn't know of this.
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:laugh::laugh: Knew it wasn't just me :victory:

Lag help

When i hit home or try to switch apps my note 5 lags. Its the verizon model, had it since launch.
Mine too. I solved that disabling some useless apps
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Mine too. I solved that disabling some useless apps
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How do i do that? Preferably without a computer
Settings/application manager/all apps.
On that list tap on app name and select disabled. That's all.
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jhonyp said:
Settings/application manager/all apps.
On that list tap on app name and select disabled. That's all.
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Its more than just disabling any app. We need to know exactly what is causing the lag. If it is an app, then which app? We cant just be disabling any app and hope one stops the lag. There is another post which discusses the same lag issue but there is still not one single solution to it. After several updates on the phone, it still has not solved the lag issue. I am using a N920CD, I get the lag everyday for couple of seconds.
Does anyone know of a proper permanent fix? What is actually causing the lag ?
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Its more than just disabling any app. We need to know exactly what is causing the lag. If it is an app, then which app? We cant just be disabling any app and hope one stops the lag. There is another post which discusses the same lag issue but there is still not one single solution to it. After several updates on the phone, it still has not solved the lag issue. I am using a N920CD, I get the lag everyday for couple of seconds.
Does anyone know of a proper permanent fix? What is actually causing the lag ?
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I just disable a couple of app and problem is solved for me
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jhonyp said:
I just disable a couple of app and problem is solved for me
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Actually, I had lag on mines when I updated to the latest firmware apa2. I went back to aok7 and its running perfect again.
Ok, I have to retract, lag still here. It's not lag it's a random freeze when unlock screen
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Yeah, such an expensive device and it has been lagging/freezing since I bought it. The updates have not fixed the issue. We need a fix. If anyone out here know of a fix, do let us know. Sometimes I feel like smashing the phone on the ground, especially when I need to act quickly to make a call or answer a call and it freezes, p***** me off differently.
Lizzo said:
Actually, I had lag on mines when I updated to the latest firmware apa2. I went back to aok7 and its running perfect again.
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You lie. you're really really nasty. You LIE and leave hateful comments everywhere you go. You should be banned.

Notification Bar does not automaticaly switch to previous app if pressed

Don't know how this has stopped working.
If you keep the square icon pressed on the notification bar it should switch automatically to the previous app you were using. this is good for multi-tasking and you can quickly switch.
Problem - if I keep it pressed, nothing happens. If I press it briefly I get the normal recent app list.
Very annoying and I cannot figure out what I have changed to stop this amazing feature.
Please help.
I did never realized about that feature. In fact, it was one of the first thing I tried because my previous smartphone had that feature, but it did never work with my P9. I bought it last week, and that feature was never available, at least in my case of course
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lagranvaca said:
I did never realized about that feature. In fact, it was one of the first thing I tried because my previous smartphone had that feature, but it did never work with my P9. I bought it last week, and that feature was never available, at least in my case of course
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Actually I have a P8 and it worked well. it should work on the 9 as well.
It has never worked for me. Anybody else?
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lagranvaca said:
It has never worked for me. Anybody else?
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on the p8 it was definitely possible - check out the youtube tips and tricks. why would they remove the feature?
I dread updating my phone for reasons like this. (
nelay23 said:
on the p8 it was definitely possible - check out the youtube tips and tricks. why would they remove the feature?
I dread updating my phone for reasons like this. (
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Yes, it was really useful in my previous phone. Anyway, for me is not such a big problem. If you press that button to access the last tabs, the first one that appear in front of you is the last one used. So, with a couple of fast taps, you're in your previous app, no sweep needed.
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If you have root, gesture control let's you set a gesture to switch to last app (like alt+tab on Windows)

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