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Verizon to kill unlimited plans for existing customers

Have you guys seen this? Doesn't totally surprise me. I figured it would happen sooner or later. Still makes me sad though.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...plans-for-existing-subscribers/?tag=cnetRiver

as soon as it happens, I'm cancelling my contract (since they violated the TOS), and jumping ship to an MNVO.
I don't mind not having unlimited data so as far as my bill reflects that.

xredjokerx said:
as soon as it happens, I'm cancelling my contract (since they violated the TOS), and jumping ship to an MNVO.
I don't mind not having unlimited data so as far as my bill reflects that.
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Please forgive my ignorance, but what is an MNVO?

I don't know if they would be violating the TOS. I'm pretty sure the contracts that we all signed gave them the right to change any damn thing they want, whenever they want to.
This move has probably been planne for since 4g was a but a twinkle in their eye.
I'm pretty sure we'll have to wait out our "upgraded" contracts until the original end dates. And they're betting that by then, we'll have gotten used to the "upgrades."
I just love that have the nuts to call this an upgrade. Freaking hilarious.

well from what ive read, it's for customers with a 3G phone going to a 4G phone. I think if you don't upgrade from them you should be able to keep it. Looks like if the Nexus line expands and is sold through the google play store, im buying my phones straight from google

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well from what ive read, it's for customers with a 3G phone going to a 4G phone. I think if you don't upgrade from them you should be able to keep it. Looks like if the Nexus line expands and is sold through the google play store, im buying my phones straight from google
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that how i'm reading it too, it doesn't sound like i will be required to change my data plan until i upgrade again.
The way it will likely work is that as 3G unlimited contracts expire, Verizon will push subscribers to upgrade their devices to smartphones on company's 4G LTE network. These customers will then have to sign up for the data share plans.
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that how i'm reading it too, it doesn't sound like i will be required to change my data plan until i upgrade again.
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Probably. But that's the velvet glove. Do we know anything about the iron hand inside? If Verizon's spiel is "Upgrade to 4G LTE" and the customer's response is "No thanks", will Verizon counter with "Upgrade to LTE or else find another provider"?
The mindset I'm sensing behind killing off grandfathered unlimited is that they want all of their customers capped, and if you won't be capped, you won't be their customer. They're playing chicken, and most of their affected customer base will be the first to flinch.

They updated their plan...
http://m.cnet.com/news/57436642
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When does this take into effect

sirrdeezy said:
When does this take into effect
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Verizon hasn't said anything more exact than "this summer".

Class action lawsuit.
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theeStig said:
They updated their plan...
http://m.cnet.com/news/57436642
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Yeah, looks like they've opened a loophole in their plan. You lose your grandfathered unlimited if you buy a subsidized new phone (i.e., renew contract). So, if you craigslist or ebay a phone, and convince Verizon to activate it, you'll keep the unlimited data. (Or, if you like giving money to Verizon, buy the phone new from them.)
Interesting. I wonder how many upgrading customers who want the new-new shiny and don't pay much attention to contract plan dynamics will miss that distinction and lose their unlimited access without fully realizing it?

Yup im switching to tmobile! This is such bs!! Tmobile will b the only carrier left with "unlimited" data, after verizon pulls this stunt!!! Oh well, tmobile @ least has the one series phones. Suck it verizon!!
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kwyrt said:
Please forgive my ignorance, but what is an MNVO?
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Its fake cellphone company, Basically the mvno just runs a billing system but "borrows" the cellphone network from someone like Att.
virgin mobile is an example of an mvno as they run off of the sprint network
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator

Just upgrade now, or get a new one off cl like someone already stated
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Wow, ridiculous. Does your greed know no bounds, Verizon?
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Sprint: The Comeback

So, as many of you know, Sprint took a huge fall from 2004-2006. They have since to recover fully to the mobile giant they once were, but as of recently, some monumental changes have been made. Many analysts even believe 2014 will be the year for Sprint. Lately, Network Vision has made a huge impact on many customers (including myself) with 4G LTE and upgraded 3G, the iDen (push-to-talk) network has been shut down for good, Sprint acquired ClearWire, and SoftBank invested in Sprint. They're even dropping the old "Sprint Nextel" name and switching to "Sprint Corp." as soon as the deal goes through.
So what do you guys think? With the owner of SoftBank, Masayoshi Son, willing to throw billions into Sprint for network upgrades, is Sprint making a comeback? Or should we just ignore all that and jump ship to AT&T or Verizon?
I'm fairly optimistic about Sprint myself, so I'd really like to hear some other opinions.

