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[Q] camera and notification led

hi guys, I would like to buy this phone but camera really scares me.. I read some reviews and saw some pictures pretty bad (with a lot of light a lot of white for example).. are images really that bad? other phone I would like to but is the xperia T with better camera, but cm10.1 development is better for the LG I think so I am really undecided.. :crying:
and what about pictures in cm10.1, are much worse than in stock jb? (I see someone ported the stock camera in cm, that's why i am asking..)
also, there is no notification led on this phone right?
thanks in advance bye!

moly82 said:
hi guys, I would like to buy this phone but camera really scares me.. I read some reviews and saw some pictures pretty bad (with a lot of light a lot of white for example).. are images really that bad? other phone I would like to but is the xperia T with better camera, but cm10.1 development is better for the LG I think so I am really undecided.. :crying:
and what about pictures in cm10.1, are much worse than in stock jb? (I see someone ported the stock camera in cm, that's why i am asking..)
also, there is no notification led on this phone right?
thanks in advance bye!
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The camera is the same on stock LG or on cm10.1 there are maybe different processes after having taking the picture but there is not a lot of difference.
However IMO, the camera is not that bad, I do not take photos as a professional but for me the photos are great.
You can see some pictures taken with the LG Optimus 4X HD in this subject : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866677
I find them pretty good but once again I do not take many photos so i can't really judge.
Anyway the Xperia T is not as powerful as the O4X in term of performance and its screen is smaller
And there's no notification LED on the O4X but there's an app which manage to use the light of the hardware keys as notification led. That's not really clear but tell me if you did not understand
Here is the link for this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821249
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ectoplasma22 said:
The camera is the same on stock LG or on cm10.1 there are maybe different processes after having taking the picture but there is not a lot of difference.
However IMO, the camera is not that bad, I do not take photos as a professional but for me the photos are great.
You can see some pictures taken with the LG Optimus 4X HD in this subject : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866677
I find them pretty good but once again I do not take many photos so i can't really judge.
Anyway the Xperia T is not as powerful as the O4X in term of performance and its screen is smaller
And there's no notification LED on the O4X but there's an app which manage to use the light of the hardware keys as notification led. That's not really clear but tell me if you did not understand
Here is the link for this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821249
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thanks a lot for the reply!
yes I saw that link, images seems pretty good, but on some websites I saw pretty bad pictures.. well btw I don't make so many pictures actually, so if quality is average I think I could live with the LG camera
about the screen yes I read everywhere it is better on the LG, as per the power I know LG has quad core so seems better, but I heard for gaming for example it is not so good as there are no so many videogames optimized for the tegra platform.. so xperia T should work even better than the LG with the most of the games.. btw I am not a heavy gamer so the performance should be enough for me
thanks for the hardware keys light mod, didnt' see that and it would be perfect if it works on cm10.1 also!
last important thing is the battery, I read some (pretty old) reviews where they said phone get hot soon and battery drains a lot in that condition, but I think with new firmwares/kernel situation is improved right?!
thanks a gain for your help!

moly82 said:
thanks a lot for the reply!
yes I saw that link, images seems pretty good, but on some websites I saw pretty bad pictures.. well btw I don't make so many pictures actually, so if quality is average I think I could live with the LG camera
about the screen yes I read everywhere it is better on the LG, as per the power I know LG has quad core so seems better, but I heard for gaming for example it is not so good as there are no so many videogames optimized for the tegra platform.. so xperia T should work even better than the LG with the most of the games.. btw I am not a heavy gamer so the performance should be enough for me
thanks for the hardware keys light mod, didnt' see that and it would be perfect if it works on cm10.1 also!
last important thing is the battery, I read some (pretty old) reviews where they said phone get hot soon and battery drains a lot in that condition, but I think with new firmwares/kernel situation is improved right?!
thanks a gain for your help!
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Always happy if I can help :thumbup:
The battery life has been improved a lot with the customs roms like cm10.1 and the different kernels we have now (like Iodak, Werewolf, Optimus Prime or EPRJ). So thanks to the dev the battery like is no more a problem (at least for me).
Honestly, I can play my favourite games smoothly, I play Fifa 12, Virtua tennis and some other casual games and they are absolutely lagfree.
I do not play real heavy games but I read that with some combination of kernel and rom, you can play every games smoothly on this phone
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ectoplasma22 said:
Always happy if I can help :thumbup:
The battery life has been improved a lot with the customs roms like cm10.1 and the different kernels we have now (like Iodak, Werewolf, Optimus Prime or EPRJ). So thanks to the dev the battery like is no more a problem (at least for me).
Honestly, I can play my favourite games smoothly, I play Fifa 12, Virtua tennis and some other casual games and they are absolutely lagfree.
I do not play real heavy games but I read that with some combination of kernel and rom, you can play every games smoothly on this phone
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thanks again! you are really convincing me in buying this phone!
last thing (for now ) can you confirm panorama works perfectly in both stock JB and cm10.1?
I read a review where they said panorama was not always working fine because of focus problems..??!! I really like/need panorama feature so I would like to have it perfectly stable
also I see there is no video video stabilization in camera (video recording).. but are videos good enough?
byeeeeee

