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iphone killer app

I'm looking for the one (or better more than 1) app that will kick all the surrounding iphone addicts and will get them to see that the kaiser is not failing even with graphics and interface. I think that a game that takes the graphics to the the limit will do the job - any suggestions?

You don't need any software to do that; it already does.
iPhone users can't figure out how to use these types of phones, you need to be intelligent too, and, well, Apple users really aren't that intelligent...

The Iphone is sooo cute.......It's amazing how impressed people get with what are nothing but a bunch of shortcuts on the phone, You can't do everything you can on WM

If you are looking to get justification from me (or someone else) about the $$ you spent on the kaiser (vs. iphone), then you obviously missed the point.
p.s. you probably should have just asked what the best software was--instead of "why is my 1 year old phone better than the iphone"
p.p.s. maybe you should have bought an iphone. you might be one of the people Squeaky369 was talking about.
...of course, it sounds like he's trying to justify the kaiser also.
Here's my $0.02:
I used to only own sony ericsson phones. until I bought an Audiovox SMT5600. cool phone, but it just needed a "insert newest feature here," to be perfect. Then the next HTC phone came out, and, viola! I bought that one. fast forward through 6 HTC phones in as ~4 years.
I like them because they have great support by the folks here at xda-developers. THAT's enough for me. Customer support, only provided by people who actually care, the customer.
to sum it all up, the kaiser is only a good phone because of this website.

Squeaky369 said:
You don't need any software to do that; it already does.
iPhone users can't figure out how to use these types of phones, you need to be intelligent too, and, well, Apple users really aren't that intelligent...
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Well, that's the the hardest point: make the non intelligent understand that they are such.

pingels said:
If you are looking to get justification from me (or someone else) about the $$ you spent on the kaiser (vs. iphone), then you obviously missed the point.
p.s. you probably should have just asked what the best software was--instead of "why is my 1 year old phone better than the iphone"
p.p.s. maybe you should have bought an iphone. you might be one of the people Squeaky369 was talking about.
...of course, it sounds like he's trying to justify the kaiser also.
Here's my $0.02:
I used to only own sony ericsson phones. until I bought an Audiovox SMT5600. cool phone, but it just needed a "insert newest feature here," to be perfect. Then the next HTC phone came out, and, viola! I bought that one. fast forward through 6 HTC phones in as ~4 years.
I like them because they have great support by the folks here at xda-developers. THAT's enough for me. Customer support, only provided by people who actually care, the customer.
to sum it all up, the kaiser is only a good phone because of this website.
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You totally missed me: If I could get iphone for $100 less than what i have payed for my kaiser (and maybe I could - i just didnt look for) I would never got an apple,
I am more than proud to have my kaiser and I bought it after reading this website for long time and understanding that powerful machine with power web support is what I need. for me the apple is like a toy for spoiled users, but I do find myself many times trying to justify my choice.

udi1 said:
I'm looking for the one (or better more than 1) app that will kick all the surrounding iphone addicts and will get them to see that the kaiser is not failing even with graphics and interface. I think that a game that takes the graphics to the the limit will do the job - any suggestions?
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Anywho, Skyfire. Nuff said. Load it up enabled HSDPA on your phone and head to anysite playing video. I watched that new Chris Rock special on my phone today at work, had the entire crew laughing.

when sanchez get his program out, then you can show them your phone can do everything the iphone does. just showing how customizable it is should do the trick

c'mon man...you already got them with copy and paste!

udi1 said:
I'm looking for the one (or better more than 1) app that will kick all the surrounding iphone addicts and will get them to see that the kaiser is not failing even with graphics and interface. I think that a game that takes the graphics to the the limit will do the job - any suggestions?
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dude, you don't need any special application. just copy and paste and they'll run off crying like little girls

Just show them a cursory list of WM apps/games available for the TyTN II and that'll scare them sh*tless!!!! Nevermind the Java stuff too.
Just show them how customisable the TyTN II is also,
and and and and and...the list is almost endles!!!
I have a thread here somewhere where I had a device shoot-out with a colleague a few months back. He has (had now hehehehehe) an Apple iPhoney and I have my TyTN II....he ran for the hills dude!!!!!!!!

