[Q] AOSP rom for Moto X Dev?

[Q] AOSP rom for Moto X Dev? - Moto X Q&A

There wouldn't happen to be any AOSP roms for the dev X would there? I think I'm going to get an X but I'd really like AOSP

LOL. Moto x is already as pure as it gets almost. Just get one you can unlock boot loader on. So not at&t or Verizon ones. The Dev edition you want will give you more storage and keep your warranty after unlocking boot loader. Then root and get xposed and gravity box. You can customize and get all the custom rom features with those.
If you really want roms....there's only a few...but you lose the Moto x exclusive features.
If your a flashaholic.....don't get an x.
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There's a few sound issues I think with most the custom roms tho. And again....no active notification or touchless control.
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kj2112 said:
LOL. Moto x is already as pure as it gets almost. Just get one you can unlock boot loader on. So not at&t or Verizon ones. The Dev edition you want will give you more storage and keep your warranty after unlocking boot loader. Then root and get xposed and gravity box. You can customize and get all the custom rom features with those.
If you really want roms....there's only a few...but you lose the Moto x exclusive features.
If your a flashaholic.....don't get an x.
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There's a few sound issues I think with most the custom roms tho. And again....no active notification or touchless control.
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I'm not sure why you keep telling people they can't get an unlockable bootloader on at&t and Verizon. I have the Verizon Developed Edition, which I'm using on Verizon service on my Verizon account, and my bootloader is unlocked. Some people don't have a lot of choices on carrier due to service areas. But that doesn't mean they can't buy a developer edition.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I'm not sure why you keep telling people they can't get an unlockable bootloader on at&t and Verizon. I have the Verizon Developed Edition, which I'm using on Verizon service on my Verizon account, and my bootloader is unlocked. Some people don't have a lot of choices on carrier due to service areas. But that doesn't mean they can't buy a developer edition.
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He means to not get a moto maker Verizon or AT&T moto X, the boot loaders are locked, and can never be unlocked.
So if your on Verizon, get the developer version and live with the preset coloring.
Or if your with AT&T either get the developer version or get the T-Mobile moto maker version.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I'm not sure why you keep telling people they can't get an unlockable bootloader on at&t and Verizon. I have the Verizon Developed Edition, which I'm using on Verizon service on my Verizon account, and my bootloader is unlocked. Some people don't have a lot of choices on carrier due to service areas. But that doesn't mean they can't buy a developer edition.
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I did say that about the dev edition.
And you can't unlock bootloader on at&t.....or regular Verizon.
So?
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reluttr said:
He means to not get a moto maker Verizon or AT&T moto X, the boot loaders are locked, and can never be unlocked.
So if your on Verizon, get the developer version and live with the preset coloring.
Or if your with AT&T either get the developer version or get the T-Mobile moto maker version.
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Exactly.
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kj2112 said:
I did say that about the dev edition.
And you can't unlock bootloader on at&t.....or regular Verizon.
So?
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Exactly.
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Yes but your response to anyone on Verizon or at&t is that they shouldnt buy phones from Verizon or at&t because their bootloaders are locked. You don't mention the developer edition as an option at all for people who are trying to find the phone that best suits their needs. If they come posting about rooting or unlocking their bootloader, then perhaps a moto maker version isn't their number one priority, so explaining that, even on Verizon, they CAN buy a Developer Edition and unlock their bootloader would be more productive then telling them they should've bought a phone from a different carrier. Which by the way, if its not a DE, it will void their warranty to unlock it.
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To the OP: With all that said; however, seriously the MX is as close as you can get to AOSP without getting a Nexus (which technically doesn't run pure AOSP either). I know dhacker was working on an AOSP build but it had some serious bugs. There's also an Eclipse AOSP ROM.
Those are your options that I know of, but you really only lose the features that makes the Moto X such a great device. There's no real bloat to speak of and the stock ROM is optimized for the X8 CPU and vice versa.

