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VZ Moto X (no root) WiFi Hotspot after Kit Kat?

Was using FoxFi on my non-rooted Verizon Moto X Dev. Edition for a WiFi hotspot, but that broke with the upgrade to Kit Kat.
Anyone found a solution, or another app that allows a WiFi hotspot on KitKat?
Thanks.

czechm8 said:
Was using FoxFi on my non-rooted Verizon Moto X Dev. Edition for a WiFi hotspot, but that broke with the upgrade to Kit Kat.
Anyone found a solution, or another app that allows a WiFi hotspot on KitKat?
Thanks.
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Are you entirely opposed to rooting? If rooted, there is a system mod available that allows native tethering. I'm using it on my VZW DE and it works great. Aside from modding system files, there are apps available for sideloading, but all require root access.
This was my main reason for rooting, and only came after I could find no means to wifi tether while leaving my X unrooted on 4.4
Or wait for FoxFi to issue a patch.

czechm8 said:
Was using FoxFi on my non-rooted Verizon Moto X Dev. Edition for a WiFi hotspot, but that broke with the upgrade to Kit Kat.
Anyone found a solution, or another app that allows a WiFi hotspot on KitKat?
Thanks.
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I know this doesn't answer your question directly, but there really is no reason not to unlock and root your dev edition anymore. Unlocking no longer voids your warranty and you can gain root very easily after its unlocked.
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Good points. Not totally opposed to rooting. I've been rooting and ROMing since the OG Droid. Just sort of grew tired of all of that.
I usually stay stock on my phones until I have a really good reason to root. This may be it if I can't find a non-root solution to WiFi tethering.
I still have unlimited data and I like to tether my Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 to my phone when I am away from my home network.
Speaking of rooting the Moto X on Verizon...............in the past, I've used the root toolkits to root my phones for the simple ease of the process.
Is there a tookit available to the Moto X in the event that I will ultimately want to root mine? Or a simple set of instructions to root?
I still have the Android SDK installed on my computer, but I honestly haven't messed with it since I rooted my Galaxy Nexus some time ago.

czechm8 said:
Good points. Not totally opposed to rooting. I've been rooting and ROMing since the OG Droid. Just sort of grew tired of all of that.
I usually stay stock on my phones until I have a really good reason to root. This may be it if I can't find a non-root solution to WiFi tethering.
I still have unlimited data and I like to tether my Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 to my phone when I am away from my home network.
Speaking of rooting the Moto X on Verizon...............in the past, I've used the root toolkits to root my phones for the simple ease of the process.
Is there a tookit available to the Moto X in the event that I will ultimately want to root mine? Or a simple set of instructions to root?
I still have the Android SDK installed on my computer, but I honestly haven't messed with it since I rooted my Galaxy Nexus some time ago.
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Use mfastboot (SDK fastboot will error out, size restraints or something) and flash TWRP. It will ask if you'd like root via SuperSU when rebooting, then just update it from the Play Store. Couldn't be easier.
adb, fastboot, mfastboot, moto drivers:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23252070760973491
I'd also recommend grabbing the image files from moto's site should anything happen to go wrong, or just to have should you want to go back to stock at any point down the road:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538394
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images

Jexx11 said:
I know this doesn't answer your question directly, but there really is no reason not to unlock and root your dev edition anymore. Unlocking no longer voids your warranty and you can gain root very easily after its unlocked.
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What is the easiest way to root the moto x and get wifi tethering working again.
I see a thread on the second page about rooting but it does not mention the Verizon model.

[Q] AOSP rom for Moto X Dev?

There wouldn't happen to be any AOSP roms for the dev X would there? I think I'm going to get an X but I'd really like AOSP

LOL. Moto x is already as pure as it gets almost. Just get one you can unlock boot loader on. So not at&t or Verizon ones. The Dev edition you want will give you more storage and keep your warranty after unlocking boot loader. Then root and get xposed and gravity box. You can customize and get all the custom rom features with those.
If you really want roms....there's only a few...but you lose the Moto x exclusive features.
If your a flashaholic.....don't get an x.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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There's a few sound issues I think with most the custom roms tho. And again....no active notification or touchless control.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

