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I figured, I would get the best response here... If you ROOT an Android phone, will downloading OTA updates through your phone brick it? I read an article about the new OTA for the EVO and it will brick rooted devices.
Misinformation. It would brick it if you applied it twice in sequence, not if you were rooted. You need the stock recovery to apply updates anyway, if you do get one it will not harm the phone because it can't be applied.
In the thread when the final OTA was coming out, lots of people that were rooted, said they installed it, it worked fine, but they lost root. So then they have to obtain root again.
So, I'd assume it would work fine if everything else was stock... you just might loose root.
So your saying, that if I were to install an OTA update through a rooted Android device running stock firmware, it would go through successfully without bricking it. But, if I ran the update a second time it would brick it. Correct?
If you're on a rooted stock rom, assuming you haven't flashed a custom recovery, the phone's recovery utility will not allow you to flash an OTA update because of a signature mismatch. I'm not sure what happened with the evo, but I don't believe it can happen with the nexus.
Okay, thanks? But I would still like some more input on this situation.
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PurpleLlamaLover said:
Okay, thanks? But I would still like some more input on this situation.
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If your not rooted you can still flash OTA update leaks, there are plenty out there. If you want custom roms then you have to root. The stock recovery only flashes stock updates, not rooted updates. If your not getting it by reading the forums, then I suggest you stay on stock, and wait for OTA update.
efishta said:
If you're on a rooted stock rom, assuming you haven't flashed a custom recovery, the phone's recovery utility will not allow you to flash an OTA update because of a signature mismatch. I'm not sure what happened with the evo, but I don't believe it can happen with the nexus.
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No, this only happens with this specific update with the EVO.
Alright, great! Thanks guys. So since I believe the nexus one already got the offical OTA, did any of you lose ROOT access?
You WILL loose root when you update from an OTA update.
I had a rooted FRF50 and went to the FRF83 update and lost root/custom recovery, everything else was fine though.
I ask that you all forgiveth the newb nature of my question in advance, but if my phone has been rooted, and is currently running FRF50, is there anything I can do to the phone to have it automatically update using OTA? I ask because I received the notice for the OTA update the other day, but being rooted, got a signature mismatch error. (The only reason my phone is rooted is bc I bought it used that way-I wish I could've had it bone stock instead!) I know I can somehow do a manual update, but I'm trying to figure out for further future OTA updates if there's a way that I can have my phone simply automatically apply them.
Well, first off, thanks for hijacking.... AND, I have been doing a bunch of research. You should find the official build of froyo (FRF85B correct?) and manually update it. Just use it unrooted and it'll be easier when an OTA update comes along
This is my first Android phone i have owned for a few years now and i made the mistake of doing the OTA update to 4.3. I would love to root this phone because that was a big reason why i got it. I hated waiting for a jailbreak for my iPhone and i want a phone that i have control over. is it possible to "downgrade" from the OTA update to the leaked update? or even downgrade back to 4.2.2? I have looked around but cant find anything to helpful for the galaxy s4 active. also reading around multiple people say they end up having issues after downgrading or the KNOX counter going from 0x0 to 0x1, therefore voiding warranty.
RobbieHag said:
This is my first Android phone i have owned for a few years now and i made the mistake of doing the OTA update to 4.3. I would love to root this phone because that was a big reason why i got it. I hated waiting for a jailbreak for my iPhone and i want a phone that i have control over. is it possible to "downgrade" from the OTA update to the leaked update? or even downgrade back to 4.2.2? I have looked around but cant find anything to helpful for the galaxy s4 active. also reading around multiple people say they end up having issues after downgrading or the KNOX counter going from 0x0 to 0x1, therefore voiding warranty.