Pretty sure I've mentioned the dev edition in most of my posts. Anyway....aside from the dev edition....no, no one should buy an at&t or regular Verizon phone. Not if they have an account on xda anyway. LOL
Joe schmo....sure...get them...they're still great out of the box.
All that crap involved to root those phones is not worth the trouble..unless you have no other option. They may not even have a way to root down the road. And if someone already has one of them....sell it. And put the cash towards a DE or whatever that can be unlocked.
And...if I didn't mention the dev edition anytime I talked about this....bet you 5 bucks its cause the DE was already talked about by the OP or someone in the thread.
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You did mention DE , maybe instead of trying to ream someone a new butt hole who tried to answer the op , you should instead ream the op to first search the threads prior to posted a question that's been covered about 50 times, also had he checked the development threads he would have found my thread with cm11, gummy and LQ roms
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

I don't think anyone reamed anyone's butthole (that's a different type of site altogether). I apologize if I mistook KJ's intentions. That was was just how his posts sounded to ME, and I wanted to make sure people understood DE's are a viable option for Verizon and at&t.
All in good nature I assure you.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I don't think anyone reamed anyone's butthole (that's a different type of site altogether). I apologize if I mistook KJ's intentions. That was was just how his posts sounded to ME, and I wanted to make sure people understood DE's are a viable option for Verizon and at&t.
All in good nature I assure you.
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Personally ....I think if someone (who is on xda anyway) doesn't already know about a dev edition ...for this phone...or any other...then yeah....they really need to learn a bit more about this stuff we do on xda. And best not be attempting any phone messing until they do.
Yup....I'm a HUGE believer in reading up and learning about this stuff. Posting anything on xda should automatically mean you searched (especially with Google) and tried to answer your own question.....only if you came up empty would you post. Its a shame that doesn't seem to happen near as much as it should.
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You can try my debloat script, it won't get you AOSP, but at least it'll make the OS lighter.

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[Q] Best route for wifi tether

So I have Verizon and I still have the unlimited data plan. Not wanting to lose my unlimited data, I haven't upgraded my phone since I got it and I am still using my HTC Thunderbolt. Now Ithat phone is on its way out and I need to upgrade, but I need to upgrade to a phone that still allows me to tether via wifi and what not. So that's my question. What's the best route to go to be able to tether via wifi with the Moto X? ITethering via usb isn't really viable for me and my current situation, so I have to be able toconnect via wifi. I have read that kit kat apparently disables wifi tethering unless you are rooted. How true is this? How easy is it to root and get the ability to tether via wifi back? Would not upgrading to 4.4 be better?
Thanks

I wouldn't buy a Verizon regular phone. Can't unlock it...and root on 4.4.2 may not be possible. Get dev edition or another carrier phone with compatible bands. Not at&t either.
But that's just my opinion.
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So if I got the dev edition, I could unlock/root it and get wifi tether back? And I was only seriously considering switching phones because there were deals that would have gotten me an apparently "regular Verizon phone" for cheap. So that might influence my decision and bit. I also am not as concerned with unlocking /flashing roms etc, as I am with wifi tether. My number one priority is obtaining wifi tether

I'm not sure about tethering specifically....never used it. Just wanted to give you a heads up about the bootloader.
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The Verizon and at&t phones should be cheap. Lol
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It might hinder my decision and bit but, like I said, ability to wifi tether is my number one priority. Rooting would be nice and custom roms would be nice as well. But I don't have regular access enough to be able to flash a lot of roms and stuff. That's why they aren't really a priority necessarily.

Flashing roms is not hugely popular on the Moto x. Stock with xposed and gravity box is all many use. Gravity box can give you tonnes of custom rom like features.
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Does gravity box require unlocking the bootloader? What about xposed? I'll have to look into whether those are viable options for wifi tether as well.

Xposed requires root.
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As I hinted tho...wait for people that know to comment on tethering....or Google it or search here. I don't know anything about tethering. Could be fine or not...no clue.
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kj2112 said:
Xposed requires root.
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As I hinted tho...wait for people that know to comment on tethering....or Google it or search here. I don't know anything about tethering. Could be fine or not...no clue.
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Unless u pay for tethering through VZW, you must have root. There is a nice xposed module that works with VZW that allows both USB and WiFi tether. Then there is Android WiFi Tether https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ which only does WiFi tethering and takes a tad bit to set up, not very hard. Xposed does USB tether, but IMO takes a little longer to activate since you have to have another module for quick settings toggle to activate, or go into settings, etc... Android WiFi tether has a widget you can tap easily on the home screen, and has the ability to see upload/download speeds (not sure they are exact, but are close). That's all I have.......

For the win (as I plan do with my Dev Edition newly rec'd):
Buy a Dev Edition (sale price @ Motorola ends today I think) so you can easily root and retain root when update to 4.2.2; update phone on VZW online account; unlock bootloader; allow OTA to install while on stock recovery, install TWRP for root; then Xposed, GravityBox, and tether module for Xposed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601859

There's your answers.
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Can you still root and do these steps/tasks even if you didn't have the dev edition?

