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T-Mobile Band 4 LTE, Las Vegas area!!!

Today T-Mobile announced LTE official launch in Vegas is due within two to three weeks. That means the network is definitely live and being finely tuned! Up until now only T-Mobile engineers had access to LTE network, but since it's weeks away it could be live for us consumers!
All of you in Las Vegas area with Nexus 4 should be downloading PhoneInfo app from PlayStore and forcing LTE/WCDMA/GSM on your devices as most likely T-Mobile LTE will be popping up within days if it isn't already!!!
Please report here! :laugh:

Forget las Vegas when is NY getting it?
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Although I'd love to see NYC live asap, I don't think it'll be included in the very first LTE launch markets.
Vegas was the very first 1900Mhz HSPA+21 market last summer, and NYC was just officially launched a few weeks ago.

Well when it makes its way to NY I'll be sure to try it out

They said 100 million to 200 million people would be getting it by mid-year. I'm assuming Band 4 LTE is the flavor that the Nexus 4 likes?

yahoowizard said:
They said 100 million to 200 million people would be getting it by mid-year.
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Just to be clear, T-mobile is fudging these numbers. By 100 to 200 million, they mean possible customers. They aren't actually talking about 100-200 million actual customers having access to LTE.

No kidding. If they had 200 million customers they would be the number one carrier in the US.
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They're covering the markets loaded with potential subscribers. Also, when they officially launch a market, they don't claim that every cell site is upgraded either so YMMV.

I'm in Vegas now and will be running speed test none stop
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DroidDavi said:
I'm in Vegas now and will be running speed test none stop
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Just use PhoneInfo.apk and change your network preference to LTE/WCDMA/GSM or LTE only while you're testing. If you see "4G" indicator, you're in! Then start speed testing lol

When I run lte only I get nothing. Now will I see a 4g symbol or will it stay on HSDPA when its live
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DroidDavi said:
When I run lte only I get nothing. Now will I see a 4g symbol or will it stay on HSDPA when its live
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Put it to LTE/WCDMA/GSM mode. Once ready, you'll see LTE.

Is there a rollout plan in existance that anyone may know yet?
I'm sure my area would be on the bottom 3/4 but you never know.
I know a few super small town not far from here got the standard 4g/LTE before the metro areas a while back, mainly because farmers sell their land so towers can be built. Gotta love the Midwest.

sorry folks but seattle will get it first!

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4G LTE Indicator?

I just got the phone a while ago and u wonder, does it support the WiMax bands? Because I do get 4G occasionally but a speedtest shows it to be incredibly slow.
If possible could anyone on Sprint screenshot when they know they're on LTE and show me?
Thank you!
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No you don't get a Wimax signal. The HTC's radio is not capable of this. As far as I know, neither is any other LTE phone. But you don't have much to lose. Sprint is expected to shut down its WiMax by 2015 (or something) and I've read it wasn't much good either. Sprint is just starting to roll out its LTE. I'm supposed to get it in August. I'm waiting. It should be worth it.

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No you don't get a Wimax signal. The HTC's radio is not capable of this. As far as I know, neither is any other LTE phone. But you don't have much to lose. Sprint is expected to shut down its WiMax by 2015 (or something) and I've read it wasn't much good either. Sprint is just starting to roll out its LTE. I'm supposed to get it in August. I'm waiting. It should be worth it.
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Any idea why I'm getting extremely slow speeds then?

At home I get blazing speed on LTE.. At work (4 min away) I get 3g but when I walk around the building I can sometimes connect to LTE but its very very slow.

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At home I get blazing speed on LTE.. At work (4 min away) I get 3g but when I walk around the building I can sometimes connect to LTE but its very very slow.
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Do you have any speed test results?
I have a great signal near a friends house and my upload is around 10 and my download barely increases.

TechnoHacker said:
Do you have any speed test results?
I have a great signal near a friends house and my upload is around 10 and my download barely increases.
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You might be in an area where 4G isn't fully implemented and just experimental. I work in NY and they never officially announced that they deployed LTE here. I do connect to 4G LTE outside my office but speed tests only show like 1.5 - 2 mb at best, even with full bars.

cnsviet said:
You might be in an area where 4G isn't fully implemented and just experimental. I work in NY and they never officially announced that they deployed LTE here. I do connect to 4G LTE outside my office but speed tests only show like 1.5 - 2 mb at best, even with full bars.
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Ahh that explains it. Sprint did say they were going to rollout LTE here, but with no date.
That's literally my situation aha
Thank you!