kj2112 said:
LOL. Moto x is already as pure as it gets almost. Just get one you can unlock boot loader on. So not at&t or Verizon ones. The Dev edition you want will give you more storage and keep your warranty after unlocking boot loader. Then root and get xposed and gravity box. You can customize and get all the custom rom features with those.
If you really want roms....there's only a few...but you lose the Moto x exclusive features.
If your a flashaholic.....don't get an x.
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There's a few sound issues I think with most the custom roms tho. And again....no active notification or touchless control.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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I'm not sure why you keep telling people they can't get an unlockable bootloader on at&t and Verizon. I have the Verizon Developed Edition, which I'm using on Verizon service on my Verizon account, and my bootloader is unlocked. Some people don't have a lot of choices on carrier due to service areas. But that doesn't mean they can't buy a developer edition.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I'm not sure why you keep telling people they can't get an unlockable bootloader on at&t and Verizon. I have the Verizon Developed Edition, which I'm using on Verizon service on my Verizon account, and my bootloader is unlocked. Some people don't have a lot of choices on carrier due to service areas. But that doesn't mean they can't buy a developer edition.
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He means to not get a moto maker Verizon or AT&T moto X, the boot loaders are locked, and can never be unlocked.
So if your on Verizon, get the developer version and live with the preset coloring.
Or if your with AT&T either get the developer version or get the T-Mobile moto maker version.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I'm not sure why you keep telling people they can't get an unlockable bootloader on at&t and Verizon. I have the Verizon Developed Edition, which I'm using on Verizon service on my Verizon account, and my bootloader is unlocked. Some people don't have a lot of choices on carrier due to service areas. But that doesn't mean they can't buy a developer edition.
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I did say that about the dev edition.
And you can't unlock bootloader on at&t.....or regular Verizon.
So?
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reluttr said:
He means to not get a moto maker Verizon or AT&T moto X, the boot loaders are locked, and can never be unlocked.
So if your on Verizon, get the developer version and live with the preset coloring.
Or if your with AT&T either get the developer version or get the T-Mobile moto maker version.
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Exactly.
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kj2112 said:
I did say that about the dev edition.
And you can't unlock bootloader on at&t.....or regular Verizon.
So?
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Exactly.
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Yes but your response to anyone on Verizon or at&t is that they shouldnt buy phones from Verizon or at&t because their bootloaders are locked. You don't mention the developer edition as an option at all for people who are trying to find the phone that best suits their needs. If they come posting about rooting or unlocking their bootloader, then perhaps a moto maker version isn't their number one priority, so explaining that, even on Verizon, they CAN buy a Developer Edition and unlock their bootloader would be more productive then telling them they should've bought a phone from a different carrier. Which by the way, if its not a DE, it will void their warranty to unlock it.
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To the OP: With all that said; however, seriously the MX is as close as you can get to AOSP without getting a Nexus (which technically doesn't run pure AOSP either). I know dhacker was working on an AOSP build but it had some serious bugs. There's also an Eclipse AOSP ROM.
Those are your options that I know of, but you really only lose the features that makes the Moto X such a great device. There's no real bloat to speak of and the stock ROM is optimized for the X8 CPU and vice versa.

Pretty sure I've mentioned the dev edition in most of my posts. Anyway....aside from the dev edition....no, no one should buy an at&t or regular Verizon phone. Not if they have an account on xda anyway. LOL
Joe schmo....sure...get them...they're still great out of the box.
All that crap involved to root those phones is not worth the trouble..unless you have no other option. They may not even have a way to root down the road. And if someone already has one of them....sell it. And put the cash towards a DE or whatever that can be unlocked.
And...if I didn't mention the dev edition anytime I talked about this....bet you 5 bucks its cause the DE was already talked about by the OP or someone in the thread.
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You did mention DE , maybe instead of trying to ream someone a new butt hole who tried to answer the op , you should instead ream the op to first search the threads prior to posted a question that's been covered about 50 times, also had he checked the development threads he would have found my thread with cm11, gummy and LQ roms
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

I don't think anyone reamed anyone's butthole (that's a different type of site altogether). I apologize if I mistook KJ's intentions. That was was just how his posts sounded to ME, and I wanted to make sure people understood DE's are a viable option for Verizon and at&t.
All in good nature I assure you.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I don't think anyone reamed anyone's butthole (that's a different type of site altogether). I apologize if I mistook KJ's intentions. That was was just how his posts sounded to ME, and I wanted to make sure people understood DE's are a viable option for Verizon and at&t.
All in good nature I assure you.
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Personally ....I think if someone (who is on xda anyway) doesn't already know about a dev edition ...for this phone...or any other...then yeah....they really need to learn a bit more about this stuff we do on xda. And best not be attempting any phone messing until they do.
Yup....I'm a HUGE believer in reading up and learning about this stuff. Posting anything on xda should automatically mean you searched (especially with Google) and tried to answer your own question.....only if you came up empty would you post. Its a shame that doesn't seem to happen near as much as it should.
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You can try my debloat script, it won't get you AOSP, but at least it'll make the OS lighter.

