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Anyone using JuiceDefender with your galaxy note? is it worth it to buy this application?
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Sam
Save your money and skip it like anti virus apps. Many people recommended it so i bought it but i didn't like it at all. Experienced sluggish performance, connections not stable and sometimes connection doesn't even come back on unless i manually turn it back on. Also push mail doesn't work since juicedefender turns off data when not in use and checks every 15, 30 etc intervals (however u set it to check), i don't like that at all. I rather have 100% reliable fast performance connectivity than app that saves few % of battery. Just my 2cents
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hmm i heard alot of people telling it saves alot of battery power.. jus wanted to know about the pro version..
Yeah it does save quite an amount. You can configure it to on off Wi-Fi necessarily or learn specific network when you are on the particular area of interest.
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hmm i heard alot of people telling it saves alot of battery power.. jus wanted to know about the pro version..
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My experience was with juicedefender ultimate.
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My experience was with juicedefender ultimate.
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How was it? any real battery improvement? any lagging issues?
Sam
My previous phone was pretty crappy and I had pretty crappy service, so I had to make sure I turned wifi, mobile data, etc. off when not using them. On my Note, I don't even bother turning them off because they drain so little. I don't think bothering with Juicedefender is worth the trouble.
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Had an old Xperia Arc and Juice Defender worked quite well to last me the day.
Now with the Note, I tried with and without it and I find no significant difference actually.
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I agree...
Being new to the android and rooting scene. I downloaded all the recommended apps and one by one uninstalled them including juicedefender...
Whats the point of it stopping data when screen is off? It defeats the purpose of push notifications.
Also I didn't notice any real extension of battery life either
I think it depends how you set up juice defender ultimate. For example on weekdays and working hours I use the "peek" option, letting jd enable connection every 5 minutes. Of course I have than battery drain. With different settings on different times and/or days (up to flight mode at night) I have significant less battery consumption.
It is also important when you use your phone a lot with the screen on, not to let jd automatically turn data on, because then there is obviously no difference at all, with or with out jd running.
There is no use of such apps, I have tried used many such apps from my S2 days and I never felt any difference in performance or battery life..just let it go. Ur using an Android device, and if u use it as a smartphone should be used, u will need to charge in at least once a day.
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AutoStarts is doing everything for me.
I had used JuiceDefender for a short spell when on GB. However, BetterBatteryStats soon showed what a battery hog JD was, so I made it disappear from my phone. Forever.
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I had used JuiceDefender for a short spell when on GB. However, BetterBatteryStats soon showed what a battery hog JD was, so I made it disappear from my phone. And never again.
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Exactly. Juice defender is crap. Its just for lazy people who can't maintain their settings on their own. and juice defender is obviously always running in the background, using up cpu power and draining battery on its own
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How was it? any real battery improvement? any lagging issues?
Sam
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It does save little battery and drains at the same time. Huge down side of using this kind of app is no push and data connection is glitchy, sometimes takes awhile to connect back to network or wifi and slower performance. I can still use gnote all day with single charge so I don't find this kind of app useful to me at all. It's really not hard to turn off and on data or wifi on android unlike ios crap where you have to dig in settings.
Save few % battery vs slow performance, hit or miss connection.. I think answer is simple
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I used to use it, ultimate version. But I quit using it and still have great battery because of my own setting changes. Juicedefender might be okay for people that don't use their phone much. But, if you are constantly on it, like I am, it is just a memory and battery hog.
Its not worth it, and possibly wastes battery juice rather than saving it.
I've been using it for several weeks now, when i go to sleep my usual percentage is from 70 to 85 % i always turn wifi off as i don't charge it at night. With the app running in the background, when i wake up it goes down to 45% when i do not use it as in its not running in the background I'm the morning the battery percentage only hours down by 5% max to 80%.
Pcworld made an intensiv3 comparison on the effect this apps do. The verdict: keep your money.
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battery saver is better
Don't bother. I used it on my HTC Flyer and I saw no difference. Migrated it to the SGN and I saw a huge difference after I uninstalled.
The features are limited and just stupid if you ask me. I believe the best battery app would regulste connectivity on demand (ie when I open Dolphin or refresh Facebook it would connect automatically and disconnect immediately afterwards).
If you are looking to extend battery life I suggest self regulating your connectivity (ie use the toggles) and screen brightness.
For even better battery life try and avoid apps that constantly run (eg ones that monitor other apos and processes).
You should get very decent life out of the SGN, and if you don't do what I did and get a spare battery. They are cheaper than you might think and they are an absolute life saver in emergencies or times with heavy usage.