Show them Manila 2D
I wowed an iPhone user when I showed them my tilt with M2D running. What's up with youtube on iPhone looking like crap? LOL

kaiser VS. iphone
hey.
no dought. iphone is like a simple video game, and kaiser is like a small computer with all the posebilities-just think of one...
in every compresion i read, the kaiser took the iphone by far.
be proud to have a kaiser. a fantastic machine indeed. let the childrens play with their iphones

Are you expecting somebody to say "there was a guy with an iphone, and i pulled out my kaiser and showed him my latest program. his girlfriend left him for me and gave me a lot of money. then i asked him about copying and pasting and he grabbed his groin because my metaphorical kick actually caused him pain."

Funny, cbass.
No, but there is a joy to all of this. It's not about who's swinging the bigger stick. It's just that some iPhone owners are so ridiculous about their phones (while most of the iPhone owners I know already have either broken the screen or just traded them in.)
A buddy of mine lives 3000 miles away. I called him up to let him know I was visiting. Knowing he's a gadget geek, I asked if he had the new 3G iPhone. He did. He asked if I had it. I said "No, I bought the Tilt." He laughed and told me about three coworkers who bought Tilts and hated them. How ugly the screens were. How impractical. I kept my mouth shut knowing I had just put TouchFlo 2d on the Tilt and wanted to wait for him to see it in person. Now I have a buddy who is pissed he bought an iPhone.
P.S. I don't know where you guys bought your Kaisers. I bought mine from AT&T (refurbished, not that you could tell) for $150.

A horse that had just purchased an iPhone walked into a bar...bartender asked, "Why the long face?"
Thank you, thank you...
Just go to an iPhone owner, put your tilt up to their face, and ask, "Can your fancy phone DO THIS!!!" as you slide out the keyboard to the transformers sound they will have no other choice but to rip their garment apart and gnash their teeth in repentance...

This is the funniest thread ever!

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This is the funniest thread ever!
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iphone killer thread... should be stickied!!

No offense, but there is no comparison
I'm not saying iPhone is better, but that there really is no comparison.
The point of the iPhone is to be slick, simple, and easy to use. According to the vast user community, it meets those objectives. My VP buddy has the iPhone and so do most of the execs at our company now. The reason they like it is that it just "does what they want", and nothing more.
I tell the 1st buddy I mentioned about all the cool things my phone does, and he says "I don't need that". End of argument. I ask if this or that on the iPhone is configurable. He doesn't want to configure it.
When asked about the user interface, he says "They nailed it", meaning it is perfect. He doesn't need a slide-out keyboard, because the on-screen keyboard works just fine for him. No... He probably can't type as fast as I can on the Tilt, but he says "I don't need to type fast".
So there it is: The iPhone community (and it is growing) are guys that are not stupid.. their world just does not revolve around their phone as ours does. It isn't a toy to make better -- it is a tool.
An iPhone killer is a stripped down, simple, rudimentary version of the software I have now. It is so stripped down that it probably works a bit more reliably and a bit more spritely in responding to commands. It also has one more feature -- consistency of user interface. It can't "dump to the same old e-mail interface" when you just came off the slick screen. It still has to zoom and flip and do all that. iFonz was close, but the version I used wasn't very fast on the Kaiser. And to me (I'm one of you -- make no mistake) it didn't do all I wanted! (so I have to disqualify myself on that point... )
Someone should make that slick simple phone -- oh, they do --- but we wouldn't like it...
So it is about market. In my opinion, Apple knows how to mass market to people -- not engineers -- and HTC and MS know how to market to engineers. Unfortunately, people outnumber engineers by a considerable margin.

