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Hey everyone, love the phone first of all. My problem? Sprint. I used to have sprint, but ended up going to tmobile with the nexus 4. When I decided to get HTC one, it was either pray for online store to have one available and pay $99 + $90 a month, or get one at a local sprint store and pay $50 for service (sero). Ended up transferring to sprint.
Right now, I'm in dc, and I really have pretty deeply data speeds, even on lte it gets maybe 3mbps... Granted, I know that dc market isn't live yet, but still. At the gym I go to, if I'm on lte it works good, but even with full bars it decides to drop down to 3g often, Shi h results in me not even being able to stream a thing... Never those issues on T-Mobile, reason I wanted new phone was to odd issues on nexus 4 and I wasn't sure if it was phone related, or network. A lot of people seemed to have similar problems on nexus though. It'd end up dropping all service, or just poor reception in general. I've heard that tmo variant of the HTC had much better antenna...
Now, I will be moving to Atlanta in 20 days, I know that T-Mobile is pretty good there. I know that sprint used to be terrible there, but how is it now? The lte there is supposed to be at 70% deploymenet, but I'm guessing that's just the downtown area, I'll be living in buckhead. Anybody out in that area that could comment on speeds?
Financially, makes more sense to stick to sprint. $99 for phone + $50 a month vs $99 phone + $90 a month.
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air2k57 said:
Hey everyone, love the phone first of all. My problem? Sprint. I used to have sprint, but ended up going to tmobile with the nexus 4. When I decided to get HTC one, it was either pray for online store to have one available and pay $99 + $90 a month, or get one at a local sprint store and pay $50 for service (sero). Ended up transferring to sprint.
Right now, I'm in dc, and I really have pretty deeply data speeds, even on lte it gets maybe 3mbps... Granted, I know that dc market isn't live yet, but still. At the gym I go to, if I'm on lte it works good, but even with full bars it decides to drop down to 3g often, Shi h results in me not even being able to stream a thing... Never those issues on T-Mobile, reason I wanted new phone was to odd issues on nexus 4 and I wasn't sure if it was phone related, or network. A lot of people seemed to have similar problems on nexus though. It'd end up dropping all service, or just poor reception in general. I've heard that tmo variant of the HTC had much better antenna...
Now, I will be moving to Atlanta in 20 days, I know that T-Mobile is pretty good there. I know that sprint used to be terrible there, but how is it now? The lte there is supposed to be at 70% deploymenet, but I'm guessing that's just the downtown area, I'll be living in buckhead. Anybody out in that area that could comment on speeds?
Financially, makes more sense to stick to sprint. $99 for phone + $50 a month vs $99 phone + $90 a month.
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If you want information on where you can find LTE, check www.sensorly.com or get their app from the Google Play Store. That's going to tell you where the LTE is where you're going.

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If you want information on where you can find LTE, check www.sensorly.com or get their app from the Google Play Store. That's going to tell you where the LTE is where you're going.
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Tried that, doesnf really give too accurate of info, I've used it before for sprint and it gave me really good coverage info, yet, 3g was still obysmal (200kbps).
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air2k57 said:
Tried that, doesnf really give too accurate of info, I've used it before for sprint and it gave me really good coverage info, yet, 3g was still obysmal (200kbps).
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If you're so concerned, go to Atlanta and test it. You can also check the thread in this particular forum where users are posting screenshots of their speedtests as well as general locations.

My friend had an Evo and moved to Atlanta. Fast forward to now, he switched to Verizon lol.
ps I will gladly take your HTC One off of your hands

I will say this, I live in atlanta and I get lte everywhere including all surrounding counties and cities outside the perimeter. If you are really moving to atlanta you should definitely stay with sprint, things have improved exponentially over the last year or so. Early last year I was this close to switching to at&t and decided to give sprint one more damn year and it turned out to be a pretty good decision. Now sprint might still be garbage in other places but in atlanta its pretty damn good.

