[Q] Wifi problems with multiple router networks - Moto X Q&A

I seem to be having pretty severe wifi issues on networks that are composed of a large number of routers (i.e. campus/business networks) where going between routers will result in the phone believing it is connected, but not being able to send/receive data. This is evidenced both by the lack of notifications/apps working, as well as the wifi icon in the quick toggle panel being orange (which indicates no data being sent/recieved, I believe) despite having full signal. This means that without any external indication that anything is wrong, my phone essentially does not work anymore until I turn the wifi off and back on. Previous phones (galaxy nexus, droid) as well as computers did not have this issue on the same network.
Has anyone else noticed this problem, and if so, found any way to get around it other than remembering to reset the wifi power every time you move between areas?

It sounds like there are multiple WAPs all using the same SSID, and Android is not requesting a new IP address when it disconnects from one WAP and connects to another. You could probably work around the issue using Tasker, and have it toggle Wifi off and on again any time Wifi is disconnected. I you go that route I would recommend using the trial version available from the developer's site, or one of the many similar apps that are available in the Play Store for free.
There may be something more to this though. Hopefully someone else has another idea.

WiFi issues
ice20978 said:
I seem to be having pretty severe wifi issues on networks that are composed of a large number of routers (i.e. campus/business networks) where going between routers will result in the phone believing it is connected, but not being able to send/receive data. This is evidenced both by the lack of notifications/apps working, as well as the wifi icon in the quick toggle panel being orange (which indicates no data being sent/recieved, I believe) despite having full signal. This means that without any external indication that anything is wrong, my phone essentially does not work anymore until I turn the wifi off and back on. Previous phones (galaxy nexus, droid) as well as computers did not have this issue on the same network.
Has anyone else noticed this problem, and if so, found any way to get around it other than remembering to reset the wifi power every time you move between areas?
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I'm having the same issues both out in public and at my home. This issue didn't seem to exist prior to 4.4 update. Now I'm constantly having to toggle my WiFi on and off or toggle airplane mode and also hitting the symbol down at the bottom left on my phone and on my router at the same time. If someone has any information to correct this would be great. Like I said I never had this problem prior to 4.4.

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It sounds like there are multiple WAPs all using the same SSID, and Android is not requesting a new IP address when it disconnects from one WAP and connects to another. You could probably work around the issue using Tasker, and have it toggle Wifi off and on again any time Wifi is disconnected. I you go that route I would recommend using the trial version available from the developer's site, or one of the many similar apps that are available in the Play Store for free.
There may be something more to this though. Hopefully someone else has another idea.
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Thanks for the suggestion! One question though: does the wifi actually "disconnect" when there is a handover between two routers of the same network? Is a handover while constantly connected something tasker could detect?

ice20978 said:
Thanks for the suggestion! One question though: does the wifi actually "disconnect" when there is a handover between two routers of the same network? Is a handover while constantly connected something tasker could detect?
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As far as I know, Android doesn't "roam" seamlessly from one AP to another even when the SSIDs are the same. I'm pretty sure Tasker would see this as Wifi being disconnected (albeit briefly). You could then tell Tasker to turn off Wifi for 5 seconds and then turn it back on again.

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As far as I know, Android doesn't "roam" seamlessly from one AP to another even when the SSIDs are the same. I'm pretty sure Tasker would see this as Wifi being disconnected (albeit briefly). You could then tell Tasker to turn off Wifi for 5 seconds and then turn it back on again.
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I finally got around to making a tasker script to do this, and tried it out for a few days, but unfortunately it does not seem to detect the changing between the different routers on my institute network as having the wifi disconnected, and thus doesn't solve the issue. It was a good idea to try though!
I've cross-posted the issue at the link below in hope motorola will see this, but if anyone knows a better way to report this, please let me know.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/68884aa31b

