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[Q] T-Mobile Tethering

Is anyone on T-Mobile and able to tether successfully? I recently picked up the developer edition and am unable to tether on Android 4.4 Kit Kat. I used to be able to tether on my Nexus 4 running 4.3 without a tethering plan.

Yeah... Google broke (or fixed depending on your point of view) this in 4.4. No longer works without a plan on both my Nexus 4 and Moto X.
One less reason for stock Android.

Solutions Etcetera said:
Yeah... Google broke (or fixed depending on your point of view) this in 4.4. No longer works without a plan on both my Nexus 4 and Moto X.
One less reason for stock Android.
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Were you able to find a workaround on your Moto X? Or are you just accepting that it is no longer there.

androidlicious said:
Were you able to find a workaround on your Moto X? Or are you just accepting that it is no longer there.
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I used it so rarely I don't really care. There is a workaround if your rooted (changing an entry in an SQLite file). Try a search.

androidlicious said:
Is anyone on T-Mobile and able to tether successfully? I recently picked up the developer edition and am unable to tether on Android 4.4 Kit Kat. I used to be able to tether on my Nexus 4 running 4.3 without a tethering plan.
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here you go. I tried on my Nexus 4. works well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47203432&postcount=70

Wi-Fi tethering without subscription?

I have a short trip coming and would like to have the WiFi tethering if possible. My current data plan does not have the subscription.
And my phone is not rooted.
Is it possible to have by-pass check for a week?
Thanks

redhonker said:
I have a short trip coming and would like to have the WiFi tethering if possible. My current data plan does not have the subscription.
And my phone is not rooted.
Is it possible to have by-pass check for a week?
Thanks
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Havent seen any nonroot tethering working, i know Verizon will let you for $1 a day if you call ahead.

Since the T-Mobile version is basically the same as a Developer Edition phone, can you enable WiFi hotspot on that one without additional fees?
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scottws said:
Since the T-Mobile version is basically the same as a Developer Edition phone, can you enable WiFi hotspot on that one without additional fees?
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With the Moto X, they seem to know that you're tethering... I as able to do this on my Nexus 4 running < 4.4 but once I upgraded, I wasn't able to anymore...
I haven't found a workaround right now.

My understanding is that there is no work around under 4.4 without root.

redhonker said:
I have a short trip coming and would like to have the WiFi tethering if possible. My current data plan does not have the subscription.
And my phone is not rooted.
Is it possible to have by-pass check for a week?
Thanks
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Just root and get it. rooting this device was pretty easy. if you do not have the developer edition it will void your warranty though.

liveMike said:
Just root and get it. rooting this device was pretty easy. if you do not have the developer edition it will void your warranty though.
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I use GFE. Until that thread sorts out KitKat, I'd have to wait.

androidlicious said:
With the Moto X, they seem to know that you're tethering... I as able to do this on my Nexus 4 running < 4.4 but once I upgraded, I wasn't able to anymore...
I haven't found a workaround right now.
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what about the moto X and 4.3? Were you able to tether with t-mobile without a tethering plan before the kitkat upgrade? Thanks.

I'm on the $30 T-Mobile plan. Tethering worked before 4.4.

[Q] Best route for wifi tether

So I have Verizon and I still have the unlimited data plan. Not wanting to lose my unlimited data, I haven't upgraded my phone since I got it and I am still using my HTC Thunderbolt. Now Ithat phone is on its way out and I need to upgrade, but I need to upgrade to a phone that still allows me to tether via wifi and what not. So that's my question. What's the best route to go to be able to tether via wifi with the Moto X? ITethering via usb isn't really viable for me and my current situation, so I have to be able toconnect via wifi. I have read that kit kat apparently disables wifi tethering unless you are rooted. How true is this? How easy is it to root and get the ability to tether via wifi back? Would not upgrading to 4.4 be better?
Thanks

I wouldn't buy a Verizon regular phone. Can't unlock it...and root on 4.4.2 may not be possible. Get dev edition or another carrier phone with compatible bands. Not at&t either.
But that's just my opinion.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

So if I got the dev edition, I could unlock/root it and get wifi tether back? And I was only seriously considering switching phones because there were deals that would have gotten me an apparently "regular Verizon phone" for cheap. So that might influence my decision and bit. I also am not as concerned with unlocking /flashing roms etc, as I am with wifi tether. My number one priority is obtaining wifi tether

I'm not sure about tethering specifically....never used it. Just wanted to give you a heads up about the bootloader.
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The Verizon and at&t phones should be cheap. Lol
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It might hinder my decision and bit but, like I said, ability to wifi tether is my number one priority. Rooting would be nice and custom roms would be nice as well. But I don't have regular access enough to be able to flash a lot of roms and stuff. That's why they aren't really a priority necessarily.

Flashing roms is not hugely popular on the Moto x. Stock with xposed and gravity box is all many use. Gravity box can give you tonnes of custom rom like features.
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Does gravity box require unlocking the bootloader? What about xposed? I'll have to look into whether those are viable options for wifi tether as well.

