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Hi guys, I'm getting a z1 tomorrow
Should I get c6902 or c6903 ? I don't need 4g but I want a device that has many mods/ ROMs. That's all I need.. Second, what is lb and UB ROM? Third I want to install ROM on new device, the steps of installing ROM is something I don't understand.. My experience with grouper nexus 7, unlocked it, flashed it.. But z1, how to do that? Can someone explain basics to me?
bsmstar said:
Hi guys, I'm getting a z1 tomorrow
Should I get c6902 or c6903 ? I don't need 4g but I want a device that has many mods/ ROMs. That's all I need.. Second, what is lb and UB ROM? Third I want to install ROM on new device, the steps of installing ROM is something I don't understand.. My experience with grouper nexus 7, unlocked it, flashed it.. But z1, how to do that? Can someone explain basics to me?
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- depends. Is your device that you've ordered support LTE? If yes, then you'll get C6903
- LB = Locked boot loader. A state where you can't flash custom kernel
- UB = Unlocked boot loader. A state where you've unlock your boot loader, so you can flash custom kernel.
- which steps?
- there's ROM which can be flashed even your bootloader still locked. So, it depends on what ROM you wanna use.
omegahanggara said:
- depends. Is your device that you've ordered support LTE? If yes, then you'll get C6903
- LB = Locked boot loader. A state where you can't flash custom kernel
- UB = Unlocked boot loader. A state where you've unlock your boot loader, so you can flash custom kernel.
- which steps?
- there's ROM which can be flashed even your bootloader still locked. So, it depends on what ROM you wanna use.
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OK thanks for replying , so let's see.. How can I flash monxdified on a completely new device? I think the device is c9602 since I don't see a 4g on the package..
What is the best custom for this device? What's new on Sony kitkat ? Can we have it for Christmas eve?
bsmstar said:
OK thanks for replying , so let's see.. How can I flash monxdified on a completely new device? I think the device is c9602 since I don't see a 4g on the package..
What is the best custom for this device? What's new on Sony kitkat ? Can we have it for Christmas eve?
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1. Backup your TA partition (just in case you want to roll back to 4.2.2, and get back your DRM key)
2. Check for updates using OTA or Sony PC Companion
3. If there's update to 4.3, apply the updates
4. Before we step further, I wanna ask you, do you wanna keep your bootloader unlocked?
Well. We don't know when exactly 4.4 update is available. Let's hope we'll get this in December.
Hi
For me it doesn't matter if BL locked or not, I read there is no problem in that in 4.3 regarding camera issues.. But I have zero knowledge on how to deal with rooting and flashing the z1.. Im not going back to 4.2 for me its either aosp 4.4 or Sony ui 4.3. As I said I have zero knowledge so if you can elaborate more about how to do it that would be highly appreciated
hi
so i got the c6903 now... i cant root it and i dunno why
its running on 4.2.2 .257 fw official
i tried vroot it didnt work and 360 root cant be installed it says chinese only os.. how to do that now?
you have to downgrade to 534 to root
bsmstar said:
hi
so i got the c6903 now... i cant root it and i dunno why
its running on 4.2.2 .257 fw official
i tried vroot it didnt work and 360 root cant be installed it says chinese only os.. how to do that now?
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There is no better way than follow this steps on Page 2, Post #16 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588331&page=2
No body here was clever at the first time so just read carefully. This is the only way to get the full root on your device.
If this help click on thanks.
Well, I found that out through YouTube.. I downgraded my c6903 to 534 fw and rooted it, installed the recovery dual and flashed ihackers 2.1 , yes I did ta backup but I didn't unlock the bootloader. I dunno what's the benefit of doing so, although I emailed Sony and I got the unlock code on my email as they replied... I'm only missing an app that control the led color of notifications led and Google now since I'm not in the US region.. That used to work fine on 4.2.2 but no worries.. Thanks guys. You really helped me a lot and I think this is a great device, I have been using it since Tuesday. And I rooted and flashed it this morning. One problem is that I dunno how to enter recovery so I flashed the ROM right after I flashed the recovery.. I understand now that there is a flashable zip? Things are much easier with the nexus line
bsmstar said:
I understand now that there is a flashable zip?