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[Q] Wi-Fi Woes

Ok I have a very iritating problem.
My captivate works amazing in all ways... except one. When I'm at home connected to Wifi, within a few mins of me putting the phone down, or even mid use, the wifi will just stop working. The icon still shows it to be connected however no apps are able to actually get internet. A quick pulldown of the quick access menu and tapping wifi off and back on again gets it going great... for another 5 mins. Then the same thing happens.
Its been like this ever since I got the phone, even after flashing different roms. Now i'm running a Linksys Wireless - N router - maybe they're not playing nice?
I dont think its a hardware fault because when I serve wifi, IE the captivate is an infrastructure mode access point for 3g, it stays on consistently and my laptop can tether for 2 hours or more.
Anyone know what might be causing this?
Thanks
When you have wifi on, go to menu settings and 'Wireless and network'. In Wi-Fi settings you can change the Wi-Fi timeout.
nickbarbs said:
Ok I have a very iritating problem.
My captivate works amazing in all ways... except one. When I'm at home connected to Wifi, within a few mins of me putting the phone down, or even mid use, the wifi will just stop working. The icon still shows it to be connected however no apps are able to actually get internet. A quick pulldown of the quick access menu and tapping wifi off and back on again gets it going great... for another 5 mins. Then the same thing happens.
Its been like this ever since I got the phone, even after flashing different roms. Now i'm running a Linksys Wireless - N router - maybe they're not playing nice?
I dont think its a hardware fault because when I serve wifi, IE the captivate is an infrastructure mode access point for 3g, it stays on consistently and my laptop can tether for 2 hours or more.
Anyone know what might be causing this?
Thanks
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Try goin to settings->wireless and networks-> wifi settings (menu key)advanced and set the sleeping policy to never
I've done that...
i *Think* i've fixed it. I was using WPA2 IPK encryption or whatever.. Switched back to the 64 bit crappy WEP. Wifi was on all night and all morning with no cut out.
Might be just another linksys-is-crap situation.
HI, I figured I keep my wifi woes within a singe thread so.
I have an old D Link WBS 2310 router.
I recently got a message from AT&T that I'm near my data limit. This surprised me as my last cycle I barely got near 500mb. Since my bill isn't ready yet, I can't see exactly what it is I'm doing to use so much data.
TO be safe I figured I'd pull out my old router and set it up. After hours of hassle getting it to work on my new computer, I wasn't able to get my Captivate to hook up to it.
My laptop works fine. It gets a fast wifi signal, but my phone just says "Obtaining IP address" for a while and then gives up.
My phone gets wifi at work, at friends', at coffee shops - but not at home.
I've tried this with no encryption, WEP encryption and WPA2 encryption.
Each time my laptop would hook up to the wifi but my phone wouldn't.
I searched some other forums and found similar problems with HTC phones.
Some answers say that D Link sucks. But that answer applies to other brands as well.
Do I need "n" wifi, rather than "g"?
I don't want to buy another router only to find it still doesn't work.
Any help?
gluvox said:
HI, I figured I keep my wifi woes within a singe thread so.
I have an old D Link WBS 2310 router.
I recently got a message from AT&T that I'm near my data limit. This surprised me as my last cycle I barely got near 500mb. Since my bill isn't ready yet, I can't see exactly what it is I'm doing to use so much data.
TO be safe I figured I'd pull out my old router and set it up. After hours of hassle getting it to work on my new computer, I wasn't able to get my Captivate to hook up to it.
My laptop works fine. It gets a fast wifi signal, but my phone just says "Obtaining IP address" for a while and then gives up.
My phone gets wifi at work, at friends', at coffee shops - but not at home.
I've tried this with no encryption, WEP encryption and WPA2 encryption.
Each time my laptop would hook up to the wifi but my phone wouldn't.
I searched some other forums and found similar problems with HTC phones.
Some answers say that D Link sucks. But that answer applies to other brands as well.
Do I need "n" wifi, rather than "g"?
I don't want to buy another router only to find it still doesn't work.
Any help?
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part of the IEEE 802.11n standard is backward compatibility with all previous 802.11 standards IIRC, so there should be no need to buy a new n device.
HOWEVER, i am also having issues with my wi-fi and my g capable router. i will meddle around with some phone and router settings to see if i can fix this, this is one area were i can actually be of some use on this forum
Hi. It turned out the wifi was broken on my captivate. I reset it to stock and it's all better. It had been working up to the previous day so I assumed that it was still working. The router goes down intermittently in general, so I've ordered a new one to see what's up.
Hi, I'm back! So after resetting the phone and getting wifi to actually connect (rather than being stuck searching for IP address), I'm now having the exact same problem is the OP. The OP seems to have solved this by switching to WEP. I tried this and it doesn't work. My timeout is set to never. Also, it's the same at home (I replaced my router) as well as at Starbucks and a friends house.
I'm connected, but can't download or sync. It works initially and then stops, and then comes back in briefly and then stops, all the while "connected." Sometimes I can fix it temporarily by turning off wifi and then turning it back on.
SO what's the deal? Is it a hardware problem? Is there some secret magic code?
edit: Just disabled encryption - same problem.