moly82 said:
thanks again! you are really convincing me in buying this phone!
last thing (for now ) can you confirm panorama works perfectly in both stock JB and cm10.1?
I read a review where they said panorama was not always working fine because of focus problems..??!! I really like/need panorama feature so I would like to have it perfectly stable
also I see there is no video video stabilization in camera (video recording).. but are videos good enough?
byeeeeee
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Haha this phone is really good but I do not want to influence you too much
For me, the panorama works perfectly, there are sometimes default on the picture but the most of the time the panorama do his work as it should
We also have a port of the Nexus 4's camera so Photosphere is available on this device.
The videos are good, it's true that the stabilization is not perfect but the videos are good enough for my taste.
Just to remind you that I'm absolutely not a professional so i can't really judge the camera since I never use a real camera.
Anyway for a normal use and with cm10.1 the camera should be good enough even if it's not the best part of the O4X
Hope that helped you
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One more word on the camera: My wife has a Samsung Galaxy Ace 2, which makes not that excellent pictures (quite a little blurry even under optimal conditions). When she took a look at the pics my O4X made, I had trouble getting it back Sure you cannot compare them with a DSLR -- but for the "Amateur", they are pretty good.

thanks guys for all the replies, I am really close to the purchase I found the phone here in Italy at about 270 Euro and I think is a very good price so I am about to buy it I am pretty sure I will miss the xperia T camera but some other things make me prefer the LG to the sony: for example it has re-lockable bootloader if I well understood, no need to cut my sim, removable battery, more powerful, better screen, better cm10.1 port than the xperia T (afaik the xperia T have reboot problems with cm10.1, so I think LG cm10.1 is better ) etc
just have one final doubt hope you can help
is there somebody of you that always or most of the time stays on 2g and just in case of need switch to 3g and then again go back to 2g?
I need to know if 2g data connection is stable, as I much prefer to always stay with 2g to save battery.. (one of the reasons why I want to change my phone is that with my motorola I must stay always in 3g to have a stable connection, in fact as soon as I switch to 2g I have many disconnections or no connection at all.. so if I change the phone spend money and then have the same problem I could kill myself :laugh: )
can you confirm 2g connection is stable on O4X? if yes, with both stock JB and cm10.1?
thanks a lot guys!

moly82 said:
thanks guys for all the replies, I am really close to the purchase I found the phone here in Italy at about 270 Euro and I think is a very good price so I am about to buy it I am pretty sure I will miss the xperia T camera but some other things make me prefer the LG to the sony: for example it has re-lockable bootloader if I well understood, no need to cut my sim, removable battery, more powerful, better screen, better cm10.1 port than the xperia T (afaik the xperia T have reboot problems with cm10.1, so I think LG cm10.1 is better ) etc
just have one final doubt hope you can help
is there somebody of you that always or most of the time stays on 2g and just in case of need switch to 3g and then again go back to 2g?
I need to know if 2g data connection is stable, as I much prefer to always stay with 2g to save battery.. (one of the reasons why I want to change my phone is that with my motorola I must stay always in 3g to have a stable connection, in fact as soon as I switch to 2g I have many disconnections or no connection at all.. so if I change the phone spend money and then have the same problem I could kill myself :laugh: )
can you confirm 2g connection is stable on O4X? if yes, with both stock JB and cm10.1?
thanks a lot guys!
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bootloader is semi-lockable. it's info is stored in fuse file, which has 16 or so chances of lock & relock. but for each lock & relock, you have different value of the file, so you can easily see how many times it has been locked/relocked.
as for 2g, i'm using 3g half a month and 2g the other half - i have 250mb of internet at 3g speeds in my prepaid plan, and after i use that up, which is usually aroudn 15th - 20th in the month, i switch to 2g. using CM based roms & kernels nowadays, and i dont have any problems with it. :good:

Flying_Bear said:
bootloader is semi-lockable. it's info is stored in fuse file, which has 16 or so chances of lock & relock. but for each lock & relock, you have different value of the file, so you can easily see how many times it has been locked/relocked.
as for 2g, i'm using 3g half a month and 2g the other half - i have 250mb of internet at 3g speeds in my prepaid plan, and after i use that up, which is usually aroudn 15th - 20th in the month, i switch to 2g. using CM based roms & kernels nowadays, and i dont have any problems with it. :good:
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thanks my friend, you are great!
unless something big will happen, we will probably meet again in cm10.1 and others thread here in this phone subforum

moly82 said:
thanks my friend, you are great!
unless something big will happen, we will probably meet again in cm10.1 and others thread here in this phone subforum
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no problem, glad i could help. i hope you're as happy with your future phone as i am with mine :highfive:

guys, I read many threads in this subforum about this phone to see in advance what I will need to do when I get it, and it is not clear to me one thing: is it true that some O4X models can not be unlocked? So if I buy it I should check if I get a "good" one or not? :silly:
(I saw some posts about EUR-xxx etc)
tx!