Hope that helped
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Just browsing the web or reading Facebook I feel the phone getting really hot. A short phone call also causes a rapid heating of the battery. Using Android System Info Pro and I see the battery temperature is 107.5° F is this normal? I had a Note2 and it never heated up like this causing massive drain. I am using Watchdog to monitor if I have any apps running rogue and I find nothing unusual.
I already called and have an advanced RMA in progress and they are replacing the device. I got it Wednesday and I am not having anywhere near the great battery I see others reporting.
Sorry if this has already been covered I did search the forum and my search yields no results.
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I use my phone a lot and no issues here. Forget hot, it doesn't even get warm. I don't play any games, mostly lot of browsing thru various apps, listening to music, watching YouTube videos.
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Just browsing the web or reading Facebook I feel the phone getting really hot. A short phone call also causes a rapid heating of the battery. Using Android System Info Pro and I see the battery temperature is 107.5° F is this normal? I had a Note2 and it never heated up like this causing massive drain. I am using Watchdog to monitor if I have any apps running rogue and I find nothing unusual.
I already called and have an advanced RMA in progress and they are replacing the device. I got it Wednesday and I am not having anywhere near the great battery I see others reporting.
Sorry if this has already been covered I did search the forum and my search yields no results.
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Did you check for an rogue apps? Sounds like your clock speed was getting stuck at the max frequency... This would result in faster battery drain and the phone heating up.. Much like playing a resource intensive game.
If the issue persists with the new device, the the culprit is most likely an app you downloaded.
Does your device ever enter deep sleep?
What is your wake lock situation?
Post up some screen caps of your battery statistics, this will better help to determine the cause.
Moto X rocking 4.4
There's nothing rogue I can find. I don't think it's software, watchdog finds nothing. Better battery stats shows it deep sleeps. I believe there is an electrical issue because while using Chrome I touched the screen and haptic feedback went crazy when I touch the screen and look at this screenshot you will see an orange blob on the bottom right of the screen and it was stuck and flickering. Very strange.
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I also think it gets hot easily. The battery temp can rise 20-30°F just by doing some web browsing for 1-2 minutes. Did you find any solution?
I'm on KitKat 4.4.2
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Just browsing the web or reading Facebook I feel the phone getting really hot. A short phone call also causes a rapid heating of the battery. Using Android System Info Pro and I see the battery temperature is 107.5° F is this normal? I had a Note2 and it never heated up like this causing massive drain. I am using Watchdog to monitor if I have any apps running rogue and I find nothing unusual.
I already called and have an advanced RMA in progress and they are replacing the device. I got it Wednesday and I am not having anywhere near the great battery I see others reporting.
Sorry if this has already been covered I did search the forum and my search yields no results.
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i have the same issue.. mine is even worse... my device goes as high as 47° C (116.5° f) , and i remember...once i was charging my device and uploading a lot of files to google drive and it went 54° C (129°F)
i am thinking of a replacement... please let me know about the issue when you get your replacement.
EDIT : sorry i noticed this thread is very old... soo.. how is your new Moto X now?
I've checked around and haven't really found a great answer.
I've had my Z1 for a week and a half. Always have stamina activated with WiFi by location on with advanced selection. Also running battery guru with WiFi management off (since the stamina has the option to be selective as to only activate if WiFi networks are present in area and battery guru does not). Have seen a little improvement with battery guru.
I'll grab screenshots tonight. First half of the week I was lasting half a day. I've had improvement but really not sure where I should be at since I've seen a lot of 1 day results seen here on XDA. Still amazed how I'll wake up silence my alarms and my phone loses 1% of battery in 5 minutes.my drain is incredible still and have screen settings as battery friendly as possible.
My settings are screen brightness as low as it can be. I have LTE in my area and LTE is usually always what my signal is. My GPS only activates when an app needs it and my auto refresh is set to being very selective usually once every 4 hours for calendar weather etc. I keep an eye on my WiFi just in case the auto turns it on and Im at work and can't connect to the secured county network etc. I'm doing my best just wanna see if I can squeeze every bit of the phone I can.
I'm not rooted running stock c6903 with current firmware and 4.3. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. I know this is a common topic but really just wanted to ask and see what input I can get. So far though very pleased with the phone. I'm coming from a droid maxx on T-Mobile so I know I'll never get as good as that phone had but this camera is far worth the trade off.
Thanks everyone!!
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Do not use the folowing:
Battery savers
Ram Cleaners
avoid the folowing:
apps that prevents sleep (find this in the battery info in your settings)
to extend battery life and avoid wear:
do not use when batter is 60 or above
try not to disturb charging (unplugging before it hits 90)
avoid heat, can cause battery to die quicker
some other things:
greenify is an app known to actualy work
try crystalizing apps, (from android tuner)
debloat your system (not recomended unless you know what your doing)
install a custom kernel (not recomended either)
hmm there is some ive missed but most of this i do , get 3/4 days with my xperia s and 6/7 with my Z1
if i remember anything ill add to this
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Thanks I'm not rooted but I am rather proficient with advanced android operation. So your recommendation is to not use battery guru from qualcom? And I'm in the process of removing bloatware
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Thanks I'm not rooted but I am rather proficient with advanced android operation. So your recommendation is to not use battery guru from qualcom? And I'm in the process of removing bloatware
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im not too sure about battery guru
if it keeps your Z1 from sleeping dont use it
the majourity of ram cleaners and battery savers usualy dont work.