Its only the Verizon regular model and at&t regular models that can't have boot loader unlocked.
And on 4.4.2 those may never be rootable.
The dev edition keeps warranty if you unlock the bootloader.....all other phones lose warranty if you unlock their boot loaders.
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kj2112 said:
Its only the Verizon regular model and at&t regular models that can't have boot loader unlocked.
And on 4.4.2 those may never be rootable.
The dev edition keeps warranty if you unlock the bootloader.....all other phones lose warranty if you unlock their boot loaders.
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I realize all of this. Rooting the phone doesn't mean that the bootloader was unlocked. Other phones I have owned have had root access without having the bootloader unlocked. So what I'm asking is if I had the Verizon regular phone, could I still achieve the wifi tether mentioned in the other posts?

revaew said:
I realize all of this. Rooting the phone doesn't mean that the bootloader was unlocked. Other phones I have owned have had root access without having the bootloader unlocked. So what I'm asking is if I had the Verizon regular phone, could I still achieve the wifi tether mentioned in the other posts?
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You didn't read my previous post well.....the Verizon regular version on the newest 4.4.2 may not have root available. And if it does ...read how they did it on previous versions. Its in the dev section....and not simple.
But as of today....rooting 4.4.2 isn't possible without unlocked bootloader.
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Last I knew, at the Verizon store I was told that it the motor x didn't come with kit kat. That's where the confusion is from. I didn't realize that apparently it has 4.4 instead.

revaew said:
Last I knew, at the Verizon store I was told that it the motor x didn't come with kit kat. That's where the confusion is from. I didn't realize that apparently it has 4.4 instead.
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You can root 4.2.2 and 4.4.....with the complicated locked bootloader method. But then you can't upgrade to 4.4.2....maybe ever...without losing root.
Tho...some say root survived their upgrade to 4.4.2.....but time will tell if it is true....or reliable.
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revaew said:
So I have Verizon and I still have the unlimited data plan. Not wanting to lose my unlimited data, I haven't upgraded my phone since I got it and I am still using my HTC Thunderbolt.
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See my posts:
[VZW] How to Get a Subsidized Phone on Verizon and Not Lose Unlimited Data
[DEAL] How to Get a FREE Verizon Moto X Dev Ed if You Have an Upgrade Available
The Best Buy sales change tomorrow and the sale on the Moto X ends today so act quickly.
revaew said:
What's the best route to go to be able to tether via wifi with the Moto X?
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Verizon Dev Ed Moto X unlocked and rooted with xposed module installed.

Best variant for AT&T?

I am wanting to buy a moto x but I'm not sure which model. does the unlocked model pick up the same bands as the At&t one? Also, is there a difference between the developer and the unsliced models besides maybe the warranty coverage on the developer model? Thanks!
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Whatever you do, don't get ATT version, bootloader can't be unlocked and as you can see its one of the last to get updates.
You want to get the unlock version (aka T-Mobile version), it will support all the bands ATT required including LTE. The developer version will also work with ATT and support all the same bands as the unlocked version, and it also let you unlock the bootloader without losing your warrenty. The only negative with the dev edition is you can't customise color and it seem to take a little longer to ship.

I think At&T version is also good

Don't get the at&t version. Can't unlock bootloader. Well, there's a way for 40 bucks or so....but it may not last.
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As said already. Just agreeing.
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You have 2 choices: AT&T model that may or may not have it bootloader unlocked or T-Mobile model (which is what I have on GoPhone). T-Mobile and Developer Edition are the same except warranty.
However, you need to be aware that T-Mobile version is lacking LTE Band 5 that AT&T model has. It seems that AT&T is not using it in USA now but I am not sure and don't know if this will change in the future.

kj2112 said:
Don't get the at&t version. Can't unlock bootloader. Well, there's a way for 40 bucks or so....but it may not last.
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As said already. Just agreeing.
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I call BS $40 on the boot loader unlock for att.
Are you in reference to a Sim/network unlock?
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(

matt99017d said:
I call BS $40 on the boot loader unlock for att.
Are you in reference to a Sim/network unlock?
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
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People have successfully unlocked their unlockable bootloaders already. And more are each day.
Members with a history here too....not less than 10 post members. LOL.
But it may be a limited time thing.....someone in China is doing it. He could poof anyday.
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kj2112 said:
People have successfully unlocked their unlockable bootloaders already. And more are each day.
Members with a history here too....not less than 10 post members. LOL.
But it may be a limited time thing.....someone in China is doing it. He could poof anyday.
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I said UNLOCKABLE boot loaders.
ATT variant does not have that option.
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(

