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I've been using my Touch Diamond for a couple of days now, and just read about the lens protector that apparently needs to be removed in order to take decent pictures.
Now I find, that it is impossible for me to remove the back cover!! I tried all sort of ways of pressing and sliding, but now I'm afraid to damage the device by using too much force...
Have any of you guys have similar problems?
Does have something to do with the heat build-up from the battery the expands the plastic cover?
Clean the back side so you have friction, and push UP. Should work. Just did it
pedmond said:
Clean the back side so you have friction, and push UP. Should work. Just did it
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That worked! You are GOLD, thanks.
Or you could throw it really hard towards the floor. Should also work...
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist
this has to be one of toughest problems ever to be resolved here!
a hammer would have helped...
I find taking the stylus out and pushing from that corner the easiest way. Its a bit of a pain to get off if you have greasy hands!!
this sounds disgusting. it sounds like his phone is submersed in oil and he needs to wash it to remove the cover =\
i also heard if you rub the diamond against your head several times then place it against a wall...it will stick..like a balloon.
now you try =\
Dude, WTF, you're a puss. You couldnt get the back cover on the phone open?
Clicky-clicky!
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
zyborg said:
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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My Diamond has a very solid feel, so I'm afraid I can't help you there. Just to make sure: are you certain the back cover is well inserted?
Trust me, I have (tried to make sure that it's properly inserted). I'm now considering sticking some aluminum foil in there - as this should also act as a heat sink (I'm also experiencing intense heat from the processor when WiFi is turned on for more than 5 minutes).
Maybe then the foil will also fill out that extra space, I don't know.
In general, I think that the back cover is VERY poor quality and really needs to be redone/redesigned. The diamond shapes on the back is a mess, as the device rocks back and forth when you have it on a completely flat surface (like a table) and operate the screen/buttons. It should be made with a completely flush back and a more sturdy plastic material (thicker, at least). Don't you think?
zyborg said:
Trust me, I have (tried to make sure that it's properly inserted). I'm now considering sticking some aluminum foil in there - as this should also act as a heat sink (I'm also experiencing intense heat from the processor when WiFi is turned on for more than 5 minutes).
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Probably a bad idea. Sure aluminium might transfer heat well, but it also transfers electricity very well.
If yours is asloose as you say there's the risk of it moving and making Sony-style exploding battery fireworks.
What if the foil just sits in the bottom part and doesn't come into contact with the battery? Does that still present a risk?
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Probably a bad idea. Sure aluminium might transfer heat well, but it also transfers electricity very well.
If yours is asloose as you say there's the risk of it moving and making Sony-style exploding battery fireworks.
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What if the foil just sits in the bottom part and doesn't come into contact with the battery? Does that still present a risk?
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I don't have a Diamond yet to answer that properly. It was just a general warning about putting metal foil in electronics. If you can see ANY way for it to move from where you put it to any other component or connector - don't do it. And that includes small parts of foil that may flake off from rubbing when the case moves (which is exactly what you're trying to stop, soit's potentially an issue).
I'd not risk it myself, but you probably wouldn't die. Probably. Much.
By the way, I tested the aluminum foil, and it worked well to remove the clicky-clicky sensation/sound, but I quickly removed it again after reading the warning above.
Can anyone suggest an alternative material to fill the gap?
zyborg said:
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Yes on two different Diamonds, poor design, or design flaw.
Clicky-clicky has gone bye-bye!
I found another solution:
Cut a business card (not too thick) in half and place it over the battery on the inside of the back cover. Slide the back cover back on. No more clicky-clicky!
Today i spent what seemed like an hour attempting to remove the battery cover on my touch pro and FINALLY did it! I wonder why HTC made it so difficult. To fix the creaking problem, i just put some strips of tape on my battery cover and that stopped the problem
After opening and closing the door over the SD card slot many times while experimenting with rooting, the door will no longer stay closed and instead flaps. The only way I can keep it closed is with a piece of tape. All of the parts appear to be present and in good condition, it just seems that the magnet either isn't making contact or isn't strong enough.
Is anyone else having this problem and does anyone know how to fix it?
Perhaps you lost that small earth magnet on the flap it self ?
lifeisfun said:
Perhaps you lost that small earth magnet on the flap it self ?
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I do see a small, circular piece of metal on the center of the flap, which I think is the magnet.
