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Hi all.
People notice my phone and keep saying -
"What's that?"
"Who makes it?"
"What does it do?"
"Is it an iPhone"
So I am asking for suggestions, what is the best way and software to show off what these things are, and what they can do?
Thanks,
B
I show off TouchFlo
I show off Touch Flo, Skyfire, TomTom, remote desktop, vnc, the keyboard, the tilt screen, the copy and paste, ect.
turn the screen brightness all the way up. turn the sound all the way up. and scroll through manilla looking for something to do.
LOL !
I get the same damn iPhone question since I have the VZW Touch. First I say it's HTC, then it's WTF is HTC? Then they see my Vista WAD theme, and want to play with everything. The S2P, Opera, Multiplayer Poker, and some are amazed I can open '07 Excel and Word files. Not to mention, after ThrottleLock pops up, they have no idea what to do !
Some people are amazed at it, and we find it somewhat simple. There was a customer I was talking to once, and she was giving me a small order. I write down the order in notes, calculate the prices, then make a phone call. All the while she had no idea it was a phone to begin with.
But nobody knows my secret......GPS tracking with RT, shhhhh!!!!
Gremote, remote desktop to show off the hi res, gyrator.
If you have RemoteTracker, that is an awesome tool to show off.
Teeter is always a winner. If they're a gamer, COD2 in HW accel mode is pretty awesome.
Let's be honest, it's a geek's plaything and some folk just won't get it.
I got my hands on an iPhone for the first time today. It was very nice, and I played with it for a bit. We got it at my work as a test phone. The app support guy asked me if I wanted to take it home for the weekend to play with, as he knows I'm a smartphone nut.
You know what? I couldn't be bothered. For me, iPhone is not the future. I thought, great, a toy for the weekend. Then I thought about what I might play with and just lost interest. I love the way it's pushed the industry forward, don't get me wrong.
I think they're not so great for geeks like me who like to hack around.
Elite rom is nearly out (tonight? hopefully), and the linux guys are making amazing strides with Android. The exciting thing for me having the touch pro as a hobby gadget, is that the potential has nowhere near been reached.
Great thread!!!
LOL
I have the same question almost in any place I go (And my Uni is form 2005)
Nobody seems to know what the hell is that thing?
One day I forgot it in a taxi and the driver said to me: "Hey you forgot your calculator" LOL
I find almost imposible to explain what I have on my hands
Cheers to all
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I have the same question almost in any place I go (And my Uni is form 2005)
Nobody seems to know what the hell is that thing?
One day I forgot it in a taxi and the driver said to me: "Hey you forgot your calculator" LOL
I find almost imposible to explain what I have on my hands
Cheers to all
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Oh my God!!!!!
When I saw calc, I started laughing my ass off!
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Oh my God!!!!!
When I saw calc, I started laughing my ass off!
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Yeah me too! after I passed my scarry moments thinking of me without my Uni...
And thanks to that funny fact the driver returned me my old and heavy "calculator"! if he knew it was a cellphone my chances to geting back were less than cero...
I have a hot-key set to play a .wav file a wave file of an electric razor, then pretend like I'm shaving with it after I finish a call. It's great fun in a bank line
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I have a hot-key set to play a .wav file a wave file of an electric razor, then pretend like I'm shaving with it after I finish a call. It's great fun in a bank line
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Haha awesome!!!
show it off in the club, and when ever someone needs to use a phone...you have one right here....then they are like "how do i use this?" oh...you go like this *scroll through manilla, and do a quick copy and paste....wait sorry i didnt mean to do that, here - you just do this to make a call
LOL
LMFAO!!!!
Well, here where I live, as soon as you meet people, i dunno, for lunch, you place your phones on top of the table. HTC is new here, but people are still fab about the iPhone and now the Blackberries, but I used "Manila" on my Elfin, and the phone is so small, light and Manila just ROCKS! Bar-None, as I said in a post, not only trendy women, but people who depend on their phones would flip through TouchFlo and see the Home screen, contacts, SMS, Email, weather, and Browser so FAST, SIMPLE and BEAUTFUL.....suddenly.....their phone feels.......like a stale piece of bread? LOL!!!!!!
Paul
*lol* I keep telling people "this is a HTC device I´m using, its not an iPhone, but in some terms better".
Apps to show-off in my oppinion: Browsing with Opera, TomTom, S2U2, S2P, S2V and of course Manilla2D. Nevertheless, since my brother´s got a Diamond I know that the possibilities to show off with my polaris are quite...limited xD
So my suggestion: Just buy Diamond/HD and pack it with G-Sensor apps, games, show Manilla theming and skinning stuff (which the iPhone is not able to do )
Martin
I've put a shortcut to a mp3 i made at zedge.net using the voice tool called hello phone
in my start menu. Then using microsoft voice command the coversation goes like this
Me - Start hello phone
Phone - Hello darren, how are you?