[Q] Possible to get AT&T 4.4.2 update on AT&T Moto X without being an AT&T customer?

[Q] Possible to get AT&T 4.4.2 update on AT&T Moto X without being an AT&T customer?
I want to purchase a used AT&T Moto X 16GB from a private seller. I intend to use the Moto X on a 3rd party MVNO pre-paid carrier (H2O Wireless who is owned by ATT).
This is a completely stock ATT Moto X 16GB that currently runs 4.4 where both the BL and sim are locked.
Once ATT releases the official 4.4.2 after the soak testing, how will I be able to update to 4.4.2 without ATT service? Will I have to wait for someone here to hopefully post the official ATT version and then try installing via WiFi?
Or would I download it from here to a PC and then copy it to the Moto X internal storage via fastboot USB and then install via recovery?
I have asked 3 different customer reps at H2O Wireless if their network accesses AT&T's OTA updates and they were clueless. Naturally, that would be the easiest approach but I don't want to depend on them for any future Android updates.
Thanks for your help.

No, you will not receive the update. Sure, you own a AT&T Moto X, but H20 is still separate from(even though owned by) AT&T and thus will have to release their own update.
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Zombienaut said:
No, you will not receive the update. Sure, you own a AT&T Moto X, but H20 is still separate from(even though owned by) AT&T and thus will have to release their own update.
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So what if someone buys a Moto X from ATT who only wants to use it as a WiFi device? They just buy the phone for full retail price and not a wireless plan.
Are you saying such customers aren't entitled to AT&T Android updates specifically for their device via WiFi?

Well, yes you can actually receive the update via WiFi only. I forgot about that.
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droydr said:
I want to purchase a used AT&T Moto X 16GB from a private seller. I intend to use the Moto X on a 3rd party MVNO pre-paid carrier (H2O Wireless who is owned by ATT).
This is a completely stock ATT Moto X 16GB that currently runs 4.4 where both the BL and sim are locked.
Once ATT releases the official 4.4.2 after the soak testing, how will I be able to update to 4.4.2 without ATT service? Will I have to wait for someone here to hopefully post the official ATT version and then try installing via WiFi?
Or would I download it from here to a PC and then copy it to the Moto X internal storage via fastboot USB and then install via recovery?
I have asked 3 different customer reps at H2O Wireless if their network accesses AT&T's OTA updates and they were clueless. Naturally, that would be the easiest approach but I don't want to depend on them for any future Android updates.
Thanks for your help.
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It doesn't matter what network you are on. The carriers don't push the updates. Moto does. It will be seen by Moto as an AT&T variant and will be push the update. However, you may want to be on WIFI since these updates can be rather data consuming.
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Dark9781 said:
It doesn't matter what network you are on. The carriers don't push the updates. Moto does. It will be seen by Moto as an AT&T variant and will be push the update. However, you may want to be on WIFI since these updates can be rather data consuming.
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This ^^^
My phone has never been on Rogers, and I got the ota same as all the Rogers phones.
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kj2112 said:
This ^^^
My phone has never been on Rogers, and I got the ota same as all the Rogers phones.
Sent from my cell phone telephone....
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sure you will get the OTA; I got mine (soak test), on unrooted, stock ATT Moto X, using on Dutch carrier. Don't worry about it.

Thinking of switching to Republic Wirelss -- advice?

i'm on Sprint with a Galaxy S3 ... thinking of switching to Republic Wireless on a Moto X.
1. Can I root the phone?
2. Can I flash any custom ROMs? Which ones will work with Republic?
3. Existing Republic customers -- are you happy with the service/phone?
4. Does it come with KitKat? Is it pretty much AOSP vanilla, or bloated?
Thanks!