I think Sprint is about to make some power moves and some big ones.a friend of mine in Carolina has metro pcs phone service and when he pulls his battery out of his phone it says Sprint and has a Sprint logo and whenever Sprint makes a move so do they. They rolled out 4g lte at the same time, they have the same equipment, Sprint branding hidden throughout metro pcs devices something is brewing lol....
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I hope sprint doesnt forget about us who stuck with them. If sprint became number one you can bet they will be doing the same rates as verizon. 4g lte with unlimited is good but tmobile has the same and is catching up in the 4g lte department. Plus tmobile is gsm. Always a plus.
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Sprint in Indiana is 100x better since network vision upgrades started. Let's just hope softbank can fund sprint enough to cover all the roaming areas.
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miketucky350 said:
Sprint in Indiana is 100x better since network vision upgrades started. Let's just hope softbank can fund sprint enough to cover all the roaming areas.
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With the Nextel Spectrum now available to Sprint's disposal, the sub-1 Ghz spectrum (the lower the frequency, the more coverage/wall penetration is has.) will help Sprint's national footprint by a longshot. This is only possible now because Sprint shut down the Nextel network on June 30th. Not only that, but for the crowded areas, Sprint has Clearwire with their enormous Spectrum holding, that they literally have enough spectrum to offer 100mbps speeds on their towers. This is completely up to Softbank and their plans, but from what I hear, Softbank is only going to make Sprint better for its consumers, and the duopoly in a few years will be hurting.

True. Killing nextel is huge. It will come together in the next 2 years. To bad our phones only support lte 1900. I'm happy to see them in the right direction. I'm sticking with them.
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dreDrennon1 said:
I think Sprint is about to make some power moves and some big ones.a friend of mine in Carolina has metro pcs phone service and when he pulls his battery out of his phone it says Sprint and has a Sprint logo and whenever Sprint makes a move so do they. They rolled out 4g lte at the same time, they have the same equipment, Sprint branding hidden throughout metro pcs devices something is brewing lol....
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that your friend had a sprint device metroflashed to metropcs, thats all that means.

shabbypenguin said:
that your friend had a sprint device metroflashed to metropcs, thats all that means.
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No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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dreDrennon1 said:
No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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i dont know what kind of store your friend bought it at but i assure you metropcs has never sold a sprint like device. i have been working on their phone since the sgs1 days and they had a crappy knock off of the epic called the indulge 4g.

dreDrennon1 said:
No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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Because metro stores can by a lot of Sprint phones from a distributor , brand new in the box.
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shabbypenguin said:
i dont know what kind of store your friend bought it at but i assure you metropcs has never sold a sprint like device. i have been working on their phone since the sgs1 days and they had a crappy knock off of the epic called the indulge 4g.
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I don't know what kind of store it was but he called to ask me about a possible merger between the 2 companies when he saw it to see if I had heard anything because I worked for Sprint at the time I told I had not heard anything and he said his phone was branded Sprint with the Sprint logo in the battery compartment but the outside was metro pcs branding the phone he had at the time was their version of the original Motorola photon
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daniel4653 said:
Because metro stores can by a lot of Sprint phones from a distributor , brand new in the box.
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no corporate store would do that, they would rather try to sell you the phones metropcs actually has, they stopped the metroflash service for that reason
there was no version of the photon for them, us cellular had the electrify, but metropcs has NEVER had a moto android device
edit: turns out they did have a few metro phones here was their last one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXqXijDNvlU

I've seen plenty do that. I have brothers who are distributors and sell a couple dozen phones at a time to cricket and metro.
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shabbypenguin said:
no corporate store would do that, they would rather try to sell you the phones metropcs actually has, they stopped the metroflash service for that reason
there was no version of the photon for them, us cellular had the electrify, but metropcs has NEVER had a moto device
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Yeah that is the phone so it was us cellular my bad I got the little guys mixed up they both might as well be straight talk as far as I am concerned lol I don't have either one of them here in Nashville so I don't know what metro flash is bro Lol we have Sprint, Verizon, at&t, t mobile, cricket and simple mobile oh and of course straight talk thanks to Wal-Mart
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Either way it was a small company in a weak Sprint coverage area with Sprint branding inside the phone battery compartment
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dreDrennon1 said:
Yeah that is the phone so it was us cellular my bad I got the little guys mixed up they both might as well be straight talk as far as I am concerned lol I don't have either one of them here in Nashville so I don't know what metro flash is bro Lol we have Sprint, Verizon, at&t, t mobile, cricket and simple mobile oh and of course straight talk thanks to Wal-Mart
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not a problem. and since the reverse merger with tmobile is almost done, id suggest you keep your eye on metropcs. they had the first lte phone, first lte service in america, merged with tmobile to become the 4th largest carrier in america. now they have an agressive 2 year plan to shut off cdma and switch all of their prepaid customers to gsm within that time. as it turns out 60%+ of metro's customer upgrade their devices at least once a year. it will be interesting to see how much metro's cheap plans will end up cutting a hole into tmobile's famous 30 dollar plan.

shabbypenguin said:
not a problem. and since the reverse merger with tmobile is almost done, id suggest you keep your eye on metropcs. they had the first lte phone, first lte service in america, merged with tmobile to become the 4th largest carrier in america. now they have an agressive 2 year plan to shut off cdma and switch all of their prepaid customers to gsm within that time. as it turns out 60%+ of metro's customer upgrade their devices at least once a year. it will be interesting to see how much metro's cheap plans will end up cutting a hole into tmobile's famous 30 dollar plan.
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We will see what happens I mean you merge with another company to be number 4 that doesn't sound like you are trying to make power moves to me that really won't affect us in our market because T-Mobile is not holding their own very well around here because their coverage sucks here for every 10 stores of the big 3 you see maybe 2 T-Mobile stores and all 4 have call centers here when I worked at Verizon when we had our quarterly meetings they wouldn't even mention T-Mobile if they did it was because they were the punch line of a joke lol
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I've been with Sprint for the first time since May of last year and I'm excited for them and what they have in store for us. I hope they bring 4G LTE to more areas quicker.

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We will see what happens I mean you merge with another company to be number 4 that doesn't sound like you are trying to make power moves to me that really won't affect us in our market because T-Mobile is not holding their own very well around here because their coverage sucks here for every 10 stores of the big 3 you see maybe 2 T-Mobile stores and all 4 have call centers here when I worked at Verizon when we had our quarterly meetings they wouldn't even mention T-Mobile if they did it was because they were the punch line of a joke lol
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Most people just consider T-Mobile just a regional carrier, specific to the west coast. So on the coverage end I don't think Sprint, being the nationwide carrier that they are, has anything to worry about. All I can see is that if Sprint doesn't pick up momentum on the west coast with LTE that T-Mobile could catch up. Right now the only real place that T-Mobile has LTE that Sprint doesn't yet is in Arizona, but Sprint is rolling it out now. Also, now with the SoftBank investment, Sprint has much more capital for a long term LTE and LTE-Advanced deployment. So with all these recent happenings, I see no reason to switch carriers :laugh:

Time will tell...After 14 years with Sprint I keep thinking about getting T-Mobile. I like not having to pay full price on phones though. Heck i make money. LoL. I have 5 lines so always have a upgrade to use.
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With SoftBank and Clear, Sprint has far too much potential for any of us to start being hasty. If your with the girl when she's fat...don't leave when she starts going to the gym.
They only problem they have is their roaming agreement. They have never solidified a good contract for it. The New plans even limit your roaming data and voice, it's they're only down fall imo. But when the build is near complete, that won't be an issue.
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Getting HTC one.. Sprint or Tmo

Not sure if this should go here or not.. But I've been watching the One since it was announced.
And I'm currently on the old $30/month plan from Tmo with an HTC Amaze..
Unfortunately I to get the one from Tmo the require $379 down which is a lot of money at once and will also up my bill to $70
But I also have the option to get one someones Sprint plan and get a One for $99...
But just looking thought the forum, its looking like the GSM One is getting better Dev support
Along with Google ports.
An another possible problem that comes to mind... is CDMA..
I was on sprint awhile ago and Had a HTC Hero and the battery drain was HORRIBLE compared to the my Magic. Not sure if that is still an issue with the new LTE stuff...
But yeah, my real question is, should I go for the Sprint One or hold out a bit and get the Tmo One?