Me - I'm fine, now shut up.
Phone - ok, I'm sorry for disturbing you
Gonna try to make a really long sophisticated one soon
I press a couple numbers and press Send. They're amazed by the voices on the other side of the phone.
Hi all. I've decided to try and make some future Microsoft product "my idea", so I've submitted the following letter to them via billg [at] microsoft [dit] com. I just wanted to know if you guys had any input.
Flaming is sure to happen, and while I won't argue with you, I will probably wish your firstborn child is used as a shot put.
Dear Microsoft,
Lately I’ve been bombarded with commercial after commercial showing random people (and their self perceptions) stating that Windows 7 was their idea for one reason or another. I’m not completely disgusted by these or anything, but it started my mind on one of those winding roads a character in a story might have to take to get home, or to the girl, or to the climax, or… well I guess that is kind of repetitious – but the point is, I started thinking about the variety of Microsoft’s operating systems and the history they’ve had – rather, our history together.
I’ve used just about everything Microsoft has created… I started my computer “education” by soldering a few broken parts back together on a Commodore 64 I found in a dump, and then learning BASIC on it (the BASIC on the Commodore 64 was a variant created and licensed by Microsoft). Right now, I’m typing this in Microsoft Word, on a laptop that has Microsoft Windows Vista, being distracted by a cellular phone that runs Microsoft Windows Phone 6.5.
That was a mouthful when I read it aloud.
But the reason for this letter is not so much a history lesson, but a worry of what is to come. It seems the goal over there the past few years is some cross between being different and being more like Macintosh, or Google, or insert company name here, and I’m here to state that I don’t like the transformation the publicists and tech news sites are ranting and raving about.
A few examples?
- Most recently must be the attempt to remove the clipboard features from my phone. I say “attempt”, because I am willing to bet that will be brought back, either by you or some developers out there.
- Office 2007’s menu structure looks like someone tried to “make it better” and ruined it.
- Windows Vista and Windows 7 both look like some kind of cross-dressing Microsoft product who was “supposed to be a Mac”.
What happens when you become so close to the competition that nobody can tell you apart? Developers and IT teams may not like parts of Windows, but they are able adjust most of what they don’t like to work for them. If this path continues, and all of the contenders out there do the exact same thing, you’re really shooting yourselves in the collective foot by taking away your uniqueness.
I guess what I’m really trying to say is “different” does not equal “better”. Get back to your roots and make something that your current audience will buy. Put them above the “new customers” you’re trying to reach. It’s the same error that many companies make nowadays – neglecting the long time customers for some new ones. You end up losing great customers that way.
See, I am a man. There’s an expression stating that men marry women expecting them to be the same, and women marry men expecting that they’ll change. I feel like Microsoft is giving in to the women out there – the ones who complain about it being too hard to use or not pretty enough – and we have enough of that already. I’m not trying to hate on women out there, but maybe the movie Team America explained it best… something about assholes, dicks, and ******* (I won’t go into it, but watch the movie if you need an explanation). What we need is for Microsoft to be a **** again.
Good luck and happy creating,
(Name Removed)
P.S. This email was sent using Microsoft Outlook.
Thanks in advance for any feedback,
Drunk
oooh nice
so did they reply back and what did the email say?
anyway nice letter
no replies yet, but I just sent it last night.
Mad props for Team America reference =P
the whole my idea is just a commercial not a real deal imho
http://gizmodo.com/5477384/windows-7-was-my-idea-but-to-be-fair-i-dont-know-what-im-talking-about
I don't doubt that it is just a big marketing gimick, but I wanted to explain that it looks like they are listening to people's ideas - just the wrong ones.
I'm waiting for them to show the ads on TV which make the claim that W7 has fewer clicks so I can report it to the ASA.
Starting a program like solitaire with the mouse is either the same number (if you don't mind a 2 second wait) or one more click than XP/Vista.
As for getting to the network card properties that's a heck of a lot more clicks than Vista or XP.
W7 has some very well thought out features, but unfortunately it's got more that just aren't.
I hate MS for putting me in a position where I have to say I prefer Vista! Damn them! Damn them to Hades!
WM7 looks awful, and the restrictions they're putting on it make no user or business sense.
Office 2007 is appauling, what were they thinking? Why make an application which users have to refer to google in order to complete simple common tasks?
Don't expect a reply, Drunk, at least something that isn't just generically polite and thanking you for your thoughtful input.
You blended good points that resonate with much of their shrinking user base, made up partly by people who have no idea they're running Microsoft and also in part by people who are obsessed with modifying them, with that bit on genitals. They're not interested in us anymore, nor would they want to add a lot of attention to your letter by giving you something from them to paste on and spread around. They want to intercept people from buying the other phones with no regard to who's already buying their own phones, and you can't really blame them considering how fast they're still falling (down 4% last quarter) toward obscurity.