[Q] Am I the only one experiencing these 2 issues in regards to WiFi

Having had my LG 2x for a bout a week now I have come to find that it suffers from 2 issues I find annoying, and bordering to simply slack in making from the side of LG. Issues such as those should simply NOT excist on a phone such as this one :/
1:
I use my WiFi at home but sometimes I see that I am NOT connected to it and go into WiFi settings only to find that it says my network is "Disabled". How has it become disables, and why is the questions I would like to ask. I would like to know what causes the phone to think that.
Again my former phone was an HTC Desire and it used and connected to my WIFi network without any problems or issues leading me to suspet that this error is simply caused by LG either by fault in the hardware or a bad software that they released their phone with.....
2:
Sometimes if WiFi is actually enabled I will not be allowed to toggle on regular mobile data. The phone replies with the message "WiFi Connection open, cant open Mobile data" or something of that sort. I have gotten that message a few times over the last week and it comes regardless of whether or not my phone is actually connected to a WiFi Network or not.
Which basiclaly means that I cant use mobile data without first disabling my WiFi, reenabling mobile data and then reenable WiFi and then it works again.... for the time being.
Sometimes the phone also just disables mobile data on its own meaning I cant get any data connection unless I do the procedure above again. Its simply annoying and something that just shouldnt happen on a phone of this caliber . And with that comment I mean both the issues, because its simply not supposed to hapen for a phone in this price range or of this caliber.
All in all it seems more like LG cutting corners to be the first ones to release a Tegra2 phone. Cutting corners meaning that we have to content with a phone full of errors and bugs
I am having the same Wifi issue, it disconnects for no reason.
Hopefully this will get fixed soon in a 2.3 update. This minor wifi bug does not irritate me that much, the phone otherwise is a beast.
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1:
I use my WiFi at home but sometimes I see that I am NOT connected to it and go into WiFi settings only to find that it says my network is "Disabled". How has it become disables, and why is the questions I would like to ask. I would like to know what causes the phone to think that.
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I had the same problem. It was caused by the wireless security/encryption method used in my router. I changed it from WPA2 Personal to WPA2 Personal Mixed, and now the router no longer disconnects my phone from the Wi-Fi. So try that.
You could disable the router wireless security entirely just to test ...
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2:
Sometimes if WiFi is actually enabled I will not be allowed to toggle on regular mobile data. The phone replies with the message "WiFi Connection open, cant open Mobile data" or something of that sort. I have gotten that message a few times over the last week and it comes regardless of whether or not my phone is actually connected to a WiFi Network or not.
Which basiclaly means that I cant use mobile data without first disabling my WiFi, reenabling mobile data and then reenable WiFi and then it works again.... for the time being.
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Well, I never leave the 3G connection on if I dont use it, so I can't answer you there. But Wi-Fi have greater priority than 3G. This means that enabling the 3G connection when having the Wi-Fi on and connected does not do anything. The 3G connection will only connect when the Wi-Fi is disabled.
It was the same on my former HTC Desire.
ULJ said:
I had the same problem. It was caused by the wireless security/encryption method used in my router. I changed it from WPA2 Personal to WPA2 Personal Mixed, and now the router no longer disconnects my phone from the Wi-Fi. So try that.
You could disable the router wireless security entirely just to test ...
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Sorry if I am a bit blunt. But that security setting has worked up till the point where I got my LG 2x, it works between all my laptops, on my SE G900, and worked flawlessly when I had my Desire, ie then its LG's issue and they just need to fix it.
IMO I can live with it getting tits up once in a while, AS LONG as it is fixed when LG releases Gingerbread. LG should however be asked why the phone "disables" the connection.
But I just checked my AP and its present setting is WPA2/WPA Mixed Mode. And the other "options" I have is: WPA2 Personal, WPA Personal, WPA2/WPA Enterprise Mixed Mode, WPA2 Enterprise, WPA Enterprise, WEP, RADIUS and Disabled.
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Well, I never leave the 3G connection on if I dont use it, so I can't answer you there. But Wi-Fi have greater priority than 3G. This means that enabling the 3G connection when having the Wi-Fi on and connected does not do anything. The 3G connection will only connect when the Wi-Fi is disabled.