TechnoHacker said:
Ahh that explains it. Sprint did say they were going to rollout LTE here, but with no date.
That's literally my situation aha
Thank you!
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NP! I too have been patiently waiting for 4G LTE. Been paying the $10 premium monthly add-on for 3 years but getting what feels like AOL dial-up speeds :crying:

cnsviet said:
NP! I too have been patiently waiting for 4G LTE. Been paying the $10 premium monthly add-on for 3 years but getting what feels like AOL dial-up speeds :crying:
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Yup. I know that feel. My friend's got the phone on another network ( I think it was AT&T ) and his speeds are insanely fast. :crying:

TechnoHacker said:
Do you have any speed test results?
I have a great signal near a friends house and my upload is around 10 and my download barely increases.
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TechnoHacker said:
Ahh that explains it. Sprint did say they were going to rollout LTE here, but with no date.
That's literally my situation aha
Thank you!
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Basically how it rolls. There's a few towers in my area that are sporadically transmitting LTE, but if you try to use actual data it'll kick you down to 3G (which would likely contribute to your low speeds).

Yeah this is my current situation as well. I might get a 4G signal, but it's like 1 maybe 1.5 down. Most of the time I'm on crappy 3G, with speeds of 0.1 mbps.
Sprint rep said August.... I can only hope.

cnsviet said:
You might be in an area where 4G isn't fully implemented and just experimental. I work in NY and they never officially announced that they deployed LTE here. I do connect to 4G LTE outside my office but speed tests only show like 1.5 - 2 mb at best, even with full bars.
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Just fyi, the bars at the top are for 1x only, not LTE:
http://www.s4gru.com/index.php?/top...-to-determine-your-actual-LTE-signal-strength
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subhumanderelict said:
Just fyi, the bars at the top are for 1x only, not LTE:
http://www.s4gru.com/index.php?/top...-to-determine-your-actual-LTE-signal-strength
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Wow how misleading lol... seems like this is just for Sprint specifically?

cnsviet said:
Wow how misleading lol... seems like this is just for Sprint specifically?
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ive seen it like that for other carriers as well (i work with cell phones for my job)

It would be cool if sprint implanted lte signal bars the same way wimax does!
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It's not just sprint. HTC phones report signal this way. Cyanogenmod reports signal differently, and other manufactures report signal differently also.
but it's ok to eat fish cause they don't have feelings.....

Given that there's no standard for "bars" with data signals, that's fine with me. I'd like a statusbar widget though that reported that kind of info.

If you want a standard, use the "text" setting. It displays the signal strength in dBm

Sprint Instability

Had an entire section of town go down yesterday. Showed full signal but everytime anyone attempted to make a call it showed "network failure". Even attempting to call sprint's customer service numbers.
Finally got ahold of sprint via a land line and they claimed the towers show no problems and the network wasn't congested...
It is really bad since I rely on my phone for emergency response. Anyone else notice instability like this lately?

Are you in an area where LTE is being deployed? Sometimes that happens. You dont get LTE and the 3G gets worse.
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vader860 said:
Are you in an area where LTE is being deployed? Sometimes that happens. You dont get LTE and the 3G gets worse.
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Well we were on the "list" (Tallahassee, FL) but haven't seen much LTE (or any) in Tallahassee... It wasn't just 3g, the entire 1xRTT network dropped (no phone calls, no texts). I am on business so I get to use business tech (instead of consumer tech) and they viewed all the work orders for the towers in teh area. Said there was nothing currently happening that would have caused the entire network to go down and that we aren't even close to 800 SMR deployment (which pisses me off because Sprint coverage inside my office is horrible, while verizon I can get a strong 1x, 3g and LTE (my work phone and air card are all verizon)).

Same thing happened to me a while back, nothing worked, but I was roaming. It lasted for a few days, then when it started working again, I got LTE.

