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In addition to my other issues, refer to thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43272 (ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred), I have noticed that battery meter on my 8125 flashed to the the imate aku2 rom, is always at 100%. I'm unsure whether this will effect charging since when I plug in the charger, the led turns green immediately and stops charging, and I have had the device turned on for 4 or 5 hours disabling all the power saving features, leaving the backlight on, turned on BT and wifi, and its still at 100%... either its a great battery, or somethings screwy.
small update.
after about 5 hours the battery meter started to drop quickly. Although this is good, the problem that comes up for the first 5 hours, you cannot charge the device as it thinks the battery is full.
Am I the only one experiencing this?
same here.... after 24 hours battery meter droped from 100 to 94
bafore it was 90 after 24 hours
maybe they improved something.. thats why it does not go so fast as before
I think it is the fact that the new rom seems to be much better with power consumption. I am getting almost a 50% gain between charges due to my pattern of usage!!! Very happy!
I'm more then happy at the battery improvement, what I am not happy about is that if this is a bug (granted there is improvement), the problem becomes when charging the phone, so I have it for 12 hours, its still showing 100%, I have an offsite meeting the next day, and would not be able to charge the phone for the entire day, the battery will start to drop very fast since the phone thought it was fully charged, when it really was not... I'm confusing myself here, but I think you understand what I am saying.
Also, while my battery was at 84%, I did a soft reset, when the phone came back up, it showed 100% battery and refused to charge... this is a problem.
You might want to inquire about a replacement device or battery - in case it's not the sotware.
My laptop has this issue. It's always been on external power and somehow that's weirded out the control circuit telling the machine how full the battery is. It will read 100%, but it's actually at 75%. Then if I disconnect it, it will go down to 5% in 8 minutes. However, it will happily run for 3 hours+ on that last 5%. Similarly, if I hook it back up to the charger, it goes to 99% (leaving the battery indicator light amber) in another 8 minutes. Takes many hours more for it to get back to 100% (making the battery indicator light blue).
With any luck the control circuit will be in the battery (I believe it is), and the easiest way to check is to exchange your battery for a temporary new one and see if the problem goes away.
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I think it is the fact that the new rom seems to be much better with power consumption. I am getting almost a 50% gain between charges due to my pattern of usage!!! Very happy!
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Agreed.
If you think your battery is stuck - just do this little test.
Turn on Bluetooth, WiFi, make a GPRS connection, and set back light at 100% and don't let them turn off or let the unit power off. The battery should drain pretty quickly in this senario.
I thought mine was stuck, but it dropped 5% in less than 10 min in this mode.
FYI,
JB
I'm not so sure its the battery.. another issue that I just noticed, is taht even though the backlight is turning off, the screen itself is not turning off after the designated time I set...... this is rather bothersome as if I forgot to manually turn off the screen.. it remains on constantly.
Even with my original Qtek 9100 EN ROM, the screen doesn't turn off - only backlight. If you want the screen to be off, you'd need to go to Standby, or use a third party utility to turn the screen entirely off.
Although lithium batteries are best kept at a full charge, they should be periodically drained to recalibrate the fuel gauge.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
I was also having this problem but after about 2 days use it began to go down. My G3 device seemed to hang at 100% and drop quickly after it hits 25%. I believe this must be a hardware issue as I now have a G4 (setup identically to the G3) and it does not have this issue.
i am having the same issue but i believe it the battery because my phone 8 months old and if you read the battery thread it has all the same issues your having
Hi everyone, well when i charge my battery all the way to 100% its fine, i use the device as an mp3 player as well which in my case brings down the battery 10%, but most of the time my battery meter is not accurate, for example it will say 54 percent but when i restart the phone it will shoot up to 75 or something, it always does that, is there any hardware problems or anything?