This was before now I'm almost sure that every O4X can be unlocked
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ectoplasma22 said:
This was before now I'm almost sure that every O4X can be unlocked
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thanks mate you are great! I saw many threads with unlocking procedures but did not see that one sorry!

I was convinced by many threads on this forum to buy this phone, people says, battery life is OK, phone is smooth, camera is OK, then I bought this phone and that was the biggest mistake I did. To clarify:
1. Camera: pictures are not bad but when you want to record a video in a noisy place distortion is all the time, my previous Moto RAZR xt910 recorded video 10x better.
2. Battery life: I tried every combination ROM/Kernel and when I was unplugged my phone at 6:00Am after 12 hours battery was dead. This phone barely lasts 2 hours screen on time. So battery life is worst then every smartphone I had (check signature).
3. Sat Nav. I coudn't use this phone as a SatNav in a car because when you driving and screen is ON car charger can't charge this phone because it's discharging too fast. Result? After few hours the phone is dead unless you turn the screen off and wait for car charger charge the battery.
4. Dust under screen: I was use this phone in usual way, hold in my front jeans pocket, after 2 - 3 monts a big piece of dust poped out in a centre of screen, you can see it on a second picture on my ebay auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330939115679?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649
Now I rather buy Xperia T then this piece of crap.
That's my opinion, I try to save you cause I regret nobody did it for me.
(sorry for my English, it's not my mother tongue)

wow that's bad.. you are changing my mind.. i would use a lot the phone as sat nav and if the battery drain is higher than the car charger charge that would be a big problem for me.. someone else can confirm that?
my present phone (defy+) connected to the car charger while using Google maps navigator and also play music at the same time doesn't discharge, but get charged! (very slowly of course but still it get charged..)
lukas77: excuse me Sir but what make you think that things with xperia T will be different?
tx btw for your opinion

moly82 said:
wow that's bad.. you are changing my mind.. i would use a lot the phone as sat nav and if the battery drain is higher than the car charger charge that would be a big problem for me.. someone else can confirm that?
my present phone (defy+) connected to the car charger while using Google maps navigator and also play music at the same time doesn't discharge, but get charged! (very slowly of course but still it get charged..)
lukas77: excuse me Sir but what make you think that things with xperia T will be different?
tx btw for your opinion
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if you hit a certain temperature treshold, your cell phone goes into "slow charging" mode, which can lead to battery being discharged even while plugged in. to bypass this, you can enable "unlimited charging" in secret menu that you access by typing a code. this way, you won't lose battery no matter what you do, as long as your phone is being charged. keep in mind that this may make phone a lot hotter than usual.
as for his battery problems, he must've had baseband_xmm bug. the phone lasts around 3 hours onscreen time for me (and truth to be told, i am not happy with that, so i plan on getting another battery. however, i've seen people push 5 hours onscreen time, probably with brightness set veryx low), and uses 0.5% per hour on standby with wifi and data off. you do the math how long it can stay in standby, if managed properly.
out of the box the phone might not perform the way you want it; finding kernel & rom combination that works takes some trial & error.
a big bug myself and some other people have, is that gps somehow loses signal with headphones plugged in, and it seems people with both stock and us with custom roms experience this bug. this might understandibly be a dealbreaker for some, so it's better to let you know beforehand.

Flying_Bear said:
if you hit a certain temperature treshold, your cell phone goes into "slow charging" mode, which can lead to battery being discharged even while plugged in. to bypass this, you can enable "unlimited charging" in secret menu that you access by typing a code. this way, you won't lose battery no matter what you do, as long as your phone is being charged. keep in mind that this may make phone a lot hotter than usual.
as for his battery problems, he must've had baseband_xmm bug. the phone lasts around 3 hours onscreen time for me (and truth to be told, i am not happy with that, so i plan on getting another battery. however, i've seen people push 5 hours onscreen time, probably with brightness set veryx low), and uses 0.5% per hour on standby with wifi and data off. you do the math how long it can stay in standby, if managed properly.
out of the box the phone might not perform the way you want it; finding kernel & rom combination that works takes some trial & error.
a big bug myself and some other people have, is that gps somehow loses signal with headphones plugged in, and it seems people with both stock and us with custom roms experience this bug. this might understandibly be a dealbreaker for some, so it's better to let you know beforehand.
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thanks a lot my friend, exact, helpful and clear as always
yes that gps bug would be a big bug for me actually, thanks for letting me know! (i often use gps navigation while phone is connected to the car stereo through headphones to listen to some music so gps malfunctioning would be really a big problem for me!)
strange i did read a lot around about this phone and have never reed anything about that.. thanks again!
well my other choice would be the xperia T but that suffers the reboot bug in cm10.1 and that also is a big bug for me.. really don't know what to do now..
bye and thanks all and good night maybe sleep will take some advice's..