Just to offer myself as an example of others reading what you just posted and what may be on their own minds, considering I made two websites about the damn thing, I'd say I was a bonafide WinMo fanatic, one of the last expected to say adios, but I just did, a Nexus One, and not only will I continue to love and go nuts with it I will attempt to take others with me. It's brewing right here on XDA, the place you'd think would be the haven mainly for people who like to do what can mostly only be done exclusively with WinMo phones.
Actually I read this by mistake, forgot to get rid of all my WinMo rss feeds on Google Reader to which my phone's synced. Good read though, glad you posted it. So thanks.
But no matter how much rabble you rouse here nor what signs you wave in front of their Seattle office you won't stop this train, the general direction of which they've made it clear that they are taking with WP7 being mostly the opposite of what a lot of us want. They can't please everyone and they'd rather please would-otherwise-be customers of their competitors even at the expense of estranging themselves from part of their existing customers. On the bright side, in addition to there being other options (specifically the one I took), they claim they'll keep supporting existing versions of WinMo for at least a while, though not forever on new devices I don't think which will have unique hardware that if I heard correctly won't even have removable storage, not to mention any support for decentralized application distribution. You don't like the sound of what's coming but what's coming is in their opinion good for business and I suppose mine too. When you're already failing at this rate in such a critical time of penetrating a huge market with enormous potential that will be realized further and further every day, it's hard to come up with a dumb idea on how to do things differently. Not to mention I've seen quite a few extremists shrug off each new bit of bad news saying Whatever I'll still try it, and once they do, then Microsoft has got them for at least a long enough period of time to figure out how to keep them hooked while they intercept little bits of business from the others. Right now they're handing business away. It's a joke.
Making sure the likes of you and others on sites like XDA remain happy customers as they implement these drastic changes to their mobile operations is not high up on their to do list.
Just sayin'.
Doug
Can't say I don't agree with you on most of that. I honestly don't expect much of a reply... at most a blanket letter or something like that. I've also been working my way to other vendors. I've got some android variant on my TP2 now and Ubuntu on my laptop (both still dual boots, but it's a step that direction). I just didn't want it all to happen without my 2 cents' worth being thrown at them.
Thanks for stopping by.
I hear you man, I'm all about ranting. This and this in particular. Also this.
Take a look at that and mobilitydigest.com (basically the same with a less weird domain), you'd make a great writer. Perfect style, perfect background (impressive by the way), perfect fire in your belly. We can't yet offer you money but what we can give you is an audience. Let me know.
"but I wanted to explain that it looks like they are listening to people's ideas - just the wrong ones."
yeah with the whole win phone 7 seeming like being a copy of the features of org iphone sure sounds like they are getting bad advice
Job Discovery allows you to find Jobs of any simple to extensive search term in an extremely "dumbed" type interface. With GPS location enabled, it can easily detect the area you're in and search OR simply type a Zipcode of where you might wish to find jobs (maybe where you want to move).
Like the job, company and city/state the job is in? Click the job for instant Step-By-Step Voice (If enabled) and Text GPS Directions w/LIVE Traffic & Construction updates from your current location to the job of your choice. This allows you to easily Job Hunt for jobs in the area you may have just had an interview or plan your day and track the Job's on the Map and "Pin" them for easy 1-Click access.
With the extremely easy UI, anyone can find a job and with results displaying as fast as 2 seconds (May vary depending on Data Plan, Location, etc...), it takes the hours of research out of the way and the calling of each location (or printing a map) a thing of the past. A more graphical and more feature/customizable edition called Job Discovery II (Free too) will be released shortly for those who need even more specifics for results.
You can now Download JD at: http://windowsphone.com/s?appid=d635d0cd-aee2-4f6a-89a1-495b94bbd64e.
thanks man!!
I hope you like it, if you have any suggestions please make them .
God knows, I need a job. I hope this helps.
If you have any suggestions or features you'd like, please let me know...
Originally designed to let you find other jobs by your current/job interview/possible locations you may live and show you the Store, Job Title and the location.
lseidman said:
If you have any suggestions or features you'd like, please let me know...
Originally designed to let you find other jobs by your current/job interview/possible locations you may live and show you the Store, Job Title and the location.
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Along with the search field, how about a drop menu with common job fields?
You got it! I will start archiving different job types from Job/Career Sites and have an auto-complete so as you type it will also guess what you wanted?
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You got it! I will start archiving different job types from Job/Career Sites and have an auto-complete so as you type it will also guess what you wanted?
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That'd be perfect. Especially for someone who's looking for anything as opposed to something specific. Some of us are desperate for any field we can find a job in.