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All the FTF have to be flashed on your device via Flashtool v0.9.13 compatible with your device and they are not zip. Recovery is in zip and all what you flash from recovery is in zip file.
Yeah I did that.. It had 257 fw, I flashed 534 with flashtool then I rooted by vroot, then ta backup with some bat file through computer and USB debugging, then installed recovery by bat file as well, which rebooted to recovery, I did factory reset/wipe, and flashed aroma ihackers 2.1 without custom kernel then switched off and flashed baseband and kernel by flashtool and rebooted, done..
Just like that. And you should be the one without knowledge?
Well, I put my mind to it.. And when I do that I usually succeed... But I still have unanswered questions, like what are the benefits of unlocking bootloader? How can I control led light color for different applications notifications.. I tried light flow and illumination bar, both didn't work.. Lastly I haven't got used to the camera ui as I haven't used it much and I already applied xposed 20 mp mod.. Lastly,, I like to thank you for all your attention and care and everything ... I really appreciated it
as i know the unlockbootloader is the only way to flash custom karnels.
i dont know mutch more then that, just switched from ios so i'm new to this.
I forgot to backup my TA does that make an issue and if, what kind?
sorry for thread steeling
bsmstar said:
But I still have unanswered questions, like what are the benefits of unlocking bootloader?
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Like @stianly said Unlocking Bootlader is needed to flash custom kernels only.
bsmstar said:
How can I control led light color for different applications notifications.. I tried light flow and illumination bar, both didn't work..
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I read somewhere on XDA about that. EDIT: Try Gravity Box Xposed
stianly said:
as i know the unlockbootloader is the only way to flash custom karnels.
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Right.
stianly said:
I forgot to backup my TA does that make an issue and if, what kind?
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Yes, it's a problem, without TA you lost your DRM keys permanently which are needed to re-lock your bootlader. You also lost the warranty of you device definitely.
yea i know the waranty and drm
but what does the drm keys do i lose some functions?
stianly said:
yea i know the waranty and drm
but what does the drm keys do i lose some functions?
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Yes, Bionz, X-Reality and probably Bravia Engine or something like that but your phone still working properly. Some users do not notice the difference with or without this features.
Ok I tried gravity box, can't find notifications led settings... Can you be more specific on this? Thanks...
bsmstar said:
Ok I tried gravity box, can't find notifications led settings... Can you be more specific on this? Thanks...
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Sorry, at the moment I don't have my phone so iI can't check for you but Gravity should have some options for that but maybe it's not the solution, I know it's possible, when I will know more something for your problem I will post.
OK thanks
Hey guys,
I have one or two questions I cant seem to find a definitive answer for.
I currently have a Z1 locked to my local O2 network. They still haven't release any updates past 4.2.2.
I was wondering would it be possible to flash a Sony Stock Factory Image so that future OTA updates would come from Sony and not through my carrier?
I was looking at this ROM here. So Root the phone, flash the ROM and then remove root.
Some might say why not root, unlock etc. but the to be honest I have done my fair share of trying different ROM's on different phones, throughout the years and I just love how stable the phone is and how good the battery life is that I just don't want to mess around with it too much.
Dave
You already messing around. That link which you posted is a method to root your phone and if you do not want to root it then is not the right thread. To update your phone to latest FW you have to flash the Unbranded Firmware .136 for your model from HERE
Use flashtool v0.9.13 to do that, wipe everything and you are done. This is for Locked Bootloader and you will also get next Updates when they comes.
eclyptos said:
You already messing around. That link which you posted is a method to root your phone and if you do not want to root it then is not the right thread. To update your phone to latest FW you have to flash the Unbranded Firmware .136 for your model from HERE
Use flashtool v0.9.13 to do that, wipe everything and you are done. This is for Locked Bootloader and you will also get next Updates when they comes.