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Hello MimoG3
This may or may not be related, but I remember after restoring from a backup a few months ago and removing the battery prior to this the device battery meter was very inaccurate. After the restore, the battery extremely low warning came up because it thought I had 0% battery. Long story short, after a while I noticed the battery was not seated properly. So I took out the battery, cleaned the contacts, and put it back in, and it worked fine again. Try cleaning all the battery contacts. Google "Clean battery contacts" or something similar if you do not know how to safely clean battery contacts.
Also, although I have not had this problem that your are describing, try posting your rom and rom version, radio, device information, battery s/n if possible, and other device info should it turn out there is a bad batch of batteries or devices.
-Dave
i have noticed when i restart the phone once in a while and when the battery is fully charged it will think its empty and shut off the phone, to fix that i take out the battery and it starts up again. also sometimes it freezes at startup until i take out the battery but that happens when i restart as well.
Leave your phone on playing music until it turns itself off because of low battery. Remove battery 10 seconds, put it back in and turn on again. Repeat until the battery is really empty and the phone turns off less than 5 mins after you turned it on. Plug charger, turn on, leave until fully charged. This should improve accuracy. Avoid removing the battery if not needed.
ive done something similar to that, i turned on the wifi, bluetooth and gps on so that it would drain the battery fast, then when it turned off i turned it on again with all those things off except the GSM Radio, then eventually it shut off once it stopped turning on i charged it all the way. it still didnt help
battery measuring is not really that much of an exact science
only way to tell the % is
when a batt being pulled current from the volts drop
the less juice left in the batt the more it drops
so the device measure the volts
and makes an educated guess how much juice is left
just after a reset the batt could very well perform a bit better
for a few mins voltWise
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when it turned off i turned it on again
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Did you remove the battery? The phone doesn't usually reset the meter if you leave it in.
@rudegar: No, most recent devices including HTC phones don't only use the battery voltage but count how much energy they use / charge to the battery. That usually allows more precise measurement, but can also sceww up if uncalibrated, and is really annoying as it doesn't want to use higher capacity batteries correctly.
I don't know if I am the only one seeing this, but when I had Eclair, I had crap battery life, to the tune of 10 hours or so. (Granted this may not be crap for Nexus One but it is crap based off past phones I have had.) I installed FRF85B last night and discovered some weird glitches.
First off, when it was in my car dock, it wasn't charging yet the battery life kept dropping, I powered off the device, and powered it back on 10 minutes later (still in the dock) and no change stayed at 91%, still wouldn't charge. I then powered it off, took it out of the dock, plugged in the car charger cable directly and powered on my N1, when it turned on, it said I had 100% battery life. I then plugged it back into the car dock, and voila it started charging.
Secondly, originally when I had unplugged my N1 this morning I used it for about an hour at 5AM and it dropped 2% I plugged it back in to top it off expecting the same crap battery life from Eclair, yet so far, my phone has been fully topped off (from the car dock) for the past 40 minutes and I've made about 20 minutes of phone calls on it, yet it still is reporting 100%. So either Froyo can't properly report battery life, or it has the potential to have absurd battery life. Anyone else experiencing anything like this?
First off - you still didn't search this forum, so you're still thinking that an overcharging protection that doesn't allow you to charge unless you drop below 91%, is a quirk. It's not.
Second, wiping battery stats and making battery calibration procedure ONCE will give you a good starting point to measure something.
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First off - you still didn't search this forum, so you're still thinking that an overcharging protection that doesn't allow you to charge unless you drop below 91%, is a quirk. It's not.
Second, wiping battery stats and making battery calibration procedure ONCE will give you a good starting point to measure something.
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The quirk isn't that it wouldn't let me charge that way, the issue was, my battery reported 91% yet when I rebooted the device with the charger directly plugged into it, it immediately showed 100%. So pretty much over the course of 30 seconds I gained 9% battery life.
I wiped my device to factory settings before upgrading to Froyo, and after as well, since my device is not rooted, my understanding is I cannot wipe my battery calibration log.
I did drain my battery fully after upgrading to froyo last night and did a full charge as well.