It was the same on my former HTC Desire.
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I think you misunderstood me there . WiFi is turned on, but NOT connected, ie it should default to 3G data. But if I click my icon to turn on 3G data I just get told that it can't because WiFi is active, which it isn't since its not connected to any Access Point.
When I leaves my apartment I leave my Wifi on, and the second I leave the reception area of my AP the phone automatically switch to 3G data and back to WiFi again when I return. And thus I tend to keep both "on" to allow that seamless transition. In effect I could technically just disable my WiFi and stay on 3G considering I have a 25 Gig limit, but using my WiFi at home is just so much faster
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...well that will address the symptoms...
I have the "disabled" status occasionally on my phone. It's triggered by 3 unsuccessful login attempts to the AP. This can happen if you're on the very edge of WiFi range but not sure that applies in your situation.
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...well that will address the symptoms...
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Where did i say that? the "...and [security] Disabled..." part, because I checked over my posts and I don't see it anywhere >_<
djmcnz said:
I have the "disabled" status occasionally on my phone. It's triggered by 3 unsuccessful login attempts to the AP. This can happen if you're on the very edge of WiFi range but not sure that applies in your situation.
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Well it might be that error that I am falling for then, but its just strange that the LG stalls, while my HTC Desire didn't seem to care and just grabbed the connection.
I wonder if there is some way to change it to try like 100 times or just completely ignore the limit and keep trying till it gets through.
I just had the "Disabled" issue again while sitting at home and being what 2 feet from the APN, so its certainly NOT a range issue :/
Hopefully this gets fixed with Gingerbread or I might go looking for another phone.
i have this problem with my folio and my 2x....
disabling wifi and enabling wifi helps.
for my folio i can say its a screen sleep issue(something messing with wifi as well,no solution afaik).
so if im downloading stuff and the screen goes to sleep my download stopps.
sometimes it resumes after wakeup, and wifi works fine, sometimes not.
for my folio the solution was to use the dockingstation, couse then it changes to a clock, and the screen doesnt time out.
today at work i was downloading stuff over my 2x, and expierienced the same strange behavior.
dont really know if its related(both tegra2 devices so it could be), but the occurance is too similar.
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But I just checked my AP and its present setting is WPA2/WPA Mixed Mode. And the other "options" I have is: WPA2 Personal, WPA Personal, WPA2/WPA Enterprise Mixed Mode, WPA2 Enterprise, WPA Enterprise, WEP, RADIUS and Disabled
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...and [security] Disabled...
...well that will address the symptoms...
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Where did i say that? the "...and [security] Disabled..." part, because I checked over my posts and I don't see it anywhere >_<
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Well disabling security will do me no good at all considering I dont want to leave my wireless network sitting open like leaving my house unlocked.
So no thats not really an option... sorry :/
Of course not, but have to tried? My earlier, and now, is that your problem may be caused by the security on your router. It was a problem I experienced.
I have not tried yet. Because if i turn off the security and my phone then stays connected then its not a solution >_<. Its still an issue that the phone is causing.
BUT that said I would need to leave the security off my wireless for at least a week in order to really get any reliable data on whether or not its the security setting in the router that causes the issue (But I think rather not when all other phones has no problem with it). And sorry to say this, but im not leaving my internet open for a week to determine whether or not disabling my security makes my phone able to stay connected.
My HTC Desire could get connected and never disabled WiFi on it self. And the LG 2x does it. Ergo it must be an issue on the phone when it is the only phone in and around me that causes that issue.
have you tried changing the pw to a shorter one? in the shop where i work, some devices have problems with long passwords. some just connect to the router with the 10 char pw. connecting to the other router(20char pw) is sometimes a problem. the two routers are the same modell.
EDIT just tried it with the optimus, both router work, so this wont be an solution. sorry

