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Greetings, i need help restoring the TA to fix my camera first of all i have my main TA before unlock the bootloader now i really want to use my camera and i use this post to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
i alredy restore the TA i have the version
C6903_14.1.G.1.534_Commercial&Journalist_1277-1398 installed on my xperia i think this one STOCK of sony . after restore the phone its still with the same problem and the bootloader is its unlocked too..
what do i need to do to fix this? do i need to locked the bootloader first? how can i relock the bootloader and if its not the solution what could be? pls help me if possible thanks and apologie for the bad english
kiorix said:
Greetings, i need help restoring the TA to fix my camera first of all i have my main TA before unlock the bootloader now i really want to use my camera and i use this post to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
i alredy restore the TA i have the version
C6903_14.1.G.1.534_Commercial&Journalist_1277-1398 installed on my xperia i think this one STOCK of sony . after restore the phone its still with the same problem and the bootloader is its unlocked too..
what do i need to do to fix this? do i need to locked the bootloader first? how can i relock the bootloader and if its not the solution what could be? pls help me if possible thanks and apologie for the bad english
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What are you using to backup and restore the TA?
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301stSpartan said:
What are you using to backup and restore the TA?
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im using Backup-TA- V9.8
kiorix said:
im using Backup-TA- V9.8
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Restoring the TA should relock the bootloader and fix the camera. Are you getting error messages of any kind? I did the same thing but it worked here.
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I'll see what can I do there.something wrong that I must doing. thanks for worry
301stSpartan said:
Restoring the TA should relock the bootloader and fix the camera. Are you getting error messages of any kind? I did the same thing but it worked here.
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What features are lost after unlocking bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
diego9016 said:
What features are lost after unlocking bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
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If we are talking about 4.3 version, then none.
But - maybe if someone could confirm that X-Reality will stay after unlocking and using stock/stock based ROM.
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funky0308 said:
If we are talking about 4.3 version, then none.
But - maybe if someone could confirm that X-Reality will stay after unlocking and using stock/stock based ROM.
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Thanks for your response. I've already unlocked bootloader (Have a TA backup just in case), but I don't see any difference in the pictures. I have no idea if I still have X-Reality.
The BIONZ thing is lost after unlocking BL? Is there a way to check it?
diego9016 said:
Thanks for your response. I've already unlocked bootloader (Have a TA backup just in case), but I don't see any difference in the pictures. I have no idea if I still have X-Reality.
The BIONZ thing is lost after unlocking BL? Is there a way to check it?
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BIONZ thing?
I'm sure if you are on stock ROM - you still have X-Reality engine on.
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funky0308 said:
BIONZ thing?
I'm sure if you are on stock ROM - you still have X-Reality engine on.
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BIONZ image processor... I read somewhere that maybe that feature is lost after unlocking BL.
diego9016 said:
BIONZ image processor... I read somewhere that maybe that feature is lost after unlocking BL.
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I'm not sure but I know that Bravia Engine was lost when we unlocked bootloader on older Xperia devices...
So it could be...
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Yes, X-Reality doesn't work after unlocking BL.
MohammadAG said:
Yes, X-Reality doesn't work after unlocking BL.
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I never saw any difference keeping x reality on and off, so it dosnt matter to me.
Hey, if you unlock and dont see any thing strange, be happy. Dont go search for missing things
Many users saying about issues when unlock BL even on 4.3. When we will unlock BL and do not missing anything?
I think we have to wait new year when custom roms will find the way.
eclyptos said:
Many users saying about issues when unlock BL even on 4.3. When we will unlock BL and do not missing anything?
I think we have to wait new year when custom roms will find the way.
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Things like X-Reality aren't easily replicated, otherwise they won't need to wipe the related keys. However, at certain times, I found the over-sharpening of X-Reality bothersome, and I switched it off.
Anyway, I don't see any issues with keeping my bootloader unlocked. I really don't miss anything, and I doubt most people would notice something's missing till they're told about it.
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Things like X-Reality aren't easily replicated, otherwise they won't need to wipe the related keys. However, at certain times, I found the over-sharpening of X-Reality bothersome, and I switched it off.
Anyway, I don't see any issues with keeping my bootloader unlocked. I really don't miss anything, and I doubt most people would notice something's missing till they're told about it.