What you're describing looks like the statistics of the battery is "lying" a bit. I believe it can be thrown a bit off by trying to charge it when it's in 91-100% range, but I don't know the exact way it works, so I can't say much about it.
Indeed, if you're not rooted, wiping battery stats is not an option. Several times of full charge and long discharge (you don't need to go below 20%, to prevent harming the battery) are helpful in correcting the statistics.
If you get a chance to try, please repeat this again (having the phone at >90%, turning it off, plugging it into the charger and turning it back on). If it shows "Charged" again - it might be a bug worth reporting.
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What you're describing looks like the statistics of the battery is "lying" a bit. I believe it can be thrown a bit off by trying to charge it when it's in 91-100% range, but I don't know the exact way it works, so I can't say much about it.
Indeed, if you're not rooted, wiping battery stats is not an option. Several times of full charge and long discharge (you don't need to go below 20%, to prevent harming the battery) are helpful in correcting the statistics.
If you get a chance to try, please repeat this again (having the phone at >90%, turning it off, plugging it into the charger and turning it back on). If it shows "Charged" again - it might be a bug worth reporting.
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I'll have to try it again tomorrow morning, first see if it happens under the same circumstances and go from there. One thing I do remember is the widget I was using "Battery Left" reported that at 91% I had 4100 mAh left in it, which was interesting, and when it went back to 100% it had 4120 mAh which makes me think the OS wasn't actually reading the voltage and thought it was just draining the battery instead.
EDIT: Just realised I had my wall charger with me, battery was at 90% figured I would try, real quick to attempt to replicate the problem, I was unable to, with a direct battery connection, but it could be due to a voltage issue or be related to why plugging it in directly to the car charger resolved the issue. My gut feeling is, it has to do with the dock itself and the pins it uses.
my battery often is charging and it hits 93% and immediately jumps right to 100%. it skips the last 7% or so. i think what is happening is you just finally experienced this issue, which many of us have already posted about in battery threads, but it just happens to coincide with froyo so you are thinking its new and related. the nexus ever once in a while battery meter just gets thrown off and will jump up to 100% because it really was full, just had to catch up the meter. you really should pay attention to the voltage more than percentage, using battery life widget. i know my battery is fully charged at 4.172 volts. and sometimes it hits that but still only shows 94%, so it adjusts itself in one fell swoop.
The issue is I did an extra full charge about an hour ago so I can make it till midnight and it went through all the numbers from 89-100 with no issue
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Addendum: Also it seems to be voltage is not that good of a decider of how much my charge is. Before Froyo, until I dropped below 94% I was always above 4 Volts, now I drop below 4 Volts at 96%.
So this morning I was able to replicate the problem, only it was outside of the car dock, I was able to get this problem to reoccur with the wall charger. I unplugged it from power, used it a little bit and then topped it off for the day, it was at 96%. I saw the green light go on, and thought nothing of it, 20 minutes later I went back to it and it was still at 96% and showed that the battery was fully charged.
I checked the Battery Left widget and it was saying the battery was fully charged even though it said 96% left also. I did make a crappy video uploaded to youtube from my backflip to show as well what I am talking about.
AFAIK, The green LED will light when you're anywhere above 90%. It's not a function of charge being complete. Check it.
Also, if you plugged it in with 96% - this is the behavior to be expected, since the phone won't start charging unless it has below 90% to begin with, and it'll show "Charged" - because it's not charging (to prevent overcharge).
Again, fail to see any problem in what you're describing.
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AFAIK, The green LED will light when you're anywhere above 90%. It's not a function of charge being complete. Check it.
Also, if you plugged it in with 96% - this is the behavior to be expected, since the phone won't start charging unless it has below 90% to begin with, and it'll show "Charged" - because it's not charging (to prevent overcharge).
Again, fail to see any problem in what you're describing.
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Yet my phone has always been able to charge when above 90% before froyo. This behavior is new to froyo for me at least.
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It means that you've never paid attention to that until now. It's working this way since the phone was out (with stock Eclair) and if I'm not mistaken - it's not controlled by OS at all.