Wifi signal drops to "poor" and won't connect with 2014 moto x

I just received my gen 2 moto x last night and am having trouble connecting to Wifi at work. It connects to my home network and one of my work networks just fine, but when I try to connect to the work network I need it to connect to the signal strength drops to "poor" as soon as I press connect. My home network and work network both are password protected. I've verified the password and have the same connection settings as my friend's gen 1 moto x, which connects properly. The work network has excellent signal at all times when I am not trying to connect to it. It just keeps cycling from "connecting" to "saved."
Has anyone else experienced this or know a workaround? I found this but this is for a gen 1 (I'm not sure if that would help) but I'm not rooted so I don't have access to phase 2 authentication. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/wifi-signal-drops-trying-to-connect-t2872241
Thanks,
Mike
mikekory87 said:
I just received my gen 2 moto x last night and am having trouble connecting to Wifi at work. It connects to my home network and one of my work networks just fine, but when I try to connect to the work network I need it to connect to the signal strength drops to "poor" as soon as I press connect. My home network and work network both are password protected. I've verified the password and have the same connection settings as my friend's gen 1 moto x, which connects properly. The work network has excellent signal at all times when I am not trying to connect to it. It just keeps cycling from "connecting" to "saved."
Has anyone else experienced this or know a workaround? I found this but this is for a gen 1 (I'm not sure if that would help) but I'm not rooted so I don't have access to phase 2 authentication. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/wifi-signal-drops-trying-to-connect-t2872241
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Mike
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Exact same problem. Fine at home and everywhere else. Spent a couple hours this week on the phone with Moto. They keep saying it's the network, yet everyone else is on it. They say update firmware and open MAC. Both of which are done.
This is the message in the Access point every 3 seconds when my phone is trying to connect...
"Client Deauthenticated: MACAddress:9c:d9:17:a1:c8:51 Base Radio MAC:b8:62:1f:ad:5e:90 Slot: 0 User Name: unknown Ip Address: unknown Reason:Unspecified ReasonCode: 1"
My wife's phone drops WiFi in favor of 4G LTE at home. I have to turn off data to connect to WiFi but it eventually drops the WiFi. I'm still waiting on my pure edition so I'm not sure if its just her phone or if its a common problem.
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My wife's phone drops WiFi in favor of 4G LTE at home. I have to turn off data to connect to WiFi but it eventually drops the WiFi. I'm still waiting on my pure edition so I'm not sure if its just her phone or if its a common problem.
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This!
I have this problem all the time ON multiple networks, its very frustrating
Mines will disconnect from my 5ghz when the screen goes off and reconnects when turned on, works fine on 2.4ghz. I have a Nighthawk ac1900 so the phone is definitely the problem.
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This is related to 802.1X, We have it implemented Radius and 802.1X at work and it doesnt connect. But the same AP has a guest SSID which has no protection and a separate vlan which has access only to internet and it works fine.
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This is related to 802.1X, We have it implemented Radius and 802.1X at work and it doesnt connect. But the same AP has a guest SSID which has no protection and a separate vlan which has access only to internet and it works fine.
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Sounds like this could be my problem. We have 4 networks we can login to, but they are all broadcast from the same access point. One says "secured with 802.1x" and is for laptops, two say "secured with WPA/WPA2" and are for cell phones/other, and the final is unsecured. I can only connect to the unsecured network.
So does it sound like it's the phone that's refusing the network, the network is refusing the phone for something the phone is sending back to it, or the network is refusing the phone for another reason?
I'm having this same issue. 1st Gen Moto X sitting right next to 2nd Gen, and the 1st Gen is connected while the 2nd Gen can't.
I'm having the exact same issue. It appears the problem is that older Cisco firmware doesnt support 802.11w, which is what the moto x 2014 uses by default. Here is a thread where a moto rep explains it to Cisco - https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12331486/connectivity-issues-cisco-controllers-and-pmf-enabled-moto-x-gen-2
My girlfriend and I have this phone and we had a similar problem. It would connect/reconnect like a billion times before staying connected on our home network but connect fine on other networks. I tried several solutions but the one that worked was changing the channel on the router. I live in an apartment building and there are a lot of WiFi networks around me so I figured that might be causing some interference. I changed my channel from 6 to auto (it automatically jumped to 11) and now it connects instantly and is solid. What's weird is I tried channels recommended by WiFi analyzer and my other devices would connect just fine but the Moto X's couldn't even see the network in the list when it was on a lot of channels like 12, 13, and 14.
Seems like a weird WiFi radio firmware bug to me.
Is there a client side fix for this?
I just ran into the problem at my work. It is a major hospital. They are not going upgrade their cisco firmware so a couple of people's personal phones are able to connect to the network.
WiFi in general is bad on the X2014 and I am reading the same in the Droid Turbo forums.
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What!? Really?
I've not had a single issue with WiFi connectivity. I'm an IT professional so heavily reliant on WiFi.
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WiFi in general is bad on the X2014 and I am reading the same in the Droid Turbo forums.
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I've not had a single issue with WiFi connectivity. I'm an IT professional so heavily reliant on WiFi.
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I never had a WiFi problem with the Moto X 2014 until today at work. It wouldn't connect to a few different clients Wireless APs. At the first client site I power cycled the phone and WiFi still wouldn't connect. I then went to another client site and once again it would no longer connect. I power cycled again and this time it connected just fine albeit Bluetooth was acting funny and not connecting to the Moto 360. After cycling Bluetooth off and on again the 360 finally connected. Not sure if this is an actual issue or just dumb luck. I wonder if anyone that was having WiFi issues with this phone also has a Moto 360 connected via Bluetooth?
I don't own a 360 and my bluetooth is normally switched off unless I'm streaming music at home.