themuffinman said:
I will say this, I live in atlanta and I get lte everywhere including all surrounding counties and cities outside the perimeter. If you are really moving to atlanta you should definitely stay with sprint, things have improved exponentially over the last year or so. Early last year I was this close to switching to at&t and decided to give sprint one more damn year and it turned out to be a pretty good decision. Now sprint might still be garbage in other places but in atlanta its pretty damn good.
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Nice! What speeds do you usually get?
Ans to the person who said just go there... I am in June, but it doesn't make sense to go now just to see how it is, and if I wait till June I will be outside of my 14 day.
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air2k57 said:
Nice! What speeds do you usually get?
Ans to the person who said just go there... I am in June, but it doesn't make sense to go now just to see how it is, and if I wait till June I will be outside of my 14 day.
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For the most part I would say that I average about 15megs down with very low pings. Of course its not perfect, at times you will have those moments when you hit 30+megs and other times you will have those moments where you can barely hit 5megs but that doesn't happen very often at all.

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For the most part I would say that I average about 15megs down with very low pings. Of course its not perfect, at times you will have those moments when you hit 30+megs and other times you will have those moments where you can barely hit 5megs but that doesn't happen very often at all.
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Thank you for the info. Would you say it is more consistent than T-Mobile there?
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air2k57 said:
Thank you for the info. Would you say it is more consistent than T-Mobile there?
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Well a few of my friends have tmobile service and for the most part hspa+ is pretty fast as well but ping times are no where near what you can get compared to lte. There aren't many places where I would actually recommend sprint service but atlanta is definitely one of those places where I would recommend sprint.

also if you're looking to keep tabs on the LTE network for sprint, i'd recommend S4gru, its a blog as well you can follow peoples comments and check out what areas are spotting LTE. Just a warning it gets quite addictive i check like once a day for orlando lol

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also if you're looking to keep tabs on the LTE network for sprint, i'd recommend S4gru, its a blog as well you can follow peoples comments and check out what areas are spotting LTE. Just a warning it gets quite addictive i check like once a day for orlando lol
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Haha yea, that's partially why I decided to give it a shot, the fact that s4guru listed Atlanta at such high completion. I just don't know, I like the idea of what sprint is doing, they should have very good lte coverage and good building penetration in the future. Although, sadly, a lot of what sprint said over the past few years sounded great on paper, yet, failed in reality.
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Sprint: The Comeback

So, as many of you know, Sprint took a huge fall from 2004-2006. They have since to recover fully to the mobile giant they once were, but as of recently, some monumental changes have been made. Many analysts even believe 2014 will be the year for Sprint. Lately, Network Vision has made a huge impact on many customers (including myself) with 4G LTE and upgraded 3G, the iDen (push-to-talk) network has been shut down for good, Sprint acquired ClearWire, and SoftBank invested in Sprint. They're even dropping the old "Sprint Nextel" name and switching to "Sprint Corp." as soon as the deal goes through.
So what do you guys think? With the owner of SoftBank, Masayoshi Son, willing to throw billions into Sprint for network upgrades, is Sprint making a comeback? Or should we just ignore all that and jump ship to AT&T or Verizon?
I'm fairly optimistic about Sprint myself, so I'd really like to hear some other opinions.

I think Sprint is about to make some power moves and some big ones.a friend of mine in Carolina has metro pcs phone service and when he pulls his battery out of his phone it says Sprint and has a Sprint logo and whenever Sprint makes a move so do they. They rolled out 4g lte at the same time, they have the same equipment, Sprint branding hidden throughout metro pcs devices something is brewing lol....
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I hope sprint doesnt forget about us who stuck with them. If sprint became number one you can bet they will be doing the same rates as verizon. 4g lte with unlimited is good but tmobile has the same and is catching up in the 4g lte department. Plus tmobile is gsm. Always a plus.
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Sprint in Indiana is 100x better since network vision upgrades started. Let's just hope softbank can fund sprint enough to cover all the roaming areas.
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miketucky350 said:
Sprint in Indiana is 100x better since network vision upgrades started. Let's just hope softbank can fund sprint enough to cover all the roaming areas.
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With the Nextel Spectrum now available to Sprint's disposal, the sub-1 Ghz spectrum (the lower the frequency, the more coverage/wall penetration is has.) will help Sprint's national footprint by a longshot. This is only possible now because Sprint shut down the Nextel network on June 30th. Not only that, but for the crowded areas, Sprint has Clearwire with their enormous Spectrum holding, that they literally have enough spectrum to offer 100mbps speeds on their towers. This is completely up to Softbank and their plans, but from what I hear, Softbank is only going to make Sprint better for its consumers, and the duopoly in a few years will be hurting.