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Its as simple as that? I might give it a shot this evening so when I get home.
davkav said:
Its as simple as that? I might give it a shot this evening so when I get home.
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Yes, it's simple because you just want the latest Firmware only, No Root, No Unlocked Bootlader.
One last question, if I flash the latest UK version which is .290 will I receive OTA or PC Companion updates as soon as .136 is out for the UK version?
davkav said:
One last question, if I flash the latest UK version which is .290 will I receive OTA or PC Companion updates as soon as .136 is out for the UK version?
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Yes
harfot said:
Yes
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Brilliant, Thanks!
Hi ya'll
I bought a Xperia Z1 second hand on eBay and found that even though its stock ROM and bootloader is locked - its rooted with some dodgy chinese superuser app. It is running 4.2.2 and keeps saying update available but it keeps failing when I try to install an OTA update that seems to be available.
1. Is it failing cause its rooted?
2. How do I unroot it so I will get the 4.3 OTA?
Thanks in advance.
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syl0n said:
Hi ya'll
I bought a Xperia Z1 second hand on eBay and found that even though its stock ROM and bootloader is locked - its rooted with some dodgy chinese superuser app. It is running 4.2.2 and keeps saying update available but it keeps failing when I try to install an OTA update that seems to be available.
1. Is it failing cause its rooted?
2. How do I unroot it so I will get the 4.3 OTA?
Thanks in advance.
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Yes you can't update via OTA if it's rooted. grab a ftf in one of the firmware threads on here for the Z1 and do it manually.
syl0n said:
Hi ya'll
I bought a Xperia Z1 second hand on eBay and found that even though its stock ROM and bootloader is locked - its rooted with some dodgy chinese superuser app. It is running 4.2.2 and keeps saying update available but it keeps failing when I try to install an OTA update that seems to be available.
1. Is it failing cause its rooted?
2. How do I unroot it so I will get the 4.3 OTA?
Thanks in advance.
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Use flashtool to flash a stock rom
Thanks for the quick responses. Do i grab a 4.3 FTF file or 4.2.2? If I grab 4.3 will my bootloader unlock camera fix not get installed? Is that installed via OTA only?
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Thanks for the quick responses. Do i grab a 4.3 FTF file or 4.2.2? If I grab 4.3 will my bootloader unlock camera fix not get installed? Is that installed via OTA only?
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get 4.3. the 4.3 fixed the camera issues I heard.
technostein said:
get 4.3. the 4.3 fixed the camera issues I heard.
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Yes but are issues only fixed if i OTA it? or will they be fixed if i flash it via flashtool.
technostein said:
Yes you can't update via OTA if it's rooted. grab a ftf in one of the firmware threads on here for the Z1 and do it manually.
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Actually no, OTA still works even on rooted phones. That's how people can have root on 4.3 firmware with locked boot loader - they get the root on 4.2 and then update it via OTA. I did it myself, so I'm sure it works this way.
Seems like OP has different issue.
Still, solution is flashing an ftf, yeah.
OTA definitely works on rooted phones. Try installing SuperSU from the playstore, that will get rid of the chinese spam, then run the update again. if that fails just go for Flashtool. good luck!
syl0n said:
Yes but are issues only fixed if i OTA it? or will they be fixed if i flash it via flashtool.
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Yes they will be fixed with flashtool.
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syl0n said:
Hi ya'll
I bought a Xperia Z1 second hand on eBay and found that even though its stock ROM and bootloader is locked - its rooted with some dodgy chinese superuser app. It is running 4.2.2 and keeps saying update available but it keeps failing when I try to install an OTA update that seems to be available.
1. Is it failing cause its rooted?
2. How do I unroot it so I will get the 4.3 OTA?
Thanks in advance.