matt99017d said:
I said UNLOCKABLE boot loaders.
ATT variant does not have that option.
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
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LOL. You didn't do your homework ....did you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2659234
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You're welcome for the info.
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I still don't see where the att variant has a unlockable BL.
Yes, you can use OTHER variants with the att network that have unlockable bootloaders. But the motox we get from att can not be unlocked. Same thing with the Verizon. Right?
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(

matt99017d said:
I still don't see where the att variant has a unlockable BL.
Yes, you can use OTHER variants with the att network that have unlockable bootloaders. But the motox we get from att can not be unlocked. Same thing with the Verizon. Right?
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
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Not to rub it in, but Verizon at least has Developer Edition

JoeSchmoe007 said:
Not to rub it in, but Verizon at least has Developer Edition
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Salt buddy. That was with salt and no water!
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(

Doesn't matter if unlocked version doesn't support LTE band 5. AT&T is not going to suddenly shut off the other bands and leave a few hundred millions of their users lack of LTE access because they don't have a phone that support it.
AT&T's LTE Advanced allow speed faster than 100mbps use the combination of band 4 and 17, the unlocked version supoprt both bands. I'm not sure if a specific modem or hardware is required for this "carrier aggregation" to work on AT&T though. Base on the specs, the Moto X have dual antenna (MIMO for LTE), so it probably should work with LTE Advanced, I'm not 100%. If it is missing, then as long as you don't need 100mbps+ LTE download speed, it's not too bad. But overall, it's a non-issue with lacking of LTE band 5.

matt99017d said:
I still don't see where the att variant has a unlockable BL.
Yes, you can use OTHER variants with the att network that have unlockable bootloaders. But the motox we get from att can not be unlocked. Same thing with the Verizon. Right?
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
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Man, read the thread I linked. You're looking fairly silly right about now.
YES.....there is a way to unlock the at&t bootloader....permanently. tho, it may not go on for long. The guy doing it could disappear.
Read the thread and stop arguing. Lol
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....

kj2112 said:
Man, read the thread I linked. You're looking fairly silly right about now.
YES.....there is a way to unlock the at&t bootloader....permanently. tho, it may not go on for long. The guy doing it could disappear.
Read the thread and stop arguing. Lol
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fair enough.
However I don't mind looking silly...thanks for the link.
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(

I am one of the lucky ones who unlocked my XT1058 (AT&T MOTO X) the guy in China must have access to some internal Moto tool because it looks like an official way to unlock a locked bootloader. once unlocked, TWRP, slide to root.

matt99017d said:
fair enough.
However I don't mind looking silly...thanks for the link.
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
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Congrats on unlocking!
Where's my commission for pointing it out?
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kj2112 said:
Congrats on unlocking!
Where's my commission for pointing it out?
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Lol, your funny.
It was that private msg I sent you saying thank you.
A good heart felt THANKS is better than a beer right!?!?
Sent from my UNLOCKED Moto X!

matt99017d said:
Lol, your funny.
It was that private msg I sent you saying thank you.
A good heart felt THANKS is better than a beer right!?!?
Sent from my UNLOCKED Moto X!
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I'm kidding! LOL. Glad it worked out for you.
And no....I don't take donations.
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In reality tho....beer trumps thanks. Lol
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[Q] Will this method work on a non dev moto x on 4.4?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MzKvXkq44o&feature=youtu.be
i found this video on youtube but i didn't see anything on xda about it and it was only published to youtube 3 days ago leading me to believe this method is brand new. Any opinions? Anyone here on XDA try this method out themselves to verify if it works or not?

silvernirvash said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MzKvXkq44o&feature=youtu.be
i found this video on youtube but i didn't see anything on xda about it and it was only published to youtube 3 days ago leading me to believe this method is brand new. Any opinions? Anyone here on XDA try this method out themselves to verify if it works or not?
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This is for a Moto X with an unlocked bootloader.