True. Killing nextel is huge. It will come together in the next 2 years. To bad our phones only support lte 1900. I'm happy to see them in the right direction. I'm sticking with them.
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dreDrennon1 said:
I think Sprint is about to make some power moves and some big ones.a friend of mine in Carolina has metro pcs phone service and when he pulls his battery out of his phone it says Sprint and has a Sprint logo and whenever Sprint makes a move so do they. They rolled out 4g lte at the same time, they have the same equipment, Sprint branding hidden throughout metro pcs devices something is brewing lol....
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that your friend had a sprint device metroflashed to metropcs, thats all that means.

shabbypenguin said:
that your friend had a sprint device metroflashed to metropcs, thats all that means.
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No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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dreDrennon1 said:
No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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i dont know what kind of store your friend bought it at but i assure you metropcs has never sold a sprint like device. i have been working on their phone since the sgs1 days and they had a crappy knock off of the epic called the indulge 4g.

dreDrennon1 said:
No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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Because metro stores can by a lot of Sprint phones from a distributor , brand new in the box.
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shabbypenguin said:
i dont know what kind of store your friend bought it at but i assure you metropcs has never sold a sprint like device. i have been working on their phone since the sgs1 days and they had a crappy knock off of the epic called the indulge 4g.
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I don't know what kind of store it was but he called to ask me about a possible merger between the 2 companies when he saw it to see if I had heard anything because I worked for Sprint at the time I told I had not heard anything and he said his phone was branded Sprint with the Sprint logo in the battery compartment but the outside was metro pcs branding the phone he had at the time was their version of the original Motorola photon
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daniel4653 said:
Because metro stores can by a lot of Sprint phones from a distributor , brand new in the box.
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no corporate store would do that, they would rather try to sell you the phones metropcs actually has, they stopped the metroflash service for that reason
there was no version of the photon for them, us cellular had the electrify, but metropcs has NEVER had a moto android device
edit: turns out they did have a few metro phones here was their last one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXqXijDNvlU

I've seen plenty do that. I have brothers who are distributors and sell a couple dozen phones at a time to cricket and metro.
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shabbypenguin said:
no corporate store would do that, they would rather try to sell you the phones metropcs actually has, they stopped the metroflash service for that reason
there was no version of the photon for them, us cellular had the electrify, but metropcs has NEVER had a moto device
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Yeah that is the phone so it was us cellular my bad I got the little guys mixed up they both might as well be straight talk as far as I am concerned lol I don't have either one of them here in Nashville so I don't know what metro flash is bro Lol we have Sprint, Verizon, at&t, t mobile, cricket and simple mobile oh and of course straight talk thanks to Wal-Mart
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Either way it was a small company in a weak Sprint coverage area with Sprint branding inside the phone battery compartment
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dreDrennon1 said:
Yeah that is the phone so it was us cellular my bad I got the little guys mixed up they both might as well be straight talk as far as I am concerned lol I don't have either one of them here in Nashville so I don't know what metro flash is bro Lol we have Sprint, Verizon, at&t, t mobile, cricket and simple mobile oh and of course straight talk thanks to Wal-Mart
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not a problem. and since the reverse merger with tmobile is almost done, id suggest you keep your eye on metropcs. they had the first lte phone, first lte service in america, merged with tmobile to become the 4th largest carrier in america. now they have an agressive 2 year plan to shut off cdma and switch all of their prepaid customers to gsm within that time. as it turns out 60%+ of metro's customer upgrade their devices at least once a year. it will be interesting to see how much metro's cheap plans will end up cutting a hole into tmobile's famous 30 dollar plan.