Does anyone have any assistance they can provide?
Use some steel & check to see if the magnet is there. Then check to see if maybe the metal that it touches is intact. Make sure that your SD card is fully inserted & not interfering.
Cheers,
kev
Karine said:
Does anyone have any assistance they can provide?
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A small piece of chewing gum? J/K.
I had this happen to me when I first started messing around with rooting. As someone said above, check to make sure that the sd card is inserted all the way. Mine was sticking out just enough to keep it from fastening all the way.
I wasn't too worried about it though because I have one of the book-like covers that would have held it in place anyway.
I really don't like the way they designed the whole belt loop door thing..
I have a hard time getting cards in and out through that hole...
spikey911 said:
I really don't like the way they designed the whole belt loop door thing..
I have a hard time getting cards in and out through that hole...
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Definitely agree. It adds a certain style to the device but it creates an annoyance to function.
The little silver disk in the grey hard plastic piece is obviously a magnet. What I found interesting is that the "landing zone" for that magnet is also magnetic, but to a lesser degree. Perhaps the steel bit near the microSD slot is slowly becoming magnetized? That might account for the flap closure failing.
I held a ferrous chain from a keychain (very lightweight) near the slot and it swung right over to the spot where the magnet would sit, if the flap was closed (in case you're wondering how I determined that it, too, was magnetic).
Anyway, I thought that was interesting.
Does anyone know how to put the door back on if it's accidentally removed?
ndiniz said:
Does anyone know how to put the door back on if it's accidentally removed?
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picture?
guessing you have to slide each half of the two pieces of plastic back into the notch... but seeing what the piece looks like out would better help see how it is intended to be secured.
I have a Brand New phone where the SIM flap does NOT sit flush with the body of the phone.
The MicroUSB flap if fine and when viewing the screen cannot be seen. However, the SIM flap can be seen raised. If I push it back in it is flush for around 2-3 seconds and then it starts to protrude again!
Surely this will compromise the waterproofing???
I see other people are having problems but most of them where after 2-3 weeks. Mine is like this OUT OF THE BOX!!!
Your experiences?
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Me too.
Now I'm using the ultraslim cover from Puro and I think this helped reducing that.
Anyway you can try changing the flap, it's cheap and I saw that lot of people with this problem managed to solve in that way.
AndreDNA said:
Me too.
Now I'm using the ultraslim cover from Puro and I think this helped reducing that.
Anyway you can try changing the flap, it's cheap and I saw that lot of people with this problem managed to solve in that way.
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I have the same problem but on the upper one. Where do you buy flaps? Sony told me to send it under warranty but not having the phone 3 weeks just to change a rubber piece seems stupid.
If you have this problem exchange the phone for a new one immediately.. I had this and o2 said it was a recognised fault with some units
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With the cover on are you sure its tightly shut as water may get in...
Also... How easy are they to replace and where do you buy them from... May come in handy!
O2 are good... I bought mine from VERY.CO.UK!
search for them on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4Color-Si...lePhonesCasesPouches&var=&hash=item2346a7dffd
these ones based in uk ...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-S...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item4d270a35f3
cheers:good:
AnGrY sCoTsMaN said:
search for them on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4Color-Si...lePhonesCasesPouches&var=&hash=item2346a7dffd
these ones based in uk ...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-S...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item4d270a35f3
cheers:good:
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My SIM flap protrudes about 1/3 of a mm, but I've held my phone under water for a few minutes and there were no bubbles emerging anywhere so I think I'm good for now.
AnGrY sCoTsMaN said:
search for them on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4Color-Si...lePhonesCasesPouches&var=&hash=item2346a7dffd
these ones based in uk ...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-S...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item4d270a35f3
cheers:good:
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Do you have a guide to change this part . How to disassemply and assembly the new Sim Cap Cover
wolfgart said:
Do you have a guide to change this part . How to disassemply and assembly the new Sim Cap Cover
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dunno mate,by looking at them i'd imagine they just pull out....and you just plug the new ones in ?
wolfgart said:
Do you have a guide to change this part . How to disassemply and assembly the new Sim Cap Cover
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take a look at this. looks really easy, actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu5_xDvXQyU
OK, Just a quick update. Last night, I pushed the SIM Cover right in and wrapped about 3 rubber bands (top, middle & bottom of the flap) over the face of the phone to ensure that the flap remained in place when I let go of it.