Try using CM Stable with iodak v6 kernel. In my case it gave better battery life and much better performance than any other combination.
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hi guys, sorry for posting again here but i would prefer not to open a new thread.. but if mods want me to do so I will do that!
I have one "final" question about this phone.. :laugh: will all the p880's be bootloader unlockable without exceptions? or if I buy it I should worry about that at the purchase and choose a particular model etc?
(I am asking this because for example for the Xperia T they say that if I get a no-brand one it can be easily unloacked, while if I get a branded one I can't unlock the bootloader at all..! is the same for the LG?)
thanks in advance bye!

[Q] Handset Heating

Hi Guys,
I have been using Xperia SP for the past 3 weeks. But since last week, i found that that mobile started getting heated up if i play some games for 5 mins. Also if i switch on camera and keep it running for 5 mins, mobile started heating up. Heat in the sense i can feel the warmth when i hold my phone. Is this normal? Or anything wrong with my handset? Please help me out guys. I have put the flip cover which Sony has given as free product along with the purchase of this mobile. Any kind of reply is very much appreciated. I am really worried cos of this issue in my mobile.

jayasatish1988 said:
Hi Guys,
I have been using Xperia SP for the past 3 weeks. But since last week, i found that that mobile started getting heated up if i play some games for 5 mins. Also if i switch on camera and keep it running for 5 mins, mobile started heating up. Heat in the sense i can feel the warmth when i hold my phone. Is this normal? Or anything wrong with my handset? Please help me out guys. I have put the flip cover which Sony has given as free product along with the purchase of this mobile. Any kind of reply is very much appreciated. I am really worried cos of this issue in my mobile.
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Its pretty normal. My experience tells me that if u flash the latest .245 STOCK ROM u will notice a lil improvement. But still heating up :highfive:

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Joku1981 said:
Its pretty normal. My experience tells me that if u flash the latest .245 STOCK ROM u will notice a lil improvement. But still heating up :highfive:
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Thanks for the quick reply bro.. I have Updated with the latest firmware dude. Still my mobile is getting heated up. I have seen many reviews and videos before buying this mobile. But none of the reviews specified about this heating thing. If mobile started heating just for 5 mins of gaming, i am wondering how guys are playing high end games and completing it.

jayasatish1988 said:
Thanks for the quick reply bro.. I have Updated with the latest firmware dude. Still my mobile is getting heated up. I have seen many reviews and videos before buying this mobile. But none of the reviews specified about this heating thing. If mobile started heating just for 5 mins of gaming, i am wondering how guys are playing high end games and completing it.
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Its pretty much something you get used to after a while.Also this will help you getting through the harsh winter !!! The highest temperature that i got was 48 degrees C.Pretty hot i know but you have a powerfull processor and graphics that drain the battery thus increasing its temp.
Use CPU Z https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cpuid.cpu_z to monitor your battery temperature if you like.

So you mean to say this is not actually a big problem to worry about? Or do I need to take my mobile to the service centre for a quick check? Please suggest me.

Can't make any guarantees but it's generally not a problem unless it's getting hot when you're doing nothing. If the device cools to between 20 and 25 degrees once you've stopped activity there's nothing wrong.

Parkside said:
Can't make any guarantees but it's generally not a problem unless it's getting hot when you're doing nothing. If the device cools to between 20 and 25 degrees once you've stopped activity there's nothing wrong.
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ditto,
havent seen a single phone that doesn't get Hot when playing games, especially ones which use the GPU/CPU a lot
on the whole it stays pretty cool under normal use compared to other phones.
regards

raziel123 said:
ditto,
havent seen a single phone that doesn't get Hot when playing games, especially ones which use the GPU/CPU a lot
on the whole it stays pretty cool under normal use compared to other phones.
regards
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Right my friend has a Huawei phone and it was steaming hot today after a game session. Mine top temp was 48.5 C
As said above if cold down afterwards your device is ok.
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Dont worry the phone heats when u use graphic intense games.

Thanks a lot guys for your replies! I was actually worried about this heating and thought of approaching the nearby service center. Now i am ok with this! Thanks once again..

[Q] AT&T Note 3 Iffy Framerates/Benchmarks?