Same thing going on around Philly suburbs. Calls dropping like crazy and horribly slow 3g. When lte is turned on for good, does 3g go back to normal, or stay slower than the 1x speeds I get in some places?

prob tower issues it happens.. has nothing to do with sprint
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thlinx said:
prob tower issues it happens.. has nothing to do with sprint
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if its sprint's tower issue, then it has everything to do with sprint
since its their towers

flex360 said:
if its sprint's tower issue, then it has everything to do with sprint
since its their towers
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no its not sprints fault its the vendors fault
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thlinx said:
no its not sprints fault its the vendors fault
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Lolololol
So do we go ask the vendor to fix their towers?
It's Sprint's responsibility to make sure it deals with good vendors and that they maintain the towers well.

thlinx said:
prob tower issues it happens.. has nothing to do with sprint
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How so when Sprint's internal diagnostic tools show the tower is functioning properly (in respect to the Sprint network)?

Its possible that your area is getting 1900 network vision upgrades, which knock you out for about a week.you don't really notice the lte install because you don't have the service, but you are dependent on 1900 for voice so its not pretty. Our area just got the upgrade and we had a lot of unhappy customers, I couldnt call or text for about 6 days. I'm off for a few weeks or I would check it out for you.

No issues
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So if I am scheduled to get LTE in my area soon, what kind of behavior would the network show?
I get crappy 3G almost everywhere, where every time I try to do anything, the 3G indicator goes dark and I get a network error. Whenever I get an LTE signal, it's usually a namesake, and I get knocked down to 3G. In select spots at select times, I get super duper slow 3G: around 90kbps. Sometimes 200. VERY few times, I get around 2 megs on LTE. That only lasts a little while.
I'm scheduled to get LTE this month. When should I expect decent coverage? All the threads in the International forum about gigs of data have me PUMPED!

sauprankul said:
Lolololol
So do we go ask the vendor to fix their towers?
It's Sprint's responsibility to make sure it deals with good vendors and that they maintain the towers well.
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Towers go down. Power goes out, internet goes down.
These things happen. You call Sprint, you let them know. Even if they tell you everything looks good on their end, if they get 5 calls about the same tower, they'll send out an engineer.
Expecting 100% uptime is absurd.

sauprankul said:
So if I am scheduled to get LTE in my area soon, what kind of behavior would the network show?
I get crappy 3G almost everywhere, where every time I try to do anything, the 3G indicator goes dark and I get a network error. Whenever I get an LTE signal, it's usually a namesake, and I get knocked down to 3G. In select spots at select times, I get super duper slow 3G: around 90kbps. Sometimes 200. VERY few times, I get around 2 megs on LTE. That only lasts a little while.
I'm scheduled to get LTE this month. When should I expect decent coverage? All the threads in the International forum about gigs of data have me PUMPED!
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Normally you will just start to see 4g more often. You may some some minor odd behavior because they are up on the tower fooling around but it won't be a big outage. They do one site at a time, and once it's on it has to be tuned for optimal performance which takes a while too.
Sadly your 3g speeds are normal anymore, smart phones now days have completely overwhelmed the marginal capacity that evodo offers. Only thing they can do is to throw more RF carriers up but that can cause interface issues between cell sites and it can actually hinder performance. Areas that have complete lte toll outs do end up with much better 3g since the data hogs are now on lte, I can get about 1.5 down on 3g here where we have both lte and 1900mghz 3g network vision complete.

Same issues in Washington, DC for the Past 3 days. I sure hope its because they are upgrading the towers