shabbypenguin said:
not a problem. and since the reverse merger with tmobile is almost done, id suggest you keep your eye on metropcs. they had the first lte phone, first lte service in america, merged with tmobile to become the 4th largest carrier in america. now they have an agressive 2 year plan to shut off cdma and switch all of their prepaid customers to gsm within that time. as it turns out 60%+ of metro's customer upgrade their devices at least once a year. it will be interesting to see how much metro's cheap plans will end up cutting a hole into tmobile's famous 30 dollar plan.
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We will see what happens I mean you merge with another company to be number 4 that doesn't sound like you are trying to make power moves to me that really won't affect us in our market because T-Mobile is not holding their own very well around here because their coverage sucks here for every 10 stores of the big 3 you see maybe 2 T-Mobile stores and all 4 have call centers here when I worked at Verizon when we had our quarterly meetings they wouldn't even mention T-Mobile if they did it was because they were the punch line of a joke lol
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I've been with Sprint for the first time since May of last year and I'm excited for them and what they have in store for us. I hope they bring 4G LTE to more areas quicker.

dreDrennon1 said:
We will see what happens I mean you merge with another company to be number 4 that doesn't sound like you are trying to make power moves to me that really won't affect us in our market because T-Mobile is not holding their own very well around here because their coverage sucks here for every 10 stores of the big 3 you see maybe 2 T-Mobile stores and all 4 have call centers here when I worked at Verizon when we had our quarterly meetings they wouldn't even mention T-Mobile if they did it was because they were the punch line of a joke lol
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Most people just consider T-Mobile just a regional carrier, specific to the west coast. So on the coverage end I don't think Sprint, being the nationwide carrier that they are, has anything to worry about. All I can see is that if Sprint doesn't pick up momentum on the west coast with LTE that T-Mobile could catch up. Right now the only real place that T-Mobile has LTE that Sprint doesn't yet is in Arizona, but Sprint is rolling it out now. Also, now with the SoftBank investment, Sprint has much more capital for a long term LTE and LTE-Advanced deployment. So with all these recent happenings, I see no reason to switch carriers :laugh:

Time will tell...After 14 years with Sprint I keep thinking about getting T-Mobile. I like not having to pay full price on phones though. Heck i make money. LoL. I have 5 lines so always have a upgrade to use.
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With SoftBank and Clear, Sprint has far too much potential for any of us to start being hasty. If your with the girl when she's fat...don't leave when she starts going to the gym.
They only problem they have is their roaming agreement. They have never solidified a good contract for it. The New plans even limit your roaming data and voice, it's they're only down fall imo. But when the build is near complete, that won't be an issue.
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Thoughts on Download Booster Being Disabled?

Today I posted this on G+:
https://plus.google.com/104522596589171041648/posts/JfBDxdTAjSR
I'd be willing to place down a wager that the +Verizon Wireless and +AT&T variants of the Galaxy S5 will have the download booster feature disabled.
I can't imagine those companies taking very kindly to the idea of using WiFi and LTE simultaneously, just due to the fear of pissed off customers going over their data plans because they had no idea what they were doing. Plus it has the real potential to create even more usage on their networks, which most bigger carriers don't seem to like.
Considering how providers like to push people to use WiFi whenever possible (doesn't ever carrier have a WiFi finder app these days?), yeah, I don't see the big boys taking too kindly to the download booster. I guess we'll find out in a little under 2 weeks.
If my hunch is correct, I'd highly suggest that anyone owning affected variants scream and complain to anyone who will listen. This will hopefully lead to the guilty carriers releasing statements saying "The exclusion of the download booster functionality was an oversight and not intentional. We will fix this issue in a future software update."
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It better not be. But yes, I can see them doing that. I say, it's my data, let me use it anyway I want to.
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Well AT&T's sure doesn't mention download booster anywhere on the S5 page. I swear to God if they disabled it I will raise hell. Such a great feature too.
But these larger carriers have to much control. They really shouldn't be able to touch any device or modify it. Only Samsung should do that. If T-Mobile didn't have such spotty coverage by me, I'd be on them in a second ordering my S5 instead of ATT.
Ordering the non carrier version of the S5 isn't an option either because it so conveniently doesn't support bands 4 and 17. WOW

That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.