Hi all so let me start by saying ive always enjoyed this site and its users and help. unfortunately what brings me here is that Im having issues with some fluidity of this device based on what ive seen from other videos regarding games and their benchmarks. Ok so heres a few examples of titles im speaking of. Dead Trigger 1&2, Modern Combat 4, all of the Grand Theft Auto games. Even DraStic DS Emulator which ive seen running perfectly on a user posted Note 3. My wifes iPhone 5c runs these games literally perfect, my Note 3 struggles here and there. So that led me to running almost every benchmark i could think of and to my concern again all of my scores are coming up a hair shorter than other users. And gameplay isnt just quite as smooth as other user videos. I almost have no other issues with the device and im constantly taking care of its memory and cache. Even factory rest a few times. Its nothing more than normal Android hiccup that ive been used to. But with Project Butter and these other videos I just need to know if theres an issue with my device or did I get screwed buying the Note 3. Has anyone else noticed this? Either via gaming or web scrolling or the notorious Youtube Streaming smoothness issue. Please any help is greatly appreciated. Ive even taken the liberty of posting every screen cap of benchmarks that i took. You dont have to look at all the photos but im thorough so i gave you all of them.

I don't know what is wrong with your device but something doesn't seem right. You Antutu seems way low compared to mine and even the stock phone. Do you have any power saving apps running or something?
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duhbanjopicker said:
I don't know what is wrong with your device but something doesn't seem right. You Antutu seems way low compared to mine and even the stock phone. Do you have any power saving apps running or something?
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See thats what I dont understand its a factory reset. Heres my other concern with your screenie, yours is even higher than alot of scores Ive seen. So I cant quite get a figure on what the norm is for this device. Especially since there are so many versions with two different chipsets too boot. What I dont get is if these scores are the norm then why. Since as much as I hate iOS i have to give it credit where its due: ITS ABSOLUTELY SMOOTHER THAN A DEVICE WITH MORE PHYSICAL RAW POWER? My gripes arent even major the hiccups are only every now and then but for the most part I have a hard time seeing any other YouTube Note 3's that display the behavior. And its not even that its bad or doesnt work, i just got concerned with the hiccups.

I'm running a custom ROM. But yours is even lower than the stock mark?? Weird
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Should really try and root and install safe strap and run a custom rom see if it help. Power saving mode on maybe?

duhbanjopicker said:
I'm running a custom ROM. But yours is even lower than the stock mark?? Weird
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I thought about trying the same idea of flashing it and Ive done many other devices. Buts thats not why I bought the device, I dont wanna brick it or just flat out tamper with it, and it seems hit or miss from person to person or at least what Ive seen. Reviews say it hiccups but videos Ive watched on youtube dont really do it or i cant quite notice it over the occasoinal stutter that youtube itself presents lol. Any ideas? Even the Exynos Bench's are alost identical to our SnapDragons save for one or two tests. i dont get it im confused lol.

Overgloc said:
Should really try and root and install safe strap and run a custom rom see if it help. Power saving mode on maybe?
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No power save. And theres no AT&T Stock Binary yet. Im not messing with that OneClick lol. Any other ideas?

Id be just as satisfied if everyone can say their device runs all these games with out one single hiccup. Ever. Lol. I know Android games arent as optimized as ios but Im just trying to understand why or how to fix it or if some poeple have also experinced it. And like i said youtube stutters on its own on my laptop and Note 3 so its been hard to use that as a reference.Ive been able to use it to compare my ps3 games framerates but the quality of vidoes out there are crap since most are being recorded unprofeesionally. The other half is just as a i said hard to tell from youtube.

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*bump* I hate doing it, just looking for more input. Thanks.

I know you said you dont have "power save" on...but this sounds stuiped but I had this problem before...Even though your button says power save is off Have you clicked to the left of the button and bring this menu up and make sure its not on Auto on is enabled?

yeh auto save was enabled on mine.cool I took it off.Didn't even know that menu existed.lol

Ok so this was after turning every option I could think of. My question still remains that I don't understand why others are still getting higher results. Also these numbers have had no effect on gaming it still hiccups in most hardware intensive applications just slightly more than an iPhone 5c I just don't get it.

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have you ran the test after a reboot. i noticed on mine it was about 33500 but then when i redid the test after a reboot it did 36000

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have you ran the test after a reboot. i noticed on mine it was about 33500 but then when i redid the test after a reboot it did 36000
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Well I've been keeping it eye on it more and i've gotten as high as 33,000 or whatever it was in that screenie but it's not consistent it'll drop back down in the 27'000 area. Plus like I said my main concern is I can't get this phone to play games as well as my wife's iPhone does. I mean this is a quad core right. Last I checked no iPhone should beat this on pen and paper right? And it's not unplayable and most wouldn't care but I just wanted to know if this hiccup here and there is acceptable as normal?

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I'm getting around 34k too on benchmark,but I'm playing some games and it runs nice hmm

tankxx said:
I'm getting around 34k too on benchmark,but I'm playing some games and it runs nice hmm
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I contacted AT&T and they're sending me a replacement. Well see what happens then. But you guys never see a hiccup in your gaming. Never the slightest framerate dip? And i should clarify that when im comparing it to the iPhone the framerates there stay consistent. My device plays great but here and there it hiccups. That's actually what I'm really referring to. And if so how is that possible comparing it to s device of lesser power? I mean I don't make this stuff up I keep noticing that almost every game I play runs just that much better on my wife's iPhone 5c than a Note 3...