Same thing happened in Houston a couple of days ago. One of the three towers in the area I work has been Network Vision upgraded, other two still in the works. Anywho, all of a sudden, no calls/texts for a span of about 20-30 minutes (longer/more in other areas). Sprint: "no issues reported in your area", I was: "yeah, I'm reporting one/some". Everything back to normal, for the time being, super-slow 3G (less than 100kbps). Thank goodness for Xfinity at home/work. I work for a preferred retailer and all we have been advised is that the upgrades are coming and will resolve and greatly improve our (Sprint's) network. Hopefully, the influx of money from the new owners will make it so. Nextel bandwidth/spectrum to be used for LTE, yes you'll need a new phone with correct radio.
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I havent read much of what's going on here just skimmed through but I would like to add what I've heard.
Lately we've been having a lot of iPhones come in with data issues. Not just the 5 but 4 and 4s as well. This week alone I've seen 6 myself. Before that... Maybe 1 or 2 everyone 6 months. It's rare. And today these people plus more have come back with a worse issue. They aren't getting reception anywhere. (I'm in Washington btw). So I called my nss support team and they said as of the 17th of July sprint has been getting way more aggressive with the network vision and the iPhone's are more sensitive to this update but other device will start experience these problems and it's going to get worse all over the state till about October. The eta is October.
Sprint wants to have this network vision finished by this year so it just makes sense it would be happening in other states also.
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tsdeaton said:
I havent read much of what's going on here just skimmed through but I would like to add what I've heard.
Lately we've been having a lot of iPhones come in with data issues. Not just the 5 but 4 and 4s as well. This week alone I've seen 6 myself. Before that... Maybe 1 or 2 everyone 6 months. It's rare. And today these people plus more have come back with a worse issue. They aren't getting reception anywhere. (I'm in Washington btw). So I called my nss support team and they said as of the 17th of July sprint has been getting way more aggressive with the network vision and the iPhone's are more sensitive to this update but other device will start experience these problems and it's going to get worse all over the state till about October. The eta is October.
Sprint wants to have this network vision finished by this year so it just makes sense it would be happening in other states also.
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You should have access to glance, it will tell you which sites are being upgraded and ETA's for lte and 3g nv. You have to be a lead or SM to access it.

duck9191 said:
You should have access to glance, it will tell you which sites are being upgraded and ETA's for lte and 3g nv. You have to be a lead or SM to access it.
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Would be awesome to get this info for Tallahassee fl
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Other Device and/or upgrading discussion here

Please use this thread to discus both upgrading and/or other devices in this thread, be respectful always. Thanks

Naddict said:
Please use this thread to discus both upgrading and/or other devices in this thread, be respectful always. Thanks
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But we already have an off topic thread >_>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2319960&highlight=off+topic :good:

Coming from this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446195
Just stopped in to sprint store and they said the had no clue what this was and nothing like that would be coming to sprint.sprint always seems to be the last to know anything..plus the last to get anything new in....
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In case you didn't know, Sprint store employees are NOT allowed to tell customers about upcoming events or promotions.
Trust me, they do know about such things.
I know this because a sprint store employee told me that they do know about upcoming promotional events.

ObrienDave said:
Coming from this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446195
In case you didn't know, Sprint store employees are NOT allowed to tell customers about upcoming events or promotions.
Trust me, they do know about such things.
I know this because a sprint store employee told me that they do know about upcoming promotional events.
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Especially since most times they have to be trained on certain devices and promotions..

Nexus 5 will be sprint compatible.... we will find out in a few weeks!

sure is im getting my nexus 5 in 2-3 day!!! its on its way to my now!! ill miss my s4 but hello nexus 5!! soooo much more development.. perfect phone for me seeing im a crack flasher.. there will be so many rims and kernels... heaven!!!

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sure is im getting my nexus 5 in 2-3 day!!! its on its way to my now!! ill miss my s4 but hello nexus 5!! soooo much more development.. perfect phone for me seeing im a crack flasher.. there will be so many rims and kernels... heaven!!!
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I'm not gonna ruin the Nexus 5, by putting it on Sprints network. Hello T-Mobile!