I could be wrong but i would imagine there is a setting you can disable to prevent yourself from constantly using both. So it should be in the purchasers hands hence no reason for AT&T to disable it to prevent data overages. That being said, AT&T is a company that likes to piss everyone off and remove features that are major selling points just because they can.

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I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.
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I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8

MattMJB0188 said:
I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8
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I preordered an AT&T GS5 as well. I don't think it will replace my Z Ultra GPE as a daily driver, but I'm definitely going to have fun with it.
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That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.

MattMJB0188 said:
Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.
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I ordered a white one too. The GS4 GPE only comes in white so I'm used to white Galaxy devices now. haha
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This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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I am hoping that there is a way to disable it, as I really don't need it.
As it turns out, I changed my mind.. Cancelled my order and ordered HTC One M8

http://techknowzone.com/how-to-use-download-booster-in-samsung-galaxy-s5/
According to that article, not only can you disable it, but it actually doesnt impact normal web browsing or downloading small files. All the more reason AT&T has no excuse to disable it. For the average consumer, you wont got over your data simply because its on. If you arent downloading files over 30mb, it does nothing.

I'm sure the feature isn't there on the store models. Maybe because no sim card or active data connection
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.

daraj said:
Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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oldblue910 said:
Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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yes its out. also got some pics

daraj said:
yes its out. also got some pics
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Wow... Well hopefully the floor model isn't running final software and there will be an OTA before launch. I'm not going to freak out just yet.
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daraj said:
Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.

MattMJB0188 said:
If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.
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I'm going to head over to the biggest corporate store in the area tonight and see if they have a GS5 on the floor. If so, I'll try to verify it. If it's true, you can bet your ass I'm canceling my preorder.
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Some pics from the store today
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Some Spark Goodness...

No not a spark update but I got band 26. I know there is a speed forum but since Spark is a different tech I wanted a new topic.
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How is it Sprint can be using so many bands together to get more speed and yet it's still slower than Tmo's single band? Oh right, it's Sprint...
I miss the old Sprint. I was their biggest fanboy for a good long while there before their 3g became unusable and their only 4g was wimax which didn't make it past trees or a window at anything more than a single bar. I understand the high frequency attenuation, but the lack of 3g backhaul is ridiculous and so is their piecemeal 4g network. I feel sorry for anyone still using them during this "transition". If this was a store under construction, they'd be better off closing for until they're complete, because the customer experience is so bad... I hope they make good use of their prime Nextel 800mhz spectrum, they could make a great network with it, it's totally possible. But I'll believe it when I see it.
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Actually Sprint has improved a lot here in the Metro Detroit area I am connected to LTE everywhere I travel in southeast Michigan. It has been a painful journey these last 3 years but I see the light lol and we haven't been officially announced so I see nothing but good things at least for me from Sprint by the end of the summer it should be full throttle. Not to mention we have no data caps and I only pay $45 for unlimited everything. Framily Plan
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What app are you using to see all those stats?
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HarryCooter said:
What app are you using to see all those stats?
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Pretty sure he's using this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cellmapper.nexus5fieldtestmode

I have had up to 48MB/sec download speed here on LTE.

dandan2980 said:
Actually Sprint has improved a lot here in the Metro Detroit area I am connected to LTE everywhere I travel in southeast Michigan. It has been a painful journey these last 3 years but I see the light lol and we haven't been officially announced so I see nothing but good things at least for me from Sprint by the end of the summer it should be full throttle. Not to mention we have no data caps and I only pay $45 for unlimited everything. Framily Plan
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yep, I can attest to that. Orlando was launched about a month ago, and voice and data coverage couldn't be better. Before I could barely get WiMax, but I get good LTE speeds at my residence and most of my commute through the city. CDMA 800 has already started rolling out in my area, as well as Spark