Note 5 horrible lag

Just picked up the Note 5. I came from the iphone6. Needless to say its pretty bad. Many of the games I have tried to play on it have horrible lag. Couple examples would be Big Fish Casino, Clicker Heroes, Order and Chaos, and Hearthstone. I did some testing with my GF's phone, which is the S6 Edge+, her phone does the same thing with clicker heroes. Didn't go much further than that. I still have a few days left to return the phone but I am having trouble believing that both my phone and hers could be defective. My iphone6 didn't stumble a bit on any of these games.
Anyone know if the above games should cause FPS lag? Facebook does a number to it also, but only when trying to make me sync new photos. I may just end up going with the iphone6s because I had zero problems with it the last 2 years.
Thanks

Mikey8470 said:
Just picked up the Note 5. I came from the iphone6. Needless to say its pretty bad. Many of the games I have tried to play on it have horrible lag. Couple examples would be Big Fish Casino, Clicker Heroes, Order and Chaos, and Hearthstone. I did some testing with my GF's phone, which is the S6 Edge+, her phone does the same thing with clicker heroes. Didn't go much further than that. I still have a few days left to return the phone but I am having trouble believing that both my phone and hers could be defective. My iphone6 didn't stumble a bit on any of these games.
Anyone know if the above games should cause FPS lag? Facebook does a number to it also, but only when trying to make me sync new photos. I may just end up going with the iphone6s because I had zero problems with it the last 2 years.
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Update the software if there is any updates. Then factory wipe(make sure to backup any data to your computer). Fixes most if not all problems with lag.

Mikey8470 said:
Just picked up the Note 5. I came from the iphone6. Needless to say its pretty bad.
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Not sure if this is the right approach to this forum. When you say "needless to say" does it mean you were expecting it to be laggy ? Becasue I don't see this to be a common problem. Not even sure why you moved away from your iphone if you were so happy about it.
It would be useful , for anyone to chip in , to know what model and firmware you have.
As for the lag my simple answer is : I have a 920G , rooted with dr Ketan Fware and SkyHigh Kernel, and my N5 is screaming fast with no lag.
P_

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Not sure if this is the right approach to this forum. When you say "needless to say" does it mean you were expecting it to be laggy ? Becasue I don't see this to be a common problem. Not even sure why you moved away from your iphone if you were so happy about it.
It would be useful , for anyone to chip in , to know what model and firmware you have.
As for the lag my simple answer is : I have a 920G , rooted with dr Ketan Fware and SkyHigh Kernel, and my N5 is screaming fast with no lag.
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I apologize for the bad approach. Spoke out of frustration. The model is SM-920T and the build number is LMY47X.N920TUVS2COKC.
I also factory reset the phone and when I tested clicker heroes again its pretty much locks the phone up if there are too many coins flying along side clicking.

Mikey8470 said:
I apologize for the bad approach. Spoke out of frustration. The model is SM-920T and the build number is LMY47X.N920TUVS2COKC.
I also factory reset the phone and when I tested clicker heroes again its pretty much locks the phone up if there are too many coins flying along side clicking.
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That sounds weird, I've had nothing but a quite smooth experience on this phone even just stock rooted. However i do have SkyHigh kernel installed and i have to say it makes a world of difference.

succumbtothegreater said:
That sounds weird, I've had nothing but a quite smooth experience on this phone even just stock rooted. However i do have SkyHigh kernel installed and i have to say it makes a world of difference.
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I have already talked to the service rep that sold me the phone. Of course hes like "Eh must be the sim card." He denied that the phone was locking up. I will probably go and get a new one tomorrow before my 14 days are up and they try to stick me with a refurb. I haven't had a rooted android device since the Droid X first came out. Is it a lot safer now days? Just don't wanna try to root a device that is having so many hicupps out of the box.

You don't need to root for great performance. I've been running stock for months and all is very smooth with great battery life.

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You don't need to root for great performance. I've been running stock for months and all is very smooth with great battery life.
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So do you think I have a dud phone then? I think I will go get a new one anyways. It is probably the best thing to do if I am not happy with the current performance of my phone.

It's not a dud. Also, it's not lag, more like dropping frame rate or an inconsistent frame rate. The note 5 doesn't lag, it just can't produce a consistent frame rate in games I play. That's how android is.
I just got a note 5 as a business phone and I use a 6s plus as a main phone. On most games iOS is way smoother than android. It's because the games developed on iOS for very few devices. Android games on the other hand have to be made to run for many kinds of models. I love my note 5 but I just have to accept the fact that games run smoother on iOS because the game developers are able to optimize their apps. This is easily seen in hearthstone for iOS vs android.
My note 5 is my business phone, the iPhone is for gaming. I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but the truth is if you want a smooth gaming experience and can't have both operating systems like I do, just go back to iOS.