I know none of what I am about to write will solve anyone's issue but sharing my experiences mught help understand you're not alone. I wander between as many as a dozen different wifi networks daily. I manager a 63 room hotel on 7.5 acres where we are currently running EnGenius EAP350 AP's broadcasting in 2.4mhz band ONLY using .11bgn. I set the entire network to use one SSID so roaming is, in theory, problem free. My XT1095 has not had any issues at all here on property.
I also have my personal network in the lobby and main building under 2.4/5/.11AC side by side with out guest network. No issues bouncing around. I honestly expected issues but have found none.
There is one issue I have found in Android in general which can happen randomly, or I have not been able to induce the behavior only recognize it. Occasionally when I move from one building to another Android (ICS forward for sure) will forget which actual AP it's after and just hang. My solution is to tell the device to forget that node then once forgotten the network, of course, shows up in the list. I then select it and boom we're back in business.
I do have issues when I visit a network at say, the grocery store which requires accepting an EULA...the device simply will hang Wifi wize, even when I delete and reconnect I won't get the note to open the authorization page. I end up just killing wifi and going with LTE.
I get the same behaviors from all my phones ICS though Kitkat, don't have Lollipop yet darn it!!
I have long been frustrated with this weirdism from Android but have reached a point of M.A.D. with my devices but never found a solution.
I have noted I have the most issues by far with Cisco/Linksys devices. It has been almost assured that if I have an issue it's one of those routers running an older firmware version (amazing how many AP/routers use default password settings...I mean, really???)
Not 100% sure it's a firmware only issue but I do think it's some common bit of hardware in an AP/Router which can go spastic for some reason preventing Android from figuring out how to remain or get connected. I even had one of the EnGenius AP's go nuts, a fast swap with a freshly configured AP resolves but, again, still does not identify or solve the problem
I also sense there is some oddness deep in the bowels of Android's wifi/networking subsystem which just was never written correctly and may never be fixed.
Last I run and app called Wifi Analyzer by Kevin Yuan, it helps me a GREAT deal because I can target a specific AP/node to connect with. Android versions often defeat this by not remaining connected to that desired target AP and switching to something else. Here is where I think some of the issues with wifi connectivity live...Google MUST spend some time refining their wifi subsystem.
No matter this is a Very frustrating issue when it happens. My best solution has always been to forget the current connection then reconnect with it again once it reappears. Better yet use Wifi Analyzer or similar app to target a specific AP/node and connect/forget from inside the app, that really does seem to help, mostly...sigh, I know, sorry...
This WiFi issue is really aggravating. I have tried so many things:
1. Rebooting Router
2. Powering Off/On Phone
3. Turning WiFi Radio Off/On
4. Resetting Phone Cache Partition
5. Using WiFi analyzer and setting my router to various channels manually
6. Changing Router SSID
7. Forgetting SSID on phone and re-adding it
8. Verifying MAC Filtering is not enabled
9. Enabling MAC filtering and specifically allowing phone MAC address
10. Disabling "Avoid Poor Connections" in WiFi settings
11. Manually setting WiFi frequency band to 2.4ghz in phone settings
12. Disabling "WiFi Optimization" in phone settings
23. Changing WiFi direct and BT phone names (yeah, a big stretch, but I read somewhere that this worked)
24. Installed updated firmware on my ASUS RT-N12D1 (3.0.0.d.376_3602)
25. Disabled WPS on router
26. Switched router between Auto, Legacy and N-Only
27. Disabled Authentication and Encryption on router, just an "Open" connection.
After all of this, the phone still has WiFi connectivity issues. Sometimes after a phone power cycle it will connect to WiFi, but never for very long. Every other device I have connects to the WiFi without issues. I just got the Moto X a few days ago (AT&T version) and this is the first time I have ever had a device with WiFi connectivity issues like this. Very aggravating. There is clearly something wrong with either the hardware, or software on the phone.
There are some other oddities. When it won't connect to WiFi, there is something strange with the phone. Its not like it just can't connect or stay connected to WiFi, but somehow it seems like the WiFi is in a stalled state. Sometimes it won't show any WiFi networks and just says "Searching for WiFi networks..." until I turn off wifi and turn back on again. Then as soon as it turns back on, it will show the nearby SSID's, and try to auto-connect to my router, but after a few seconds it shows "Disabled" under the SSID. Then after a few seconds the disabled goes away, and it just shows the SSID name. It also won't let me change the WiFi Direct phone name while the WiFi is in this state, it gives me an error saying "Failed to rename device", followed by "Group Creation Failed". However, when I am actually connected to WiFi, I can rename the WiFi direct name just fine. So its not just simply an issue with bad radio signal or something, but something more serious, like the WiFi state is hung or something. If I can't resolve this in another day or two, I am going to have to return the phone, and hopefully a replacement will work. If not, I might have to get something other than a MotoX because I can't not have WiFi while at home and work.
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I found a way that seems to work to connect to WiFi. To clear, this isn't a fix for the data-sync issue that some people are having, or poor signal, but the issue where you can't connect to an SSID, and there is no error or anything.
1. Hold Down Power Button
2. Turn Airplane Mode On
3. Turn Wi-Fi On
4. Connect to SSID
5. Press Power Button down again
6. Turn airplane mode "Off"
I have now tried this several times, and it works everytime. If I turn off Wi-Fi and back on again, it won't connect, until I do the airplane mode trick. I don't know who to give credit for this, I have spent days and hours searching, and I remembered reading that from somebody else, but not sure where, so this is not my fix, I am just posting it here as it seems to work.
This issue is strange, and must be some combination of Android, and Motorola software/hardware/firmware configuration. I hope they get this fixed, but it at least now, this temporary fix will work whenever WiFi is not connecting.
For those of you getting WiFi connectivity problems, it could be related to your router setup. Download an app called InSSIDer and run a scan, then choose a channel that's not being used but make sure it's 5 channels higher or lower. For example, if it detects 3 networks on channels 3, 5 & 6, then you want to choose channel 10 or 11. If it detects one network on channel 6, then you should choose channel 1 or channel 10 or 11.
I noticed issues like this when I bought my Nexus 4 after my iPhone 4. Android devices seem to ship with rubbish WiFi radios.
Like I've mentioned before, I've not experienced a single disconnection with my phone either at home, work, in laws, coffee shops or anywhere else ever. Same with my first gen Moto X.
Mine is slightly different. Now and then, after power cycling or rebooting, it forgets all the WiFi passwords. Not every time. Just now and then.
Also sometimes it's quite fast, some slow. My wife's firs gen is pretty constant.