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While the OTA upgraded Android to 4.3 it also included a new bootloader. The new bootloader prohibits "downgrading" to a firmware version below ML2. Currently there is no way to downgrade with the locked bootloader. However there is a new thread just started by @TransformixS4 that is looking at injecting root into the ML2 Odin files, so it may be possible in the future to root ML2. There are a couple threads in the regular S4 forums exploring ways to exploit the bootloader and flash custom kernels.
Back to your situation: you're completely stuck. Next time you see there is an update or OTA check XDA before you install it. There are a couple threads that explain the pros and cons of any updates. There is also a thread summarizing all the AT&T i537 firmwares which will be updated in the future and you may find useful.
Devo7v said:
While the OTA upgraded Android to 4.3 it also included a new bootloader. The new bootloader prohibits "downgrading" to a firmware version below ML2. Currently there is no way to downgrade with the locked bootloader. However there is a new thread just started by @TransformixS4 that is looking at injecting root into the ML2 Odin files, so it may be possible in the future to root ML2. There are a couple threads in the regular S4 forums exploring ways to exploit the bootloader and flash custom kernels.
Back to your situation: you're completely stuck. Next time you see there is an update or OTA check XDA before you install it. There are a couple threads that explain the pros and cons of any updates. There is also a thread summarizing all the AT&T i537 firmwares which will be updated in the future and you may find useful.
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My issue was I kept telling it not to upgrade, and then it went ahead and did it anyway! On 4G, not wifi even. I was so mad when I got home and started reading that all the stuff I downloaded to root it *that day* would no longer work.
Caboose27 said:
My issue was I kept telling it not to upgrade, and then it went ahead and did it anyway! On 4G, not wifi even. I was so mad when I got home and started reading that all the stuff I downloaded to root it *that day* would no longer work.
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You're only allowed to delay the update 4 or 5 times before it installed automatically. You can prevent it from upgrading in the future by freezing some system apps with Titanium Backup. I don't remember which ones right now, but if you search it's pretty easy to find.
Caboose27 said:
My issue was I kept telling it not to upgrade, and then it went ahead and did it anyway! On 4G, not wifi even. I was so mad when I got home and started reading that all the stuff I downloaded to root it *that day* would no longer work.
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Just checking, you do have the i537 not i9295, right?
Hi,
Few months ago I've upgraded my 9305 to 4.3 and rooted it without a problem (and disabled KNOX)
Bulid: JSS15JI9305XXUEML8
BASEBAND:I9305XXUEMK1
KERNEL:3.0.31-2051278 [email protected]#1
Todat, I have returned to factory default, but this time I could not perform any root: Using ODIN 3.07/3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-m3-m3zh-gti9305, as well as Kingo, did not help.
Rooting process was fine and the device has restarted, but the phone was not rooted and KNOX cannot be removed
I've tried it several times, while all rooting process were reported by odin as "success" but actually, nothing.
Please advice. I'm nearly desperate...
Thanx
bubulit2000 said:
Hi,
Few months ago I've upgraded my 9305 to 4.3 and rooted it without a problem (and disabled KNOX)
Bulid: JSS15JI9305XXUEML8
BASEBAND:I9305XXUEMK1
KERNEL:3.0.31-2051278 [email protected]#1
Todat, I have returned to factory default, but this time I could not perform any root: Using ODIN 3.07/3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-m3-m3zh-gti9305, as well as Kingo, did not help.
Rooting process was fine and the device has restarted, but the phone was not rooted and KNOX cannot be removed
I've tried it several times, while all rooting process were reported by odin as "success" but actually, nothing.
Please advice. I'm nearly desperate...
Thanx
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Hey don't know whether this might help as i am total noob but i am trying to catch up with it all. but with all the reading i have been doing to root i9305 i think this might be the best way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...covery-i9305-cwm-philz-twrp-versions-t2694249 . if i am totally off with my help i do apologise.
Good luck
Have you tried flashing a recovery and installing SuperSU
bubulit2000 said:
Hi,
Few months ago I've upgraded my 9305 to 4.3 and rooted it without a problem (and disabled KNOX)
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Thanx
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Hi, long time lurker, been on hiatus for a bit since knox came in, but looking at trying to root my current phone.