d0g said:
i'm on Sprint with a Galaxy S3 ... thinking of switching to Republic Wireless on a Moto X.
1. Can I root the phone?
2. Can I flash any custom ROMs? Which ones will work with Republic?
3. Existing Republic customers -- are you happy with the service/phone?
4. Does it come with KitKat? Is it pretty much AOSP vanilla, or bloated?
Thanks!
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1. Not sure about Kit Kat, Jellybean could be rooted
2. No, well you can but you will loose the ability to call and text
3. Personally I am happy with the service
4. It does now
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You would have to hope you can still buy a bootloader unlock code from the guy in China. Or else you will not be able to root. Assuming it comes with 4.4.2, which it probably will now. And the guy selling codes for 45 could stop anytime. Or he may not be able to unlock yours. It will be a gamble.
I'd suggest you pay outright for a dev edition. Then you're good to go.

kj2112 said:
You would have to hope you can still buy a bootloader unlock code from the guy in China. Or else you will not be able to root. Assuming it comes with 4.4.2, which it probably will now. And the guy selling codes for 45 could stop anytime. Or he may not be able to unlock yours. It will be a gamble.
I'd suggest you pay outright for a dev edition. Then you're good to go.
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republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition

krsmit0 said:
republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition
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I know, it would have to be bought elsewhere.
Otherwise, good chance RW 4.4.2 phones will never be rooted.
Unless you luck out and can get a code from the Chinese seller.

krsmit0 said:
republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition
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The phone can be unlocked if you BUY the unlock code. Mine personally is unlocked from the first go around.
To answer your questions:
1) If you order the phone and receive it running 4.2.2, then yes, you can root the phone, then safestrap and upgrade to 4.4.2 using the guide in the General section. If you receive the phone running 4.4.2 then your only hope is to unlock your bootloader via the China middleman.
2)There are no custom ROMs that support the custom software that RW bakes into their ROM to make their services work. If your bootloader is unlocked, you can flash all you want, just won't work as a cellphone.
3)I love the Moto X and RW service. Sprint is not always the best, but I get coverage most everywhere I travel, plus I get WiFi in most everywhere I go.
4)For now, new phones bought directly from RW should still come running 4.2.2 until their stock runs out. Don't know what a new phone from Motomaker would come with. Their KK ROM is generally debloated aside from all of Googles apps and HPs Printer plugin.

Thanks for the info ...
Does anyone know ...
1. if I buy a Moto X straight from motomaker, or used on craigslist ... can I flash it with the Republic ROM?
2. If I buy a Republic moto ... can I later flash it to use with a Simple Mobile SIM card?
thanks

You won't be flashing anything that requires a custom recovery if you get either with 4.4.2 installed, cause you won't have root. Or an unlocked bootloader. Unless you get lucky and the unlock codes are still available for 45 dollars and your phone is in his list.
That's what I was trying to say previously.

OK, but what if I get a Moto from Motorola ... which I assume is easily rootable ... can I then flash the Republic ROM on to it?

d0g said:
OK, but what if I get a Moto from Motorola ... which I assume is easily rootable ... can I then flash the Republic ROM on to it?
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You can't unlock motomakers either tho.
Unless you're talking about getting the dev edition.

Ah ... I see. Bummer. Do you know if the Nexus 5 (straight from Google) is ready to root?

d0g said:
Ah ... I see. Bummer. Do you know if the Nexus 5 (straight from Google) is ready to root?
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Any nexus 5 can be rooted. Just unlock bootloader and you're off.

That may be the best for me then ... I don't want to be locked in to anything. thanks!
Is the Nexus 5 both GSM and CDMA? I don't see an option on order form.
Sorry to go off - topic ...

d0g said:
That may be the best for me then ... I don't want to be locked in to anything. thanks!
Is the Nexus 5 both GSM and CDMA? I don't see an option on order form.
Sorry to go off - topic ...
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You may need to confirm with a google search, but yes.
There's only one north american model of the n5, and it works on most any carrier, except Verizon apparently.
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I would google "nexus 5 [carrier name]" to see if out works on the specific carrier you want.

I've been planning on the Moto X from Republic Wireless. It sounds like from Moto Maker they are coming with 4.4.2, so I can only hope the guy selling codes is still doing so and can unlock mine, otherwise wait and pray they find a way to unlock 4.4.2 on RW..
If not, I hope I can live with a generally stock phone.. It does seem like the Moto X is pretty good all around as it is, so maybe it won't be so bad :fingers-crossed:

I have used RW for about 2 or 3 months and I am planning to switch to something like T-mobile for various reasons. all the reasons that annoy me enough to switch are somewhat small stuff but that's just me.
the reasons are: no emoji support, no 3rd party texting app supported fully (texting works mms doesn't), slower than the rest software updates (we got our 4.4.2 update, if I'm not mistaken, last), and my biggest annoyance with them is not allowing me to unlock my phone (but I eventually did it anyways).
I also feel like they don't listen to the community as much as they should but they sure as hell listen to it more than a big carrier.
anyways that' just my opinion, I might add a few things to this list if I think of them.