I did pay attention to such actually because of the fact that I had been getting piss poor battery life. This has never happened before. In the morning I would use the device a little then top it off because I noticed that works give better battery life.
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Well, you had a buggy phone that has now corrected itself. Welcome to the way it was supposed to work from the beginning.
Topping off the battery at 90%+ contributes to battery degradation - heating from overcharging. So you were actually damaging your battery.
I think I might have a problem with my battery, but I'm not sure. I had it on the charger for 12 hours. So the battery should be full. When I took it off the charger, the status bar indicated that it had dropped down a notch. Is this normal? I was expecting the battery indicator to be fully shaded in white.
Ok. So I restarted the phone. Now the battery indicator is showing that it's completely full. Hmmm.
This happened to me too today. I'll try a reboot...
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Please remember that your battery needs some time to kick in and settle before you'll get full charges/power and correct indicators. If you just got your phone on Monday, wait about a week, and your phone should last longer and display more accurate approximation of battery life.
If it has been much past a week though, and your battery life is still significantly poor, then it may be your battery, device, or how you have the system configured.
I've commented on this a few times before, the same thing happens to me.
Its obviously a bug with the OS or something as I am now on my second HD7 and it does exactly the same.
let the phone battery drain out then let the phone charge completely with out using it. You will see a huge improvement on your battery life and the phone will charge alot quicker. That will also fix the battery indicator bug.
Ariel is right.
Remember for best optimization of any battery is when u use it 0% to 100% and then let is drain to 0% again.
i have the phone since a week with 5 charges i am not happy YET with the battery. Hope it opens up as ppl are saing.
I forced my battery dry a couple of times between charges using the HTC Flashlight app.
Run the app on maximum beam (you might have to wake it up every now and again) and the battery drains very quickly. I turned on wifi and set some music playing as well for good measure.
Then charge using the supplied charger rather than a PC USB connection. I'm not sure if that's meant to make a difference but mine charges up much faster that way.
Charging your phone through USB to PC always takes longer then using the charger
I'm getting about 15 hours of battery per charge. That's with moderate use (text messages, e-mail web browsing, a couple phone calls). This is MUCH better than when I first got my HD2. The battery would drain about 1% every 3 minutes. It was absurd. I'm pretty content with the battery life thus far. Windows Phone 7 is such a pleasure to use.
friend has an evo and he's trying to sell ot to get an hd7 lmao
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I think I might have a problem with my battery, but I'm not sure. I had it on the charger for 12 hours. So the battery should be full. When I took it off the charger, the status bar indicated that it had dropped down a notch. Is this normal? I was expecting the battery indicator to be fully shaded in white.
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I got the HTC Surround and I noticed the same thing. After coming off a full charge (the whole night) I loose what looks like 5% of the charge within the first 5 minutes. Sometimes it's after as much as replying to a text.
Hopefully the battery has to 'settle in', as others have suggested.
Hello everyone!
This is my second post here...but I really felt like I had to take attitude this time and actually do something.
So my samsung galaxy s3 is acting so weird that I can't use it without something bad happening for one day.
So...first of all...my battery doesn't last more than four hours straight if, for example, I am listening to music.
It literally goes down about 1% every few minutes.
Also..there is something really weird happening with my battery even after it completely shuts down. Lets's say I am on 1% and the phone shuts off. After the screen goes black and I plug it in...the charging screen appears and the battery seems to be half charged. I open the phone again and it is already at 45%. All this operation takes a matter of seconds...but still it goes from 1% to 45%. After the phone is up...this percentage starts to go down even faster than before...in the end my phone shuts down again...and this time it starts to charge from 0%.
Today it shut off...and when I got home and plugged in the charger it didn't do anything...i just left it like that for about 10 minutes then tried to power it on without the charger being plugged in...and it worked. After that it started to charge. I have no ideea what is happening.
Also...my charging time is really big. I do not know why but when I use another charger from a samsung galaxy mini 2 it seems to charge way faster.