Can I ask where and how you manage to disable KNOX? I've got 4.3 with KNOX after sending in my phone for warranty repair, and didn't wish to accidently screw things up messing with KNOX.
If you can point me to the right direction so I can disable KNOX it would be awesome. as my current stock rom is crap.
Cheers,
grungypoo said:
Hi, long time lurker, been on hiatus for a bit since knox came in, but looking at trying to root my current phone.
Can I ask where and how you manage to disable KNOX? I've got 4.3 with KNOX after sending in my phone for warranty repair, and didn't wish to accidently screw things up messing with KNOX.
If you can point me to the right direction so I can disable KNOX it would be awesome. as my current stock rom is crap.
Cheers,
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He means disabling the Knox security features I believe. Supersu does this automatically after installing and activating it.
To the best of my knowledge I still dont think anyone has found a way to disable the Knox flag in the Booltloader. So if you already have stock Samsung 4.3 on the phone, then you will get a Knox warranty void flag if you mod it.
^ Thanks for the clarification. I totally thought I missed something... lol.
Ok so many of us have successfully rooted our devices and frozen update and renamed security files to avoid losing our root.
What are the proper steps for Dummies like me to accept the Lollipop OTA in December without losing my data?
Also now 4.4.4 is anounced with Bluetooth fixes that I have noticed while streaming
(My gut tells me keep update frozen until a flashable rooted 5.0.)
It was said in another thread NOT to take the 5.0 update until a root method for it has been established. If you wanna keep root, I'd wait. I'm still running stock rooted AND3 firmware/kernel. I'm looking to get the newest update up to today (I think ANG3 or something of that nature.) I'm just not taking updates yet so I can keep my root. I'm having problems with the phone freezing and restarting though so I'd like an update.
Sent from my "ROOTED" SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
NG3 is smooth
PS4AndroidHacker said:
It was said in another thread NOT to take the 5.0 update until a root method for it has been established. If you wanna keep root, I'd wait. I'm still running stock rooted AND3 firmware/kernel. I'm looking to get the newest update up to today (I think ANG3 or something of that nature.) I'm just not taking updates yet so I can keep my root. I'm having problems with the phone freezing and restarting though so I'd like an update.
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I am stock rooted with ANG3 pre-installed on my purchased S5. It runs smooth as silk if you use the method posted by muniz_ri in general. All I've done is turned off or frozen some bloatware and installed Chainfire SU 2.16.
My question was more geared towards the person who might want to go from rooted to the lastest OTA without losing data etc. I have been diving in pretty deep to the AT&T side of XDA since leaving sprint a week ago and I think the answer might have been posted by shortydoggg with the soft-bricked thread.
I was hoping someone might be able to tell me a non odin 3.09+ way to remove the freeze on my apps in the correct order to take the OTA without tripping KNOX if I wanted to do that knowing I might loose root.
I thought we might be able to follow muniz_ri and odin the one file back towelroot again after.
Basically I like stock always have, but I want root also for AdAway Titanium Backup Etc. and being a truck driver I wanted the 4.4.4 Bluetooth fix for Iheart radio.
UltraCon79 said:
I am stock rooted with ANG3 pre-installed on my purchased S5. It runs smooth as silk if you use the method posted by muniz_ri in general. All I've done is turned off or frozen some bloatware and installed Chainfire SU 2.16.
My question was more geared towards the person who might want to go from rooted to the lastest OTA without losing data etc. I have been diving in pretty deep to the AT&T side of XDA since leaving sprint a week ago and I think the answer might have been posted by shortydoggg with the soft-bricked thread.
I was hoping someone might be able to tell me a non odin 3.09+ way to remove the freeze on my apps in the correct order to take the OTA without tripping KNOX if I wanted to do that knowing I might loose root.