Any unlocked Moto x is the same as an unlocked dev edition. Exactly the same.
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kj2112 said:
Any unlocked Moto x is the same as an unlocked dev edition. Exactly the same.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
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well my phones not unlocked....yet.....4.4 is unlockable right? Or do i have to RSDlite back to 4.2.2 first and then unlock?

silvernirvash said:
well my phones not unlocked....yet.....4.4 is unlockable right? Or do i have to RSDlite back to 4.2.2 first and then unlock?
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Doesn't matter what you're on. It will wipe your phone tho. It will leave you with your system, but all apps and internal sd card wiped. Everything.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....

kj2112 said:
Doesn't matter what you're on. It will wipe your phone tho. It will leave you with your system, but all apps and internal sd card wiped. Everything.
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you keep saying it doesn't matter what i'm on so does that mean it'll also work for 4.4.2?

silvernirvash said:
you keep saying it doesn't matter what i'm on so does that mean it'll also work for 4.4.2?
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Yup.
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You don't technically need an os installed at all. You're just unlocking the bootloader. Has zero to do with the other software on the phone.
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kj2112 said:
Yup.
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You don't technically need an os installed at all. You're just unlocking the bootloader. Has zero to do with the other software on the phone.
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have you tested this out personally? or are you just trolling?

silvernirvash said:
have you tested this out personally? or are you just trolling?
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I try to help....and that's your thanks?
Good luck here on xda my friend. Gonna be a rough ride.
Bye.
Also, any sort of a search would answer this for you, but instead of scolding you for not searching....I helped. Answered your question, more than once. Then I get accused of trolling? LOL wow.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....

kj2112 said:
I try to help....and that's your thanks?
Good luck here on xda my friend. Gonna be a rough ride.
Bye.
Also, any sort of a search would answer this for you, but instead of scolding you for not searching....I helped. Answered your question, more than once. Then I get accused of trolling? LOL wow.
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sorry sir it's just that i've come across MANY MANY trolls on the net lately and such. No offence it's just kind of a forced habit response when ever i feel the whole thing is sketchy to me. This video shows it works but the video maker doesn't show the version of the phone he has, nor does he show the version of android he has so it makes me go "well does this REALLY work? or is this just bs?" And this method isn't even on XDA forums itself so when someone comes along and says "yes it'll work" for a method that isn't mentioned on the forum itself it makes me wonder. Sorry if I offended you I didn't mean to.

and i just tried it TWICE and it said "invalid image size for partition recovery" so no it doesn't work on 4.4.2 because it didn't work for me.

silvernirvash said:
and i just tried it TWICE and it said "invalid image size for partition recovery" so no it doesn't work on 4.4.2 because it didn't work for me.
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I was talking about unlocking your bootloader. You asked if you could do that on 4.4.2 and I said yes, repeatedly.
As far as you tube video, ignore it. Unlock bootloader and root with twrp or cwm, as the guides on xda explain.
Good luck!
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And it says in the comments on you tube you need to have an unlocked bootloader.
So there you have it. You need to unlock your boot loader first. And yes, you can do that on 4.4.2.
The you tube comments say it does indeed work on 4.4.2.
But all you need is twrp or cwm to root. Very very easy.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....

kj2112 said:
I was talking about unlocking your bootloader. You asked if you could do that on 4.4.2 and I said yes, repeatedly.
As far as you tube video, ignore it. Unlock bootloader and root with twrp or cwm, as the guides on xda explain.
Good luck!
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And it says in the comments on you tube you need to have an unlocked bootloader.
So there you have it. You need to unlock your boot loader first. And yes, you can do that on 4.4.2.
The you tube comments say it does indeed work on 4.4.2.
But all you need is twrp or cwm to root. Very very easy.
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and the only way to unlock the bootloader is by paying someone from china or something right?
i find it a tad bit sketchy to send my IMEI to someone i don't know + 45$ to unlock my phone.....

silvernirvash said:
and the only way to unlock the bootloader is by paying someone from china or something right?
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You've never said what model you have. Some can unlock on Motorola site, for free. (Voids warranty if not a dev edition)
And some can't and have been paying the guy from China. And that method could disappear anytime....no one knows how he does it or who he is. But he could stop anytime. I know nothing of that stuff, I unlocked mine on Motorola site.
Also, that you tube video is nothing new at all. Its just an extra, and usually unnecessary step to a method already in the guides here, using twrp. So you are aware.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....

kj2112 said:
You've never said what model you have. Some can unlock on Motorola site, for free. (Voids warranty if not a dev edition)
And some can't and have been paying the guy from China. And that method could disappear anytime....no one knows how he does it or who he is. But he could stop anytime. I know nothing of that stuff, I unlocked mine on Motorola site.
Also, that you tube video is nothing new at all. Its just an extra, and usually unnecessary step to a method already in the guides here, using twrp. So you are aware.
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ah i see. How will i know if my model is unlockable through motorola's site directly? just follow their steps and see if it works?