I just got the official text message from Sprint a few days ago announcing the new spark network here in Minneapolis. Now the wait for Google to update and enable the radios needed to receive the new LTE bands.
Sprint network has improved quite a bit in the last 6 months. I an get LTE pretty much everywhere in the metro and suburbs now. I will admit i was almost ready to pay the ETF and jump ship 6 months ago...
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It is better. That was just band 26, not spark spark technically.
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compuw22c said:
How is it Sprint can be using so many bands together to get more speed and yet it's still slower than Tmo's single band? Oh right, it's Sprint...
I miss the old Sprint. I was their biggest fanboy for a good long while there before their 3g became unusable and their only 4g was wimax which didn't make it past trees or a window at anything more than a single bar. I understand the high frequency attenuation, but the lack of 3g backhaul is ridiculous and so is their piecemeal 4g network. I feel sorry for anyone still using them during this "transition". If this was a store under construction, they'd be better off closing for until they're complete, because the customer experience is so bad... I hope they make good use of their prime Nextel 800mhz spectrum, they could make a great network with it, it's totally possible. But I'll believe it when I see it.
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Cause its not currently using all three at once... Enabling all three bands is great but until we get a radio that can negotiate and use all 3 at once your speeds won't be that awesome. I get band 26 here in Houston sometimes and its certainly better than b25 cause of congestion and I have gotten band 41 here too where I got speeds of 70+Mbps (much faster than tmo) but the problem is I until the update we only get one band at once hence the odd speed results.
I'll edit later once I find my spark Houston speed thread I started months ago.
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When sprint updates so our n5s can use the spark network would it just be in a prl/profile update or an OTA type thing? Will I be on board if I'm running a custom ROM, or will I have to go back to stock for it?
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deakelem said:
Cause its not currently using all three at once... Enabling all three bands is great but until we get a radio that can negotiate and use all 3 at once your speeds won't be that awesome. I get band 26 here in Houston sometimes and its certainly better than b25 cause of congestion and I have gotten band 41 here too where I got speeds of 70+Mbps (much faster than tmo) but the problem is I until the update we only get one band at once hence the odd speed results.
I'll edit later once I find my spark Houston speed thread I started months ago.
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Spark doesn't allow you to receive all 3 bands at once. The technology will automatically switch between the 3 bands, selecting the fastest band and strongest signal available for where you are.
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r3volution327 said:
When sprint updates so our n5s can use the spark network would it just be in a prl/profile update or an OTA type thing? Will I be on board if I'm running a custom ROM, or will I have to go back to stock for it?
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It will be an update to Android, released by Google.

jasonamd said:
Spark doesn't allow you to receive all 3 bands at once. The technology will automatically switch between the 3 bands, selecting the fastest band and strongest signal available for where you are.
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good info thanks
even if you use the .15 modem and are lucky enough to find a 41b tower like i did until we get the updated modem and corresponding software the handoffs between the two will be awful like they are now, and even if you change band priority b25 always seems to take over eventually regardless of the other bands strength.

I can't wait for the update.
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I can't wait for the update.
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Been waiting since i first got this phone. Don't see it ever coming to the DC area. Since data and voice service is so horrible here, we may be getting close to the transition.

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When sprint updates so our n5s can use the spark network would it just be in a prl/profile update or an OTA type thing? Will I be on board if I'm running a custom ROM, or will I have to go back to stock for it?
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Expect a new radio.. This will be the brains behind the band switching but I wouldn't be surprised if there are also elements within the rom that will help with spark too.
So yes at least flash the new radio with your custom ROM and see if there is any changes if not wait till your custom ROM of choice updates to 4.4.3 which won't take long lol
A prl and profile can only really enable the bands but a new radio needs to be in place to help with the handoffs

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Expect a new radio.. This will be the brains behind the band switching but I wouldn't be surprised if there are also elements within the rom that will help with spark too.
So yes at least flash the new radio with your custom ROM and see if there is any changes if not wait till your custom ROM of choice updates to 4.4.3 which won't take long lol
A prl and profile can only really enable the bands but a new radio needs to be in place to help with the handoffs
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MrObvious, where about are you getting Band 26 in Wichita? I'll be there this weekend and want to track some GCI/PCI