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So how are you getting along? Everything work out?
sent from the extraordinary 1
slim207rc said:
So how are you getting along? Everything work out?
sent from the extraordinary 1
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Yeah. I ended up flashing 4.2.2 then got the OTA update. Now running CM11. Had a scary moment where I flashed TWRP from a thread here into the boot partition and I got the red blink of death, but must have been the wrong recovery to flash.
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Yeah. I ended up flashing 4.2.2 then got the OTA update. Now running CM11. Had a scary moment where I flashed TWRP from a thread here into the boot partition and I got the red blink of death, but must have been the wrong recovery to flash.
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Ok, then.everything worked well then.. Enjoy your roms
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I have rooted my Z1 many times without problem, first downgraded to .534, root with Bin4ry's root tool, then flash the .zip file from recovery and flash stripped .ftf with FlashTool.
By rooting this way I can keep my bootloader locked.
A couple of weeks ago I had to send my phone for repairs when the call speaker gave up and they changed the mainboard (new IMEI).
After this I can not downgrade to .534 anymore! It will stuck at a bootloop, with only the Sony logo showing. Downgrading to .257 (the version after .534) is no problem though.
I have tried many different .534 tft-files, including NUT's.
Any ideas? Could this new mainboard be incompatible with the oldest firmwares? Sounds unlikely to me.
Thanks!
dape16 said:
I have rooted my Z1 many times without problem, first downgraded to .534, root with Bin4ry's root tool, then flash the .zip file from recovery and flash stripped .ftf with FlashTool.
By rooting this way I can keep my bootloader locked.
A couple of weeks ago I had to send my phone for repairs when the call speaker gave up and they changed the mainboard (new IMEI).
After this I can not downgrade to .534 anymore! It will stuck at a bootloop, with only the Sony logo showing. Downgrading to .257 (the version after .534) is no problem though.
I have tried many different .534 tft-files, including NUT's.
Any ideas? Could this new mainboard be incompatible with the oldest firmwares? Sounds unlikely to me.
Thanks!
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If it's incompatible with 534 then i'd be surprised, my guess is that it's a dodgy download and you should re-download the FTF file or an alternative and make sure it's the only thing that your computer is doing at the time, even check the MD5 checksum if it's available.
Are you flashing the full FTF file when downgrading and allowing for a wipe?
Only problem i've had when downgrading is losing the IMEI but after you've rooted , installed a custom recovery and installed a custom rom that'll come back anyway.
dladz said:
If it's incompatible with 534 then i'd be surprised, my guess is that it's a dodgy download and you should re-download the FTF file or an alternative and make sure it's the only thing that your computer is doing at the time, even check the MD5 checksum if it's available.
Are you flashing the full FTF file when downgrading and allowing for a wipe?
Only problem i've had when downgrading is losing the IMEI but after you've rooted , installed a custom recovery and installed a custom rom that'll come back anyway.
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Thanks, yes I have tried with 5 different .534 ftf-files, all of them resulting in this bootloop. I am doing a full flash with wipe. Downgrading to .257 is working fine though, but then I cant root.
I am running out of ideas
dape16 said:
Thanks, yes I have tried with 5 different .534 ftf-files, all of them resulting in this bootloop. I am doing a full flash with wipe. Downgrading to .257 is working fine though, but then I cant root.
I am running out of ideas
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Are you branded? What model is the phone C6903? C6902?
don't forget the obvious stones
dladz said:
Are you branded? What model is the phone C6903? C6902?
don't forget the obvious stones
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It's not branded. No SIM-lock, Generic_NCB customization. C6903.
Now I have tried with older versions of FlashTool and I tried other USB-ports too, but no success. Newer firmwares then .534 flashes just fine.
dape16 said:
It's not branded. No SIM-lock, Generic_NCB customization. C6903.
Now I have tried with older versions of FlashTool and I tried other USB-ports too, but no success. Newer firmwares then .534 flashes just fine.
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Which version of flashtool are you using currently? I've found that some firmwares just don't like the older flashtools.
What about different USB cables? Shouldn't make any difference but I thought I'd ask. I find it odd the way it'll work for newer but not older firmwares, perhaps someone else should chime in with an idea.