esnyder58 said:
I'm not saying iPhone is better, but that there really is no comparison.
The point of the iPhone is to be slick, simple, and easy to use. According to the vast user community, it meets those objectives. My VP buddy has the iPhone and so do most of the execs at our company now. The reason they like it is that it just "does what they want", and nothing more.
I tell the 1st buddy I mentioned about all the cool things my phone does, and he says "I don't need that". End of argument. I ask if this or that on the iPhone is configurable. He doesn't want to configure it.
When asked about the user interface, he says "They nailed it", meaning it is perfect. He doesn't need a slide-out keyboard, because the on-screen keyboard works just fine for him. No... He probably can't type as fast as I can on the Tilt, but he says "I don't need to type fast".
So there it is: The iPhone community (and it is growing) are guys that are not stupid.. their world just does not revolve around their phone as ours does. It isn't a toy to make better -- it is a tool.
An iPhone killer is a stripped down, simple, rudimentary version of the software I have now. It is so stripped down that it probably works a bit more reliably and a bit more spritely in responding to commands. It also has one more feature -- consistency of user interface. It can't "dump to the same old e-mail interface" when you just came off the slick screen. It still has to zoom and flip and do all that. iFonz was close, but the version I used wasn't very fast on the Kaiser. And to me (I'm one of you -- make no mistake) it didn't do all I wanted! (so I have to disqualify myself on that point... )
Someone should make that slick simple phone -- oh, they do --- but we wouldn't like it...
So it is about market. In my opinion, Apple knows how to mass market to people -- not engineers -- and HTC and MS know how to market to engineers. Unfortunately, people outnumber engineers by a considerable margin.
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Actually alot of them do revolve around there phones..... they are materialistic about it alot of times. if apple can put their name on it they will buy it.
I would have to say it is a opinion though. just over a year ago people were amazed when i had a phone with a touch screen. now they don't hardly make phones without them. People are used to having a phone that did only the basic functions and anything more than that is over whelming to them to have much more than simple.
Reguardless it really is an inteligence thing. people are intimidated by carrying around a computer in their pocket and yet i can tell them they are amazed everytme they see my phone after i have flashed a new rom "its like a having a new phone everytime" I've actually talked about 10 different people into gettng this phone in the last 6 months reguardsless that its "death" is schedulled at the end of this year. I'm maitaing a fleet of kaisers and training windows mobile users. They all were confused when they got them but about all you have to say is it runs just like windows and all the sudden it gets easier and easier.......
One thing i can say is noone i have ever talked to after i show them around to all the things they can do and how to use them have ever gone, "damn i shouldn't have gotten this phone." they all go off to flaunt it to their iphone friends.

app for menstrual cycle?

does anyone know if theres a freeware app for tracking menstrual cycles? just thought of tracking my girlfriends...

Step 1. make an entry in your calender for the last week and a half of every month.
Step 2. Anytime you see your wife/gf turn your body 180 degrees and walk the other way.

haha..but seriously

Use your calendar and reference this picture.
EASY.
http://www.fhi.org/pic/mencycle.gif

Bloody hell..

Good grief, don't you have any better things to do with your time than track your girlfriend's period???????????????

Find it
I find this cab, but I haven't tested yet … Give me a feed back if it's OK.

Hmm.
A Today Plug-in that makes your Kaiser moody and unresponsive one week out of every four. I dunno- the HTC drivers do a pretty good job of that already.

*amused*
Just told the g/f about this, and she looked at me with pure disgust

mayastig said:
does anyone know if theres a freeware app for tracking menstrual cycles? just thought of tracking my girlfriends...
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I'd just like to make a Grammar Statement.
If indeed you did mean to type "girlfriends" which is plural, and means more than one, than I can see why you'd want to track it.
But If you mean you wanted to track the cycle that belongs to your girlfriend, you need to type "girlfriend's." The apostrophe makes it possessive.

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well big lol
that prog of yours works the same like a calendar. only thing is when youre pushing like oct. 1 you will get a menu screen, which allows you the option to select in what period the girl is in, like dry,slightbleeding etc.
also you can select whether you can have sex with ur gf or not, or when do you need protection, or if she got cramps all sorts of stuff pretty funny actually^^ great find maybe im gonna buy it^^

First of all, Bloody hell is right
Secondly, LOL @ Girlfriends vs Girlfriend's
Third, WOW, it was odd enough that someone asked about that kind of software, but that someone else made it, thats just TFF.
I checked it out, pretty cool, even allows you to check off a day when she is PMSing (Which is just about every day)
But I think your gf would start wondering what was going on if you were taking her temp and giving her a mini-physical every day.

get the pill. i think its worth it. yasmine, recommended by doc with least side effects. PHP 680. there are cheaper but I'd rather not risk my wife's health.
I also tried to find an app but mostly not free.
>>oh yeah, I didn't know I'd be giving medical advice on xda devs.