Wish the n5 supported 2600mhz LTE
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MrObvious, where about are you getting Band 26 in Wichita? I'll be there this weekend and want to track some GCI/PCI
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Primarily over the east side but I went all down 96 and 135 from Rock and it held band 26.
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Wish the n5 supported 2600mhz LTE
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It does. Some people have reported band 41. The towers love to put out 26 (probably because it's lower frequency) and man is it strong! I haven't seen band 41 yet but would love to see a Speedtest on it. Some have reported on s4gru and I think HoFo.

I've gotten plenty of Band41 LTE on my Nexus 5 on the .15 radio. Here is my best speedtest so far:

Loved the phone hated the Network....

Just wanted to say my farewells to the Sprint forum. I've been a loyal Sprint customer for 12 years but I just couldn't take the waiting anymore. My area still doesnt have LTE fully deployed and the speeds weren't that fast in the areas where it was. I had the M7 with Sprint and loved it whenever it was connected to WiFi! With Spark being 1-2 years away from my area I just couldn't wait for Sprint any longer. Got the M8 and jumped over to T-Mobile and now i'm living in the fast lane! Now granted one of these test was in the middle of the night I still average 30-50Mbps during the day!! Sprints LTE would barely crack 7-8Mbps!! Love the device!!
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Good for you!
This is what I get on Sprint:
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rhe12 said:
Good for you!
This is what I get on Sprint:
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Besides speed...What I love about Sprint is the low ping times!
I'm always in the 30-40ms pings where I live
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Well, development for this carrier for this phone is minimal.
Look at the other carriers development threads. Sprint is dying off, and it's a sad thing to see.
Verizon rules SC. Sprint all but abandoned this state when it came to service, and now everyone I know is on Verizon.
Not sure how long I'm going to stay on. Verizon has the best service by far here.

Well, development for this carrier for this phone is minimal.
Look at the other carriers development threads. Sprint is dying off, and it's a sad thing to see.
Verizon rules SC. Sprint all but abandoned this state when it came to service, and now everyone I know is on Verizon.
Not sure how long I'm going to stay on. Verizon has the best service by far here.
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And you pay for that, much rather pay less than you, and on top that have unlimited data.
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kris54241 said:
And you pay for that, much rather pay less than you, and on top that have unlimited data.
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I rarely ever use data anyway. I'm on Wi-Fi no matter where I go. There is nothing so dang important I can't wait to read about it on my HTPC in my living room.
Data is basically for emergencies.

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I rarely ever use data anyway. I'm on Wi-Fi no matter where I go. There is nothing so dang important I can't wait to read about it on my HTPC in my living room.
Data is basically for emergencies.
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You might be better off with a prepaid phone then
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Well, development for this carrier for this phone is minimal.
Look at the other carriers development threads. Sprint is dying off, and it's a sad thing to see.
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Kind of an unfair thing to say about the development for this phone. There are several projects being worked on and your going to see a lot more to come. The phone is still really new and everything doesn't drop at once.

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Kind of an unfair thing to say about the development for this phone. There are several projects being worked on and your going to see a lot more to come. The phone is still really new and everything doesn't drop at once.
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I believe it to be quite fair.
The phone is getting tons of development, just not on Sprint. However, it is new, and many may still be enjoying their EVO's and M7's, or can't upgrade yet, but with the dropping of the S5, it's even more difficult.
In no way an I knocking our dev's either. That almost seems to be the implication. I'm merely saying that Sprint is lagging behind the other carriers, especially if you take into account the General thread, which has nothing for us.
The quick smirky answer is, "learn to dev then", but I don't have the knowledge, so I donate when I can, to support.
Again, the point is, Sprint is losing in a lot of ways, and the OP has the main reason why.
Sprint has been lax with their customers.