I work at Sprint and I play with all the new devices when they launch. First impression of the Nexus was it felt cheap. And the fact that it's made by LG this time just backs up the why the quality somewhat trash. The obnoxious circle phone speaker in the front was hideous. I thought it was a front facing speaker like HTC's One but it was an in call speaker. It looked like a knock off of all the phones that are out.
I did enjoy playing with the camera. A lot of new stuff that I want sure how to use yet but first impression was that the camera would be 1 of the key selling points for the phone. I had mixed feelings about the gigantic app icons but like I said it was my first impression so they could grow on me.
The feel of the phone in terms of performance wasn't bad. My GS4 is smoother with scrolling but I am stock rooted with stock kernel and debloated so Im pretty sure once this phone is too then it will be smooth as well. I did like how apps would open very quickly. Not much faster than my GS4 but was noticeable.
Honestly the phones performance isn't something to debate about because it is very resposnsive. And the Google Now feature is dope as well, but the feel and look of the phone just felt cheap like it was made from recycled parts or something. Just my 2 cents. The phone is a decent LG quality phone. If you like LG then go for it.
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I'm not gonna ruin the Nexus 5, by putting it on Sprints network. Hello T-Mobile!
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TMobile doesn't have real LTE....
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youngpro83 said:
TMobile doesn't have real LTE....
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Neither does Sprint. How is something "real" if it doesn't tangibly exist in any measurable form in most places.
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DizturbedOne said:
Neither does Sprint. How is something "real" if it doesn't tangibly exist in any measurable form in most places.
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TMobile has 3G HSPA + which isn't actually any form of 4G but they advertise it as that. Your LTE capable phone isn't even on a real 4G or 4G LTE network.
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youngpro83 said:
TMobile has 3G HSPA + which isn't actually any form of 4G but they advertise it as that. Your LTE capable phone isn't even on a real 4G or 4G LTE network.
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So I had been toying with the idea of going from S4 -> N5, and went to the sprint store to play with N5. It does feel snappy. Just like when I install a fresh new rom on S4. Though Google Now fc on me on the N5.
Next I loaded up the same web page on both devices and noted that the page pan was not that significantly different.
Not convinced quite yet, but I may change my mind later. Still waiting for the ipad air to arrive which would keep me entertained for a while.

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Neither does Sprint. How is something "real" if it doesn't tangibly exist in any measurable form in most places.
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Because it is still being launched?
I feel like a lot of Sprint people expect Sprint to have LTE up in their back yard instantly. People always compare their LTE to Sprint. Verizon had a two year start on LTE deployment than Sprint since they chose to go with Wimax.
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TMobile doesn't have real LTE....
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T-Mobile absolutely has LTE. And theirs is at least 20 times faster than Sprint's LTE here. I'm on Sprint LTE at home, and I just got 124 kbps down and 300 up. That's actually pretty good for their LTE! And it's been launched here for a few months. I guess that's what you get when you launch LTE handsets before you even have an LTE network to use them on anywhere in the nation. Once it's turned on, there are thousands of handsets sucking down the bandwidth as soon as it's turned on. Would probably help if they weren't running each tower off of one single Comcast cable modem...
Obviously that last part isn't true. but they shouldn't be selling or having LTE service here, if 124 kbps is there idea of LTE.

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T-Mobile absolutely has LTE. And theirs is at least 20 times faster than Sprint's LTE here. I'm on Sprint LTE at home, and I just got 124 kbps down and 300 up. That's actually pretty good for their LTE! And it's been launched here for a few months. I guess that's what you get when you launch LTE handsets before you even have an LTE network to use them on anywhere in the nation. Once it's turned on, there are thousands of handsets sucking down the bandwidth as soon as it's turned on. Would probably help if they weren't running each tower off of one single Comcast cable modem...
Obviously that last part isn't true. but they shouldn't be selling or having LTE service here, if 124 kbps is there idea of LTE.
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Just an issue with that area. I consistently get 500kbps at my work, come home and get over 30mbps. The network is building, give it time.
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imneveral0ne said:
T-Mobile absolutely has LTE. And theirs is at least 20 times faster than Sprint's LTE here. I'm on Sprint LTE at home, and I just got 124 kbps down and 300 up. That's actually pretty good for their LTE! And it's been launched here for a few months. I guess that's what you get when you launch LTE handsets before you even have an LTE network to use them on anywhere in the nation. Once it's turned on, there are thousands of handsets sucking down the bandwidth as soon as it's turned on. Would probably help if they weren't running each tower off of one single Comcast cable modem...
Obviously that last part isn't true. but they shouldn't be selling or having LTE service here, if 124 kbps is there idea of LTE.
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Than LTE hasn't been officially riled out yet in your area.it well get better. I typically get between 15-30mbs down and 10-15mbs up on Sprint LTE and my area is only 75 percent rolled out. When I first started getting LTE in my area I would only get 1-2mbs down. Hang in there and it will get better. Also, all carriers sell their LTE phones before the network is built out.
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*Useless Complaint to Follow*
Why, oh WHY did Kies pull the mja update! *Sniff* My one play day a week I get and it's not there..
/complaint - Off to dev section I go..

problem solved !!