That's pretty much all so far. If you need more details, please let me know.
I hope you can help me sort this out!
Best regards!
Ilie Mihai said:
Hello everyone!
This is my second post here...but I really felt like I had to take attitude this time and actually do something.
So my samsung galaxy s3 is acting so weird that I can't use it without something bad happening for one day.
So...first of all...my battery doesn't last more than four hours straight if, for example, I am listening to music.
It literally goes down about 1% every few minutes.
Also..there is something really weird happening with my battery even after it completely shuts down. Lets's say I am on 1% and the phone shuts off. After the screen goes black and I plug it in...the charging screen appears and the battery seems to be half charged. I open the phone again and it is already at 45%. All this operation takes a matter of seconds...but still it goes from 1% to 45%. After the phone is up...this percentage starts to go down even faster than before...in the end my phone shuts down again...and this time it starts to charge from 0%.
Today it shut off...and when I got home and plugged in the charger it didn't do anything...i just left it like that for about 10 minutes then tried to power it on without the charger being plugged in...and it worked. After that it started to charge. I have no ideea what is happening.
Also...my charging time is really big. I do not know why but when I use another charger from a samsung galaxy mini 2 it seems to charge way faster.
That's pretty much all so far. If you need more details, please let me know.
I hope you can help me sort this out!
Best regards!
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1.Might be the battery is dead or broken, or its not calibrated. How old is the phone and battery?
2. It seems to take ages to charge my s3 lte too, give us a number in hours how much time you need?
3. The problem where phone wont turn on or show charging when battery is as low as 1%, i had this too, i think its normal, its protecting the battery
4. Do you have overcloacked anything? It happend to me when i had ovecloaced and did benchamark test, the phone froze and battery eas 5% when i restarted the phone, but before it was 45.
Not realy helpful but i am trying XD. Also might wanna buy new battery, its not that expesive
if you are running stock rom with no rooting no anything....100% it's the battery.
if not install stock and see how it goes...if it's acting normal then the mods are the problem...if it's the same it's the battery.
Do a factory data reset on stock recovery. See how that works out first
Starting from factory reset is bad idea - it should be the last step IMHO.
First what in such case we need to check is battery health.
Percentage we see on our phone is weak indicator, because it is calculated
Better to see the voltage in different situations. How to check this (terminal app or adb in console):
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now
The lowest voltage that device can handle without heavy usage is less than 3500mV (I saw even 3240mV, but with low brightness, no data connection and after trying to make a call phone turned off).
The maximum voltage is obout 4300mV.
When You see 1% of battery and voltage is realy close to 3500mV or battery is charged and voltage after removing charge is dropping realy fast to then your battery very likely need to be replaced.
I bought Samsung Extended Battery (3000mAh) and this tripled the time usage than my 2 years old normal battery 2100mAh. You can see that difference in their capacity is much smaller - about 43% biger, but give me 300% much time on battery so old one was realy worn out.
BUT if your battery wasnt used for longer than half year, you can do as follows:
1. Discharge battery
2. When phone turns off - turn it on again, but into download mode (Home-VolumeDown-Power)
3. Leave phone for as long as it turns off again and repeat step 2 till time that Download Mode wont even boot.
4. Take off battery and place it back, and again try point 2 (start Download Mode) - do it until phone will show Download Mode for only 2-3 secconds
5. Again and last time replace battery and charge phone, but turned off
6. When phone will be charged, turn it on and leave it on charger for about one hour
After those steps use your phone lightly and try to repeat whole process one more time but only when the battery will normaly discharge and phone will turn off.
I tried those steps and battery for sure can work longer FOR ONE RUN, but unfortunately it can lead to loss of capacity much faster, but it will be noticable after one year - IMHO its always good time to buy new battery.
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Starting from factory reset is bad idea - it should be the last step IMHO.
First what in such case we need to check is battery health.