When I took the rubber bands off this morning its a lot better.
I don't know if its a long term solution, but the flap does not seem to be protruding as much.... In fact it looks almost flush. :good: for now!
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OK, Just a quick update. Last night, I pushed the SIM Cover right in and wrapped about 3 rubber bands (top, middle & bottom of the flap) over the face of the phone to ensure that the flap remained in place when I let go of it.
When I took the rubber bands off this morning its a lot better.
I don't know if its a long term solution, but the flap does not seem to be protruding as much.... In fact it looks almost flush. :good: for now!
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this is my problem : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qofci7kyq88bt2g/AAB6Bfryie68xSEFoGLWdjv8a?dl=0
Try the rubber band method... Push the bottom of the flap in and then place a rubber band on it and leave it overnight
For information I had the same issue when I received mine. I did not want to send it back and wait again for a new one so I used to push back the flap when I saw it open. Now, the flap remains closed and doesn't open anymore! I think it just need some time to fit correctly.
I have tried the waterproof test and everything was OK
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For information I had the same issue when I received mine. I did not want to send it back and wait again for a new one so I used to push back the flap when I saw it open. Now, the flap remains closed and doesn't open anymore! I think it just need some time to fit correctly.
I have tried the waterproof test and everything was OK
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I'm too chicken to attempt the waterproof test!
You can test waterproofing without water:
1) close the flaps
2) dial *#*#7378423#*#* (7378423 = SERVICE)
3) service tests/pressure sensor
4) press on the screen with your finger, pressure will rise
5) open a flap, press, pressure does not rise
So I got my new Z3C and was thinking: what if we can make flaps and audio port more waterproof?
Doing pressure sensor test I get reading around 1000 and it's increasing by about 30-40 when I press against screen with closed flaps. But it normalizes after 1-2 seconds and goes back to initial reading meaning tiny amount of air escapes. Does it mean my phone is not totally waterproof? Don't know.
Since this phone is just fresh-water proof (meaning no using in pool or sea) and I really want to use it worry-free in all kind of water that I dare to go in myself I really want to improve waterproofness.
I'm not worried about front and back since glass should be all.kind-of-things-proof. This leaves sd card and sim card covers, audio jack, mic holes and speakers.
So what I thought of was to "grease" flaps' rubber o-rings with rubber compatible oil/grease to make better contact with phone body or use some kind of silicone spread around rubber contact area before closing flaps to have semi-permanent seal and be still able to open and scrub extra stuff off without doing much damage.
For audio jack I thought to make some kind of plug - like pressy button but with a bit bigger "head" that has soft sticky rubber underneath so when pressed in it makes a seal with the edge of audio jack or even plug that is covered with silicone all the way.
Speakers and mic holes could be protected with bits of strong adhesive tape - it's easy to get sticky stuff off the glass and it'll be possible to hear some sound even with speakers covered. Not sure about mic holes because side plastic has matte finish but some strong adhesive should still stick?
So the question - has anyone tried something remotely related? Is it thinkable? Have I missed anything important? What materials (grease, silicone) should I use?
If anyone has done something similar? Probably... But no one ever posted about it on this forum. You can use the phone in the sea and swimming pool, as long as you rinse the phone afterwards. As for modifying the phone, I wouldn't do it. It might cause you to lose your warranty.
In terms of waterproofing the phone even more, I'd look at waterproof cases made for other phones with almost similar dimensions and see if you can do something about the case instead.
Sent from my D5803
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You can use the phone in the sea and swimming pool, as long as you rinse the phone afterwards. As for modifying the phone, I wouldn't do it.
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Plenty of stories of people going in the water, damaging their phone and fighting with sony about warranty.
It's hardly modifying, adhesive sticker on glass is easily removed and thin film of silicone should be also easily removable.
Dsteppa said:
It might cause you to lose your warranty.
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Yeah... getting water inside causes that too.
Dsteppa said:
In terms of waterproofing the phone even more, I'd look at waterproof cases made for other phones with almost similar dimensions and see if you can do something about the case instead.
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That's the option. But I haven't seen any slim waterproof case that could be comfortably used all the time.
Anyway, curiosity is strong and I'll most likely try different options.