I appreciate your input, very helpful and will try and roll this update out ASAP as it may take a little time for the update to get accepted and don't want you to be out of a job too long .
Remember if you have anything else you'd like to see, I hope you'd let me know as this App had one purpose, to find jobs and currently searches quite a bit of job sites but tries to narrow down and "rates" them, which you may sometimes see numbers before a job title/company as it thinks they are the best suited/available at the time.
Thanks,
Lance
returned4good said:
That'd be perfect. Especially for someone who's looking for anything as opposed to something specific. Some of us are desperate for any field we can find a job in.
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I love the idea of this app. I'm curious; what database does it use for the job listings? Is it Monster or something like that?
Good job Men
It actually uses a "stream" of job sites, not just one in specific and which is why it kind of does it's own guessing of what's the best jobs to show. A total of now 38 sites when originally it was more than 50 exist now but a lot of sites have blocked the App/Cloud Server but that's ok.
When you search, you're actually sending an anonymous string to our cloud server which hosts a cURL/PHP file that does the actual work (sending the requests to the job sites as some job sites offer an API and will use it) and immediately parses it as it requests only specific parts (some are actually designed separately, especially if they are an API search provider and makes it easier to generate the content) and sends back to the App the converted Lat/Lon of the job location and takes either your exact GPS Lat/Lon or Zipcode and goes, well this and this are closer but they are possibly less relevant and that can be based off of the job title, job content, and also published date/time to determine what may really be the best in the end for you.
I hope that sort of answers your question? As for Monster, we do search them as well but EXTREMELY hard and we only do a max of 35-requests to them so that we don't get banned but all monster results are stored for 72 hours in a MySQL Database.
Thanks,
Lance
M.Alamgir said:
Good job Men
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Thank you very much, I appreciate your response.
Well, the concept is fresh and the app is useful; it has the two most important yet rare points in the app market today for any phone, especially at the same time.
Wow, I didn't know Winn Dixie was hiring......
returned4good said:
Well, the concept is fresh and the app is useful; it has the two most important yet rare points in the app market today for any phone, especially at the same time.
Wow, I didn't know Winn Dixie was hiring......
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That is very nice of you to say, I appreciate it and glad JD was able to show you a job you didn't know existed.
Good news is another view of jobs has been in the works where you can swipe from Map View and List View which will have the job link to the actual company or job site that has the job but has been a little difficult as the sources vary but would this even be of any use to you?
Tried it, but have to use it landscape? Also the GPS did not work for me, since I'm in Canada. Also, the popup advertisements are annoying. Anyway to get them just to stay at the bottom? Otherwise I can't say how good it is without seeing any jobs.
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That is very nice of you to say, I appreciate it and glad JD was able to show you a job you didn't know existed.
Good news is another view of jobs has been in the works where you can swipe from Map View and List View which will have the job link to the actual company or job site that has the job but has been a little difficult as the sources vary but would this even be of any use to you?
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Absolutely, it would. It would cut out the step of having to google the company and then find their employment link, which isn't always easy to find as I just found out with Winn Dixie. BTW, I dropped 3 applications so far. Let's see what happens.
neoxphuse said:
Tried it, but have to use it landscape? Also the GPS did not work for me, since I'm in Canada. Also, the popup advertisements are annoying. Anyway to get them just to stay at the bottom? Otherwise I can't say how good it is without seeing any jobs.
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At this specific time it accepts only US Postal Codes as it is digit-based and outside US, like Canada, can have alphanumerical (alphameric) and in Canada specific from what I was studying basically has 2 main parts... First part being "Forward Station Area" and second being the "Local Delivery Unit" and could be listed as H1G, 49,657 or H1G49657, which for the input I would need to scan for both possible formats but since the InputScope lastly was updated to strictly "Digits", making the letters impossible to input.
So we actually in our "prototype", I was speaking about with 2 views has an option in the very beginning, if you're non-US, you select that as it will allow all forms of input where the US is specific and allows only 5-Digits. Also some of the sources we use are strictly US job sites but once we saw some of them actual have multi-country job posting/listing we thought it was a good idea to help the other part of the world.
As for the Ad, it should randomly Popup and the reason for it's current placement is actually because people complained it was at the bottom right or bottom left and for some odd reason the top left seemed less intrusive to the 9 people who beta tested it. Also I have it randomly Popup only because I didn't want to make the map smaller to fit a stupid Ad and make it static which some Ad's can be nutty and be flashy and super annoying. This is why when you search for jobs it automatically centers and zoom-in on the location with the most jobs/in the area, but you probably can't see that if you can't see any jobs... Try typing in "89117" and see if it's still an issue to you and if so, let me know and we'll come up with something else.