Verizon and at&t non dev phones can't be unlocked on Motorola website. Maybe a couple others in other countries, but don't know which.
There was a guy apparently from China selling unlock codes for those phones, but not sure how long that will last. There's a thread about it.
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Verizon and at&t non dev phones can't be unlocked on Motorola website. Maybe a couple others in other countries, but don't know which.
There was a guy apparently from China selling unlock codes for those phones, but not sure how long that will last. There's a thread about it.
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yeah but it costs like 40+$ and i don't have that kinda cash atm :/

Well, for fully functional root....so far 4.4 is as far as an unlocked Moto x can go. For now anyway.
4.4.2 can have root, but write protection is enabled and any power off or hard reboot will undo any system changes. I'm not an expert on how that all works tho, cause I've had an unlocked bootloader since day one and can root the normal way on any version of android.
So you're probably stuck on 4.4 if you don't have an unlocked bootloader. Or upgrade and forget about root.
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Well, for fully functional root....so far 4.4 is as far as an unlocked Moto x can go. For now anyway.
4.4.2 can have root, but write protection is enabled and any power off or hard reboot will undo any system changes. I'm not an expert on how that all works tho, cause I've had an unlocked bootloader since day one and can root the normal way on any version of android.
So you're probably stuck on 4.4 if you don't have an unlocked bootloader. Or upgrade and forget about root.
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sigh.....i already accidentally took the upgrade when i thought i hit cancel for the update so now i'm stuck on 4.4.2 until someone finds some way around this locked bootloader bull****. Fking verizon....

Is it just me or do any of you see how pointless that video was. The guy did all these extra steps to install super user when twrp would have done it for him.

Is XT1053 a developer version?

I searched the forum but still can't figure it out. Could someone please give me a straight answer and thanks.
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I assume so, that's what I got. GSM Developer Edition.
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Not necessarily. I have a 1053 and it's NOT a developer device. I think all t mobile variants are 1053.

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Not necessarily. I have a 1053 and it's NOT a developer device. I think all t mobile variants are 1053.
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Actually, the T-Mobile variant IS considered the GSM developer edition. It is SIM-Unlocked, and Bootloader-Unlockable
There are 2 developer editions:
GSM: T-mobile Variant XT1053
CDMA: Verizon Developer edition XT1060 (interestingly, the non-Dev edition is also XT1060)
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X

Only difference between T-Mobile and Developer edition is that the Dev edition can be bootloader unlocked and rooted without losing the warranty. Hardware-wise it's the same.

@x2h
As stated (although I don't trust the Wikipedia link as they get the supported frequencies wrong... and link to the wrong FCC docs for the wrong carriers as their references)..
The XT1053 describes two models... which are the same internally... (At least in the USA, I'm not sure about the rest of the world!)
GSM Developer Edition and the "GSM Unlocked (with T-Mobile SIM)"
The differences...
Developer Edition comes only as 32gig, black face, woven white back and silver accents (buttons and ring around camera), and says Developer Edition on the back. Moto's web site gives out the bootloader unlock code, and it does NOT void the warranty.
The "GSM Unlocked" (as described on Moto Maker web site) can be fully customized via Moto Maker as 16 or 32gig and all the front, back and accent colors that are offered. While Moto's web site gives out the bootloader unlock code, requesting the code *DOES* void the warranty.
The bands, features, functions, installed software, modems, ROMs, are exactly the same on both varients of the XT1053. When requesting the Dev Edition Rom from Motorola, the file name starts with TMO_RETAIL_XT1053....
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Actually, the T-Mobile variant IS considered the GSM developer edition. It is SIM-Unlocked, and Bootloader-Unlockable
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Technically that is not correct.
The T-Mobile variant is actually the "GSM Unlocked (ships with T-Mobile SIM)" as described on the Moto Maker Website. Yes, it too is an XT053, and the internal hardware/specs are the same, but unlike the Dev Edition, you can customize its front/back/accent colors, get it as 16/32gb, and requesting the unlock code for the bootloader voids the warranty.
(Dev Edition XT1053 is not customize-able, comes only as 32gig, and requesting the unlock code for the bootloader *does not" void the warranty)
And the Dev Edition says "Developer Edition" on its back, where as the Non-Dev Editions do not.
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...CDMA: Verizon Developer edition XT1060 (interestingly, the non-Dev edition is also XT1060)
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Correct.
Just as with the XT1053 Dev vs Non-Dev, the Dev and Non-Dev XT1060 models are the same internal hardware, use the same roms, radios, etc. However, requesting the Dev Ed XT1060 rom from Moto, the file name does not have VZW or Retail in it.
The differences being...
Non-Dev Edition, you can customize its front/back/accent colors, get it as 16/32gb, and Moto does NOT supply the bootloader unlock code.
Dev Edition for Verizon XT1060 is not customize-able (same black face, woven white back, silver accents), comes only as 32gig, and Moto DOES give out the bootloader unlock code for free on their web site, and requesting the unlock code for the bootloader *does not" void the warranty. The Dev Edition XT1060 says "Developer Edition" on its back, where as the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon do not.