Well op I can't really blame you for leaving. Only reason I haven't left I'm on Sero plan and I know what Sprints intentions are however it seems like nothing ever gets done. My home tower has been borked for almost a year since last July. Spark looks very promising but I am also very tired of waiting. I am gonna wait it out especially since Softbank is now backing Sprint they have deep pockets. Coming up on 2015 and pulling struggling to pull 0.5 megabits is pathetic. I'm gonna hold out for it but yea it's tough.

For one Sprint has the lowest number of subscribers than ATT and VZ so that's kinda expected naturally.... But looking at the other carrier specific development sections sprints isn't lagging much behind if at all..... The main M8 section is a different beast though as that has a bunch of world carriers basically lumped in one and always has more activity compared to the US carrier section...
Of note things like kernels and such will work cross carriers... Often when an item is compatible same file across all versions it's placed only in the main M8 section as dev would only have to maintain and watch 1 thread then....
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Good for you!
This is what I get on Sprint:
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Holy crap, do you live in Sprint HQ, right next to the LTE generator thingy?

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Holy crap, do you live in Sprint HQ, right next to the LTE generator thingy?
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LOL no, I can get those numbers at any spot in LA where reception is strong. I think at spots where I get those numbers the RSRP can get in the -60 dBm range.

SPreston2001 said:
Just wanted to say my farewells to the Sprint forum. I've been a loyal Sprint customer for 12 years but I just couldn't take the waiting anymore. My area still doesnt have LTE fully deployed and the speeds weren't that fast in the areas where it was. I had the M7 with Sprint and loved it whenever it was connected to WiFi! With Spark being 1-2 years away from my area I just couldn't wait for Sprint any longer. Got the M8 and jumped over to T-Mobile and now i'm living in the fast lane! Now granted one of these test was in the middle of the night I still average 30-50Mbps during the day!! Sprints LTE would barely crack 7-8Mbps!! Love the device!!
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im with ya OP...This phone was too good to not use properly on Sprint for me too.I took a look at my average data usage per month on Sprint and headed on down to AT&T for 2 phones at $130/month for a 10 gig family shared plan,more than enough for us as we never passed 7.5GB over 12 years..I will come back to Sprint when their build out is complete and if they offer unlimited data still for new customers.

I'm starting to get to the same point. My 3g is atrocious, LTE is basically nonexistent, I constantly drop or miss calls. Could be the phone though. My wife's gs3 doesn't have these issues. Very frustrating.

metalfan78 said:
I'm starting to get to the same point. My 3g is atrocious, LTE is basically nonexistent, I constantly drop or miss calls. Could be the phone though. My wife's gs3 doesn't have these issues. Very frustrating.
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Well it is your phone but not because its defective lol. Its a tri-band device (Spark enabled) so until Sprint launches Spark in your area the phone wont perform very well. Its a network issue and the only thing you can do at the moment is change the phone to CDMA only mode. It will block your LTE but atleast you will get all of your calls and 3G. It has to do with the tri-band phones not being able to to simultaneous voice and data...

Yea, I do realize that, I have it on cdma only. I'm not sure what happened earlier. I was on the phone and I dropped the call 5 times within 10 minutes.

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Yea, I do realize that, I have it on cdma only. I'm not sure what happened earlier. I was on the phone and I dropped the call 5 times within 10 minutes.
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Oh lol yeah well dropped calls that's just good ol Sprint service. I really used to like Sprint alot! I just couldn't take the terrible network anymore. Just got my first bill from T-Mobile and it's sitting at $69.
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Nice

To be honest there are only 2 reasons I'm still on Sprint.
1) Unlimited Data, as I go through about 30GB of data a month I NEED truly unlimited and unthrottled data.
2) Verizon tried to f' me over while I was in the Marines and for about a year they screwed my credit rating to hell. I faxed them a copy of my orders showing I was being sent to Japan and told them to put my account on hold. I paid my final Verizon bill and called to verify I didn't owe them anything else and that my phone would be placed on hold. About a year later I get a letter from their legal department demanding ~$500 for early termination and other fees and that it had been reported on my credit rating. So Verizon can go f' themselves, no matter what I'll never do business with them again.