Ram Cleaners for some reason just make your device feel boggy and generaly ugh
battery savers usualy keep your device from sleeping or make your android feel sluggish
I don't believe battery guru keeps the phone from sleeping since its an app directly from Qualcomm designed for devices specifically with snapdragon processors due to the strong processor battery correlation. But as far as today goes this is where I'm at for bed time.
I had moderate use today considering I was in class from 830-430. I'm in the field tomorrow so I will post after my shift tomorrow. Here is today.
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I'm using a mix of BatteryGuru, Lux Lite(for adaptive brightness), and Greenify.
IMO Greenify actually works by not exactly 'freezing' the app but letting it not run in the background.
As for Lux, it's handy mostly because it can adjust accordingly to where you are as the default adaptive brightness is clunky
just because its proprietary doesn't mean it has to work
without any battery saving techniques i come over 2days with: wifi always on, gps always on (for myxperia), mid screen brightness, auto sync, push mail from sony stock email on average usage.
with those energy saving techniques sony put in our device, i'll be far better. sending data in interval comes in really handy. personally i really don't like stamina mode (whatsapp + pushmail and gmail won't notify me as long as the screen is turned off) but will safe a huge amount of battery.
location based wifi annoys me too much.
ive bought this device just because of the large battery and wasn't disappointed. even heavy users should easily come over one day without charging
what's your biggest energy drain? 1% in 5 minutes is way to much. something seems to be fishy
Haha that's true. Wouldn't be the first time proprietary apps have steered me wrong. It says screen is my big energy eater which I'm perplexed by since I have brightness as low as possible. Do you have LTE in your area? Those are amazing numbers for not using stamina. Maybe I should start messing around with turning stamina off and switching things up.
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Haha that's true. Wouldn't be the first time proprietary apps have steered me wrong. It says screen is my big energy eater which I'm perplexed by since I have brightness as low as possible. Do you have LTE in your area? Those are amazing numbers for not using stamina. Maybe I should start messing around with turning stamina off and switching things up.
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nah i dont have lte in my area
Ive left stamina mode on, helps quite alot, i dont realy mess with the settings, no need to realy
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Can anyone let me know the below temperatures for Xperia T CPU running stock rom is ok or not ok?
idle : upto 36C ish
on slight use : above 40C
on longer usage of basic apps such as whatsapp, viber, facebook: between 40 to 50C
browser: around 55C (browsing xda took it over 60C)
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CPU temperature is not so important, it will always be that "hot" while being on use. Battery temperature is the thing that should be important to you.
I think these values are ok, as long as your phone does not shutdown unexpectedely (with the aproppriate "Shutting down" mesaage box) - that usualy means that the temperature of both CPU and the battery is way too high and any other operations may result in their permanent damage. If you don't experience such situations then I think you shouldn't be worried about anything
Anyway I have to tell you that IMHO this phone has, in fact, some "problems" with overheating or at least with pretty high temperature than it should be normally. But I don't care, after two years of really heavy usage - it still works and it never disappointed me, I hope you won't be too
Thermal throttling will start at around 65-70C, at 80 the phone will shutdown.
These functions are hard coded in kernel, so dont worry.
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CPU temperature is not so important, it will always be that "hot" while being on use. Battery temperature is the thing that should be important to you.
I think these values are ok, as long as your phone does not shutdown unexpectedely (with the aproppriate "Shutting down" mesaage box) - that usualy means that the temperature of both CPU and the battery is way too high and any other operations may result in their permanent damage. If you don't experience such situations then I think you shouldn't be worried about anything
Anyway I have to tell you that IMHO this phone has, in fact, some "problems" with overheating or at least with pretty high temperature than it should be normally. But I don't care, after two years of really heavy usage - it still works and it never disappointed me, I hope you won't be too
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Battery temperature hasn't gone beyond 40C if I remember. Only started to monitor recently. I've been using this just over two years too and never felt any heat when using it for normal usage on 4.0 and 4.1 stock roms.
Only felt it on 4.3 and downgrading after trying 4.3 uk rom 2nd time, even 4.1 now produces noticeable heat which is what's bugging me. Really regret for upgrading to 4.3 for a 2nd time :'(
The initial downgrade was done through SEUS as 4.3 wasn't released for UK then and had the blue triangle icon on some bootups but no other issue or heat.