Also the landscape-only is because the map is larger this way and easier to view as Portrait mode is and I can assure you much smaller and quite disappointing. When you have 20-30 job's Popup, a square box with tons of little "Markers" and text gets almost blurred and when you click an actual marker it launches the GPS feature, which is why in the Portrait mode people kept clicking the wrong one and we figured let's just have them hate us for this mode and not hate us cause they keep clicking the wrong job.
I will stop going on about the future updates but we haven't forgotten the other part of North America and our countries friends, which you will see soon, I promise .
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Absolutely, it would. It would cut out the step of having to google the company and then find their employment link, which isn't always easy to find as I just found out with Winn Dixie. BTW, I dropped 3 applications so far. Let's see what happens.
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First, I am glad you find that would be something useful to you and apologize for you currently having to do manual labor as that wasn't really the goal of the App, to make you do anything really.
We didn't think ahead that people might not be driving around with a stack of Resumes and go to each store to drop them off. Later on and good feedback like yours, it shows people want to see even more about the Job/Pay/Hours/Misc. Items and maybe even not leave home and just Apply online as another way to Apply to Jobs, which is why we were just discussing maybe adding a "Send to..." option and can send it to Twitter or Email but figured Email might be better or to txt to a friend as it may be a bit overkill adding social media in the picture.
As far as your job applications, are these job applications due to this program itself? Like how you discovered the jobs? Either way, I hope you get one of the jobs!
Just an observation, not bagging on anyone, but literally 90%+ of the posts in their General section and General Jailbreaking sections were "This doesn't work," "Help Me with this," "This is broken," "What am I doing wrong?" etc. There were maybe two to three threads per page out of around 30 that were devs or users posting some tidbit or program or work-around.
Again, this is not only in the mods section, but also in plain old general iOS discussion. Kind of funny that the thing that "just works" doesn't really seem to. I know a big part of the limited reporting of iOS issues is that sites like CNET and such pander so heavily to anything Apple that it would never cross their mind to speak up about unsavory experiences, but seemed pretty interesting how many issues people really run into with iOS.
I also noted that it has to suck having so much difficulty doing things like creating full backup images of the phone or even just backing up all the data for easy restoration. When someone asked about where text messages are stored by the system what seemed to be experienced users were telling him to check Google for where individual assets were located and that it can be pretty difficult to track them down in iOS.
Just one man's musings.
Happens here all the time, we just have better mods.
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I actually thought that iTunes (ugh) made a complete back up of the system on an iThing (at least it was an option)
Also, AFAIK Their big time devs focus mainly on jailbreak/unlock scenarios and then there are the Cydia devs....
I could be completely wrong about all of this as I would rather be hung upside down and stung by a thousand wasps before owning one of those.....devices.
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I also noted that it has to suck having so much difficulty doing things like creating full backup images of the phone or even just backing up all the data for easy restoration. When someone asked about where text messages are stored by the system what seemed to be experienced users were telling him to check Google for where individual assets were located and that it can be pretty difficult to track them down in iOS.
Just one man's musings.
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No need to have backup images since iTunes backs up everything like contacts, SMS, apps + data and so on. If an iPhone fails it's easy to just hit "Restore" in iTunes and it'll reinstall the OS and then restore the backup so it's exactly like it was before you restored.
The shocking thing though is that very few people actually know about the restore button in iTunes. I've gotten a lot of questions from friends with iPhone's about these things.
- "OMG! My iPhone is doing this and that, i have to send it to Apple for repairs".
No you don't, and i then proceed with opening iTunes, connect the phone and hit restore. "Wow! What did you do?!". Kill me now.
I've also gotten soft bricked iPhone's in. Not as easy as just pressing a button in iTunes, but it only takes 10 minutes and it's up and running again.
Conclusion: iPhone people just aren't that technical. The same applies to most Android users, but with Android we do actually have some controll over things. If something seems wrong we can easily make a dump (stop laughing) and actually understand what's causing this/these problem(s).
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No need to have backup images since iTunes backs up everything like contacts, SMS, apps + data and so on. If an iPhone fails it's easy to just hit "Restore" in iTunes and it'll reinstall the OS and then restore the backup so it's exactly like it was before you restored.
The shocking thing though is that very few people actually know about the restore button in iTunes. I've gotten a lot of questions from friends with iPhone's about these things.
- "OMG! My iPhone is doing this and that, i have to send it to Apple for repairs".
No you don't, and i then proceed with opening iTunes, connect the phone and hit restore. "Wow! What did you do?!". Kill me now.
I've also gotten soft bricked iPhone's in. Not as easy as just pressing a button in iTunes, but it only takes 10 minutes and it's up and running again.
Conclusion: iPhone people just aren't that technical. The same applies to most Android users, but with Android we do actually have some controll over things. If something seems wrong we can easily make a dump (stop laughing) and actually understand what's causing this/these problem(s).