Xposed requires root.
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As I hinted tho...wait for people that know to comment on tethering....or Google it or search here. I don't know anything about tethering. Could be fine or not...no clue.
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kj2112 said:
Xposed requires root.
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As I hinted tho...wait for people that know to comment on tethering....or Google it or search here. I don't know anything about tethering. Could be fine or not...no clue.
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Unless u pay for tethering through VZW, you must have root. There is a nice xposed module that works with VZW that allows both USB and WiFi tether. Then there is Android WiFi Tether https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ which only does WiFi tethering and takes a tad bit to set up, not very hard. Xposed does USB tether, but IMO takes a little longer to activate since you have to have another module for quick settings toggle to activate, or go into settings, etc... Android WiFi tether has a widget you can tap easily on the home screen, and has the ability to see upload/download speeds (not sure they are exact, but are close). That's all I have.......

For the win (as I plan do with my Dev Edition newly rec'd):
Buy a Dev Edition (sale price @ Motorola ends today I think) so you can easily root and retain root when update to 4.2.2; update phone on VZW online account; unlock bootloader; allow OTA to install while on stock recovery, install TWRP for root; then Xposed, GravityBox, and tether module for Xposed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601859

There's your answers.
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Can you still root and do these steps/tasks even if you didn't have the dev edition?

Its only the Verizon regular model and at&t regular models that can't have boot loader unlocked.
And on 4.4.2 those may never be rootable.
The dev edition keeps warranty if you unlock the bootloader.....all other phones lose warranty if you unlock their boot loaders.
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kj2112 said:
Its only the Verizon regular model and at&t regular models that can't have boot loader unlocked.
And on 4.4.2 those may never be rootable.
The dev edition keeps warranty if you unlock the bootloader.....all other phones lose warranty if you unlock their boot loaders.
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I realize all of this. Rooting the phone doesn't mean that the bootloader was unlocked. Other phones I have owned have had root access without having the bootloader unlocked. So what I'm asking is if I had the Verizon regular phone, could I still achieve the wifi tether mentioned in the other posts?

revaew said:
I realize all of this. Rooting the phone doesn't mean that the bootloader was unlocked. Other phones I have owned have had root access without having the bootloader unlocked. So what I'm asking is if I had the Verizon regular phone, could I still achieve the wifi tether mentioned in the other posts?
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You didn't read my previous post well.....the Verizon regular version on the newest 4.4.2 may not have root available. And if it does ...read how they did it on previous versions. Its in the dev section....and not simple.
But as of today....rooting 4.4.2 isn't possible without unlocked bootloader.
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Last I knew, at the Verizon store I was told that it the motor x didn't come with kit kat. That's where the confusion is from. I didn't realize that apparently it has 4.4 instead.

revaew said:
Last I knew, at the Verizon store I was told that it the motor x didn't come with kit kat. That's where the confusion is from. I didn't realize that apparently it has 4.4 instead.
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You can root 4.2.2 and 4.4.....with the complicated locked bootloader method. But then you can't upgrade to 4.4.2....maybe ever...without losing root.
Tho...some say root survived their upgrade to 4.4.2.....but time will tell if it is true....or reliable.
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revaew said:
So I have Verizon and I still have the unlimited data plan. Not wanting to lose my unlimited data, I haven't upgraded my phone since I got it and I am still using my HTC Thunderbolt.
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See my posts:
[VZW] How to Get a Subsidized Phone on Verizon and Not Lose Unlimited Data
[DEAL] How to Get a FREE Verizon Moto X Dev Ed if You Have an Upgrade Available
The Best Buy sales change tomorrow and the sale on the Moto X ends today so act quickly.
revaew said:
What's the best route to go to be able to tether via wifi with the Moto X?
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Verizon Dev Ed Moto X unlocked and rooted with xposed module installed.

Purchase Unlock Code

I've been reading something online that suggest there is a way to purchase an Unlock code for a NON-Developer Edition Moto X from Verizon. I am kind of interested in doing this so I can get my root back. I was wondering if this was an official thing to buy one from Verizon or something less than official?

There is a long thread on it here, but you might have missed your chance:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/verizon-moto-maker-bootloader-unlock-t2680651

titanshadow said:
I've been reading something online that suggest there is a way to purchase an Unlock code for a NON-Developer Edition Moto X from Verizon. I am kind of interested in doing this so I can get my root back. I was wondering if this was an official thing to buy one from Verizon or something less than official?
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I've been trying to get a clear answer to this but I don't think anyone knows for sure, not too many people jumping in to talk about it, I have found these posts though that seem to indicate that you don't need a dev ed. to root 4.4.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1x8puu/can_i_root_a_nondev_verizon_moto_x_and_get_free/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/tool-moto-x-toolkit-v1-2-1-t2477132
I would love a correct answer so I don't waste time with a phone that wont give me hotspot on my unlimited data plan, I know the phone will come with 4.4 installed, and possibly never even have had 4.2 on it to start with.. so we are looking for the same info, CAN 4.4 BE ROOTED ON NON DEV MOTO X?