I'm all out, as this isn't something i've come across and everything i'd try myself i've told you.
dladz said:
Which version of flashtool are you using currently? I've found that some firmwares just don't like the older flashtools.
What about different USB cables? Shouldn't make any difference but I thought I'd ask. I find it odd the way it'll work for newer but not older firmwares, perhaps someone else should chime in with an idea.
I'm all out, as this isn't something i've come across and everything i'd try myself i've told you.
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Thanks for your help.
Now I have tried with another computer and another USB-cable, and also tried to flash the older .526 and .518 firmwares. Tried FlashTool 0.9.1.6 and .5 and .4.
Same result.
Seems very strange that this new mainboard should not be compatible with these firmwares?
dape16 said:
Thanks for your help.
Now I have tried with another computer and another USB-cable, and also tried to flash the older .526 and .518 firmwares. Tried FlashTool 0.9.1.6 and .5 and .4.
Same result.
Seems very strange that this new mainboard should not be compatible with these firmwares?
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It does seem strange and i'm pretty much out of ideas myself for you m8. Mad one that.
dladz said:
It does seem strange and i'm pretty much out of ideas myself for you m8. Mad one that.
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Thanks anyway, I hope somebody else has an idea
dape16 said:
Thanks anyway, I hope somebody else has an idea
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click thanks dude,
Hope you work it out
Just had a thought, can't you now root later firmwares?
dladz said:
click thanks dude,
Hope you work it out
Just had a thought, can't you now root later firmwares?
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I dont think it is possible to root any firmware later then .534? Not without unlocking bootloader?
dape16 said:
I dont think it is possible to root any firmware later then .534? Not without unlocking bootloader?
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yes it is, any 4.2 FW can be rooted
Its just that 534 can be done using [NUT]s installation of dual recovery
gregbradley said:
yes it is, any 4.2 FW can be rooted
Its just that 534 can be done using [NUT]s installation of dual recovery
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Thanks, but I have tried both vroot and Bin4ry's root tool on .257. Didn't work. Is there any other method for rooting?
Edit: Sorry, didn't see the link in your signature, will try that.
dape16 said:
Thanks, but I have tried both vroot and Bin4ry's root tool on .257. Didn't work. Is there any other method for rooting?
Edit: Sorry, didn't see the link in your signature, will try that.
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DO NOT USE VROOT!!!!
It send your IMEI number to an IP address in china..
I cant believe people still do not know this
gregbradley said:
DO NOT USE VROOT!!!!
It send your IMEI number to an IP address in china..
I cant believe people still do not know this
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Well, I tried vroot because it is in the first posts in the "Ultimate Xperia Z1 Guide" sticky thread.
Since I have always used Bin4ry's tool, I guess I have not noticed any thread about vroot being dangerous.
gregbradley said:
yes it is, any 4.2 FW can be rooted
Its just that 534 can be done using [NUT]s installation of dual recovery
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Right now I have .257 firmware flashed which is a 4.2.2.
I have tried to root with Bin4ry, vroot, Kingo, and [NUT]s recovery, but it is not possible.
Everywhere I look people say that it is a must to downgrade to .534 when rooting with a locked bootloader.
What have I missed?
Thanks,
257 was the first one that closed that exploit, you have to go back further.
I know you say 534 does not flash for you, but what error does flashtool give?
gregbradley said:
257 was the first one that closed that exploit, you have to go back further.
I know you say 534 does not flash for you, but what error does flashtool give?
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Thank you, I misunderstood an thought .257 was rootable too.
No error in Flashtool, flashes fine but is stuck on bootloop with Sony logo.
Tried .518, .526 and .534
make sure you do not exclude any part of the FTF and wipe everything,
Can you get a log from the phone?
Make sure you backup and clean your sdcard (So there is no trace of recovery files on there)
gregbradley said:
make sure you do not exclude any part of the FTF and wipe everything,
Can you get a log from the phone?