Vonrottes said:
Not sure if this should go here or not.. But I've been watching the One since it was announced.
And I'm currently on the old $30/month plan from Tmo with an HTC Amaze..
Unfortunately I to get the one from Tmo the require $379 down which is a lot of money at once and will also up my bill to $70
But I also have the option to get one someones Sprint plan and get a One for $99...
But just looking thought the forum, its looking like the GSM One is getting better Dev support
Along with Google ports.
An another possible problem that comes to mind... is CDMA..
I was on sprint awhile ago and Had a HTC Hero and the battery drain was HORRIBLE compared to the my Magic. Not sure if that is still an issue with the new LTE stuff...
But yeah, my real question is, should I go for the Sprint One or hold out a bit and get the Tmo One?
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To my knowledge, you're not going to have a significant battery difference between CDMA and GSM. Updates will almost always be slower for us in the Sprint world because GSM variants tend to be more common worldwide, but the devs here work plenty hard. I'd check the forum though yourself to see if there're any ROMs you actually like the look of instead of taking someone else's word on how "good" dev is.
Price-wise, you might be better off going prepaid on T-Mobile, but then you'd need an unlocked GSM One, and that's dicey stuff.

Tmo is the way to go imho. I thought about getting the one when I got my nexus....it's about the only phone I'd consider other than my nexus. I chose the nexus because of the bang for your buck factor and dev support. I'm happy with my choice but I still love the one! Really a beautiful phone, with the guts to match....good luck
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Get tmo. Gsm gets a lot more love
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Yeah, go Tmo. Once you go CDMA, you shall never escape...

T mobile if you can afford it.
You can fully convert it to GPe or dev unlocked edition. It gets more support.
I read somewhere that only Sprint has working Google Wallet, though.
Coverage wise, it depends. Tmo is fantastic here (at least, the HSPA was), but Sprint doesn't even cover some of the places it says has "Good/better 3g".
As someone above said, you should check out the prepaid plans. It might be cheaper/better in the long run if you buy unlocked and just put in a prepaid card. Even if you will go over the data/minutes, the overages may still be cheaper than a contract.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans Check out the $30 one at the bottom. Only 100 mins, but 5GB data.

Using my sprint one on T-Mobile lte
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pbedard said:
Using my sprint one on T-Mobile lte
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What PRL are you using to get that?
Thanks

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Using my sprint one on T-Mobile lte
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flex360 said:
Get tmo. Gsm gets a lot more love
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Yep. I think we'd all have T-Mobile over Sprint if we had our choice. But we all have reasons... It's cheaper to stay on Sprint, etc...

tyler.durden said:
Yep. I think we'd all have T-Mobile over Sprint if we had our choice. But we all have reasons... It's cheaper to stay on Sprint, etc...
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Personally I'm staying on Sprint because they are making moves to make a triband network, as opposed to tmo which is a single band network. But at the moment Sprint is just terrible.
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I got mine 2 weeks ago from tmo and they only ask me to pay $100 down and $70 monthly
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xedualMCx said:
I got mine 2 weeks ago from tmo and they only ask me to pay $100 down and $70 monthly
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Tmo base everything off of your credit check when they run it. For example, my cousin was told he he had to put down $500 and I was told $100.
However I chooses to come back to Sprint because I think they have good things coming ahead and plus Tmo service here where I live is little to nonexistent
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I'm on the $30 plan right now. But to finance a phone for me its 3xx down and sixty something a month.
And those 100 minutes burn up FAST.
In the long run sprint is actually going to be cheaper because I'm getting on an existing plan for 20-30 a month for unlimited everything.
But I'm still not sure I want to go CDMA...
I live in Columbus so coverage for both sprint and tmo is great..
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Other Device and/or upgrading discussion here

Please use this thread to discus both upgrading and/or other devices in this thread, be respectful always. Thanks

Naddict said:
Please use this thread to discus both upgrading and/or other devices in this thread, be respectful always. Thanks
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But we already have an off topic thread >_>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2319960&highlight=off+topic :good:

Coming from this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446195
Just stopped in to sprint store and they said the had no clue what this was and nothing like that would be coming to sprint.sprint always seems to be the last to know anything..plus the last to get anything new in....
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In case you didn't know, Sprint store employees are NOT allowed to tell customers about upcoming events or promotions.
Trust me, they do know about such things.
I know this because a sprint store employee told me that they do know about upcoming promotional events.

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Coming from this thread,
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In case you didn't know, Sprint store employees are NOT allowed to tell customers about upcoming events or promotions.
Trust me, they do know about such things.
I know this because a sprint store employee told me that they do know about upcoming promotional events.
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Especially since most times they have to be trained on certain devices and promotions..