New moto x owner from galaxy nexus - need clarification

So I just picked up a Moto x after having owned a Galaxy nexus for about a year and a half. So there are a few things that currently bother me, and seems like there are no fixes to date.
Moto X (2013), Verizon with unlimited data, OS 4.4.4, non-dev edition, bootloader locked and no root access.
1. There are no solutions to unlock the bootloader as of today.
2. There are no solutions to root and ROM.
3. I cannot use the native hotspot tether feature on my unlimited plan. Has anyone tried the clockworkmod paid tether app ($5) or any other tether app? Can I USB tether from my phone to my Nexus 7 or another phone?
4. Can I somehow remove (unlikely) or at least hide the bloatware?
My browsing of the moto x forums has basically told me that I'm stuck with some upgraded hardware and some highly restricted software comapred to my last phone. I'm very much enjoying the phone and it's new intricacies that my galaxy nexus didn't offer, but any insight would be greatly appreciated.

I believe you are SoL on bootloader unlock/root so 1-3 are out I believe. 4 you can go into settings>apps>disable for the ones you don't want to see.

@rice923
For #1 you are correct. With the NON-Developer Edition Verizon Moto X (XT1060), the bootloader is locked. Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes for Verizon, ATT and Republic Wireless. Your only option at this point would be IF the China Middleman starts responding again, to buy a code from him.
With a locked bootloader there is no root, and no way to disable write protection when on 4.4.4. Past root exploits don't work. The latest is Sunshine, but it doesn't work on 4.4.4 devices. see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471 or see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
For #2 and #3, they require an unlocked bootloader.
For #4. Some of the bloat can be "disabled" via Settings -> Apps -> All... open the app you want, and see if the Disable button is there. 3rd party apps to FREEZE wont work because you are not rooted and write protection is still enabled.

Thanks for confirming my findings. I'm a bit disappointed, since I still have unlimited data. The tethering is the main issue that absolutely makes me loathe Verizon.
On a sidenote, I've never handled the developer version of the VZN moto x. Does it still have the Motorola features, such as active display, etc?

rice923 said:
Thanks for confirming my findings. I'm a bit disappointed, since I still have unlimited data. The tethering is the main issue that absolutely makes me loathe Verizon.
On a sidenote, I've never handled the developer version of the VZN moto x. Does it still have the Motorola features, such as active display, etc?
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The Dev edition and retail/moto maker variants are exactly the same software and roms.
The dev edition is only available as black front, woven white back that says "developer edition" on it, with silver accents (camera ring and buttons), 32 gig, and Moto provides the boot loader unlock code and it doesn't void the warranty.
The Moto maker is fully customizable, and Moto doesn't give the unlock code for verizon.

Thanks for the help guys! Unfortunately, I might have to jump ship to another phone that will allow me to tether. I feel like I have no control over the phone without root access, which I've always had for the past 3 years since having my first smartphone.
It's quite sad, since I actually love the rest of the phone...

Perhaps the new Nexus 6 or Droid Turbo, or watch swappa. Com for an unlocked version of the X

Like GandalfTehGray, why not just look for a Dev edition X and sell that one you just got?
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!

$$$... The dev version of almost another $100 more than my 16gb version. Of love to have the Dev edition though!
I'm currently looking into a gs3. There a root exploit floating around, so hopefully that works. Not looking forward to touch wiz

The S3 is a terrible downgrade... IMHO. My M8 went in for service and they lent me an S3....was just awful. Lol
Of course it wasn't rooted... But still awful. Feels and looks cheap. Slow. Just terrible. Should have got them to loan me a Sim for my S2...prefer it to the S3.

Yeah I already know the s3 is a step down from the moto x... I'm loving the moto so much! It just fails to do a few critical things the I've grown to need... Tether being the biggie.
I'm looking at a local rooted and bootloader unlocked s3. Hopefully that will prove my expectations wrong

Posting this from my new (to me) gs3. It indeed has an unlocked bootloader, and the previous owner already has cm11 loaded onto it. It's pretty snappy so far, and in enjoying it. So glad I don't need to put up with touchwiz!
Anyhow, I really miss active display already... And the motion activated camera launch[emoji22]