Make sure you backup and clean your sdcard (So there is no trace of recovery files on there)
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I have cleaned the internal sdcard and tried without external sdcard and simcard.
Don't think it is possible to get a log file from the phone while in bootloop?
If my new mainboard is incompatible with .534 and older, I guess other users would have the same problem?
http://www.sonymobile.com/in/software/phones/xperia-zr/
Any region receiving this update?
Nothing major in changelog, seems most of the changes are under the hood.
283
Android version: Google Android 4.4 (Kitkat)
Latest available software: 10.5.1.A.0.283
Release started: 2014-09-09
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priyank07 said:
http://www.sonymobile.com/in/software/phones/xperia-zr/
Any region receiving this update?
Nothing major in changelog, seems most of the changes are under the hood.
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I wonder how long ZR users have to wait.
Last time we waited more than a month right?
Excellent!!
ajeesh.m said:
I wonder how long ZR users have to wait.
Last time we waited more than a month right?
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Yeah, Indian version was delayed by a month or so.
But I guess some regions haven't even received the 4.4.2 update yet.
Just got the Update Notice (C5502) via PCC here in Taiwan. But it failed to move forward after software download... Will give it another try later...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...ia-zr-c5502-android-4-4-t2872227/post55342651
Sorry to be a noob, here. But will I have to unroot my phone to get it via OTA or even if I had to flash it via flashtool?
nbrian2012 said:
Sorry to be a noob, here. But will I have to unroot my phone to get it via OTA or even if I had to flash it via flashtool?
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No need to unroot. You will get the update even if rooted.
But if you have unlocked the bootloader, you will have to relock it.
not yet on Indian c5502 XZRs
Carl Shaw said:
Just got the Update Notice (C5502) via PCC here in Taiwan. But it failed to move forward after software download... Will give it another try later...
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it's the same in hungary with my C5503 ...
ajeesh.m said:
No need to unroot. You will get the update even if rooted.
But if you have unlocked the bootloader, you will have to relock it.
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I also have unlocked bootloader . Do I need to lock it before flashing with Flashtools , and TW 4.4.4 ?
gavranpero said:
I also have unlocked bootloader . Do I need to lock it before flashing with Flashtools , and TW 4.4.4 ?
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No, just flash normally. If you know how to.
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I flashed it and now I lost root. Damn. Waiting for towelroot to update
Is this ZR's last update?
Since this update is released 18 months after ZR entered the market, is it the final firmware?
micheldjerzinski said:
Since this update is released 18 months after ZR entered the market, is it the final firmware?
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Probably Yes.
Unless Sony decides to be generous enough to provide us 5.0 update. But the chances are bleak.
nbrian2012 said:
Sorry to be a noob, here. But will I have to unroot my phone to get it via OTA or even if I had to flash it via flashtool?
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During the previous migration to 4.4.2 I got the notification and was able to download the 250 something MB OTA but it failed to install. Had to do it with PC Companion.
Towelroot but locked bootloader.
sling-shot said:
During the previous migration to 4.4.2 I got the notification and was able to download the 250 something MB OTA but it failed to install. Had to do it with PC Companion.
Towelroot but locked bootloader.
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I flashed the update via flashtool and lost my root Towelrooted, but the developer has stopped developing and now he works for Google. So no more updates. Will have to wait for a proper root in a few weeks now.
nbrian2012 said:
I flashed the update via flashtool and lost my root Towelrooted, but the developer has stopped developing and now he works for Google. So no more updates. Will have to wait for a proper root in a few weeks now.
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thanks for the info about towelroot. now I will create pre rooted firmware flashable zip to keep root
sourabhp said:
thanks for the info about towelroot. now I will create pre rooted firmware flashable zip to keep root
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You can? Great!
Missing the KitKat SD Card fix, which I had while I was rooted on the 10.5.A.230 firmware. Thanks a ton, in advance
From 4.3: Do I need to upgrade to 4.4.2 first or will I receive 4.4.4 directly?