Nexus 5 will be sprint compatible.... we will find out in a few weeks!

sure is im getting my nexus 5 in 2-3 day!!! its on its way to my now!! ill miss my s4 but hello nexus 5!! soooo much more development.. perfect phone for me seeing im a crack flasher.. there will be so many rims and kernels... heaven!!!

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sure is im getting my nexus 5 in 2-3 day!!! its on its way to my now!! ill miss my s4 but hello nexus 5!! soooo much more development.. perfect phone for me seeing im a crack flasher.. there will be so many rims and kernels... heaven!!!
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I'm not gonna ruin the Nexus 5, by putting it on Sprints network. Hello T-Mobile!

I work at Sprint and I play with all the new devices when they launch. First impression of the Nexus was it felt cheap. And the fact that it's made by LG this time just backs up the why the quality somewhat trash. The obnoxious circle phone speaker in the front was hideous. I thought it was a front facing speaker like HTC's One but it was an in call speaker. It looked like a knock off of all the phones that are out.
I did enjoy playing with the camera. A lot of new stuff that I want sure how to use yet but first impression was that the camera would be 1 of the key selling points for the phone. I had mixed feelings about the gigantic app icons but like I said it was my first impression so they could grow on me.
The feel of the phone in terms of performance wasn't bad. My GS4 is smoother with scrolling but I am stock rooted with stock kernel and debloated so Im pretty sure once this phone is too then it will be smooth as well. I did like how apps would open very quickly. Not much faster than my GS4 but was noticeable.
Honestly the phones performance isn't something to debate about because it is very resposnsive. And the Google Now feature is dope as well, but the feel and look of the phone just felt cheap like it was made from recycled parts or something. Just my 2 cents. The phone is a decent LG quality phone. If you like LG then go for it.
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I'm not gonna ruin the Nexus 5, by putting it on Sprints network. Hello T-Mobile!
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TMobile doesn't have real LTE....
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TMobile doesn't have real LTE....
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Neither does Sprint. How is something "real" if it doesn't tangibly exist in any measurable form in most places.
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Neither does Sprint. How is something "real" if it doesn't tangibly exist in any measurable form in most places.
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TMobile has 3G HSPA + which isn't actually any form of 4G but they advertise it as that. Your LTE capable phone isn't even on a real 4G or 4G LTE network.
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TMobile has 3G HSPA + which isn't actually any form of 4G but they advertise it as that. Your LTE capable phone isn't even on a real 4G or 4G LTE network.
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So I had been toying with the idea of going from S4 -> N5, and went to the sprint store to play with N5. It does feel snappy. Just like when I install a fresh new rom on S4. Though Google Now fc on me on the N5.
Next I loaded up the same web page on both devices and noted that the page pan was not that significantly different.
Not convinced quite yet, but I may change my mind later. Still waiting for the ipad air to arrive which would keep me entertained for a while.

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Because it is still being launched?
I feel like a lot of Sprint people expect Sprint to have LTE up in their back yard instantly. People always compare their LTE to Sprint. Verizon had a two year start on LTE deployment than Sprint since they chose to go with Wimax.
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TMobile doesn't have real LTE....
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T-Mobile absolutely has LTE. And theirs is at least 20 times faster than Sprint's LTE here. I'm on Sprint LTE at home, and I just got 124 kbps down and 300 up. That's actually pretty good for their LTE! And it's been launched here for a few months. I guess that's what you get when you launch LTE handsets before you even have an LTE network to use them on anywhere in the nation. Once it's turned on, there are thousands of handsets sucking down the bandwidth as soon as it's turned on. Would probably help if they weren't running each tower off of one single Comcast cable modem...
Obviously that last part isn't true. but they shouldn't be selling or having LTE service here, if 124 kbps is there idea of LTE.