"Rogue" WIFI network keeps saving

At work, we have 2 WIFI networks. ????-WIFI and ????-Guest
I have NEVER connected to -Guest, and nobody here even knows what the password is. It's never used.
Randomly, my phone will disconnect from -WIFI and attempt to connect to -Guest, and it fails authentication every time.
I need to go into network settings and forget the network.
Nobody else has this issue.
This has happened on multiple roms, radios, etc.
Majority of the office runs Android. I'm the only one with a Nexus 6.
It's especially aggravating since I use Tasker to control my phones volume when connected to -WIFI
It's an IT company so we're not unfamiliar with technology. We're all out of ideas!
Anyone able to shed some light on this?
How many access points do you have in the office? Unplug each one, one by one, and see if one of them is broadcasting that signal. How close are you to other buildings or offices similar to yours? Could be receiving signal from near by.
There might be some apps in the play store that will give you signal strength readings so you can try and narrow it down to see the general directions of where it's coming from.
I've ran into that same issue at the company I work with and it does get annoying when you have multiple WiFi networks on your WAPs. This issue occurred more frequently when we had sonicpoints managing our WiFi. But when we switched to Ubiquiti WAPs, I still had the issue, but it was less frequent than a everyday thing. I've been looking online to see what can cause this problem because a lot of the people who work for the company I work with have iPhones and they never have this problem. Unfortunately I'm not entirely sure what could be causing this problem and I'm not sure if it's a issue specific to Lollipop, but hopefully this issue does get solved because it's frustrating and I definitely feel your pain on this...
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How many access points do you have in the office? Unplug each one, one by one, and see if one of them is broadcasting that signal. How close are you to other buildings or offices similar to yours? Could be receiving signal from near by.
There might be some apps in the play store that will give you signal strength readings so you can try and narrow it down to see the general directions of where it's coming from.
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Only one access point, broadcasting 2 SSIDs. It's an Aruba. We are near other offices, but rarely see other networks. Signal is too weak to see them consistently with my phone.
Quick note, both of the SSID's are WPA2, with different keys.
It's our network that this is happening on, just can't figure out WHY it's happening. Doesn't make any sense. I've never even attempted to connect to it.
May be irrelevant but turn off always scan for networks.
I did a full wipe on my phone today, go into WIFI settings, and -Guest had "Saved" under it.
Fresh wipe! Maybe 2 hours on the install. Google Connectivity Services is not installed.