Which rom do you use now on your device?
40C is really low value for the battery. Trust me, you really shouldn't be worried about the temperature
I was using the newest build of OmniROM until yesterday. I flashed the newest release of CM11 and I'm not disappointed.
ok, thanks. I am trying the Omega v2 rom since yesterday, but it seems to make it much warmer so might head back to 4.1
What helped me on my Xperia V is rooting, downloading No-Frills Cpu Controp and changing governor to ondemand (it was interactive by default).
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What helped me on my Xperia V is rooting, downloading No-Frills Cpu Controp and changing governor to ondemand (it was interactive by default).
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thanks, just installed the app. It seems to be 'ondemand' by default. :/
Just finished setting up 4.1 stock rom, and a little bit of usage heats it up very quickly. With the heat, battery level goes down very quickly too
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thanks, just installed the app. It seems to be 'ondemand' by default. :/
Just finished setting up 4.1 stock rom, and a little bit of usage heats it up very quickly. With the heat, battery level goes down very quickly too
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Well it happens on my Xperia V too no matter what I do, but since I've been using a silicone case I don't notice it anymore and it doesn't burn my fingers like it used to. Maybe try changing governor to interactive...I'm using it now and the phone seems pretty cold
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Well it happens on my Xperia V too no matter what I do, but since I've been using a silicone case I don't notice it anymore and it doesn't burn my fingers like it used to. Maybe try changing governor to interactive...I'm using it now and the phone seems pretty cold
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I've been using a TPU gel case since I bought the phone... and never felt any heat (apart from when trying out 4.3 but yet less than present level of heat). So seems it took 2 years for the phone to start this 'heating up' mode. I am trying to understand if it is a software issue or something to do with hardware.
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I've been using a TPU gel case since I bought the phone... and never felt any heat (apart from when trying out 4.3 but yet less than present level of heat). So seems it took 2 years for the phone to start this 'heating up' mode. I am trying to understand if it is a software issue or something to do with hardware.
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I've read that almost all Sony phones heat up so it's probably a hardware issue...but since rooting and uninstalling all bloatware and disabling some of the google's services, I noticed my phone doesn't really heat up that much anymore.
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I've read that almost all Sony phones heat up so it's probably a hardware issue...but since rooting and uninstalling all bloatware and disabling some of the google's services, I noticed my phone doesn't really heat up that much anymore.
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Even I have rooted and disabled almost all the bloatware including some google apps (actually removed them from the system/app folder itself). This was how it was prior to 4.3 testing and had no issues. Only heated slightly for a YouTube video or so. Removed the same list of items this time around as well, but for even apps like whatsapp it heats..so something is definitely wrong... it remains cool on idle, hence not a background service that causes it.
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Even I have rooted and disabled almost all the bloatware including some google apps (actually removed them from the system/app folder itself). This was how it was prior to 4.3 testing and had no issues. Only heated slightly for a YouTube video or so. Removed the same list of items this time around as well, but for even apps like whatsapp it heats..so something is definitely wrong... it remains cool on idle, hence not a background service that causes it.
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Then it might be a hardware issue :/
My phone used to overheat on 4.3, but on 4.1 it's pretty cool.
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Then it might be a hardware issue :/
My phone used to overheat on 4.3, but on 4.1 it's pretty cool.
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that's exactly how mine was
wondering if there is some clash in the internal memory area.. (which happened when using flashtool to downgrade... from 4.3 this time). Before used SUS as 4.3 wasn't released for UK and it repaired to 4.1
When i play CoC with data mobile the temperature become very high...this can damage any hardware components?
Because i changed the battery two times for random reboots and i think that some components are broken
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ITS WInter DUDE NO WORRIIES!!
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yes, but, that does not help
2 days ago I upgraded to Lollipop with the prerooted version.
Since then whenever I use my phone it runs really hot.
It's even burning in my pocket atm.
With only the slightest usage it already becomes hot.
Anyone has the same problem and maybe a solution?
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2 days ago I upgraded to Lollipop with the prerooted version.
Since then whenever I use my phone it runs really hot.
It's even burning in my pocket atm.
With only the slightest usage it already becomes hot.
Anyone has the same problem and maybe a solution?
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What particular things you're doing with your phone? It's usually getting hotter as you used it for longer times. (Heavy Gaming for example.) Also, have you tried installing a non-prerooted lollipop? also, try not to toggle on the force GPU rendering. Though im not sure if this helps lower the temperature but as i use my phone, like playing COC for one hour or playing a heavy graphics game, it still heats up but not to the point that its unbearable.
Pretty much just browsing and using whatsapp.
Haven't tried an unrooted version yet. But it's just from time to time.
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