I thought we might be able to follow muniz_ri and odin the one file back towelroot again after.
Basically I like stock always have, but I want root also for AdAway Titanium Backup Etc. and being a truck driver I wanted the 4.4.4 Bluetooth fix for Iheart radio.
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It's hard to say what the best approach will be until the update arrives. In the case of 4.4.4, I'm rather confident that a somewhat simple method can be developed to take the update while keeping root. As for 5.0, I have some ideas none ideal but we'll see.
Is Android 4.4.4 for the AT&T version of the Galaxy S5 out? I have a Galaxy S5 AT&T phone but I don't have AT&T service. I am running Android 4.4.2 with build version ND3 is there something newer than this?
Updating to NG3
Het guys, so today I got ahold of Odin 3.09 and the NG3 update, I applied it through Odin in the AP slot and it DID NOT update my phone to NG3. My Baseband still says AND3 and kernel is 3.4.0-2178781
Tue Jul 22 13:58:46 KST 2014. Anybody have any options i can use without having to downgrade to NCE just to upgrade? LOL...Im kinda at a loss,Ive tried it in download mode twice now and no fu go.
Plz disregard my message. I'm good now and running rooted NG3.
I’m guessing this has already been asked but I didn’t find a good answer for it, so I will ask here. I recently got my Verizon S6 Edge (SM-G925V) and was able to root it using Ping Pong and had no problems at all (with Super SU installed) – kudos to Keen Team. I’m on G925VVRU1AOC3 now (stock) but maybe a week ago, I started receiving a notice to install an OTA update. Should I install the OTA and if so, should I unroot my phone prior to installing the update? Sorry if I seem cautious but I've not seen this discussed about the S6 Edge and I definitely don't want to trip KNOW or brick my phone.
Thanks in advance,
UCG
UnderCoverGuy said:
I’m guessing this has already been asked but I didn’t find a good answer for it, so I will ask here. I recently got my Verizon S6 Edge (SM-G925V) and was able to root it using Ping Pong and had no problems at all (with Super SU installed) – kudos to Keen Team. I’m on G925VVRU1AOC3 now (stock) but maybe a week ago, I started receiving a notice to install an OTA update. Should I install the OTA and if so, should I unroot my phone prior to installing the update? Sorry if I seem cautious but I've not seen this discussed about the S6 Edge and I definitely don't want to trip KNOW or brick my phone.
Thanks in advance,
UCG
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If you read the q&a section on the ping pong root sub forum you will learn that thee ota cannot be installed after you have achieved root. Perhaps the best thing to do is unroot using odin then install the ota
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Download smart switch onto your PC and update thru that way. It will update and you will loose root but all your data is not touched. Then you use pingpong to reroot.
dansto82 said:
Download smart switch onto your PC and update thru that way. It will update and you will loose root but all your data is not touched. Then you use pingpong to reroot.
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Thanks @dansto82 and @Snowby123, I actually did those things. I did the ODIN thing, it didn't work (the reason I posted this thread was because I saw what to do for AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, but no Verizon steps). So when ODIN and factory resets didn't work, I ran the Verizon utility that comes with the phone and I did the "repair" (which downloads and installs a fresh copy of the stock ROM) and then I updated from OC3 to OE2 and that toasted my phone (and I can't downgrade either). The device actually works until it finishes booting up, then the touch screen has issues and performance is slower than my big wheel in a blizzard, but at least root is gone because I have to send it back now. The setup process runs without issue until it completes (so it isn't the physical screen). Either way, my S6 Edge 128GB OC3 phone ended up not liking the OE2 update. and I just got off the phone with Verizon and they are sending me another one. Let's hope that works.
Got my replacement phone (came with OC3). Updated to OE2 and rooted, works great. I guess caution when unrooting the Verizon S6 Edge to do an OTA.
It appears that once you install the OF1 update you can't flash back to OE2
Sent from my SM-G925V