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T-Mobile absolutely has LTE. And theirs is at least 20 times faster than Sprint's LTE here. I'm on Sprint LTE at home, and I just got 124 kbps down and 300 up. That's actually pretty good for their LTE! And it's been launched here for a few months. I guess that's what you get when you launch LTE handsets before you even have an LTE network to use them on anywhere in the nation. Once it's turned on, there are thousands of handsets sucking down the bandwidth as soon as it's turned on. Would probably help if they weren't running each tower off of one single Comcast cable modem...
Obviously that last part isn't true. but they shouldn't be selling or having LTE service here, if 124 kbps is there idea of LTE.
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Just an issue with that area. I consistently get 500kbps at my work, come home and get over 30mbps. The network is building, give it time.
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imneveral0ne said:
T-Mobile absolutely has LTE. And theirs is at least 20 times faster than Sprint's LTE here. I'm on Sprint LTE at home, and I just got 124 kbps down and 300 up. That's actually pretty good for their LTE! And it's been launched here for a few months. I guess that's what you get when you launch LTE handsets before you even have an LTE network to use them on anywhere in the nation. Once it's turned on, there are thousands of handsets sucking down the bandwidth as soon as it's turned on. Would probably help if they weren't running each tower off of one single Comcast cable modem...
Obviously that last part isn't true. but they shouldn't be selling or having LTE service here, if 124 kbps is there idea of LTE.
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Than LTE hasn't been officially riled out yet in your area.it well get better. I typically get between 15-30mbs down and 10-15mbs up on Sprint LTE and my area is only 75 percent rolled out. When I first started getting LTE in my area I would only get 1-2mbs down. Hang in there and it will get better. Also, all carriers sell their LTE phones before the network is built out.
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*Useless Complaint to Follow*
Why, oh WHY did Kies pull the mja update! *Sniff* My one play day a week I get and it's not there..
/complaint - Off to dev section I go..

problem solved !!

Wrong topic sorry

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Loved the phone hated the Network....

Just wanted to say my farewells to the Sprint forum. I've been a loyal Sprint customer for 12 years but I just couldn't take the waiting anymore. My area still doesnt have LTE fully deployed and the speeds weren't that fast in the areas where it was. I had the M7 with Sprint and loved it whenever it was connected to WiFi! With Spark being 1-2 years away from my area I just couldn't wait for Sprint any longer. Got the M8 and jumped over to T-Mobile and now i'm living in the fast lane! Now granted one of these test was in the middle of the night I still average 30-50Mbps during the day!! Sprints LTE would barely crack 7-8Mbps!! Love the device!!
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Good for you!
This is what I get on Sprint:
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rhe12 said:
Good for you!
This is what I get on Sprint:
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Besides speed...What I love about Sprint is the low ping times!
I'm always in the 30-40ms pings where I live
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Well, development for this carrier for this phone is minimal.
Look at the other carriers development threads. Sprint is dying off, and it's a sad thing to see.
Verizon rules SC. Sprint all but abandoned this state when it came to service, and now everyone I know is on Verizon.
Not sure how long I'm going to stay on. Verizon has the best service by far here.

Well, development for this carrier for this phone is minimal.
Look at the other carriers development threads. Sprint is dying off, and it's a sad thing to see.
Verizon rules SC. Sprint all but abandoned this state when it came to service, and now everyone I know is on Verizon.
Not sure how long I'm going to stay on. Verizon has the best service by far here.
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And you pay for that, much rather pay less than you, and on top that have unlimited data.
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kris54241 said:
And you pay for that, much rather pay less than you, and on top that have unlimited data.
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I rarely ever use data anyway. I'm on Wi-Fi no matter where I go. There is nothing so dang important I can't wait to read about it on my HTPC in my living room.
Data is basically for emergencies.

mcwups1 said:
I rarely ever use data anyway. I'm on Wi-Fi no matter where I go. There is nothing so dang important I can't wait to read about it on my HTPC in my living room.
Data is basically for emergencies.
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You might be better off with a prepaid phone then
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mcwups1 said:
Well, development for this carrier for this phone is minimal.
Look at the other carriers development threads. Sprint is dying off, and it's a sad thing to see.
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Kind of an unfair thing to say about the development for this phone. There are several projects being worked on and your going to see a lot more to come. The phone is still really new and everything doesn't drop at once.

dazednconfused said:
Kind of an unfair thing to say about the development for this phone. There are several projects being worked on and your going to see a lot more to come. The phone is still really new and everything doesn't drop at once.
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I believe it to be quite fair.
The phone is getting tons of development, just not on Sprint. However, it is new, and many may still be enjoying their EVO's and M7's, or can't upgrade yet, but with the dropping of the S5, it's even more difficult.
In no way an I knocking our dev's either. That almost seems to be the implication. I'm merely saying that Sprint is lagging behind the other carriers, especially if you take into account the General thread, which has nothing for us.
The quick smirky answer is, "learn to dev then", but I don't have the knowledge, so I donate when I can, to support.
Again, the point is, Sprint is losing in a lot of ways, and the OP has the main reason why.
Sprint has been lax with their customers.