There is a free app like this called My Girls. I think it's just java.

A straight answer pls
I understand this dudes pain. It sucks NOT KNOWING. Also.... if your trusting your wife/girlfriend then wtf are you thinking trusting a woman LOL. JK. Well personally I would like to see an app for this because i keep track with desktop software lol. Also.... can you guys pls not correct my grammar.... that's just ridiculous. Now....im gonna go buy a boxen of donuts ttyl.

man you mean this sort of thing doesnt happen every week?
Maybe I should keep track

for a moment i had this really crazy idea that women may visit this forum !!!
why not just ask ?, i can understand if your trying for a baby, remember some are irregular

Dear god, please stay on topic.....this thread is getting disturbing

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Dear god, please stay on topic.....this thread is getting disturbing
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This is true, Everyone please stay on topic. I understand how one could make light of this subject. And that's fine. Also, don't get too heavy. Keep it at a nice normal flow.

software, but not free
There is the software called LaFeme+. It's prety good, however it can only keep the info on 1 female specie. Also it has info on the body temp and different level of aggression Wright me PM - will help

Why are "devs" posting "test apps" to the market???

Jesus, there's like two or three of them a day now. Between all the "Don't download this, I'm just testing" apps and those ****ty $5 apps by Khalid Shaikh the market is rapidly going down the toilet.
Really y'all, stop that. Just sayin.

I can see why they'd publish them. I can't, however, see why they leave them for more than 5 minutes. On my first publish I did exactly that. Tested to make sure that I could do it properly, and that it could download and install properly. Of course, I published my finished app and not a test version... I agree though...

yah i hate it. especially since google's plan is for a user managed market place.

That Khalid Shaikh is getting annoying with his lame apps indeed.

I have to agree with you guys. True, its a user-managed market, but I think users really ought to realize that if they want a good market, they gotta put up good apps! I don't want to be hating on Shaikh, considering he actually knows how to make apps and has the SDK environment all setup and I have absolutely no idea how, just, he really oughta do a quality check.

I can understand as a developer wanting to get your apps on the market asap to have all of your hard work recognized. But yeah, releasing apps before they're at least usable and pretty stable does nothing but hurt your reputation. You only get the "Sort by date" promotion once. I made that mistake on my first app..

You only get the "Sort by date" promotion once.
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So true... And if you waste that opportunity with unfinished work (particularly more than one unfinished work) you can really screw up acceptance of future works... Oh well, i guess that's up to those devs, I just wish I could weed them out of my view.

Right, why dont we just have Market Sections specifically for things like test apps, and fart apps, so we dont hafta sit there and freakin look through an infinite list of fart apps to find anything good? I mean, seriously, there should be some kinda category besides "Apps" and "Games on the main market page that you can lump all those LAME, annoying, USELESS apps into so that serious android users dont hafta filter through fifty fart apps to see decent work by serious devs...we should Just have a category called "Nonsense Apps", and all those apps should be kept separately from the regular apps section so you can browse through frickin fart apps all day long if thats what floats your boat, but if you actually wanna find something USEFUL, all that nosense crap will get filtered out...And honestly, its freakin 2009, people, there are Gays and Lesbians everywhere, openly expressing themselves as such, theres a black man running the white house...and somehow FARTS ARE STILL FUNNY?! I guess i didnt get the memo, cuz if i wanted to laugh at a fart id just fart, considering that the human anatomy is a generator of such sounds...why waste all that effort writing a program that makes fart sounds, when you can jusr rip one whenever, and its WAY funnier than a stupid phone app, cuz ppl can actually smell it...so what is the problem with all these moron devs that come out actin like they didnt know anyone else had put out a fart app? I agree with OP...JUST STOP IT...