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Yep, I think is not a big deal X-Reality Engine so it's true when we Unlock Bootloader on 4.3 we lose BIONZ Processing and X-Reality Engine?
If yes, what consequences we can have on device?
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Yep, I think is not a big deal X-Reality Engine so it's true when we Unlock Bootloader on 4.3 we lose BIONZ Processing and X-Reality Engine?
If yes, what consequences we can have on device?
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Honestly, my best advice is to backup TA and unlock, see for yourself, if you're not bothered by anything then you haven't lost anything you'd miss.
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MohammadAG said:
Honestly, my best advice is to backup TA and unlock, see for yourself, if you're not bothered by anything then you haven't lost anything you'd miss.
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I will unlock now, but I already updated to 4.3 and I can't root my phone with locked BL to backup TA. I don't care about warranty, I brought the phone with intention to come on XDA an flash, so I was aware about losing warranty.
Even if I backup TA I will lose BIONZ and X-Reality anyway so backup TA to me don't make sense.
I am just worry do not lost something what I will need further time and I referring about the functionality of the device.
eclyptos said:
I will unlock now, but I already updated to 4.3 and I can't root my phone with locked BL to backup TA. I don't care about warranty, I brought the phone with intention to come on XDA an flash, so I was aware about losing warranty.
Even if I backup TA I will lose BIONZ and X-Reality anyway so backup TA to me don't make sense.
I am just worry do not lost something what I will need further time and I referring about the functionality of the device.
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Downgrade to 534 and backup TA, then upgrade again. Just backup TA in any way possible.
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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MohammadAG said:
Downgrade to 534 and backup TA, then upgrade again. Just backup TA in any way possible.
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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Why i need to downgrde to 534 and backup TA?, Can i upgrade to the 4.3 and backup?. difference between two methods
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Downgrade to 534 and backup TA, then upgrade again. Just backup TA in any way possible.
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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Really? Somply using the TA. Backup program to restore relock the bootloader? No need to use flashtool or adb first?
Btw in older phones BE 2 stopped working for pictures but kept working for videos on unlocked bootloaders
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shteren said:
Really? Somply using the TA. Backup program to restore relock the bootloader? No need to use flashtool or adb first?
Btw in older phones BE 2 stopped working for pictures but kept working for videos on unlocked bootloaders
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I don't know of any programs, I simply use dd to backup and restore, but I'm guessing any program that does that is simply a script that uses dd.
I never saw the advantages of X-Reality in photos, only saw it in videos, and I can't see it anymore.
Restoring the TA doesn't need flashtool, adb is just to make terminal access easier and transfer the backup, technically you could just use a terminal emulator on the Play Store and upload the backup to Google Drive without using a PC. You just need to be rooted.
MohammadAG said:
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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Restoring TA that mean restoring the phone to factory state, that mean I can't do that if I am on Custom Rom with Custom Kernel.
Factory state I will need just for warranty or I have to choose what I want, Custom Rom with Custom Kernels without X-Reality and BIONZ or Custom Rom with Stock Kernel with X-Reality and BIONZ?
What you people will do?
eclyptos said:
Even if I backup TA I will lose BIONZ and X-Reality anyway so backup TA to me don't make sense.
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What is this you go on about BIONZ?
What, your camera now takes raw photos or what?
How does your camera work if your image processor supposedly doesn't?
If you manage to flash your way to a custom kernel and rom, how hard is it to go back to stock and then shove your DRM keys back in there?
benziii said:
What is this you go on about BIONZ?
What, your camera now takes raw photos or what?
How does your camera work if your image processor supposedly doesn't?
If you manage to flash your way to a custom kernel and rom, how hard is it to go back to stock and then shove your DRM keys back in there?
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BIONZ processing and X-Reality maybe do not influence much the functionality. I am just careful do not lose some pieces which I will need in the future but the only thing what people are saying is that I need the DRM for restore to stock.
Like I said, why I should go back to stock? Just for warranty, who cares! In this DRM keys is something what I have to keep?
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it is possible to lock it without a backup, is your camera not working anymore ?
You can try flashtool, BLU option tries to relock it if it's unlocked, theres a good chance you will brick your device!
Have fun
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AntiDroid said:
it is possible to lock it without a backup, is your camera not working anymore ?
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Are you sure this is good and/or informative advice? I thought a locked bootloader not finding valid keys in the TA will refuse to ever function usefully again - no boot, no fastboot, no flashmode, nothing, totally bricked, and no way to convert it back to unlocked and get your phone back.