Dodgy wifi

Has anybody had any problems with their WiFi not connecting? My device seems to fail to connect to wifi after a couple of days and just sits trying to connect. Toggling WiFi doesn't seem to resolve it, and I have to reboot the entire phone to get it back online.
No problem here.
Connects very quickly, never seen it fail to connect, even on my works dodgy BT homehub 3, which used to tie my old Z3 compact up in knots..
Yep.I thought that Snapdragon 835 cause this problem. Xi oami 6., ZTE z17 and Op5 had the same question with WI-FI connection.
gesongwei said:
Yep.I thought that Snapdragon 835 cause this problem. Xi oami 6., ZTE z17 and Op5 had the same question with WI-FI connection.
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I have a sd835 s8 and I haven't had any wifi issues whatsoever since launch. It's a sample size of 1, but I don't know if it's truly due to the sd835
I haven't had any WiFi issues. In fact my WiFi connections have improved using the XZ1 compact over the X performance (the X performance dropped its WiFi connections 3 times during my data transfer to the new phone)
I've had my XZ1c for about a week now (European model) and it connects to my home network (5G) normally. Signal strength is fine, although the galaxyS6 it replaced definitely had superior reception. I do have wifi issues, but only when already connected to the network. When the phone is asleep (screenlocked) it seems to lose an active connection. The wifi connection should be on at all times, even asleep. It will show the wifi symbol, but data apps don't load, and it will have lost the connection as remote for spotify connect (playing on my reciever). It will also switch to mobile data at random times with normal wifi signal strength (even though I toggled this function off in the developper settings).
I'm not sure if this is something that can be fixed through system updates. I haven't seen any forum posts with similar problems though, so I'll try to document what is actually happening before I contact Sony support.
I bought the US version and flashed the UK firmware to get the fingerprint reader to work. No issues whatsoever with this phone. No Wi-Fi issues, overheating, signal strength, battery, nothing. Everything works just perfectly.
Same issue here. Mine is Europe (NL) version. The upload and download speed can be very unstable. And especially when I take it a bit far way, even you see that it's connect to the wifi with full signal strength, it said internet is unavailable.
I'm not sure if this related to the system update of last weekend or not.
Further to my issue. My phone will drop wifi connection and repeatedly try and connect - it usually cannot see any other networks at the time. Restarting the wifi on the phone, or rebooting the access point do not help. Running a packet sniffer on the LAN shows no activity, which indicates the issue is to do with wireless handshaking.
The problem occurs every few days and the only way to resolve it is to reboot the phone, which fixes it instantly.
I contacted Sony and they told me to do a complete reset on the phone, this didn't work. I updated my findings and pointed out that it's seems to be a firmware compatibility issue. Of course, you only get to talk to first line, and as a reset didn't work, they want me to send it off for a warranty repair (which of course will be returned with "no fault found" as no doubt their wifi will be different enough for it not to have been picked up on day 1 testing).
I'm currently trying to gather a bit more information on the fault, e.g. does it only happen on my home wifi etc. I've disabled channel bonding but that didn't help, and I've not jiggled my DHCP settings after seeing plenty of posts describing wifi problems on Oreo for other phones.
It doesn't happen frequently enough and I don't have the time to delve deeply into the network to identify the cause.
One interesting thing was that it went funny at home, but it was working when I got to work. When I got home it still couldn't connect. So I suspect it's to do with a particular compatibility issue somewhere.
no problem here conecting to 5 and 2.4 wifis...
android_fury said:
I bought the US version and flashed the UK firmware to get the fingerprint reader to work. No issues whatsoever with this phone. No Wi-Fi issues, overheating, signal strength, battery, nothing. Everything works just perfectly.
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I haven't gotten around to this yet. Do you still have wifi calling and volte available?
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So far my wifi has been fine...
Mine is worst, i couldnt get it to connect at all but all my other device including xperia xa, xzp, laptop, Ps4 PS3, everything connect without any issue whatsoever, already excahnged once and still the same.
Think mine is struggling with either a single access point or VLANs. I need to dig further, but that requires buying a new AP - this phone is getting more and more expensive!
exactly same issue as Dashers describes with my XZ1c. I am not watching it closely, but it seems that it is hapenning after around 2 days online. Never happened before on same network with my previous Z3c, which had run months without restart and any problems whatsoever (till its display died
Dashers said:
Further to my issue. My phone will drop wifi connection and repeatedly try and connect - it usually cannot see any other networks at the time. Restarting the wifi on the phone, or rebooting the access point do not help. Running a packet sniffer on the LAN shows no activity, which indicates the issue is to do with wireless handshaking.
The problem occurs every few days and the only way to resol... .
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I have more or less the same issues, and a reboot always solves it. It happens with both routers form ASUS and Draytek.
Additionally I see issues with Spotify connect dropping or not being found on my Sonos (hardwired to LAN), but not so much to Chrome Cast Audio on the same network.
I don't have a problem connecting to wifi, but I seem to have a different issue. Even though wifi scanning is toggled off in settings, my phone still seems to be scanning according to Battery Historian. I think this is one of several things contributing to my high idle drain. Does anyone else have this problem?
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I don't have a problem connecting to wifi, but I seem to have a different issue. Even though wifi scanning is toggled off in settings, my phone still seems to be scanning according to Battery Historian. I think this is one of several things contributing to my high idle drain. Does anyone else have this problem?
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Have you turned wifi scanning off ?
settings\Lock screen & security\Location\Scanning - turn wifi scanning off
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Have you turned wifi scanning off ?
settings\Lock screen & security\Location\Scanning - turn wifi scanning off
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Yes, wifi and BT scanning are both turned off in settings and have been since the beginning, but both seem to be happening anyway according to Google's Battery Historian tool. When I go back in to see if they've been toggled on by an app or something, they still appear to be off.
Dashers said:
Further to my issue. My phone will drop wifi connection and repeatedly try and connect - it usually cannot see any other networks at the time. Restarting the wifi on the phone, or rebooting the access point do not help. Running a packet sniffer on the LAN shows no activity, which indicates the issue is to do with wireless handshaking.
The problem occurs every few days and the only way to resolve it is to reboot the phone, which fixes it instantly.
I contacted Sony and they told me to do a complete reset on the phone, this didn't work. I updated my findings and pointed out that it's seems to be a firmware compatibility issue. Of course, you only get to talk to first line, and as a reset didn't work, they want me to send it off for a warranty repair (which of course will be returned with "no fault found" as no doubt their wifi will be different enough for it not to have been picked up on day 1 testing).
I'm currently trying to gather a bit more information on the fault, e.g. does it only happen on my home wifi etc. I've disabled channel bonding but that didn't help, and I've not jiggled my DHCP settings after seeing plenty of posts describing wifi problems on Oreo for other phones.
It doesn't happen frequently enough and I don't have the time to delve deeply into the network to identify the cause.
One interesting thing was that it went funny at home, but it was working when I got to work. When I got home it still couldn't connect. So I suspect it's to do with a particular compatibility issue somewhere.
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I have this exact problem. One second its 100% signal and is workin as expected. The other second it just drops and tries to reconnect like crazy. I have even had moments when i am unable to find my wifi after said disconnect. All my other devices is working like normal on my wifi. Using Asus n66u 5ghz.
I have been having the same issues as mentioned above with my XZ1 compact(european). My issues with dropping wifi signal seems to be happening when there are two different wifi signals to choose from. They are both on my local network. One is an extender due to the size of my house. When it can detect both signals, it can't make a decision on which one to choose. Once I remove a device(forget wifi device), it stays connected to the other with no problem. Since it isn't trying to compete with the other.
Has there been any improvement on this issue?

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