Memo to bmfc187. Farts will always br funny. Fart apps, on the other hand, are pretty lame.
No farts were ripped during the creation of this reply.
/Liar

They do have a demo section for random bullcrap like this.
-bZj

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Memo to bmfc187. Farts will always br funny. Fart apps, on the other hand, are pretty lame.
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I'm not sayin i cant appreciate a good rip, but why go to all that trouble to digitize a fart sound that your own body already makes naturally, knowing full well that your little sound machine could NEVER reproduce the funk from those Supreme Burritos i had last nite at El Tapatio...
-BMFC

Right on, the G1 speaker doesn't seem to have enough "low-end" sound to do a good rip justice.
I must confess, I did get a kick out of one of the apps that let me put a fart alarm on my phone when anyone moved it. My girlfriend wanted to kill me after I set it and went to the mens room at Outback. Guess she moved it when the waitress brought out my salad, aanf well, many lols were had at her expense.

I sent an email to Jay at Cyrket.com to see if he'd be willing to do anything to allow us to apply filters to the data provided by his site. In the mean time, I set up a Yahoo Pipe for myself that filters out all apps with the words theme, skin, fart, or soundboard.

My "big idea" being an interface to the market which uses allows for very customizable seort and filter settings. Of course the actual market app would be used for purchases/downloads. This would only be a market browser.

It would be nice if we had the option to filter out certain developers (IndiaNIC, LLC and Khalid Sheikh) who are flooding the market with nonsense that obviously isn't selling.

ryan75: My Pipe does that.

The main problem with the Pipe approach though is that it's a work-around and as such is limited. Particularly in the case of sorting... You have to get all of the data first before you can reliably sort it, that can take a really long time with Pipes.

These developers should just provide links to themes, comics and icon packs etc. Test apps should go in the demo section. Finding 50 comics/books/storys/bs or themes or icons a day is friggin annoying. The farts I can deal with because there aren't 50 a day.

Letting out your Inner Geek... How we do.

From time to time, I find myself looking around and wondering "Why did I do that?", "What am I going to do with THIS gadget", and "OMG! *drool*". Yes, I did say it. Now you can too!
I've taken the next few minutes to sit here and let you guys see how I let my inner geek out. This picture was taken in August of this year after I added another two devices to my list. As you can tell below, I've got a good collection going. I'm always looking to add more, but I'm a bit of a cheapskate.
Originally, the idea was for me to start developing ROMs for each of the devices I had. Using the wonderful kitchen tools I've found, including the multi-device support ones, I was so happy to start...and then stop. I found myself becoming uninterested in developing ROMs, but kept collecting. Of course, this has caused some financial heart ship, but you know what, it's still sweet.
So, I say to you, this is my inner geek, his name is Steve, and he's getting out...
Special note: For those of you wanting to help me add to my collection, I accept Donations.
-John

wow..great man...im thinking of being like you too... i just have 4 device now in my collection... where is your wing by the way?

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where is your wing by the way?
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It's out on-loan to my girlfriend. She's using it as her GPS (with a BT GPS, of course). It lets her get out an explore without making me sit there and say "Turn Right Ahead".. I think I may switch it over to one of the Uni's before much longer though. She keeps complaining about the screen size... *sighs*

Wow!!
That´s a huge collection!!
Lol

Cool collection You should open up the 1st PPC Museum

If we look dispassionately at all our devices, lots of them look pretty much like each other and they are really quite ugly indeed! No designer worth their salt would sign their names on any of them, including the iThingies in my opinion.
But we can love the ugly anyway. That is probably a consolation to most! Lol! We probably look past their skin and see through their windows into their souls.
Would this be a reflexion of our souls? Through the looking glass...

Impressive...
I see a single, lonely, ass-broke virgin still living in their parent's basement...yet...what is this feeling of covetousness?---Curse you Perry the Platypus!!
Wait...picture no. 2, second iPhone...is that a Panda????