I would like to know if I am wrong about any of that. And... it seems that I was:
** Correction - it is Ok to relock the bootloader without having the pre-unlock data in the TA partition
** Flashing in data from any other TA partition (some other phone) seems certain to brick the phone though.
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Are you sure this is good and/or informative advice? I thought a locked bootloader not finding valid keys in the TA will refuse to ever function usefully again - no boot, no fastboot, no flashmode, nothing, totally bricked, and no way to convert it back to unlocked and get your phone back.
I would like to know if I am wrong about any of that.
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I've never read about those damages but I read things like the known camera bug.
I unlocked my Z1 on .290 - the Sony release which fixed the problem (4.3). I flashed a Recovery and rooted it with it and my device is working like it was with a "untouched" ROM.
That's all I know.
We could wait for a dev to answer deeper questions.
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I unlocked my Z1 on .290 - the Sony release which fixed the problem (4.3).
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Yes this absolutely fine and is what I did with my Z1, ie do not unlock until after the 290 update is applied - you will see that advice on the Sony unlock website. However if you want a TA backup you need to do that before unlocking as the unlock process will wipe the keys, and you also need root in order to make that copy. (let me know if I am wrong about that)
My process was to root on earlier firmware, copy the TA, update to .290, then unlock. After unlocking full root on .290 is easy with a custom kernel and everything is good: unlocked, rooted *and* working camera.
But you *will* need a copy of the pre-unlock TA partition to regain any of the functions that use the DRM keys if you decide to relock the bootloader later.
It is impossible to get the DRM keys back, and there is no gain from relocking without them, all you're doing is locking down the bootloader without enabling BIONZ, etc, but you can certainly run a stock system if you want.
n0bleINtP said:
Yes this absolutely fine and is what I did with my Z1, ie do not unlock until after the 290 update is applied - you will see that advice on the Sony unlock website. However if you want a TA backup you need to do that before unlocking as the unlock process will wipe the keys, and you also need root in order to make that copy. (let me know if I am wrong about that)
My process was to root on earlier firmware, copy the TA, update to .290, then unlock. After unlocking full root on .290 is easy with a custom kernel and everything is good: unlocked, rooted *and* working camera.
But you *will* need a copy of the pre-unlock TA partition to regain any of the functions that use the DRM keys if you decide to relock the bootloader later.
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Hello, yesterday I downgraded to rooteable 4.2.2 rom in order to backup TA partition. Once I had backup, I updated to 4.3 (290) and unlocked bootloader, then flashed recovery. With recovery was easy to flash superSu. Now I have "stock" rom with root and unlocked bootloader, but I realized that x-reality wasn't warking anymore (because of the DRM keys loss).
I tried to recover TA partition, but I caused a soft-brick, wich I only could solve flashing a 290 ftf through flashtool, but I lost root. My question is: It is possible to have root and DRM keys (TA partition restored)??
Thank you very much.
yanbee said:
Hello, yesterday I downgraded to rooteable 4.2.2 rom in order to backup TA partition. Once I had backup, I updated to 4.3 (290) and unlocked bootloader, then flashed recovery. With recovery was easy to flash superSu. Now I have "stock" rom with root and unlocked bootloader, but I realized that x-reality wasn't warking anymore (because of the DRM keys loss).
I tried to recover TA partition, but I caused a soft-brick, wich I only could solve flashing a 290 ftf through flashtool, but I lost root. My question is: It is possible to have root and DRM keys (TA partition restored)??
Thank you very much.
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No, never.
Just2Cause said:
No, never.
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So, apart from losing x-reality and some Sony apps functionalities (which I dont care). Do you lose something else? I heard about losing bionz processor, but camera still works, then I dont know how far this is true.
The incompatibility problem of root and restored TA partition, is because flashing recovery (which modifies kernel) or supersu.apk it self?
Thank you VERY much!
You loose bionz, but not x-reality. I unlocked my bootloader and I have x-relity enabled.
Some ROMs won't have working camera, for example: android 4.4 KitKat ported from xperia z ultra GPe, and some other ROMs.
Just2Cause said:
You loose bionz, but not x-reality. I unlocked my bootloader and I have x-relity enabled.
Some ROMs won't have working camera, for example: android 4.4 KitKat ported from xperia z ultra GPe, and some other ROMs.