Thanks for all the quick answers. It is clear to me now.
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Thanks for all the quick answers. It is clear to me now.
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Hey, I'm in the same boat. I would like to buy a used T-Mobile variant and am struggling to tell them apart. So does this thread seem to imply that if it says "Developer Edition" on the back, then it's definitely not the T-Mobile variant? That is, if it doesn't say that on the back, and if the model number is XT1053, then it must be the T-Mobile variant? Also, if the phone is XT1053 and 16GB, then it must be the T-Mobile variant?
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@x2h
As stated (although I don't trust the Wikipedia link as they get the supported frequencies wrong... and link to the wrong FCC docs for the wrong carriers as their references)..
The XT1053 describes two models... which are the same internally... (At least in the USA, I'm not sure about the rest of the world!)
GSM Developer Edition and the "GSM Unlocked (with T-Mobile SIM)"
The differences...
Developer Edition comes only as 32gig, black face, woven white back and silver accents (buttons and ring around camera), and says Developer Edition on the back. Moto's web site gives out the bootloader unlock code, and it does NOT void the warranty.
The "GSM Unlocked" (as described on Moto Maker web site) can be fully customized via Moto Maker as 16 or 32gig and all the front, back and accent colors that are offered. While Moto's web site gives out the bootloader unlock code, requesting the code *DOES* void the warranty.
The bands, features, functions, installed software, modems, ROMs, are exactly the same on both varients of the XT1053. When requesting the Dev Edition Rom from Motorola, the file name starts with TMO_RETAIL_XT1053....
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Technically that is not correct.
The T-Mobile variant is actually the "GSM Unlocked (ships with T-Mobile SIM)" as described on the Moto Maker Website. Yes, it too is an XT053, and the internal hardware/specs are the same, but unlike the Dev Edition, you can customize its front/back/accent colors, get it as 16/32gb, and requesting the unlock code for the bootloader voids the warranty.
(Dev Edition XT1053 is not customize-able, comes only as 32gig, and requesting the unlock code for the bootloader *does not" void the warranty)
And the Dev Edition says "Developer Edition" on its back, where as the Non-Dev Editions do not.
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Correct.
Just as with the XT1053 Dev vs Non-Dev, the Dev and Non-Dev XT1060 models are the same internal hardware, use the same roms, radios, etc. However, requesting the Dev Ed XT1060 rom from Moto, the file name does not have VZW or Retail in it.
The differences being...
Non-Dev Edition, you can customize its front/back/accent colors, get it as 16/32gb, and Moto does NOT supply the bootloader unlock code.
Dev Edition for Verizon XT1060 is not customize-able (same black face, woven white back, silver accents), comes only as 32gig, and Moto DOES give out the bootloader unlock code for free on their web site, and requesting the unlock code for the bootloader *does not" void the warranty. The Dev Edition XT1060 says "Developer Edition" on its back, where as the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon do not.
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Hey, I'm in the same boat. I would like to buy a used T-Mobile variant and am struggling to tell them apart. So just to confirm: If it says "Developer Edition" on the back, then it's definitely not the T-Mobile variant? That is, if it doesn't say that on the back, and if the model number is XT1053, then it must be the T-Mobile variant? Also, if the phone is XT1053 and 16GB, then it must be the T-Mobile variant?
Thanks very much for your contribution to this thread!

AxlRose77 said:
Hey, I'm in the same boat. I would like to buy a used T-Mobile variant and am struggling to tell them apart. So just to confirm: If it says "Developer Edition" on the back, then it's definitely not the T-Mobile variant? That is, if it doesn't say that on the back, and if the model number is XT1053, then it must be the T-Mobile variant? Also, if the phone is XT1053 and 16GB, then it must be the T-Mobile variant?
Thanks very much for your contribution to this thread!
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GSM Developer Edition is an XT1053 that comes with 32 gig storage, black face, chrome trim, and white woven back that says Developer edition.
"GSM Unlocked (with T-Mobile SIM)" is an XT1053 that can come with EITHER 16gig or 32gig storage, black or white front, and various options for back and trim.
As for bands/frequencies, software, both of these XT1053 are the same. The only differences are the storage options and color options.
Keep in mind, both the GSM Dev Edition (XT1053) and the Dev Edition for Verizon (XT1060) "look" the same (black face with white woven back that says Dev Edition on it, silver trim). The XT1060 has CDMA/EVDO/LTE support for Verizon, so its missing a few of the bands T-Mobile and ATT would use.