Percentage we see on our phone is weak indicator, because it is calculated
Better to see the voltage in different situations. How to check this (terminal app or adb in console):
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now
The lowest voltage that device can handle without heavy usage is less than 3500mV (I saw even 3240mV, but with low brightness, no data connection and after trying to make a call phone turned off).
The maximum voltage is obout 4300mV.
When You see 1% of battery and voltage is realy close to 3500mV or battery is charged and voltage after removing charge is dropping realy fast to then your battery very likely need to be replaced.
I bought Samsung Extended Battery (3000mAh) and this tripled the time usage than my 2 years old normal battery 2100mAh. You can see that difference in their capacity is much smaller - about 43% biger, but give me 300% much time on battery so old one was realy worn out.
BUT if your battery wasnt used for longer than half year, you can do as follows:
1. Discharge battery
2. When phone turns off - turn it on again, but into download mode (Home-VolumeDown-Power)
3. Leave phone for as long as it turns off again and repeat step 2 till time that Download Mode wont even boot.
4. Take off battery and place it back, and again try point 2 (start Download Mode) - do it until phone will show Download Mode for only 2-3 secconds
5. Again and last time replace battery and charge phone, but turned off
6. When phone will be charged, turn it on and leave it on charger for about one hour
After those steps use your phone lightly and try to repeat whole process one more time but only when the battery will normaly discharge and phone will turn off.
I tried those steps and battery for sure can work longer FOR ONE RUN, but unfortunately it can lead to loss of capacity much faster, but it will be noticable after one year - IMHO its always good time to buy new battery.
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Nothing good will come from that procedure. Those steps were useful in the epoch of nickel-cadmium batteries, where the battery had no internal circuits to monitor itself and had a tendecy to uncalibrate. Those stops would force the device and the battery to re-adapt to one another.
But now we're using Li-Ion batteries, and those DO NOT like to be fully discharged. Hell, the device might not even recognize the battery, if it has really been fully discharged.
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Okay...so I went to the shop from where I bought my s3 (Orange shop) And they told me to send it to their service and I did so...as I still had it under warranty. It was there for exactly a week and today I got it back. They told me they replaced the battery (which they actually did...I checked that) and the power connector from my phone. The battery it's still not good enaugh in my opinion. Immediately after I got it back...I turned it on and it had 79% battery. In about an hour it went down about 25% (so to 54%) but I didn't used it havely (note: the mobile data option was on). I really do not know what to do. I asked someone and they told me to send it again because this is not normal.
My s3 is running stock 4.3 and used to last waay longer back in the day.
What should I do? I literally got about max 5 hours of use before I sent it and I am afraid this will happen again. I do not even want to think what is going to happen if I listen to music for example.
I turned the phone off a few hours ago...then let it charge up to 59% and then stopped because I had to leave. I used it moderately for about 4 hours and 51 minutes (as my phone says) and i have about 2h and 15minutes of screen on time. My screen is using 50% of the battery and also Android system is using about 17%...chrome 12% Android OS 7% and I think everything else is less important as they use 7%<. After those almost 5 hours...while the mobile data option was on all the time I am at 14% battery.
What do you think? Is it good enaugh? Should I send it back? I really need help!
I am waiting for suggestions.
Best regards!
Ilie Mihai said:
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I turned the phone off a few hours ago...then let it charge up to 59% and then stopped because I had to leave. I used it moderately for about 4 hours and 51 minutes (as my phone says) and i have about 2h and 15minutes of screen on time. My screen is using 50% of the battery and also Android system is using about 17%...chrome 12% Android OS 7% and I think everything else is less important as they use 7%<. After those almost 5 hours...while the mobile data option was on all the time I am at 14% battery.
What do you think? Is it good enaugh? Should I send it back? I really need help!
I am waiting for suggestions.
Best regards!
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I think so, the fact that you have the screen on top of Android OS (and not the other way around) pleases me. You had your screen on for 2h15m, of course your battery went down fast
Test it, charge it full, and use it. Normally.
Do this for 2 or 3 days, and check how the battery lasts