PS. can someone test pressure sensor - is reading staying high when screen is pressed or it fades back to normal with all covers closed?
I've just used mine in pool all weekends since I bought it without any issue and even without afraid of doing that! The same with my wife's Z1!
And I'm contantly opening/closing its usb port due my xposed modules development (debugging purposes)! Maybe some unlucky day I will screw it... who knows!
Ofc we always need to be sure all ports are properly closed before going to have fun!
kalamees1 said:
Plenty of stories of people going in the water, damaging their phone and fighting with sony about warranty.
It's hardly modifying, adhesive sticker on glass is easily removed and thin film of silicone should be also easily removable.
PS. can someone test pressure sensor - is reading staying high when screen is pressed or it fades back to normal with all covers closed?
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Sorry, I forgot about the pressure sensor part, it's normal that the numbers go back to normal after you lifted your finger, it works like that for everyone.
If my mind serves me right, I've seen Sony ads with the Z3C being thrown in a pool or something similar, so a pool really shouldn't be a problem. And yes of course people will have to fight for their cause at Sony, they won't just put any phone under warranty, else people would exploit that.
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Sorry, I forgot about the pressure sensor part, it's normal that the numbers go back to normal after you lifted your finger, it works like that for everyone.
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I probably expressed myself bit vaguely. Thing is that pressure reading on my phone returns back to normal WHILE HOLDING screen under pressure. Initially pressing screen creates greater pressure inside the phone, reading rises but air escapes quite quickly (1-2seconds) and pressure reading normalises. After releasing finger screen pressure sensor shows lower readings for a second until extra air seeps inside to equalise pressure again.
Hope it's clear enough.
Also, does it mean that I got less waterproof phone that it should be?
I dunno about you but i've been using my camera in the pool for a while now and even for hours at times
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I've used mine under water as well. OP if you're really worried about it you can send it off to liquipel and have them make the phone even more waterproof
I have had this phone for about 1.5 years now and it held up,it was running very well but it always had an overheating problem,you have probably seen me all over the forums asking how can I lower the temperature of the phone lol.
Well it has become less apparent with the latest build of Lineage,only when I am using Snapchat but that doesn't matter.
But now what started happening is my back glass is unsticking,the bottom part to be exact,I believe this is because the device heated up so much it weakened the adhesive.
So I am asking now with what material I can re-stick the back glass properly since I don't want it to hang like that for no reason.
Use fevibond
You can use fevibond(Synthetic Rubber Base Glue). I used it to stick front screen peeling off from top left corner.
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You can use fevibond(Synthetic Rubber Base Glue). I used it to stick front screen peeling off from top left corner.
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Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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No, that would make it tough/impossible to separate it for repairs.
Please refer to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/sony-xperia-z3-compacts-display-peeling-t3156347
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Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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Nope I wouldn't do that, as super glue is not flexible. I have glued both screen and back glass with B7000 adhesive (most repair shops use it specifically for displays) and it hasn't moved since. That was done some 4 months ago. If you put enough glue on the frame (be careful not to leave empty spots, cover the complete frame with glue), of course avoid dripping of the sides into the frame, I am sure that it won't peel off again, especially the back glass.
I am waiting for new screen to arrive, so I'll have to re-do everything again, of course with B7000.
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Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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Never use superglue, it will not last long and will ruin your phone, as superglue's main ingredient disintegrates plastic...
I've also used red 3m tape, does not hold!
Bought B7000 glue, will use it once my new battery arrives, so using useless 3m red tape in the mean time...
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B7000 Glue works!!!
I heavily flash, test etc. and no matter how hot the phone gets, it's sealed and does not reopen.
I cleaned the surfaces, I applied the glue, and did not care about making a mess (the glue is easily removable for future repairs) and did not care about it oozing out either, just made sure that it covered that border.
I did not use any heat, and it was still cold here.
I then used clothes pegs, 3 on each edge (I was worried about too much pressure, but it was not an issue)
I did not turn my phone on at all, and waited for 48 hours, before removing the pegs then turning it on.
Please note: the z3c is bendable, especially in jeans pockets, I use an anodized bumper to keep it straight. And using tempered glass on both sides is recommended.
***I did however buy a new battery, as my previous battery seemed fat, and I also removed the nfc sticker, but not sure if that is necessary.