[Q] Thinking of buying the 2013 Moto X

Hi,
I currently own a Nexus S, customized with AOSP Kitkat ROM. While this is a wonderful device, I think the time has come to change it. 512MB of RAM is just way too low for KitKat and newer apps that are RAM hungry. However, I don't like big phones. I like my Nexus S because it is small and fits everywhere. My brother has a Nexus 5 and it just doesn't fit in my hand. The screen is beautiful, but it is too big for my hand.
I was passing by a carrier store last week and came accross the Moto X and Moto G, both last generation. Both are the same physical size, even though the screen on the Moto G is 4.5inches and the X is 4.7. They fit pretty well in my hands and I love their design. It is also a great thing that it is running nearly stock Android with Motorola applications.
I know the Moto X isn't the most powerful phone on the market, and this isn't what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a nice upgrade with features that I like and a device that feels good in my hands.
Is the device worth it ? Are the Motorola extra features (Moto Assist, Active Display, Touchless controls) working fine ? I can easily imagine my Moto X docked in my car and me asking it for directions or change songs. I can't do that with the Nexus S; it is way too weak in power.
Do you know if I have to keep the stock launcher to get those features ? I really enjoy Apex.
How's the battery life ? I am usually not power hungry as I don't play games on my phone or even watch videos. I listen to music, check rss feeds and social networks.
Lastely, what would you change to the (old) Moto X ? From the reviews that I have read, I understand that the screen isn't incredible, but would you say that it is an issue ?
Thanks for any input
Neo.

Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
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The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.

What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display

Was in the same situation as u 2 months ago, coming from a droid 3. Was looking at moto x and maxx, but battery was a huge plus for me, and went with the maxx, and I couldn't be happier with my choice. Although, it is a 5 inch screen.
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KJ said:
Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
Just my opinion. ?
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Thanks. It did answer if a third party launcher can be installed and keep Motorola features. The answer is yes
titetanium said:
The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.
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I am in Canada, so the device costs more. In fact, I can't really buy the device anymore in Canada and would have to import it from the US. More of a hassle, but may be worth it. I could get the 16GB XT1058 for about 300$USD shipped.
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What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display
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I am currently with Koodo (Telus) in Canada, but I would buy an unlocked device or unlock it myself. Rogers and Fido had the Moto X as an exclusive here in Canada. You couldn't buy the Moto X anywhere else than these carriers store. So if I wanna get a Moto X on Koodo, I must unlock it anyway. As for the Droid Maxx, I've read many times that the radio isn't working properly in Canada. I would have to dig a bit.
On another note, I was looking at how to root the Moto X and it is much more complicated than my Nexus S. If I can get a Dev edition it would be easier but they are hard to find (and not cheap). Gotta love Nexus devices for that reason !

You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.

KJ said:
You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.
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Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?

The best buy in the last couple of years. I definitly recommend it. I always was the type of person, who felt like having to fiddle a lot with the phone, to fulfill my needs. (I came from LG devices). I always rooted and installed custom ROMs. But believe it or not, I still dont feel the need to root or install a different Software, since the stock ROM runs amazingly great on my phone. I also had the G in my hands, but the X display is way better. Camera... Well it is not the best, but also not as bad as many said. Battery is amazin. And although I already had phones with more capacity, this one lasts longer by far. I also listen to a LOT of music and the phone still gets me through the day quite easily. But there is one thing I would consider. The new 2014 X. For me personally, the screen is too big, but maybe it will be just right for you? And yeah it does not have killer specs, but the phone is definitly smoother than other flagship phones, which often laag due to the extra ("great"/"special") custom UI.
Those are my 2 cents. Hope it helps a bit
Sent from my XT1052 using XDA Free mobile app

I think it would be quite an upgrade for you and still worth it..
If you have any specific questions feel free to post here or message me

spookyneo said:
Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?
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Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.

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KJ said:
Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.
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OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better

$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????

spookyneo said:
OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.

tt c6 said:
$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????
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I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.
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No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.

spookyneo said:
I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.
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I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.

KJ said:
I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one

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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one
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Yup. ?
Kijiji.

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