Well op I can't really blame you for leaving. Only reason I haven't left I'm on Sero plan and I know what Sprints intentions are however it seems like nothing ever gets done. My home tower has been borked for almost a year since last July. Spark looks very promising but I am also very tired of waiting. I am gonna wait it out especially since Softbank is now backing Sprint they have deep pockets. Coming up on 2015 and pulling struggling to pull 0.5 megabits is pathetic. I'm gonna hold out for it but yea it's tough.

For one Sprint has the lowest number of subscribers than ATT and VZ so that's kinda expected naturally.... But looking at the other carrier specific development sections sprints isn't lagging much behind if at all..... The main M8 section is a different beast though as that has a bunch of world carriers basically lumped in one and always has more activity compared to the US carrier section...
Of note things like kernels and such will work cross carriers... Often when an item is compatible same file across all versions it's placed only in the main M8 section as dev would only have to maintain and watch 1 thread then....
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rhe12 said:
Good for you!
This is what I get on Sprint:
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Holy crap, do you live in Sprint HQ, right next to the LTE generator thingy?

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Holy crap, do you live in Sprint HQ, right next to the LTE generator thingy?
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LOL no, I can get those numbers at any spot in LA where reception is strong. I think at spots where I get those numbers the RSRP can get in the -60 dBm range.

SPreston2001 said:
Just wanted to say my farewells to the Sprint forum. I've been a loyal Sprint customer for 12 years but I just couldn't take the waiting anymore. My area still doesnt have LTE fully deployed and the speeds weren't that fast in the areas where it was. I had the M7 with Sprint and loved it whenever it was connected to WiFi! With Spark being 1-2 years away from my area I just couldn't wait for Sprint any longer. Got the M8 and jumped over to T-Mobile and now i'm living in the fast lane! Now granted one of these test was in the middle of the night I still average 30-50Mbps during the day!! Sprints LTE would barely crack 7-8Mbps!! Love the device!!
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im with ya OP...This phone was too good to not use properly on Sprint for me too.I took a look at my average data usage per month on Sprint and headed on down to AT&T for 2 phones at $130/month for a 10 gig family shared plan,more than enough for us as we never passed 7.5GB over 12 years..I will come back to Sprint when their build out is complete and if they offer unlimited data still for new customers.

I'm starting to get to the same point. My 3g is atrocious, LTE is basically nonexistent, I constantly drop or miss calls. Could be the phone though. My wife's gs3 doesn't have these issues. Very frustrating.

metalfan78 said:
I'm starting to get to the same point. My 3g is atrocious, LTE is basically nonexistent, I constantly drop or miss calls. Could be the phone though. My wife's gs3 doesn't have these issues. Very frustrating.
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Well it is your phone but not because its defective lol. Its a tri-band device (Spark enabled) so until Sprint launches Spark in your area the phone wont perform very well. Its a network issue and the only thing you can do at the moment is change the phone to CDMA only mode. It will block your LTE but atleast you will get all of your calls and 3G. It has to do with the tri-band phones not being able to to simultaneous voice and data...

Yea, I do realize that, I have it on cdma only. I'm not sure what happened earlier. I was on the phone and I dropped the call 5 times within 10 minutes.

metalfan78 said:
Yea, I do realize that, I have it on cdma only. I'm not sure what happened earlier. I was on the phone and I dropped the call 5 times within 10 minutes.
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Oh lol yeah well dropped calls that's just good ol Sprint service. I really used to like Sprint alot! I just couldn't take the terrible network anymore. Just got my first bill from T-Mobile and it's sitting at $69.
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Nice

To be honest there are only 2 reasons I'm still on Sprint.
1) Unlimited Data, as I go through about 30GB of data a month I NEED truly unlimited and unthrottled data.
2) Verizon tried to f' me over while I was in the Marines and for about a year they screwed my credit rating to hell. I faxed them a copy of my orders showing I was being sent to Japan and told them to put my account on hold. I paid my final Verizon bill and called to verify I didn't owe them anything else and that my phone would be placed on hold. About a year later I get a letter from their legal department demanding ~$500 for early termination and other fees and that it had been reported on my credit rating. So Verizon can go f' themselves, no matter what I'll never do business with them again.