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So, what your saying is that I was only partially wrong?
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I'm not sure what you are, but you're not wrong
I think the deal with the backups was that certain issues came up if you only wanted to restore information to the phone vs resetting everything back like you would with a full Nandroid. It just seemed like every user found a new way to make things difficult despite half a page of stickies giving out about every seemingly-likely scenario. Half of the threads were people having major, major issues post-jailbreaking.
I was also a bit perturbed when I read their "Apple vs Android" thread. I understand that there are closed-minded people in the world but I swear most of them were on that forum and the arguments were just idiocy. One guy liked iOS better because all his apps are on his home screen, even if he has to go through screen after screen to find what he's looking for because they are in no particular order. He dumped on Android for having an alphabetized app drawer, saying it just didn't make sense to him.
My fault for even going on there, but it made me not want to live on this planet anymore =p
People who use iOS are stupider than those who use android.... FACT!
MissionImprobable said:
I think the deal with the backups was that certain issues came up if you only wanted to restore information to the phone vs resetting everything back like you would with a full Nandroid. It just seemed like every user found a new way to make things difficult despite half a page of stickies giving out about every seemingly-likely scenario. Half of the threads were people having major, major issues post-jailbreaking.
I was also a bit perturbed when I read their "Apple vs Android" thread. I understand that there are closed-minded people in the world but I swear most of them were on that forum and the arguments were just idiocy. One guy liked iOS better because all his apps are on his home screen, even if he has to go through screen after screen to find what he's looking for because they are in no particular order. He dumped on Android for having an alphabetized app drawer, saying it just didn't make sense to him.
My fault for even going on there, but it made me not want to live on this planet anymore =p
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AshtonTS said:
People who use iOS are stupider than those who use android.... FACT!
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So it's exactly like every other forum, including XDA
AshtonTS said:
People who use iOS are stupider than those who use android.... FACT!
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And on that note, I think we've all had enough of the iThread. Please continue iOS related discussions on the xda iPhone specific site.
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For a company that is so good at something's , this is a pretty bad app and desktop experience.
I am a heavy user of Gnote and Evernote.
And of late Synology notes..
You would think that since you have spent a zillion won on development of a phone with a great pen setup you would also spent a bit more time on making sure the note taking ability can be..
A. Be Synched .. (sync is on for notes on my phone and shows its synced to thier cloud via the bytes).
B. The file format can be read by your own desktop program. (The desktop version I have found is an April 2018).
While it will view/import a exported pdf..
it will give you an option to backup a *sdoc file but not import it.. (what's the point of this?)
So on Both of these above there is a fail at this point in my tests..
(due to miss-understanding by the reply posters to the original post I have edited to be clear about what has been tested)
While the phone shows that the notes have been sent to Samsung cloud..they are not linked back to the desktop app..
ie the desktop application not sync with the "said notes" after checking log in a few times..
As a suggestion (and this doesn't not have to be driven by the Korean side but could be by the international components within Samsung development).
Samsung development team, if you want to see a good note app in action buy yourself a Synology NAS and reverse engineer thier app and desktop program. ****..
As a suggestion to put forward a worthy idea..
"if your a lowly Samsung engineer, I have just given you a leg up the ladder.. crack this and you have made yourself a job..it would be then the best business tool ever. Especially for the Dex software development..'
Ok.. so we have on the desktop program the ability to import .SPD...snb...pdf
But not the *.sdoc export from phone.. transfered via network storage..But it will see the pdf version.
Really..
You can export the *.sdoc android format out but can't even import it into your own desktop app.
What's the point of that???
Seems the tail of the Samsung donkey is not talking to the head..
(reference to post 5 on this one,
as it seems that some have taken this as aimed at a nationality which has been explained,
it is not a jab at anyone but a jab at interdepartmental development for a better product offering..
as it happens this is not only a problem for Samsung but for a great many companies)
Rant over..[emoji41]
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For a company that is so good at something's , this is a pretty bad app and desktop experience.
I am a heavy user of Gnotes and Evernotes.
And of late Synology notes..
You would think that since you have spent a zillion won on development of a phone with a great pen setup you would also spent a bit more time on making sure the note taking ability can be..
A.Synched
B. The file format can be read by your own desktop program. (The version I have found is an April 2018).
Both of these above fail.
While the phone shows that the notes have been sent to Samsung cloud..they are not linked back to the desktop app..ie the desktop application not sync with the said notes after checking log in a few times..
Samsung development team, if you want to see a good note app in action buy yourself a Synology NAS and reverse engineer thier app and desktop program. ****..if your a lowly Samsung engineer, I have just given you a leg up the ladder.. crack this and you have made yourself a job..it would be then the best business tool every. Especially for the Dex software development..