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I see a single, lonely, ass-broke virgin still living in their parent's basement...yet...what is this feeling of covetousness?---Curse you Perry the Platypus!!
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See the below attached photo. I may be broke, but I got a woman, and we got a place.
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Wait...picture no. 2, second iPhone...is that a Panda????
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Second iPhone is a 3G 8GB. First is a 3GS 32GB. Mostly using the second iPhone as a dev device to test the stuff I try to create. Needless to say, it's not going well. I keep two devices on me, and active, at any given time. Right now, they're the iPhone 3GS and the AT&T Fuze/HTC Touch Pro. The Athena stays in the car ready for GPS Nav. The Kaiser sits in the bag I carry my netbook in as a backup (as I've just recently gotten backup batteries for my TP/Fuze). The Hermes goes for the ride in the bag sometimes, but stays at home sometimes too. Most of the others stay at home more than anywhere else...

I meant that here looks to be a reflection of a panda...Nice to hav backups of backups for your stuff...
By the way, your photoshopping skillz are fantastic!!! lol...

Windows 6.5 features on HD7

First of all you will have to either know WM6.5 like the back of your hand and use the calender feature with it, or have a WM6.5 phone available to change stuff and see what I'm talking about to answer this question.
I had a Touch Pro 2 TMOUS. I hate SENSE because one, it looked like a kids toy and I'm an adult and two, boy did it drain some battery life, and three, taking it off gave me exactly what I wanted in a phone.
I'm a simple business man and I send a few hundred texts a day, get emails, and use outlook to sync my calendar stuff. Now.....
If you go into the home screen options and turn "sense" off and then turn on message notifications, and date, and calendar. then you will have what I have been looking at for almost 2 years now, and I love it. With this configuration all emails and texts and anything else all show up on the same one line so it takes up as little space as possible and THE MOST IMPORTANT THING all my calendar info appears on the home screen in a nice no nonsense list form with block letters in normal print. I miss that the most.
I would put WM6.5 on my new HD7 just for that alone. but I'm hoping someone out there knows what I'm talking about and can give me a solution or an idea. And if someone suggests to buy a HD2 I'll just hunt you down and slice your throat lol. I do not have an HD2, I have an HD7, get over yourself, and do not wast my time with asinine comments like that.
all I want, is that format like the WM6.5. Simple and small block letters with one line for all notifications and the rest of the screen free for a no nonsense small print, block letter form, list configuration for my calendar items.
I have a full time job, full time kids, full time wife, and full time "Grace Jiu-Jitsu" hobby/business, and a full time life. At any given day I could have 3 or 15 calendar reminders for that day between childrens Dr. appointments, aniverseries, querterly car check ups, meetings with cliants, trash day tomorrow, kids games, shopping for food, multiple private lessons that day, etc etc etc etc.
Very busy life and the simple fact is I can not remember it all in my head. I need this. and I need my calendar to be on my home screen constantly every day so it's always in my face so I don't miss anything that day. If there is a theme that makes your home screen just like that, just like the WM6.5 optional home screen that would be perfect.
Does anyone know how to help me with this? And yes I actually have considered just getting the HD2, but I thought I would start here first and then work my way toward spending money to solve the problem.

Don't buy WP7. Maybe there's an Android Widget that'll do what you need.
I think you already know Live Tiles aren't going to do what you want.
There are plenty of Android Forums on the net.

You could buy a HD2 lol
But unless someone finds a way to remove the metro hub i dout it, and before anyone can look at getting 6.5 on these we would need a hard spl first

I'm sorry, but if your Touch Pro2 did everything you wanted, then why would you change devices? Stick with the Touch Pro2. Its still a very viable device and according to you it did what you wanted.
The HTC HD7 and Windows Phone 7, at this point in time, cannot do what you have found the Touch Pro2 can do. They are two different phones, with completely different platforms. Both these platforms go in different directions, so you'll probably just want to stick with the platform that works for you.
Windows Phone 7 does not have themes (aside from dark, light, and your accent color), or multiple home screens, or have anything from Windows Phone 6.5 built into it at all. So you just aren't going to get the same functionality. Windows Phone 7 does have a great calendar, but it does not function the exact same as you seem to be describing (although pinning the calendar to the home screen always shows you your very next appointment).