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It's not a dud. Also, it's not lag, more like dropping frame rate or an inconsistent frame rate. The note 5 doesn't lag, it just can't produce a consistent frame rate in games I play. That's how android is.
I just got a note 5 as a business phone and I use a 6s plus as a main phone. On most games iOS is way smoother than android. It's because the games developed on iOS for very few devices. Android games on the other hand have to be made to run for many kinds of models. I love my note 5 but I just have to accept the fact that games run smoother on iOS because the game developers are able to optimize their apps. This is easily seen in hearthstone for iOS vs android.
My note 5 is my business phone, the iPhone is for gaming. I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but the truth is if you want a smooth gaming experience and can't have both operating systems like I do, just go back to iOS.
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Yes. Dropped frame rate in games and in animations (scrolling through lists is the worst experience e.g. Youtube Facebook ...). Rooting and new kernel improves significantly, so it' a software issue, not hardware.

Willyman said:
Yes. Dropped frame rate in games and in animations (scrolling through lists is the worst experience e.g. Youtube Facebook ...). Rooting and new kernel improves significantly, so it' a software issue, not hardware.
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Is there any way to actually go against this and set a certain frame rate? Some guy developed an app that did it for the LG G3 but again they're very different devices so

Yes, there is a utility app from Samsung that allows you to adjust the frame rate and other settings as well. It is called Game Tuner, you can get it on the Google Play store. Enjoy!

KruseLudsMobile said:
Yes, there is a utility app from Samsung that allows you to adjust the frame rate and other settings as well. It is called Game Tuner, you can get it on the Google Play store. Enjoy!
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Whoa thanks! I actually just got a replacement device a few days ago, dropped my OG on its back, cracked the LCD and wouldnt work. This new device, same settings, everything, its flying, way better than my previous one. The OP's issue could just be his device and needs a replacement

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Whoa thanks! I actually just got a replacement device a few days ago, dropped my OG on its back, cracked the LCD and wouldnt work. This new device, same settings, everything, its flying, way better than my previous one. The OP's issue could just be his device and needs a replacement
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Get the app anyway and try to push the device to be all it can be!

Smooth display vs. force 90hz ?

So just messing around with my 4 XL today, I have the Smooth Display enabled, and honestly just don't see a big difference between my 3 XL, as far as scrolling websites, or moving up down in Contacts or Google Feed panel.
But I then went to Developer Options, and enabled the Force 90hz option, and tried going through those same things again, and then I noticed it, everything did actually feel smoother and bit faster. But that's supposed to be a huge battery drain leaving that on.
My question, is Smooth Display not really working or allowing websites to be shown in 90hz?

Zorachus said:
So just messing around with my 4 XL today, I have the Smooth Display enabled, and honestly just don't see a big difference between my 3 XL, as far as scrolling websites, or moving up down in Contacts or Google Feed panel.
But I then went to Developer Options, and enabled the Force 90hz option, and tried going through those same things again, and then I noticed it, everything did actually feel smoother and bit faster. But that's supposed to be a huge battery drain leaving that on.
My question, is Smooth Display not really working or allowing websites to be shown in 90hz?
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A better question would be, were those apps stuttery to begin with? If they weren't, then the 90hz is working properly, IMO. It will only kick in when it is really needed. I think that's what they were trying to accomplish with it. But from what I have heard, the latency caused from going from one app that uses 90hz back to 60 and vice versa, can be a little choppy at times. Probably why they gave us the option to enable all the time. Just in case their initial smooth display offering isn't so smooth. I'm sure it will get better over time.

Brownlee and a couple others have stated the smooth display is buggy and will sometimes get stuck at 60.

Are people just gonna force 90hz in Developer Options for now, until a monthly security update fixes Smooth Display? Or is that a major battery hit?

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Are people just gonna force 90hz in Developer Options for now, until a monthly security update fixes Smooth Display? Or is that a major battery hit?
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How would anyone be able to answer this today?
You know, you could just try it out and see the battery impact for yourself.

Brownlee said he had done just that and the word he used for the battery life after was "obliterate" which is a long way from good or even ok as a descriptor. He did say he was going to keep it that way so it wasn't a deal breaker in his use. Would have been nice if he quantified that with some actual numbers but it's all I've seen so far. The tech has been in their portfolio for quite some time, my hope is they just need to tune it up somewhat.

Man I'm not forcing 90hz. I seriously notice a big difference without it. No need for me.

Yeah he said obliterate but he uses his phone with max brightness all the time and using tons of social media. Everyones usage style is different. So got to take those reviewers with a grain of salt and see how your usage is.