Ok.. so we have on the desktop program the ability to import .SPD...snb...pdf
But not .sdoc
(It will see the pdf version)
Really..
You can export the android format out but can't even import it into your own desktop app???
Seems the tail of the Samsung donkey is not talking to the head..
Rant over..[emoji41]
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If you're going to talk down on Korean people you could at least use English correctly. You're using wrong words, misspelled words and cussing at them. There are alternatives. Write an email to the developer. 0 of 5 stars.
@rbiter said:
If you're going to talk down on Korean people you could at least use English correctly. You're using wrong words, misspelled words and cussing at them. There are alternatives. Write an email to the developer. 0 of 5 stars.
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Pull ya head in..
who said anything about nationality?
Samsung is a multi national with programmers across the globe if you haven't noticed..
It's a review of said program..
And as one of my roles in this life is as a teacher and trainer I am pretty sure that the mix of Grammer I have used comes from yea old book of 'English'..
Not a 'hey Google - give me American English' computer driven set.
The point is.. and if you had done any research..
is that if you did..
you will find that it's been a few years since the first Samsung notes came out and since then they have gone backwards with it..
Not "dust" I would say that, plenty out in WWW land on it..
I would have used it on my Samsung Nexus 10 and a few other Sammy devices but as there are others ie Evernote that do the job well.
As a reference I travelled and worked across 38 sites in China and used Evernote extensively over a 4 year period.. while I had the Samsung Nexus 10 with the first Snotes on it..it never cut the cake for a truely worthwhile app. -- yes..went from the Asus Transformer to the N10 as a travel tablet ..
With a but of luck, it will get better and get the attention it deserves if it is viewed as a business app.. which by all accounts the phone is being aimed at..
Think Dex... As the feeling of a new ecosystem coming . (Refer to video added in next post of mine as there is clear indication that Samsung is aiming Dex as a B2B situation with customised B2B branded apps)
Anyway..ya'all got anything to say about the program or you just spamming threads?
On that note..pardon the pun..
Evernote writing works fine..
Synology note writing is still a bit too "artbrush' as in thick pen lines so as a note taker in meetings not quite there..
And to carry the theme on.. the new Lenovo with a touch keypad and writing abilities is looking good.. this is where it would be cool to see a foldable screen that is touch sensitive be made..something like that could be coming in a cover and we could fold it out to write on with the pen and with Bluetooth connectivity..
Bring back the pen and hand writing!!!!!
Typed by two thumbs from Tapatalk so excuss any fat thumb mistakes and any English that is set to Ozi-Engkish
dgcruzing said:
Pull ya head in..
who said anything about nationality?
Samsung is a multi national with programmers across the globe if you haven't noticed..
It's a review of said program..
And as one of my roles in this life is as a teacher and trainer I am pretty sure that the mix of Grammer I have used comes from yea old book of 'English'..
Not a 'hey Google - give me American English' computer driven set.
The point is.. and if you had done any research..
is that if you did..
you will find that it's been a few years since the first Samsung notes came out and since then they have gone backwards with it..
Not "dust" I would say that, plenty out in WWW land on it..
(I would have used it on my Samsung Nexus 10 and a few other Sammy devices but as there are others ie Evernote that do the job well.)
With a but of luck, it will get better and get the attention it deserves if it is viewed as a business app.. which by all accounts the phone is being aimed at..
Think Dex... As the feeling of a new ecosystem is open us..
Anyway..ya'all got anything to say about the program or you just spamming threads?
On that note..pardon the pun..
Evernote writing works fine..
Synology note writing is still a bit too "artbrush' as in thick pen lines so as a note taker in meetings not quite there..
And to carry the theme on.. the new Lenovo with a touch keypad and writing abilities is looking good.. this is where it would be cool to see a foldable screen that is touch sensitive be made..something like that could be coming in a cover and we could fold it out to write on with the pen and with Bluetooth connectivity..
Bring back the pen and hand writing!!!!!
Typed by two thumbs from Tapatalk so excuss any fat thumb mistakes and any English that is set to Ozi-Engkish
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Umm yeah. Pull yo head out. And quit denying the racism or prejudice. It is blatant.
@rbiter said:
Umm yeah. Pull yo head out. And quit denying the racism or prejudice. It is blatant.
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Jezz you got a bee in ya bonnet..
Since you can't let it go..
Exactly where with in the first post is there any reference to a nationality or a belittlement of one?.. please quote it...
The reference to "won" is in reference to money spent in research..
You might want to consider....
"what and how" you read something is not how the writer has "framed it"
What's going on in your head has nothing to do with this conversation about whether the note program with in the N9 is..