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I've been trying to get a clear answer to this but I don't think anyone knows for sure, not too many people jumping in to talk about it, I have found these posts though that seem to indicate that you don't need a dev ed. to root 4.4.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1x8puu/can_i_root_a_nondev_verizon_moto_x_and_get_free/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/tool-moto-x-toolkit-v1-2-1-t2477132
I would love a correct answer so I don't waste time with a phone that wont give me hotspot on my unlimited data plan, I know the phone will come with 4.4 installed, and possibly never even have had 4.2 on it to start with.. so we are looking for the same info, CAN 4.4 BE ROOTED ON NON DEV MOTO X?
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I bought mine through Best Buy (on Verizon) about a month ago. I have root on 4.4 using the SlapMyMoto method. I used this guide on Reddit because I found it a little less confusing than the one on XDA.
I installed Xposed framework and the X Tether/Moto Tether module and it seems to activate the hotspot just fine.

doitinthedirt said:
I would love a correct answer so I don't waste time with a phone that wont give me hotspot on my unlimited data plan, I know the phone will come with 4.4 installed, and possibly never even have had 4.2 on it to start with.. so we are looking for the same info, CAN 4.4 BE ROOTED ON NON DEV MOTO X?
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(sorry, this might be the long answer, but hopefully it will help you understand what I'm saying and why..)
SlapMyMoto can be used to root, and MotoWpNoMo can be used to disable write protection *IF* your phone is on 4.4 or lower.
MotoWpNoMo (which disables write protection) is needed because when Write Protection is enabled (the phone's default state with locked bootloader, or the state you are in after you take the 4.4.2 OTA), any changes made to /system, or the like, (including, but not limited to, App installs, file modifications, deletions, renames, etc) are not permanent and are lost at power off/on. Even if you have root, but lost Write Protection, any apps you've installed that need to write to system can't permanently save their changes (you have to re-do every time your phone powers off/on), and any Root type app, or app that gets installed to /system after WP is enabled will be lost at power off/on.
If you are on 4.4. and use SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo, but later take the OTA to 4.4.2, you might keep root but Write Protection will be re-enabled with no way to disable it.
Due to fixes and changes in 4.4.2, the Root and Disable Write Protection processes that worked on 4.4 and lower, no longer work on 4.4.2. And don't expect anything for 4.4.2 for a while, if ever. So if the phone you buy comes with 4.4.2 pre-installed, and you have a locked bootloader you're stuck!!
This is not an issue if you have an unlocked bootloader. You can still unlock your bootloader (which disables write protection), and root (by just using a custom recovery and flashing SuperSU) no matter what rom is on your phone.
The option of buying the Bootloader Unlock Code for Non-Dev Verizon X from the Chinese site or middleman appears to have dried up. (no contact from the seller in a few days, and rumors he got caught/fired/worse)
If you really need ROOT, Write Protection Disabled, the ability to tether on an unlimited data plan, then you really should consider getting the Dev Edition X for Verizon, as you can unlock its bootloader (without voiding warranty), root it (no matter what rom is on the phone), and do what you want. Especailly since to keep the unlimited data you'll need to buy the phone at Full Retail (unless you are taking an upgrade on an alternate line to the X, and then moving the X to your line)

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The option of buying the Bootloader Unlock Code for Non-Dev Verizon X from the Chinese site or middleman appears to have dried up. (no contact from the seller in a few days, and rumors he got caught/fired/worse)
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thanks kidJoe for the detailed answer I was thinking 4.4 was 4.4.2
You cleared it up beautifully!

The hidden fineprint when buying a used/refurbished Verizon (XT1096) model

I'm really turned on by an eBay deal on a used (but refurbished) Verizon unlocked Moto X for 180$. But I guess there are a few things no one's telling me when buying this device...
I can think of the following:
1. Battery already worn out
2. Unable to unlock the bootloader & root the device
3. Unable to use some of the functions (heard about USB tethering doesn't work?!)
I'd be happy to hear from you what's indeed true and what's not, and other possible drawbacks. Also, I live outside the US if that matters.
Thanks, and hopefully this will help others looking at this apparently popular deal.

The MX battery was never great to begin with, but after a year it should still be at least 85-90% effective. J wouldn't worry about that.
The Verizon MX has no bl unlock, sorry. There is a very convoluted root process which only works with 5.0 and earlier.
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There is a BL unlock available for the XT1096. An updated version of Sunshine was released that will unlock the Moto X 2014 as long as it has never been updated past 5.0. Technically it would work on 5.1 but it needs root and no root is available for 5.1.

chrisrozon said:
The MX battery was never great to begin with, but after a year it should still be at least 85-90% effective. J wouldn't worry about that.
The Verizon MX has no bl unlock, sorry. There is a very convoluted root process which only works with 5.0 and earlier.
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Thanks. The unlocking thing is really upsetting.
mbkintner said:
There is a BL unlock available for the XT1096. An updated version of Sunshine was released that will unlock the Moto X 2014 as long as it has never been updated past 5.0. Technically it would work on 5.1 but it needs root and no root is available for 5.1.
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Sounds risky to buy a phone without knowing what version it has and if unlocking will be successful, especially if there's no easy way for me to return the device.
I think I'll search for the pure edition after all.

There isn't a Pure version of the 2014 X that is compatible with Verizon's network.