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I can see that the x-reality option is still on menu, and you can enable/disable it, but it doesn't work. Before, I could see in the first second of picture showing how x-reality improves the image (its an effect that can be seen with the naked eye), this is not happening now. By the way, its for sure that bionz stop working? How could I take pictures without it?
Thank you
yanbee said:
I can see that the x-reality option is still on menu, and you can enable/disable it, but it doesn't work. Before, I could see in the first second of picture showing how x-reality improves the image (its an effect that can be seen with the naked eye), this is not happening now. By the way, its for sure that bionz stop working? How could I take pictures without it?
Thank you
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Not sure about bionz, but I guessed it as I had the x-relity option enabled. I can't tell if it works or not as I don't have camera (I'm using ported 4.4)
It would be nice of someone confirmed it.
Correct me if i am wrong.
Bionz is a service which improves the pictures after a shot, isn't it ?
Bionz and X-Reality are things u can't detect that easy like "oh that effect is from X-Reality" or something else.
I thought the main reason for not working cameras on other roms was that the dev's didn't apply those 4.3 changes :S
AntiDroid said:
Correct me if i am wrong.
Bionz is a service which improves the pictures after a shot, isn't it ?
Bionz and X-Reality are things u can't detect that easy like "oh that effect is from X-Reality" or something else.
I thought the main reason for not working cameras on other roms was that the dev's didn't apply those 4.3 changes :S
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Bionz it's a image processor that includes xperia Z1, it process the pictures taken instead the cpu. I dont know if it's easy to detect if it's working or not. But in the case of x-reallity it's very simple, when you open a picture in Sony gallery app, you can see how the picture "improves" quality in the first second. It is no so evident in all pictures, but can be detected by a naked eye, as I do.
My only doubt is about bionz processor, I already know that I loss x-reality. But I want to be SURE if bionz processing is also lost. I want to have full root (with unlocked bootloader), and have bionz enabled. I dont care x-reality or Sony apps.
Thank you very much
Just2Cause said:
No, never.
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Not true. If you have a TA backup, install .290, unlock bootloader, install a recovery, root, reflash stock boot partition, restore TA partition, you will end up with a booting, rooted, .290 installation.
Rekoil said:
Not true. If you have a TA backup, install .290, unlock bootloader, install a recovery, root, reflash stock boot partition, restore TA partition, you will end up with a booting, rooted, .290 installation.
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Are you sure about that? :fingers-crossed:
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Are you sure about that? :fingers-crossed:
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I did that and it worked
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Rekoil said:
Not true. If you have a TA backup, install .290, unlock bootloader, install a recovery, root, reflash stock boot partition, restore TA partition, you will end up with a booting, rooted, .290 installation.
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jjpro45 said:
I did that and it worked
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Thank you VERY much!!! Could someone tell me how to reflash boot partition only?? The TA partition which I must restore, could be restored in 290 if backups comes from 534?
Greetings to everyone
I have already unlocked BL & rooted my 4.3 xperia Z1 with CWM recovery installed... the camera and everything works fine
So, how to backup TA, MAC and IMEI with unlocked BL? I want to avoid any furthur losing possibility of them
Sorry If this a repeated question but I have searched a lot before posting this
thank you
You can't Backup your TA if you Unlocked your Bootloader. You lost your DRM keys permanently. You will not be able to re-lock you bootloader and you are not covered by your warranty. Sorry but you should read carefully before do anything.
Yeah, too late, you should have done this before the unlock....
eclyptos said:
You can't Backup your TA if you Unlocked your Bootloader. You lost your DRM keys permanently. You will not be able to re-lock you bootloader and you are not covered by your warranty. Sorry but you should read carefully before do anything.
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oh.. I hope everything will still fine .. but I saw option in flashtool to relock BL.. it won't relock my phone ?? ... and what is the safe way to update my device firmware when 4.4 kitkat arrives to xperia z1 ??? and what are the risks now ?? what I must avoid and never do ?? any advices for me ???... sure it's better to stay one 4.3 without root rather than breaking my phone
thank you
ghostman2 said:
Yeah, too late, you should have done this before the unlock....
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yeah I realize that .. I was on HTC before and I didn't know that the unlock BL is like that in SONY .. it's all my fault
Hani88 said:
oh.. I hope everything will still fine
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Should be all fine but the safest way was backup TA first because if one day happen something on your phone you can't go via warranty.