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Sprint HTC with HTC Spark possible?

As sprint rolls out their spark networks, tri-band LTE, I see the only supported devices are Galaxy S4 and HTC One Max right now but Sprint has said that "updates" to some devices could allow tri-band LTE on some phones. I'm assuming that the phone needs a tri-band antenna in order for this to work. Does anyone know if the HTC One has a tri-band antenna?

No the one doesn't have the hardware.
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I would have to assume no... Believe that it only has the 1900 and 800 MHz radios. The 2500 MHz was originally used in WiMax. The problem you really run into is depending on 2500 MHz band because the wave length is so long that it really is horrible for penetration of building walls. That is why WiMax wasn't so great, and it really only worked on the streets unless you were by a window.
And the HTC One wasn't on the Spark phone list either...

It won't work. But its a good thing triband phones will have issues connecting to existing LTE towers and won't be updated till early 2014. Also by the time sprint spark actually matters you will have an update to a better phone like the HTC two
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tsdeaton said:
It won't work. But its a good thing triband phones will have issues connecting to existing LTE towers and won't be updated till early 2014. Also by the time sprint spark actually matters you will have an update to a better phone like the HTC two
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False. My Nexus 5 is Spark-compatible and it picks up LTE much better than my HTC One ever did... That's actually the main reason I decided to stick with the Nexus. It just flat out gets better reception than my One everywhere.
But yeah, Spark is barely even available yet and by the time there is actually significant coverage, the 'M8' will be out anyway... Now if HTC decides to fix their damn signal problems by then, I may actually decide to get one.

weidnerj said:
The problem you really run into is depending on 2500 MHz band because the wave length is so long short that it really is horrible for penetration of building walls.
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Fixed
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As far as I'm concerned, "Sprint Spark" is just marketing jargon for something I'm actually interested in, 850 MHz Band 26 LTE coverage. Sure, band 41 deployments will be great for speed near a window, but I'm much more interested in steady, uniquitous coverage of speeds greater than 6Mbps.

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Fixed
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lol thanks! i saw that and thought.. hmmmmm... thats buggin me but i would never want to call someone out on a forum.. lol

deakelem said:
lol thanks! i saw that and thought.. hmmmmm... thats buggin me but i would never want to call someone out on a forum.. lol
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I'm sure that it was an honest mistake; I'm not here to call people out for the hell of it. I think we're all here to learn and communicate what we know to others, and the latter involves ensuring accurate information is being provided by others. I expect to be corrected when I'm wrong, I just ask that it be done respectfully.
He/she was certainly on the right track, I was just concerned about someone keeping it in mind and becoming confused when they see something on another site about how 800 MHz has better propagation because of its longer wavelength.

tyler.durden said:
False. My Nexus 5 is Spark-compatible and it picks up LTE much better than my HTC One ever did... That's actually the main reason I decided to stick with the Nexus. It just flat out gets better reception than my One everywhere.
But yeah, Spark is barely even available yet and by the time there is actually significant coverage, the 'M8' will be out anyway... Now if HTC decides to fix their damn signal problems by then, I may actually decide to get one.
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My 2nd (month old) ONE does well when SPRINT's LTE signal is decent.... maybe upgraded service, HTC correcting MF flaws that plagued early phones, maybe both idk... But my 1st ONE on release date sucked picking Sprint LTE.
Hopefully, Sprint will have broadly updated service so Spark will be available in more cities around the time of M8 release. :banghead: Regardless I'm getting it bc of international LTE bands and possibilities. I give kudos to HTC for building a phone that still relevant with all that's come out new and so Sprint for exploring innovative Signal/Tower changes to improve the connection experience.
just can't keep from flashbacks of the WIMAX debacle!
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