But in all honesty what makes you think suggesting an HD2 is so terrible? You clearly want a business phone, and although WP7 has the office suite, it certainly isn't (and has never been advertised as) a business phone. The market WP7 has been pointed at is pretty much the same market as the iphone market. People who want to watch films on there phone, listen to music, and just generally get things done without wasting time.
If you rely on the features you've stated so much, i hate to say it but you've made a terrible decision in investing in what is essentially a brand new OS.
I think someone needs to get over themselves, but it certainly isn't the person/people who suggest you get a HD2.

So.. My calendar live tile serves me exactly as you state. I see the most recent appt on the tile itself. Tapping said tile takes me to all appointments for that day.
WP7 (not WM7), is nothing like WM6.5.
Ironically, the answer anyone here would give you, is to buy an HD2. They're by and large the same phone, and there are those that would argue the HD2 is better.
However, WP7 is light years ahead of WM6.5, imo. I've got 20 of them in a business and very few people complain. The platform isn't even a half year old.
"I do not have an HD2, I have an HD7, get over yourself, and do not wast my time with asinine comments like that."
You're lucky anyone took the time to respond to you at all. However, given you work with Gracie Jiu Jitsu, you attitude is more or less expected.

Thats a long ass message for such a busy guy Mr. BJJ. Learn something before asking for help in such a demanding fashion in this forum. And dont be so silly as to act like you are the only one with a smart phone who can fight.
What you want isnt possible on WP7. Why not sell it on eBay and buy an HD2? lol

Ok, let's try to answer in order.
Yes, this would not be the first time in my life the word "abrasive" has been used to describe me, but I find most people who do a ton of things all at once all the time are like that. too many people out there want to waste your time so you loose a lot of normal people patience. my apologies.
The reason for my words is because I've been a member here for some years now and know better than to post without reading and searching first. I have read all threads for the HD7, so I already knew what people would say. That's why I preemptively mentioned the HD2. I have already read everything.
That does not mean I am a developer or know anything, it just means I took the time not to be annoying by posting things that have already been posted. As such, I already knew the kinds of responses I would get such as "Get an HD2" and "just get a phone with WM6.5" and "why get a HD7?"
That's why I stated that I don't want to hear about the HD2 (because I already know) and stated that I already have an HD7 (to avoid people say "don't get an HD7.") etc. etc.
There is nothing terrible about the HD2, I think it sounds great, but that is not what I have, nor what my question was about, and wanted to avoid hearing about what I already knew and had read.
Anyway....the reason I get the HD7 and did not stick with my Touch Pro 2 is because I have gone through (3) TP2s all because I have pretty much mangled the keyboards over time.....that gets expensive...I looked into the problem and other people who are having the same problem all said to get a touch screen phone and those problems would go away, because it did for all of them. so of course I looked at the HD2 and the HD7 to compare and guess which one still had (4) hard buttons to potentially mangle and which one did not.....HD7. See, all my answers are logical as I am a logical person. No nonsense.
unfortunately.......you guys have all answered my questions just as I feared. so now, yes, I will be cregslisting my HD7 and yes, I will be getting an HD2.
And to the person who said "Thats a long ass message for such a busy guy" Just remember.....anything worth doing, is worth doing right. Why bother posting a half as question when most likely it will only yield half ass answers. My thoroughness has caused you guys to better understand me and there for better answer my question. If anything......you should take note

I have my HD2 right here next to my HD7 and I must say.....the HD2 wins on so many levels. cregslist this HD7 goes!
BECAUSE IT'S A USELESS OS AND PHONE! (who doesn't love a little flaming )

Good stuff and good luck with the hd2 mate.
If only those other few HD7 owners who litter the forums with "I don't like the OS" posts would take note of your logic and understanding. I suppose that day will come when a Pig travels by my upstairs window...

Don`t get what all the fuss is about. My calendar is pretty busy (at least 3 or 4 entries a day, sometimes many more)
Next appt appears on lock screen. Unlock the phone and there is is again on my calendar livetile.
Both me and the wife use google calendar so thats on another live tile so a single press takes me into my wifes calendar.
Loads better (IMO) to WM6.5 which I came from.
Once the Calendar API gets opened up, expect to see all sorts of applications to augment these functions.