Hani88 said:
.. but I saw option in flashtool to relock BL.. it won't relock my phone ??
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You still losing your DRM keys so even if he does it's compromise, no x-reality, bionz engine and bravia.
Hani88 said:
... and what is the safe way to update my device firmware when 4.4 kitkat arrives to xperia z1 ???
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This is not a problem, the FTFs will be upload here on XDA like for .290 and Custom Roms as well.
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and what are the risks now ??
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This is what we said already, the risk is if you brick the phone and the warranty will not cover that.
Hani88 said:
what I must avoid and never do ?? any advices for me ???... sure it's better to stay one 4.3 without root rather than breaking my phone
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You don't have to avoid anything just read carefully everything when you try to do something. My advice is now to wait for the confirmed and safe way to root or update. In your position you already lost the safest way so I will root, update or flash custom roms to enjoy the phone but remember, it's your own risk and responsability.
Ive done the same, came from HTC.....so I will still have all tge features unless I flash say cm11 and try to go back to a Sony based rom?
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after unlocking the bootloader and rooting the phone
camera is not working at all:crying:
i am new to this world
so please explain how to fix it in details
thanks
zerok911 said:
after unlocking the bootloader and rooting the phone
camera is not working at all:crying:
i am new to this world
so please explain how to fix it in details
thanks
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in which firmware u unlocked the bootloader and rooted the z1?
If you Unlocked your Bootloader when you was on JB 4.2.2 then you upgraded to KK 4.4.2 then that's the mistake...
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If you Unlocked your Bootloader when you was on JB 4.2.2 then you upgraded to KK 4.4.2 then that's the mistake...
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no, i bought the phone with kitkat 4.4.2 on it
all what i wanted is to root the phone, while having the camera working at the same time
but not root and a damaged camera ..
help me out ?!
Something wrong here, i can confirm unlock bootloader on 4.4.2 can't stop camera function. (i unlocked my phone on kitkat firmware 757, all working fine)
I think you did not backup DRM keys too?
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no, i bought the phone with kitkat 4.4.2 on it !
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Something wrong here too, it not come out of box with Kitkat, so I presume you was thinking you have it but you don't.
If you brought it used then different story, but the story of the phone we don't know.
So I don't know how to help here as Unlock Bootloader on 4.4 do NOT Breaking the camera functionality.
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Something wrong here too, it not come out of box with Kitkat, so I presume you was thinking you have it but you don't.
If you brought it used then different story, but the story of the phone we don't know.
So I don't know how to help here as Unlock Bootloader on 4.4 do NOT Breaking the camera functionality.
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I bought it new from Sony with Kitkat on it in middle east -Dubai
The issue is being sorted via PM with me.
However, this is a synopsis.
The OP unlocked the bootloader on 4.4 - Camera works.
Then, instead of just flashing a custom kernel to gain root, the OP followed a guide for a locked bootloader to gain root. Once they downgraded to 4.2 the camera broke.
In order to fix this the solution is
1) Relock the bootloader (by restoring the TA partition if a TA backup was made, in this case not, or by using flashtool)
2) Use pccompanion to upgrade to latest FW
3) Re-unlock the bootloader by the official method (Or flashtool, if it was re-locked with flashtool)
4) Flash a stock based custom kernel
5) Install SuperSU from the play store.
gregbradley said:
The OP unlocked the bootloader on 4.4 - Camera works.
Then, instead of just flashing a custom kernel to gain root, the OP followed a guide for a locked bootloader to gain root. Once they downgraded to 4.2 the camera broke.
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..LOL... that explain all..hahaha...
Hi, is it possible to fix camera if I haven't TA backup?
ekks said:
Hi, is it possible to fix camera if I haven't TA backup?
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I don't think so if you unlocked on 4.2
If you unlocked on 4.3+ it wont break anyway
try relocking the boot with flashtool, upgrading by pccompanion then unlocking again with flashtool
gregbradley said:
I don't think so if you unlocked on 4.2
If you unlocked on 4.3+ it wont break anyway
try relocking the boot with flashtool, upgrading by pccompanion then unlocking again with flashtool
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i too broke the camera by doing the same mistake!!!!!........cursing.......what to do now......
my brand new z1.......lemme try this method.......
i dont think i won b able to claim th warranty also.....