1. Synching to the desktop programme..
(As pointed out..for me it's not..
do some testing and report back if it works for you)
The ability for you to export a file prefix of *.sdoc to be exported back into the desktop program.. works or doesn't work..
(As noted, you can't do it and the program itself will not see the very format..but will see the older versions and pdf versions..)
As noted..I was able to find an April 2018 version of the desktop program..
Thus..the conclusion is..
There is not a lot of development going into this..
Which in fact could be and then make this a useful tool set for sammy mobile users for not only the educational space but business.
But as you only want to play the man and not the topic..
I suggest you bow out or report the original post.. and or post something on topic..and not out of your 'what I think I am reading into it'
And to just be clear of where the post comes from..
I do use the phone for business and have been playing around with pdf signatures.
Thus the ability to be on the road and getting a client to sign using the phone would be a fantastic tool..
At the moment I have been testing getting a client to sign into the note app..(as generally for compliance type documentation there is 10+ signatures)..
The ability to to transfer a high resolution copy out of the Samsung app in its native format is not there..as there is nothing to read it with.
It is noted that it will transfer as a pdf but this is then a flattened document and not as high resolution and or transparent background that would be ideal for electronic signatures.
And since I alluded to the Dex eco system. Which I term as ecosystem as the little I have played with it, is limited in apps that work well within it (for now)..
Reference..
https://youtu.be/umvnRlj9yN8
For the avid reader that has posted crap about the original post being aimed at Koreans, please note that the above video seems to me to be a multi racial character..do note he uses a lot of "we at Samsung are developing"...
All good.. as said..with luck they see value in this app and allocation of resources into it.
Personally I would like them to fold it into something like a full word processing type situation.
And as noted, users of Synology NAS have a great suite of apps at thier finger tips to use with a beast like the N9 on the road..
dgcruzing said:
And to just be clear of where the post comes from..
I do use the phone for business and have been playing around with pdf signatures.
Thus the ability to be on the road and getting a client to sign using the phone would be a fantastic tool..
on of resources into it.
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Aside from your horribly racist comments about Koreans (for shame). If you want signatures have you tried the Write On PDF app by Samsung that's in the playstore?
pcriz said:
Aside from your horribly racist comments about Koreans (for shame). If you want signatures have you tried the Write On PDF app by Samsung that's in the playstore?
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Dam..you guys are coming out of the wood work..
Let's get this straight...
As a person that has lived and worked in Asia for 15+ years.. China/Indonesia/Philippines plus have worked in Silicon Valley with Italians/Mexicans/Indians..
You guys are so barking up the wrong tree..
And yes, I have spent plenty of time in Korean/Japanese/German/Dutch factories in China..
So let's set this record straight..
Rant is at Samsung the company not the country or people it comes from..
NEVER was...
Taken from the XDA rule book at top of said forum.
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From my first post..
1: Investment in Snotes..chances are decision was made on a WON budget.. nothing Racist about that..
let's just giggle and say NZ budget..
2. Engineers - if you think that comment was aimed at any nationality you are sooooo wrong..
as I actually pointed out that if a lower ranking engineer (lowly and or starting out).. was to reverse engineer the Synology apps/desktop note taking program..
and take a peek of the code and compare it to what Samsung has got out there are the moment..
(noting that Synology is a Tiawanese company).. there is a high chance that some good development could come of it..
3. Is it the tail and donkey head comment that has got you guys so uptight..
jezz.. let's say.. the hardware v software teams..lol..
Donkey head being hardware.. tail being software..
No where in those statements am I talking about any Koreans..jezzzzz
Maybe you guys have never truely worked in a multi national environment.. ???
I am not a fan boy of any company and yes, Samsung has screwed it's customers a number of times.. the partnership of Samsung and Google on the original Nexus 10 and the screens turning brown is classic example..(I still have one and while it still boots and runs no one owned up to that production fault..)
The same for batches of S6 screens and I have documented this in other threads..
If I compare those two examples to the HTC EVO which is still being used as a tv remote..hands down the Taiwanese company screen wins for longetivity
So really... The rant is about making something better and who ever makes I don't really care..
There is actually apps available that are cloudbased..
And thanks for your suggestion..I will look to that pdf one you out forward.
So keep the thread on track and put forward better solutions instead of imaginary racial over tones..
Once again.. the note pen works well with in the SNote app.. the ability to export that out as a high resolution copy .. as yet, I have not found a suitable way..
That's not to say that I have not tried...tested and got frustrated with such a simple want...
The *.sdoc format as far as my research has lead me..is a locked down format by Samsung..
If you haven't done your research..Google..
s notes conversion
And have a read..plenty on it out there in WWW land..
Thread closed until any participant can enlighten me on the objective of this thread.
For the record, I don't think the OP was racist in any way. Maybe we need to take a step back and stop assuming any sort of criticism is racism.