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Yeah he said obliterate but he uses his phone with max brightness all the time and using tons of social media. Everyones usage style is different. So got to take those reviewers with a grain of salt and see how your usage is.
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Exactly, this is why I said I wished he would have quantified it, if I knew what he got and how he got it I can make something of it. As is there is little that can be gleaned from it other than it is most def worse. In fact that review was fairly rushed in feel which puts him in good company, there was clearly a lot of people that wanted to get the review out the door quick and I saw many factual errors, omissions, judgments made with little perspective, etc. I understand it's part of the game but it doesn't help us on our end.

I saw a reddit post which stated there is a bug where if the screen brightness is below 75%, 90hz is disabled....
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...s_it_look_like_smooth_display_is_turning_off/

Nice find!

deadlast_28 said:
I saw a reddit post which stated there is a bug where if the screen brightness is below 75%, 90hz is disabled....
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...s_it_look_like_smooth_display_is_turning_off/
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Interesting. Nice find.

deadlast_28 said:
I saw a reddit post which stated there is a bug where if the screen brightness is below 75%, 90hz is disabled....
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...s_it_look_like_smooth_display_is_turning_off/
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Well 90htz is a complete waste of time and cost, if brightness has to be over 75%.
My phone's always around 60% screen brightness.
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"Waste of time and cost," because the dynamic doesn't work properly? FFS. If it makes you feel any better, OP didn't even attempt a switch, it's just forced all the time by default. Which, in affect is what you need to do to make this work. Is that a perfect solution, ofc not and I have no doubt that google will fix it. But FFS, quit sh*tting on Google. Either, you bought the device and are now feeling buyers regret, or you're just a troll. Either case, both scenarios will pass...

I would think Google will fix this 90hz bug needing brightness to be above 75%. I expect the next few monthly security updates to have a lot of bug fixes.
It's not like Pixel phones only ones that launch with IS issues, new iPhone's have been known to launch with buggy iOS versions, takes a month or so for them to be ironed out by Apple.

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"Waste of time and cost," because the dynamic doesn't work properly? FFS. If it makes you feel any better, OP didn't even attempt a switch, it's just forced all the time by default. Which, in affect is what you need to do to make this work. Is that a perfect solution, ofc not and I have no doubt that google will fix it. But FFS, quit sh*tting on Google. Either, you bought the device and are now feeling buyers regret, or you're just a troll. Either case, both scenarios will pass...
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Zerokool76..
Irony.... I wasn't ****ting on Google. Get a sense of humour..
My point was simple... If 90htz only works when your screen brightness is above 75%, then it's pretty useless....
And yes I know Google will release a patch to rectify, just like they did with the pixel 2 and the muted colours....
The real irony is another year, another pixel launch and another screen problem !!! Again software just like pixel 2..
Oh and let's not forget the patch that dropped screen brightness to prevent screen burn on pixel 2...
Of course Google will issue a patch..
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skip24ftlb said:
Zerokool76..
Irony.... I wasn't ****ting on Google. Get a sense of humour..
My point was simple... If 90htz only works when your screen brightness is above 75%, then it's pretty useless....
And yes I know Google will release a patch to rectify, just like they did with the pixel 2 and the muted colours....
The real irony is another year, another pixel launch and another screen problem !!! Again software just like pixel 2..
Oh and let's not forget the patch that dropped screen brightness to prevent screen burn on pixel 2...
Of course Google will issue a patch..
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While I agree about the screen issues, I refer you to what I had said about OP. Their devices are forced 90hz constantly. So, in affect, at this point, that is our only option to make 90hz work at higher brightnesses. Which makes it exactly like a OP device. So, it's technically not a waste of money if you can't use it above 75%, because you can. You have to force it, but it works. That's all I'm saying

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While I agree about the screen issues, I refer you to what I had said about OP. Their devices are forced 90hz constantly. So, in affect, at this point, that is our only option to make 90hz work at higher brightnesses. Which makes it exactly like a OP device. So, it's technically not a waste of money if you can't use it above 75%, because you can. You have to force it, but it works. That's all I'm saying
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You're on fire ?lol

I get what your saying.
It's just a fail that you have to go into developer settings...as for 90htz, I doubt if id have noticed it working or not being honest !!
I personally think whilst the pixel 4 is an upgrade over my 2xl, I personally don't think it's a big enough update and some updates imho are a waste of time..
Face unlock.. the finger print sensor worked brilliantly and was in exactly the correct position on the phone.
Soli. Time will tell whether it's a gimic.
Camera..
When the 2 came out, Google were shouting from the roof tops about the highest ever dxmark for the camera.
The p4 camera has improved no doubt, but it's no longer king..
Personally, I'd have kept the finger print scanner. It's a very strong biometric and it worked brilliantly.
A bigger battery. What are Google thinking ?
Bigger MP camera sensor... What could Google do with the latest 48mp sensors and their computer Voodoo witchcraft
An unbreakable screen like the motorola force phones... These phones are getting increasingly expensive..
The 2 tone coloured back.. bring it back. The p4 back is now just like every other phone manufacturers now.
2 steps forward and one back with the p4 I think it's a fair comment
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